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4018783 No.4018783 [Reply] [Original]

huh what's this? Have westerners actually discovered an appealing style?

>> No.4018785
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>> No.4018786
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4018791

hmm

>> No.4018794

So, where's the appealing pictures OP is talkimg about?

>> No.4018795
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>>4018794
:D

>> No.4018800

>>4018783
>>4018785
looks like the generic edgy tumblr art style without the intentional ugliness

>> No.4018803
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4018803

>no line weight
in the trash it goes

>> No.4018804

>>4018791
best pic itt

>> No.4018807
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4018807

>>4018800
not really

>> No.4018811

>>4018783
It’s fully fine. It looks easy to churn out.

>> No.4018813

>>4018807
>NO WAY FAG

>> No.4018816

>>4018783
actually hang yourself. you brainless tasteless cancer on this gay earth.

>> No.4018826

>>4018783
That's like anime meets family guy. I like it. Would like to see a Netflix show that looks like this

>> No.4018847
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4018847

Is there an appealing western cartoon/comic style out there that isn't Disney and isn't obviously anime-based? Serious question.

>> No.4018851

>>4018783
"Westerners" constitutes such a board amount of art and art styles. What's the point generalizing to such a degree?

>> No.4018863

>>4018783
>>4018785
>>4018786
>>4018807
Marreeps is the only reason why i am still on deviantart. I really adore her style. I am suprised she was even mentioned since everyone here circle jerks the same old anime and souless concept art shit.

>> No.4018879

>>4018847
Tradd Moore comes to mind.

>> No.4018885

>>4018847
Not unless you go way back, and then it's still Disney. I think the original western style that wasn't influenced by eastern aesthetics was the original Mickey Mouse and Looney Tunes style alongside semi-realistic comic books like Cap America and Superman. Once the East got a hold of American animation then the East and West started merging art styles.

Today, the west has mostly settled into the following:

- Heavily anime inspired (basically anime, like The Last Airbender)
- Disney anime-but-more-realistic (see last paragraph)
- Cartoon Network highly stylised (circle eyes, wide cheek)
- Comic books (Semi-realistic)

What's aesthetically pleasing is obviously subjective.

Personally I love the Disney style. The concept art books for Frozen, Inside Out and Tangled are a fucking treasure trove of beautiful concept art and only further confirm the fact that CGI is absolutely soul-less.

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>>4018847
Brandon Graham is my current personal fav from the US

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4018902

>>4018847
moebius

>> No.4018903

>>4018803
>no line weight
>most anime features no line weight
Kek

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>>4018783
I've been really liking these sorts of styles lately, big heads, big eyes, and skinny limbs

>> No.4018914

>>4018783
line art too consistent for me but probably because its cartoon? its alright 7/10

>> No.4018916

>>4018903
Honestly in this case it looks more like it was influenced by western animation lineart.

>> No.4018917

>>4018783
looks childish just like anime

>> No.4018919

does intfarm's non-anime stuff count as western?

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>>4018910

>> No.4018923

>>4018902
have you heard of Gainen15? It's a combined group of artists that I think you might like. You probably have heard of atleast some artists involved in it

https://www.instagram.com/gainen15/?hl=en

Dont just check the art, check the artists who made each post, they're all unique in their own ways. I like Mako Vice's.

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>>4018921
Nothing pedo about appreciating two cute boys in love, anon

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>>4018923
holy shit that's my fetish

>> No.4018958

>>4018807
>pronouns listed on deviantart
>talks in tumblrspeak
>titles art with lol so randum xD references
She's just diet tumblr. But I will admit her art-style is leagues above the usual tumblr shit.

>> No.4018965

>>4018783
there is alot of style out there you just have to stop shitposting on ic and find them

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>>4018958
>the usual tumblr shit.
Do people on /ic/ ever actually look through art on Tumblr or do they just look at SJW cringe art threads

>> No.4018971

>>4018783
I like Mareeps artwork.

>> No.4018975

>>4018967
>SJW cringe art threads
To be fair those are just /lolcow/ and Kiwifarms refugees.

>> No.4018986

>>4018847
Hellboy.

