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IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the /draw/thread with our fundamental exercises.

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, or you literally are never going to make it


previous >>4025301
RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS:
1)
>screenshot the image and post that instead
2)
>change camera capture settings to something smaller
3)
>send to computer and resize in MSPaint

READ THE STICKY if you need guidance when you haven't even started.

Sticky: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

TRY TO GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK - many studies are left unreplied, which is a bit sad and can be quite demotivating for the people that try their best to improve, but are left directionless.

>> No.4028346
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Feedback would be nice

>> No.4028359

How much does dysgraphia affect art abilities?
I still can't make proper lines and control my pencil pressure after 4 years.

>> No.4028366
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4028366

Been looking into gesture and mannequinising after people started to tell me to stop grinding heads for a while.

How bad are these? How's the flow and proportions?

refs are in this vid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SngdNVI3w48&list=PL7EWYwaF6E-FZ8JiBlz2tF1DQUCw-GCmn&index=3&t=231s

If it matters I start by putting down a line to get the flow of the body and a leg, add Proko's 'bean' and then go from there. Proko has also been my main guide in this as well as reading some hampton.

>> No.4028383

>>4028346
Looks pretty good. Try pushing yourself with a finished piece now.

>> No.4028391

>>4028346
no /beg/ I would say

>> No.4028404
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tried some more rib/spine/pelvis, this time as boxes since i cant really grasp the concept yet. will appreciate some criticism because I have zero knowledge on this

>> No.4028411

>>4028346
Not from reference > pretty good
From Reference > post reference, lips don't work that way and nose is lazily done

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>> No.4028414

>>4028391
Kek, you sound like you're gonna be stuck here for a good while.

>> No.4028417
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How'd I do? Always looking to improve

>> No.4028423

>tfw wasted 5 years symbol drawing and learned nothing

>> No.4028427

>>4028423
>cymbal drawing
Faggot should have been hitting the triangle instead

>> No.4028432

>>4028359
I have the same condition as you, though I think I just never learned to write properly and I can learn how to draw and do studies just fine

>> No.4028438

I am doing loomis (FWIAP). Should I draw these caricatures or my own chars?

>>4028423
/beg/ here, what's a symbol drawing?

>> No.4028445

>>4028432
Forgot to say, I was diagnosed as a child with it and has to use a pc from middle school all the end of highschool
>>4028438
Fun with a pencil is a good book, but certainly not the book I would recommend for week 1 beginners. Read drawing on the right side of the brain or do some draw a box for a few days. I'd recommend hampton gesture book after that
Symbol drawing is when you draw what your brains tells you what you see instead of what you really see, the lips on this pic >>4028346 are sort of an example.

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>>4028335
I decided to hold off on the furfaggotry and actually post some construction...with tits of course ;)

>> No.4028452
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Need to try different angles.

>> No.4028456

>>4028432
Guess I have no excuse then and it's just my usual impatience and carelessness.

>> No.4028459

>>4028452
Anon do you even draw from life?
You're gonna need to draw items, objects and backgrounds to accompany your OC.

>> No.4028462

>>4028456
I still fucking suck at inking though, but I think that's something that can be fixed, let us both work hard anon

>> No.4028464

>>4028346
As other people have said, outlining lips is the worst thing you can do. They need to be handled delicately. In a picture like this, I would try to exclude as much of them as possible and let the mind fill them in.

>> No.4028488

>>4028459
I do. Admittedly not as much as I should though.

>> No.4028492
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did some hands last night using my own hand as reference. what do I need to work on?

>> No.4028494
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Will this help?

>> No.4028508

>>4028494
that book is great for beginners, especially the lessons on gesture.

>> No.4028514
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tried some more stuff

>> No.4028518

>>4028514
nice gestures. I especially like the top right

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Reposting this cus why not, doing a character of mine with construction.

>> No.4028523

>>4028514
Is the torso in the middle supposed to have intestines there or is that just the reference cube?

Either way I like it lol

>> No.4028545

>>4028514
good stuff anon! Keep doing this!

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i don't get how people can draw backgrounds for hours on end, i feel like dying and i haven't even cleaned the lines yet

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>> No.4028697
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>>4028449
>I decided to hold off on the furfaggotry.
Dont listen to the trolls, draw what you like.
Furfaggorty is what made me love digital painting, and you can not improve unless you love your work.

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Critique

>> No.4028711
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>> No.4028719

>>4028449
Really.....nothing.....???

>> No.4028728

>>4028697
Thanks man, but I think its for the best for the time being I was over my head and suffering from the artist equivilant of tunnel vision, besides I love drawing titties their fun, BTW if that's your art holy shit its fucking godly and so fluffy :3

>> No.4028738

>>4028366
Do another gesture session and don't rest your wrist or elbow on the table this time

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comments, questions, and concerns please bros

>> No.4028752

>>4028417
Nice work on throwing in random objects and actually finishing it, unironically. Definitely GMI.

That said the anatomy is very /beg/ and the shading seems purely speculated on in places, presumably because you weren't sure about the anatomy behind it.
Left girl looks like a tube human, give her some landmarks and edges buddy, humans have planes.
I'm not even sure what's going on with the right girl, and It seems neither are you. Just crank out her shoulder man, make her stretch, and put more thought into how her torso is connected to her hips, shouldn't be hard to find a ref.
You avoided just about any kind of difficulty in choosing your hands and clothing.
Decide on a proper light source and just go wild with it man, don't place random shadows in an attempt to make things look round - that's not even the sense of 3D you usually want.
Still, nice work.

>> No.4028769

>>4028719
Yes, nothing. It's obviously shit and there's nothing to point out when you've already got your hands full with things to work on. You're doing the right exercises and going the right way, now take the next couple steps until you stop knowing how you're supposed to improve. What do you want us to tell you? "Uhhh sorry anon, but shoulders and elbows aren't actually circles, they have bones and meat and bumps and corners, and tits have fat pads at the top and aren't as voluminous as you drew them though I'm sure you're totally aware of the "tits are affected by gravity meme" well sadly you're not aware enough, and by the way hands have fingers" - is that what you want to hear? Because without having someone tell you these you'd have called it a day and thought you're done improving? Critique isn't there to make you better, it's for making you figure out what you need to improve on.