>> No.4019029

>>4018783
>>4018785
>>4018786
>>4018791
>>4018807

shadmans new style looks sicko mode

>> No.4019031

>>4019029
you gotta check your eyes

>> No.4019152

>>4018921
I thought it was chibi because of the blonde guy looks like those typical live-action characters (e.g. avenger movies, superwholock, whatever the fuck) that were popular during the time; and the girl on top was his serial killer gf(male).

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>>4018847

Monsieur Purcell

>> No.4019263
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4019263

>>4018847
anatola howard.

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>>4018847
yeah

>> No.4019272

>>4019263
her legs look kind of fucked

>> No.4019281
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>>4019272
stylistic choice, it’s just very exaggerated

>> No.4019286

>>4019281
Its not exaggerated in a good way. She breaks their legs in a way that's unnatural to human beings. Not to be an anatomyfag, but they look extremely bad because they don't even follow the same structure as a normal human leg. And her stylization of it just makes them look even more jarring and broken

>> No.4019292

>>4019272
Not only her legs...

>> No.4019560

>>4018803
>line weight

Is that what's it's fucking called? I've just been going by the prospect it's just thicker lines. Didn't know it had it's own term and all.

>> No.4019575

>>4018783
Mareeps unfollowed me and her other mutual after some time. I'm still a bit salty but more leaning on the paranoid side

>> No.4019918
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>>4019286
you’re free to think that, i think it looks good. i like the look of anatomy or perspective that doesn’t make 100% sense but is drawn that way on purpose. to each their own!

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>>4019918
I like Anatola Howard's animal drawings more than her humans, but her humans are really fun too.

>> No.4019931

>>4019923
they’re all great! i kind of miss her older pieces like the one you posted but i really like her character designs she’s doing right now. it’s really just so fun and there’s always something to look at which makes it such a good style to me. tons of soul.

>> No.4020949

>>4018826
exactly what I am saying! It's legit a new style of drawing, like anime mixed with cartoons!

I hope more people pick it up, and that the japs aren't able to do it that way we can one up them for once

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>>4018921
>mfw i'll never get to suck Ana's finger

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Idiotic weeb

>> No.4021224

>>4018783
Westerners already have a lot of good styles and that cal+disney hybrid isent one of them

>> No.4021245

>>4018888
Man Brandon Graham is awesome but I think Stokoe has better colors. My buddy is friends with Graham and he's apparently pretty chill.

>> No.4022090

>>4018783
All stylized art searches for some form of appeal. It has nothing to do with where you come from, but you knew that already and are just baiting anyway.

>> No.4022133

>>4018783
>call tumblrshit appealing style
this board really went down hill

>> No.4022169

>>4022090
explain the fact that the japs are consistently better at anime then? Even accounting for skill, the japs still end up having a unique (and imo better) style.

>> No.4022195

>>4021245
He IS super chill. I've been a fan of his for over 10 yrs and he recently shared my art page in his Instagram story. I thought I'd piss myself

>> No.4022285

>>4018910
I jack off to this.

>> No.4022359

>>4022169
You're oversimplifying things. Anime is anime because it is Japanese. That doesn't mean that every japanese artist has an innately appealing style.
What are you basing your idea of unique off of? Disney cartoons vs Shounen? New Yorker illustrations vs Manga?
You use too broad a brush.

>> No.4022386

>>4022359
westerners cannot into anime like the japs can, is what i'm getting at.

You can chalk the shittiness of western anime to tumblrinas not even trying to do proper anime, and doing intentionally ugly shit, but even here on /ic/ where they really are trying to learn anime they aren't as good and everyone struggles like hell.

>> No.4022424

>>4022386
Anime doesn’t sell well compared to the blizzard stylization everyone is using in the game industry

>> No.4022471

>>4022424
okay let me just move on

my main concern is that westerners can't into appealing cyoot gorls like the japs can, which is clearly true. yes they do have western cartoons, however they are usually degenerate, literally gay, and not cute. HOWEVER, there seems to be a new style (as pioneered by mareeps and the like) that is similar to anime in terms of it's cuteness and clean quality and type, except it isn't really anime. It's like if westerners made cartoonified anime, and it's great, it's cute and I love it. and I hope it catches on so we can one up the japs.