>> No.4028779

>>4028769
O....k..... Thanks? Anon? Question mark???

>> No.4028811
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Attemp at shadowing.

>> No.4028818
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Did this drawing of Cham Cham and probably my first finished drawing in forever. I know a million things are wrong with it but if I can get some feedback on what i need to work on the most at this time that would be great.

>> No.4028821

>>4028779
What's unclear?

>> No.4028825
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>> No.4028835

>>4028821
Not that anon but im assuming its the unwarranted aggression

>> No.4028840

>>4028821
Nothing its just cute to see you giving advice I never knew you were a tsundere anon....my my.

>> No.4028842

>>4028818
It almost looks good
>work on your line weights
>gestures
>undersketch before inking

>> No.4028848
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>> No.4028852

>>4028825
Those aren't cubes
1 point perspective makes no sense

>> No.4028859
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Light Study, I feel like it is still incredibly flat and I can't figure out how to make it truly pop.
I'm also having issues blending.
I'm using CSP, any advice?

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>>4028848
Here is correct.
>>4028852
at least try to show him what you mean, bro

Basically, as the object moves away from your front, it instantly becomes 2 point perspective
a good thing to remember is that the closer it is to one vanishing point, the further away it is from the other

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fellows, I did it, I grabbed the cutest jap I know and I turned her into an american globina
I wanted to shade this but I don't know how in digital

>> No.4028919

>>4028884
how do you get your lines so clean? just ctrl z?

>> No.4028925

>>4028918
you gotta feeeeeeel the form and learn how to see

>> No.4028931

>>4028859
Buy Proko’s skull for 85 dollars and learn how the anatomy works, also study surface detail anatomy.

>> No.4028933

>>4028335
I know we're not supposed to chicken scratch but should I be worried if my chicken scratches look better than the whole line or am I not thinking enough as they say

>> No.4028938
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I don't even know how the fuck I drew this face a week ago

>> No.4028941
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>>4028931
>Buy Proko's skull for 85 dollars
Back to your shithole you fucking NPC

>> No.4028943

>>4028842
1. I can look through my ink drawing books on how to utilize lineweights but any good resources is appreciated. I figured I should get some overall drawing skills before tackling that subject though.

2. Still doing those along with other studies; mainly following the Vilppu method.

3. Used a HB pencil to sketch and erased it all when done.

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did some sketching without refs except for the hands >>4028492 what should I work on?

>>4028346
I really like this, imo the lips actually don’t look bad

>> No.4028967

Okay, how come there's no loomis book (for example Fun with a Pencil) in the /beg/ sticky recommended materials? I thought he was like the best dude for anatomy. The only book I found was Creative Illustration in the Composition and Design tab.

>> No.4028982

>>4028967
https://archive.org/search.php?query=creator%3A%22Loomis%2C+Andrew%22

>> No.4028984

>>4028967
I mean, it’s in the general board sticky. who frequents this board and doesn’t know about loomis at this point?

>> No.4029014
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Critique my public drawing sketches please, how can I improve?

Also, how do you get better at form?
I have ZERO sense of form when drawing, and could reeeeeally use the recommendations.

>> No.4029039

>>4028703
>saitama face
>straight hair
>too focused on feed
>rectangular corners

>> No.4029059
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>> No.4029073

>>4028904
Link to the exercise.

https://drawabox.com/lesson/1/roughperspective

>> No.4029075

>>4029059
>>4028884
were these done with a ruler? the site specifically mentions not to

>> No.4029079

>>4029014
Don't press down so hard when doing guidelines. Be light and use it as a base to work off of.

>> No.4029084

>>4029079
A friendly anon taught me how to lightly press down instead of pressing down hard like in the picture, so that's a habit I'm currently trying to get rid of!

>> No.4029106

>>4028918
Do you have a bigger resolution of the reference picture?

>> No.4029109

>>4029084
it’s always better to be light and gentle when sketching.

>> No.4029114

>>4028918
>but I don't know how in digital
The same as in traditional plus over 9000 other techniques if you want. But you shouldn't be concerned with that for now. Learn to copy proportions and see the forms first. Oh yeah, and read the fucking sticky, you're drawing symbols.

>> No.4029120

>>4029084
The pencil is putting pigment on the paper even when you don't press. Just lightly skate it over where you're thinking. It makes it easier to see proper form because you can see through the lines unlike when you press down.

>> No.4029156
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how am i doing anons

>> No.4029169

>>4029114
I do proper construction and measuring, its just in another layer that I didn't show

>> No.4029171
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>>4028859
Profiles are considered to be hard to make look 3d in general, and your ref isn't very good. You painted most of her head the same grey value, even though there's a lot of subtle variation in value in the ref. Try to see it and represent it. But as you can see, even the ref itself looks a bit flat. You can emphasize the form if you like. But you're supposed to know the planes of the head for that.

>I'm also having issues blending.
Then start with blending exercizes, draw a ball. It doesn't matter what software you use. Try to work with a larger brush. Make it as big as you can while feeling comfortable, and then even bigger. Set opasity to pressure, and size too, but only with a slight variation, going to maybe 60% maximum size. Don't draw lines. If you see a thin line, like in the eylid, draw a thicker shadow shape, then draw a shape of light skin on top of it, leaving only a thin line.

>> No.4029174

>>4029156
values are muddy and proportions are off. that’s a pretty good ear though

>> No.4029177

>>4028963
>what should I work on?
The placement of the ear. Also, the thumb in the bottom hand is too small and looks off.

>> No.4029180

how do i keep proportion in mind when constructing a figure? i keep making the ribcage too long or the legs too short even though I try to keep the ratios in mind.

>> No.4029201

>>4029177
thank you, the ear and thumb are sticking out to me like a sore thumb now hehe

>> No.4029211

>>4028835
No one's entitled to having random people on the internet take time out of their day to help them improve, fuck off with "Wow so no one's going to help me?", it just shows that you're either a fucktard or a woman. We see this further evidenced by their reply.
If I'm already going to deal with that kind of retard I may as well make sure to vent the entirety of my unfathomable anger from their single post in the reply I make to them.

>> No.4029217

>>4029180
Continue drawing them while trying to keep their ratios in mind and it'll come on its own. Just keep trying to get it right on the first try. You won''t be stuck with centipede torsos forever if you just double check whether what you drew seems right before moving on.

>> No.4029220

>>4029217
Well and anatomy knowledge will help as well.

>> No.4029240

>>4029180
a trick I realized one day is that the elbow marks the bottom of the rib, so basically if the rib cage is half the length of the torso and ends where the forearm begins then your proportions should look more correct.

>> No.4029241
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I WANT TO MAKE IT

>> No.4029242

>>4029241
ooh nice I really like this. do you have a Twitter?

>> No.4029245

>>4029156
It needs a lot more darker tones and areas. Try to reframe from just shading in black. Use darker browns.

>> No.4029252

>>4029241
dope thumbnail

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>>4028289
Using a reference to make a joke or to exercise/practice is alright but please leave it at that and don't make it habit or use it as a crutch else you'll turn into Greg Land

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6 Portraits (3 female, 3 male)
Sketch stage.

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>> No.4029290
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some froggos

>> No.4029294

>>4029266
>>4029290
very nice

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>>4028335
some head practice

>> No.4029302

>>4029298
Fuck off this thread

>> No.4029303

>>4029298

not /beg/

>> No.4029307

>>4029302
>>4029303
my bad i thought i was still /beg/

>> No.4029310
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WIP
I'm aware of anatomy problems, but still have some trouble fixing them. I'm also struggling with the right boob because it kinda looks as if it was fading or something

>> No.4029311

>>4029298
>>4029307
>It's an intermediate who pretends to be /beg/ so he can jerk himself off episode
Fuck off.

>> No.4029313

>>4029307
you know damn well you’re not. now give me your social media

>> No.4029314

>>4029311
i've seen better ppl post here

>> No.4029315

>>4029307
Take a moment to enjoy your graduation and to lube up your ass for a fatter dick

>> No.4029317

>>4029275
Looks kind of flat because of the lack of values. But the drawing itself looks decent enough. Just keep drawing, anon!

>> No.4029320

>>4029311
Some people like to race in the special olympics

>> No.4029321

>>4029298
I'm real curious how you ended up with this level of familiarity with faces without getting the hang of facial proportions. Almost all of them have too small craniums. Not comically small, but it stands out given the quality of the faces.
I actually believe you when you say you weren't sure if you're still /beg/ - did you just study cartoon faces for a long time without practicing other things?

>> No.4029322

>>4029290
Love the second one

>> No.4029324

>>4029307
If you want some actual critique I'd say their heads are, generally, too short. Some of them don't look as if they could house a human brain. Other than that yeah you're pretty gud m8. Now fuck off /beg/ to greener pastures.

>> No.4029325

>>4029321
he probably got bullied by nosebro sayin aayyyy lmao at all his heads and then made the craniums too small to overcompensate

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Crit pls

>> No.4029358

>>4029310
I'd make the boob sag a little lower/make it a little rounder as well as make the shadow for it a little darker/harder (not to the point where it's an outline ofc), but not bad so far.

Also I know it's an anatomy error but I like like how her right arm grows into a big ass claw somehow

>> No.4029364

>>4029321
its stylization dumbfuck

>> No.4029369

>>4029364
Why are you pointing out the obvious and painting is a counter argument?

>> No.4029371

>>4029356
looks like sam Hyde in a costume

>> No.4029373

>>4029254
I tried to just get the pose the same and it was a meme drawing until I got really into the clothing detail. But yeah, with my more serious drawings I tend to use minimum reference and when I post them on social media I always credit the original drawing I stole for the jokey ones.

>> No.4029379

>>4028728
Thanks dude. Art is a hobby for me, but yeah.
The only way to get better is to draw what you like. So draw tits until you cant feel your arm.

>> No.4029383

>>4029321

He's copying J. Scott Campbell

>> No.4029387
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I like to draw characters from shows I like.
Not just furshit. Most of what I draw is apocalyptic scenes and shit, but im trying to get gud at shading and linework.

>> No.4029390

>>4029387
Little too symmetrical desu

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would like to ask which parts are hugely inaccurate before i internalize this

>> No.4029400

>>4029395
lel

>> No.4029408

>>4029400
i take that to mean my anatomy is flawless

>> No.4029417

>>4029408
I don't think you are /beg/ but the butt should be a bit visible on the bottom left drawing

>> No.4029433

>>4029395
get yourself a picture of a standing female and hold it up next to your girl
other than that nothing that stands out, keep going

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Stuff

>> No.4029457

https://www.edx.org/course/applied-anatomy-of-the-locomotor-system-2
or
https://www.edx.org/course/anatomy-musculoskeletal-and-integumentary-systems-2

>> No.4029458

I WANT TO LEARN HOW TO DRAW FACES NOT SOME SHITTY BOXES AND PERSPECTIVE SHIT. IT'S NOT MY FAULT MY HAND SHAKES.
...I can't do it bros..if I draw one more box or listen to vandruff mumble in the classroom for one more minute I'm going to kill myself.

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>>4028452
The next one is a real life study, I swear.

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I believe I have insulted this person's face. What about it is glaringly incorrect?

>> No.4029505

>>4029503
looks like symbol drawing to me

>> No.4029507

>>4029470
With your mind's eye, trace the outline from the tip of his chin to his adam's apple
Then do the same with a real person

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4029540

>>4029503

>> No.4029632
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i tried to draw a sausage, do you want to eat it?

>> No.4029635

>>4029503
Outlines don't exist in real life

>> No.4029636
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most of my stuff from early February up to now, missing a lot of Keys to Drawing stuff and lots of shit doodles

gave up on drawing for about a month after Draw A Box bored me to tears, probably wasn't such a good idea to not draw creatively at all whilst on DAB
not sure what I'm doing anymore, no clear path on what to do, no motivation, just procrastination and avoiding anything that takes actual effort

>> No.4029639
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4029639

Tried drawing a female figure from imagination. I seem to be able to draw the figures better in a pose, but when its a simple front view i have a tough time. Idk. I need help.

>> No.4029641

>>4029639
Why is it so fucking dark?

>> No.4029662

>>4029641
Electricity bill is past due, only use my phone and neighbors optimum wifi. I use my phones flashlight and have battery banks. Now feed back please.

>> No.4029673
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i was going to do a loomis head as a warmup before i start practicing some asaro heads but i added some random anatomy

>> No.4029682
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I cant draw hands for shit. Any good books for that except Loomis?

>> No.4029683

>>4029662
You should figure out how to pay your electric bill before you ask for feedback on your /beg/ drawings on an Armenian carpentry forum.

>> No.4029686

>>4029682
Don't know about books. But proko and Sinix helped me.

>> No.4029691

>>4029686
Thanks for the suggestion, anon.

>> No.4029726

>>4029632
only if attached to tits

>> No.4029728

>>4029673
Its all horrible go use a reference and stop chicken scratching

>> No.4029730
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>> No.4029751

My line quality and line weight is worse than 100% of this thread after 4 years.
How much should shoulder drawing help?

>> No.4029772

>>4029751
Even worse than>>4029682 ?

>> No.4029779

>>4029772
I couldn't draw lines that clear if my life depended on it.

>> No.4029782

>>4029779
Even this guy ? >>4029673

>> No.4029788

>>4029636
A lot of drawing is about mileage. You need to practice for multiple hours every single day.

>> No.4029804

>>4029782
Digital: comperable
Traditional: better
Okay I was exaggerating but my point and question about shoulder drawing still stands.

>> No.4029821

>>4028752
This is the kind of critique I needed! Much obliged

>> No.4029833

>>4028703
I was thinking a footfag would understand how feet work, but I guess I expected too much

>> No.4029840

>>4029632
Head is too pointed but aside from that, it looks fine.

>> No.4029880
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4029880

Is this pose too bad or can I use it for my drawing? It's the best on I could do, mounting bikes is confusing

>> No.4029884

>>4029880
that’s a tough one, I think you’ll want to look at more references for the pose, particularly the arms.

>> No.4029893

>>4029840
Not the guy who drew that but spear dick is real, I have seen some people with them irl
I'm not gay btw

>> No.4029904
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4029904

Not to blog but I started doing more bargues today, mine were awful but I feel the necessary patience that it takes to learn art slowly overtake me, I'm becoming a bit more meticulous in my strokes and observations (not that these doodles will show that) -- also noticing angles a bit better, but god is it tough. Thoughts?

>> No.4029906

>>4029904
Thoughts on what

>> No.4029925

>>4029906
On my shit drawings

>> No.4029926

>>4029925
you've shown us like 1 minute of work anon
apply yourself

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>>4028412
Nice Swanna
>>4028452
Looking good anatomically
>>4028492
Nice
>>4028514
The first one has an odd spine but the rest is ok
>>4028668
Amen, the details you have to add never end
>>4028703
>footfag
You need to work on anatomy, perspective, character design and shit
>>4028750
Looking good, more detail on the Thighs would be better
>t. Thighfag
>>4028818
Holy shit that middle section of the arm
>>4028938
Mood, sometimes Sketching when bored I come up with good shit that my Dumb ass can't translate to my sketchbook

I'm working on this, I'm a cartoonfag and haven't studied anything, the legs are based on Mistycalpp work he's my inspiration or some shit.
This is my first time using ink se be nice please :c

>> No.4029964
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How do I draw pretty noses?

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>> No.4029996

>>4029964
Don't make them more detailed than the rest of the face for starters.

>> No.4030013

>>4029926
All right anon, I'll show you, just wait and see TOMORROW

>> No.4030014

>>4030011
sorry I dont want to spam pics. please help me with this.

>> No.4030016

>>4029211
>No one's entitled to having random people on the internet take time out of their day to help them improve.

>proceeds to do exactly that then gets mad at others who do it without the sass

Wow sounds like you have mental issues anon, I'd get diagnosed.

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What edition of DRSB should I read?

I bought the supplies for the newest version, but thought I'd ask you guys anyways.

>> No.4030159

>try to follow a guide and do excercises
>get unreasonably frustrated at myself for not being able to do it properly

>> No.4030173

>>4030159
The main thing is attempting it anon refining it takes ages, many people suffer from impatience it makes a good motivator.

>> No.4030185

>>4030159
Don't worry you'll want to kill yourself progressively less as the months go by as long as you keep at it consistently!

>> No.4030187

>>4030173
>>4030185
Thanks. I'll keep at it, it's just frustrating when I feel like I missed the entire point of the excercise even after doing it.

>> No.4030216

>>4030102
don't read it, the whole book is pseudo-scientific mumbo-jumbo, only do exercises from it

>> No.4030223

>>4030013
I agree with the other anon, your post has me interested in what you’re capable of with more effort

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>> No.4030258

I've read the beginner's guide and I followed through Loomis and Hampton but now I feel like I am stagnating and the guide doesn't provide anything other than practice.
I am a person who is good at keeping to some schedule when I have some plan I can follow and that allows me to track my progress.
Can you please recommend me some actual courses where I would exactly know what to do during week 1, week 2 and so on? To know how many hands, heads, whatever I should draw before moving onto the next part of the course?
I feel like I really need it.

>> No.4030268

I feel like I'm too much of a brainlet to follow tutorials on pinterest.
>open good looking tut
>first 2-4 steps are nice, doing them is fun and interesting
>then they suddenly make a big jump from sketch to almost finished
>don't understand what exactly they did and what their thought processes are

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>>4030014
attachment to body is wrong, tits go over pectorals and pectorals go over arm
tits themselves are kinda whatever, but you probably want to use more fluid lines

>> No.4030271

>>4030268
Anon, no one can teach you every intricate detail of the process from start to finish. You're actually going to have to try to take your work as far as you can so you can learn the mechanisms by which you can successfully do so. A lot of art is about failing an assload before you start to understand why certain things make sense. This goes for any discipline. Art books and videos are only capable of teaching you so much. At some point you have to take some shots in the dark and see where they take you. Do not be afraid to fail. That's my biggest advice to you.

>> No.4030273

>>4030216
got any source with that?

>> No.4030276

>>4030273
Not that anon but the gist of the book is that rotating the image divorces what something actually is from what your brain believes it to be. All left brain/right brain conjecture is unfounded nonsense. This book is meant to train your eye to see angles and proportions- not necessarily to draw well from life/reference (even though that is the net result)

>> No.4030281

>>4030276
ah, okay, that sounds reasonable.
it does sounds like Betty found the excercises in the book on accident, but i think i'll read the entire book still, might find a few tidbits that could be useful somehow and somewhere down the line

>> No.4030296

>>4028335
Any tips for "filling in" the human figure? I'm doing okay with construction but then as I go to draw the "meat" of the person it always ends up looking either like straight lines or too wobbly.
It's mostly limbs that are the problem though I haven't figured out how the ass works yet either.

>> No.4030298

>>4030296
You describe the 3D with shading and anatomy.

>> No.4030307

How do you change your mindset from drawing everything but with contour lines into sensing the form and drawing accordingly?

>> No.4030339

>>4030307
Do studies and draw simple shapes like cubes

>> No.4030354

>>4030296
Yeah some basic anatomy will help but also having a simple yet characteristic structure to your construction will help.
>>4030307
Like the other anon said draw cubes and cylinders and draw through all of your boxes and cylinders to show how they angle and curve.

>> No.4030364

How to stop suicidal feelings from being so bad at art?

>> No.4030370

>>4030364
thats easy. Stfu and keep drawing, become good and feel good about yourself.

>> No.4030374

>>4030354
>>4030339
Isn't focus on that specifically what Drawabox is about? Could I benefit from the excercises?

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>>4030370
>Stfu and keep drawing, become good and feel good about yourself.
I'm sick and tired of practicing and being depressed all the time, I wanted to make cool stuff not just fucking feel like shit and look at shit constantly.

>> No.4030379

>>4030364
this goes out to all you fags who get depressed from being bad:

you have an ego. not admitting you have an ego is part of your ego. you need to drop it entirely. instead of taking up the mindset that you "need to be a really good artist," start thinking "i am a student, enjoying my learning and fixing mistakes as i go." you are not bad, because bad is relative. you simply have more to learn, and you need to accept that this will always be the case. you will never stop learning how to draw, it has no end. if you dont enjoy the journey, you wont enjoy art, because the journey lasts until you die or stop drawing.

>> No.4030381

>>4030379
>enjoying my learning and fixing mistakes as i go.
I don't enjoy it, it's agony.

>> No.4030382

>>4030381
then give up. it never ends. you dont like art, you like looking at art. if you cant learn to swallow your pride and work like the rest of us, its not for you, sorry.

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>>4030382
Fine, I'm outta here. So long losers.

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4030389

How to make better looking or more appealing lines?

>> No.4030392
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4030392

just drew this from reference, would like some critique

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>>4030383
>give up because it's hard
>"Fine, I'm outta here. So long losers."

>> No.4030394

>>4030378
And so was everybody else untill they put in the work, it gets better over time but you know going in that your going to spend an amount of hours on this that will be in the 4 if not 5 digits.

>> No.4030395
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4030395

how is this type of style called, any tuts or explanations on how to create something similar?
the guy's descriptions says
>Image was done with standard techniques - 3d + 2d + photos. I hope you like it!
so i assume that he painted over a rough 3d render, but where can i find some more simplified, /beg/ explanations on the process, what do i search for?

>> No.4030399

>>4030379
>instead of taking up the mindset that you "need to be a really good artist," start thinking "i am a student, enjoying my learning and fixing mistakes as i go."
It's so easy to go back to the negative mentality though. It always goes from "I'm just learning" to "why doesn't THIS LOOK FUCKING RIIIIIGHT" in minutes.

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>> No.4030408

>>4030399
this is true. if it was easy to avoid the negative mindset, no one would be upset over art. its something you have to keep telling yourself when it gets rough.

for instance, when i paint, by the time im finished i end up noticing a million small errors. but i tend to just move on, telling myself that ill remember it and fix it next time. im happier that way, and i keep painting because im not stuck in the mud over some mistakes. if its worth anything, im probably high beg (inb4 pyw) and i still get impostor syndrome, self hate, etc etc. its just the mindset i have to change. this was harder as a beginner, figure drawing would make me so mad that i would bite my stylus. ive seen people here learn in a week what took me probably a year and a half to figure out. but consistency let me come out the other side alright. just keep trucking and appreciate learning, and know that hard struggles lead to more learning.

>> No.4030421

>>4030408
>ive seen people here learn in a week what took me probably a year and a half to figure out
I've been practicing for ~2 years and feel like I have made zero to none overall progress, I haven't figured anything helpful out, just learned how to draw one or two things a little bit better. I'm a beg forever but someone has to be.

>> No.4030423

>>4030421
go do dynamic sketching with peter han if you havent, then go learn how to do still life drawing (greyscale, working with values). im taking a shot in the dark but im guessing you might have started to learn by drawing people, and i think thats the wrong way to go.

good luck anon! sorry if i assumed too much

>> No.4030428

>>4030423
>im taking a shot in the dark but im guessing you might have started to learn by drawing people, and i think thats the wrong way to go.
Not quite, I started with just imagination stuff, and then started to draw stuff around my house, wtih varying degrees of success.
I don't want to sound like a whiny bitch or a special snowflake but I don't get anything out of tutorials and guides, they just don't appeal to me. Maybe I'm too egoistical but when they say "do like this" I say but "that's stupid" and when I try to follow them I suck ass. "Do cubes and cylinders where they seem to be on a model" what, I see no shapes. I see lines and shades, am I autistic or just a moron.

>> No.4030448

>>4029290
Very cute frogs!

>> No.4030455

>>4030428
not the person you’ve been replying to but I do want to say that learning to draw forces you to think and see differently. it doesn’t come naturally, it’s something you have to teach yourself. most people don’t naturally see boxes or grids in life, but when you read and study enough you start to see perspective lines in everyday life. when I first started taking drawing seriously in high school, in art class I would just draw the contours of a model and didn’t know any better (and also wasn’t taught otherwise by our lovely us school system) and I would get frustrated that I wasn’t seeing tangible results. sure, I could copy sight size but wasn’t able to draw at the same level from imagination. my abilities were limited to the contours and shadows of what I could see in front of me. now I think I’ve improved some with the help of resources posted on /ic/. you have to force yourself to see those shapes and find a method that works for you. eventually it will click, you just have to press on and keep practicing.

>> No.4030476
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>>4030455
I have major problem with guidelines.

>> No.4030490

>>4028335
Loomis has a big jawline.

>> No.4030496
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>>4028943
Inking is my favorite part of drawing. It’s like when you bake the cake, everything solidifies. You only need one inking resource - pic related

>> No.4030498

>>4030455
Can yoi post an example of what feeling the form of a figure is to you?

>> No.4030499

>>4030364
>>4030378
I'm not him and not suicidal, but I mostly feel tired.

>> No.4030501

>>4030499
I'm stfu guy and honestly I felt tired after 20 minutes of drawing at first and it was incredibly frustrating but as the months went by it steadily became more and more enjoyable because I felt like I wasfinally gaining enough footing .

>> No.4030505

>>4030496
This is cool and all but IT'S NOT TELLING ME HOW TO NOT INK AND DRAW WOBBLY INES LIKE I'M A FUCKING RETARD REEE

>> No.4030507

>>4030505
That’s an easy answer

JUST DRAW FAGGOT!!!

>> No.4030511

>>4030505
a tutorial can’t teach you how to have a steady hand, that’s 100% practice my friend. ink ten drawings and then come back to me, you’ll see at least 30% improvement. I guarantee it.

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>>4030476
>>4030392
>>4029993
>>4029964
>>4029730
>>4029682
>>4029673
>>4029639
>>4029636
>>4029540
>>4029503
>>4029439
>>4029395
>>4029470
>>4029171
>>4029156
>>4029014
>>4028963
>>4028938
>>4028918
>>4028818
>>4028811
>>4028750
>>4028703
>>4028521
>>4028452
>>4028449
>>4028412
practice this pls

>> No.4030517
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In Hampton book and started the landmarks chapter again. I still can't tell if I'm doing something wrong cause I started it or i am missing something crucial. Maybe pen is a bad idea?

>> No.4030520

>>4030516
this isn't how you get (You)s

>> No.4030521

>>4030520
I'm trying to help you..

>> No.4030522

>>4030516
it'd be helpful if you provided a resource or recommendation for learning something like that, instead of just a dog with shapes over it

>> No.4030524

>>4030516
based thomas fluharty

>> No.4030525

>>4030516
That doesn't make any sense

>> No.4030526

>>4030522
fundamentals of drawing - schoolism
famous artists course - part 2 the BASICS of drawing
everyone in this thread should forget about figure drawing books
they are too advanced for you
you shouldn't be worrying about anatomy
you should practice the BASICS of drawings
otherwise you are wasting your time

>> No.4030529
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>>4030516

>> No.4030532

>>4030526
>you should practice the BASICS of drawings
Basics don't help if you don't know what the fuck to do with all those shitty cubes and circles.

>> No.4030533

>>4030526
>lol dude just do this $500 course instead

very helpful, truly enlightening

>> No.4030535

>>4030395
bump?

>> No.4030536

>>4030526
>otherwise you are wasting your time
Maybe I want to waste my time.

>> No.4030543

>>4030532
the resources I linked literally tell you what to think about WHILE drawing, what to do with the cubes and spheres, etc etc
They literally TELL YOU
WHAT QUESTIONS TO ASK WHILE DRAWING
you will only waste your time, if you try to do this on your own
learning from people who are MASTERS is the only way to go
trust me on this one, I am a fellow ngmi who has wasted years of his life doing the exact same exercises you are doing
you all lack the information needed to get better
I am giving it to you free, listen or not idc

>> No.4030544

>>4030526
Fundies are boring, just draw is better advice. Mileage is way more important. Most of these people have only drawn for 10-20hrs and are not even sure if it interests them.

This is like jumping into physics formulas without any cool demos

>> No.4030546

>>4030533
You can pirate it on gfxpeers
FREE leech ;)

>> No.4030548

>>4030544
you can't draw if you don't know what to pay attention to while drawing
copying photographs isn't going to get you anywhere
you need to know what to think about WHILE drawing
how is this boring?
They are literally get out a reference/draw from life, and just draw
you are doing the same thing, except you are improving faster
fundies are FUN

>> No.4030549

>>4030543
>Dogs ear is a triangle
Well good, but what the fuck does that help with the proprotions when the ear is actually partially in, partially out and 20% of the triangle is empty.

>> No.4030550

>>4030548
>how is this boring?
Yeah how is drawing circles and tubes instead of a dog boring.

>> No.4030553

>>4030516
>the snout is a tube and the head is a circle. Oh dear, now that I started to work the dog out the tube is too long and the whole things is ruined, gosh darnit.

>> No.4030556

EVERYBODY JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP AND DRAW

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>>4030507
>>4030511
ALRIGHT THEN YOU FUCKS AAAAAHH

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>>4028335
> /beg/ level scanner

I learnt how to do lips today and also fucked around with a black pastel instead of a pencil so that's nice, I guess.

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>>4030553
>>4030550
idk dude, maybe that's how you ACTUALLY draw a dog? :)

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>>4030553
>tube is too long
bro.. go be a printer and follow your dumb betty edwards book if you want to be forever beg, but don't question this man
>wtf??? this looks nothing like the reference, he didn't even copy it precisely, what a failure
please anon
stfu AND PRACTICE SEEING THIS STUFF IRL

>> No.4030573

>>4030566
>>4030571
Disgusting

>> No.4030574

>>4028346
Can't tell if you're actually able to draw forms or of you've just memorized where shadows go on a 0° tilt face.
Pick a harder pose with some real perspective distortion. Frontal face is basically just a box in 1 point sitting in front of the VP.

>> No.4030580

>>4030521
I appreciate the help, anon. I actually found a free version of the tutorial after a little searching. Pretty glld stuff there. Thanks again!

>> No.4030581

>>4028366
Gesture is pretty floaty. The shape of the gestural form communicates a lot about the weight and spring-yness of the pose on a hard surface under gravity. Your gestures don't feel weighted at all.

>> No.4030585

>>4030571
>AND PRACTICE SEEING THIS STUFF IRL
No. And you can't make me.

>> No.4030586

>>4028404
You missed the point of drawing boxes, none of them are in perspective.
Look at your tilted parallel lines, they don't converge to any vanishing point, most of them stay parallel even when implied to be tilted.
You need to learn how to draw boxes and cylinders in perspective before you can use them correctly. Then you need to learn how you can stack multiple of these forms with respect to a single horizon line for a single object.

>> No.4030592

>>4030496
Artist of the Cham pic. Inking is my favorite part of drawing too! Problem is that it's technically painting and i should learn to draw before paint...

>> No.4030595

>>4030517
You're not as far off as you think you are, dude. The man's right arm and the woman's right arm are a bit off (their right). And the woman's gesture is a bit stiffer than it needs to be (her right leg is further thrown back than in your drawing).

But otherwise you're on the right track.

>> No.4030596

>>4028449
Learn to draw forms in perspective. It's clear you don't know how and you're just guessing at the form or adding bs contours to try and emulate 3d forms.

>> No.4030601
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>>4030573
there, I did this in ~30 min, if anyone thinks this will help them, go and do it pls

>> No.4030604

>>4030595
Alright, its just that the examples these instructors give look so clean and professional that I have little clue if im on the right track

>> No.4030606

>>4028452
Perspective has no consistency, wheres my eye level supposed to be? Contours don't communicate anything meaningful, forms partially hidden from view don't make any sense in the context of connecting to other forms.

>> No.4030608

>>4030604
I know exactly how you feel. I've been following NMA courses and I'd draw along with the instructor and I pause the video so I can do exactly what he's doing and when we're both done I look at the shit I made and I can't fathom how I could have possibly gone so off while literally copying what he's doing.

Don't worry about it. They've been doing it for literal decades.

>> No.4030609

>>4030557
https://drawabox.com/lesson/1/2
the first 3 lessons is the closest you'll get to teaching you to have a steady hand

tl;dr draw with your shoulder and arm, not with your wrist

>> No.4030610

>>4030517
not a direct answer to your needs but just throwing it out there: try drawing parts of the figure at a time. drawing the entire thing can be overwhelming. try drawing one leg (upper leg connecting to lower leg), or the barrel of the torso (ribcage connecting to pelvis), and then in a separate drawing try drawing the whole figure. rinse and repeat. its the connection between parts that really matters!

>> No.4030611
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4030611

>>4030601
He doesn't feel so good

>> No.4030614

>>4028492
Bottom thumb is broken. Top right has inconsistent horizon lines from finger to finger, implying finger tilt, but nothing else about then implies that. Top right wrist is to thin.
Don't stylize the finger tips, draw your fingers as you actually see them.

>> No.4030621

>>4028668
Are the details that you're adding meaningful to the purpose of the shot, or are you just adding more work because you don't have a clear idea about what the purpose is?

Clutter doesn't make things better, distill your backgrounds to their major forms and compositions. Add more granular information as necessary, otherwise you're just shoving in useless distracting filler.

>> No.4030624

>>4030586
I see. That makes a lot of sense. I would assume this would apply to every box I tried to set at an angle

>> No.4030625

>>4028711
Great, now complicate it. Add spheres, curves. Tilt things off angle. Try different shots by moving any of your 3 vps. Explore.

>> No.4030632

>>4030252
How can you be so good at the body and so bad at the face? How does that happen?

>> No.4030634

>>4028904
This is wrong, 1 point perspective does not mean that the object is directly in front of you, it means that 2 directions of an object's parallel lines are perpendicular to the picture plane. Parallel lines going vertically and horizontally can be at 90° to the picture plane while not being directly in front of the viewer.
Your "correction" just changed the image into a 2 point perspective by tilting the boxes.

>> No.4030638

>>4030252
what is bad about the face? help me, bro

>> No.4030643

>>4030638
Not that guy but it's not that it's particularly bad... it's that there's a discrepancy between the way you did the body and the way you did the face. It looks like you just threw an idea of a nose, lips, and eyes in there and called it a day. There's no shading, no value, no adherence to form, it's all too flat. Also there's not enough skull.

>> No.4030657
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4030657

>>4030634
I don't quite get what you mean, I mean his stuff is obviously wrong, can you elaborate with a picture so I understand it better
this is what the OP was trying to do, like, when I observe something in real life, it only has parallel lines to the horizon if it is in front of me, as it starts moving away,
I start looking at it at an angle, and it becomes 2 point perspective
this is how I see it irl, can you show me an example of what you mean?

This picture is what I understand by what you are saying
Are you implying it is correct?

>> No.4030665
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4030665

>>4030624
All parallel lines that are not perpendicular to the picture plane will recede towards a a single vanishing point.
I'd suggest you take a dedicated course in perspective to learn it fully (I recommend Marshal Vandruff's course.)

>> No.4030677

>>4030657
>>4030634
here is a quick google search supporting my claim
http://www.benzilla.com/?p=3683

>> No.4030684

>>4030516
Reard I'm not even /beg/, why are you linking me?

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4030693

>>4030684
I looked it over and you are >>4029171 this anon right? m bad

>>4030632
I tried fixing it, send help

>> No.4030698
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4030698

>>4030498
here are some figures I did from imagination except the loomis mannequin ofc. this is old though so I’m gonna try and do some new ones tonight

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>> No.4030714

I'm trying to do the Ghosting lines exercise but every fucking time I go to draw the actual line, my line turns out utter crap. I'm shaky, the line goes in the wrong direction. It looks like a retard is playing with crayons.

>> No.4030715
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4030715

>>4030708

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>>4030715

>> No.4030724

>>4030714
I think my pencil is "hovering" too high above the page, so when I move in to draw the line, my hand position changes too much. If that makes sense. I don't know if I should just not hover my hand so much?

>> No.4030730
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4030730

>>4030715

>> No.4030731

>>4030730
idk why this is flipped

>> No.4030734

>>4030677
>>4030657
OP didn't place the single VP in the center of frame, which is unnatural for a human view as your link discussed. However that doesn't make him wrong, it means the picture plane was cropped unnaturally to a human's view, but is unrelated to what you were trying to correct.
The redline you made to OPs image tilted the horizontal lines, and you did this because it's what you observed. The issue with that is that humans don't see the world in perfect 1 point perspective even when the conditions are met for 1 point. This is because our eyes are lenses and lines will distort towards the edge of our vision. That's important to know when you want to include that distortion, but it is not necessary for true 1 point perspective.

>> No.4030736
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4030736

>>4030734
>>4030657
Here's an example, though my camera is also a lens giving it a small amount of distortion as well. In true one point, the front planes should just be undistorted squares.

>> No.4030740
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4030740

>>4030734
Forgot image

>> No.4030758

>>4030516
I wanted to get shat on and given detailed advice, not this

>> No.4030780
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4030780

any feedback on the anatomy/pose/proportions?

>> No.4030784

>>4030378
exercise and hang out with friends. Thats the depression killer

>> No.4030797

>>4030780
ayy dios mio

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4030826

>>4030780
all the limbs are too long but the left arm is too short, I think the torso should face more toward the right instead dead center, good luck anon

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4030836

A modern DeLorean would be so boring and stupid. It would be like a Tesla but objectively worse. The only thing appealing about it is it's aesthetic 80s boxiness. These cars were also infamously underpowered overpriced and had shit materials and build quality.

>> No.4030838

>>4030826
ty anon

>> No.4030876
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4030876

Should I retry the Loomis cartoon or just go to the next one even if I'm shit?
All the old stuff was done months ago but I took a break and now am basically super bad. And the ladybug is looking really good considering it was one of my first drawing/copy ever.

>> No.4030881

>>4030876
>All the old stuff was done months ago but I took a break
Restart.

>> No.4030886

>>4030876
You clearly have 0 understanding of form. Go check out Peter Han's Dynamic Sketching or drawabox

>> No.4030888

Alright anons, how do you practice perspective? Using simple forms like cubes and cylinders and whatnot?

>> No.4030897

>>4030876
Im shocked you're having a hard time with Loomis cartoons

>> No.4030903

>>4030516
Where is this from?

>> No.4030913

>>4030526
>fundamentals of drawing - schoolism
>famous artists course - part 2 the BASICS of drawing
Can't find anything, help me I'm autistic.

>> No.4030938
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4030938

>>4030888
landmarks

>> No.4030966
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4030966

I don't fucking get these cubes man

>> No.4030984

>>4030966
That is quite a phallic middle finger.

>> No.4030994

>>4030016
>proceeds to do exactly that
Why are you lying, anon?

>> No.4031003

>>4030731
>>4030730
>>4030715
>>4030708
I'd say youre good enough to leave /beg/
Nice studies anon

>> No.4031037

>>4030984
Thanks, I guess.

>> No.4031089

>>4030608
Guess it pays not to stay in one place for long and work on some other fundamentals too. I think ill rotate a subject every week, like construction/form one week and perspective the next.

>> No.4031091

>>4030784
That doesn't help with real depression m8, I've tried it.

>> No.4031135

>>4031091
I'm sorry to hear that

>> No.4031141

new>>4031139

>> No.4032298

>>4030258
do Drawabox

>> No.4033398

>>4028346
>>4028697
>>4028750
leave beg
>>4028963
whats the reference for top right?
>>4029241
you /could/ leave beg
>>4029266
soon
>>4029275
leave beg
>>4029290
leave beg
>>4029298
leave beg
>>4029310
leave beg
>>4029387
leave i/c completely and stop using reflect tool you degenerate furfag scum
>>4029730
leave beg
>>4029904
leave beg
>>4029958
leave beg and post in correct orientation
>>4030389
you have good form, its all lining issues, i may redline you later
>>4030516
kill yourself
>>4030566
leave beg
>>4030708
shapes design issues, drawing with shapes, ignore form for those exercises.

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4033404

>>4033398
oh and im Nosebro, my bad. Havent posted in a while. Fuck off with your lack of confidence guys. Post in the appropriate threads.

>> No.4033410

>>4033398
>you have good form, its all lining issues, i may redline you later
Looking forward to it. I just don't get how to do good lines.

>> No.4033415

>>4033410
ill make a vid for you, remind me if i dont by calling my name. brb 4 hours.

>> No.4033555

>>4033410
https://screencast-o-matic.com/watch/cqiZ09O4GG

>> No.4033611
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4033611

>>4033555
>>4033555
Thanks I appreciate the video.

The reason the hands and ears are so big is because I'm trying to capture the look of the look of the show. I'm not trying to make it look 100% like it but that's my excuse. And yeah the feet are long in the original.

The way you do the lines in that video, is that how you do the final lines in your work? Constantly drawing then undo'ing until you get it right? I dunno what you draw with but I draw from a fairly small tablet (Wacom Bamboo medium size), is that method viable for me?

>> No.4033627
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4033627

>>4033611
Also, you said to draw the fingers and toes as a whole. If I do this for a pose where the fingers are fairly separate from each other what do you do to finally separate them?

I drew this quick example to show you what I mean, Sorry for the scratchy lines.

>> No.4033638

>>4033627
Also, I draw from the wrist. Is that a bad habit? And is there no way to download videos from that site?

>> No.4033714

>>4033638
drawing from the wrist doesnt matter much, her hands are actually small in the ref. My lines are more accurate when theyre my own lines, youre not expected to ctrl z every time like me.

>> No.4033913

>>4028703
uebivay na dvach, mudak