Drawing wise, pretty much the only things the west is good at is comedic cartoons like family guy, noticeably fluid 2D animations with old Disney and such, and best in class 3D animation with Hollywood and Disney.
Otherwise it's the japs with tons of cute, cool, basically mass produced content of all kinds in anime and manga, though they have ass 3D.

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>>4022471
>one up the japs.
laughs in animu

>> No.4022515

>>4022471
its funny how you take your opinion and bias to anime as facts

>> No.4022520

>>4018783

>compares to studio trigger

this has no soul

>> No.4022542

>>4022515
oh what because art is subjective? get out of here pretentious normie faggot, anime litterally is better. I heard european comics are pretty good, but even if there are good european styles, anime is ALWAYS gonna be good... when it's done by a jap anyways.

>> No.4022553

>>4022542
>anime litterally is better
damn weebs are really autistic. go fap to your lolis pedo

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>>4022553
ok retard

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>>4022553
I mean look how good this is, how can westerners even compete?

>> No.4022843

>>4019153
Based.

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>>4018783
>Have westerners actually discovered an appealing style?
yes they have, more than 2 whole fuckin decades ago ya dingus
>b-but muh cute girls
shut the fuck up

>> No.4024893

>>4018847

Depends what you consider Disney and/or Appealing. I think 90s Nickelodeon is rather appealing, particularly Ahhh! Real Monsters and Rocko. But people also call them ugly. I don't think either are very Disney-esque.

>> No.4026084

>>4022542
>art is subjective
I mean yea, it actually
as long as you can clearly see the artist's effort put into the piece at a mere glance then literally EVERYTHING ELSE that you think of by this point it is subjective you smoothbrain

>> No.4026094

>>4026084
art is based on taste, but it is not in any way arbitrary, and so therefor it is not subjective; or rather not subjective in the sense that it is arbitrary, but subjective in the sense that it is based on taste.

Proof?
There are very specific patterns that match people's tastes, and many people's converge towards having the same tastes. This would be impossible in something truly arbitrary, therefor it is not arbitrary.

Yes I have already spent time thinking about this.

>> No.4026195

>>4022854
I like you anon. I like hellboy too. good lad.

>> No.4026202

>>4018800

You don't even know what you're saying anymore.

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>>4022542
>oh what because art is subjective? get out of here pretentious normie faggot, anime litterally is better. I heard european comics are pretty good, but even if there are good european styles, anime is ALWAYS gonna be good.
Jesus fucking christ.

>> No.4026218

>>4022471
>>4022386
japan literally has cute culture, an art obsessed history built straight into the poetry of their language. the art scene is respected and there's real paths to be taken professionally if one has the drive. whereas the west has become an anti-culture monster cannibalizing itself. the issue isn't really about "being japanese". it's just everything else is so utterly fucked or starving.

>> No.4026219

>>4019268
I appreciate them going for a different style but I couldn't stand the way spiderverse looked and was animated. But again, I really appreciate them deviating from that generic dough-eyed disney/dreamworks style.

>> No.4026747

>>4026094
>not subjective in the sense that it is arbitrary, but subjective in the sense that it is based on taste.
yes exactly, thanks for agreeing with me

>> No.4026826

>>4024893
I agree
I always preferred cartoony styles over anime ones

>> No.4026832

>>4018783
>appealing style
>looks flat
go back to /beg/

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>>4026747
then you can agree that anime is objectively better at hitting the mark for those with a taste for cute girls?

While I have seen cute western styles of girls do definitely exist, those are the exception not the rule. Clearly anime is 10x more invested in making cute girls.

Here's another way of putting it; western animation tries to make things appealing by making their art very, very animated - and they genuinely good at doing that! I'm not shitting on that because I know it is true, I can see the appeal for myself.

However Japanese art tries to make things appealing by making it cute/pretty, and according to my tastes, I am more interested in cute/pretty things than very animated things, (although I like both) which of course I have made very clear, and its really all I've been talking about.


It is, litterally true that the japs are better at appealing girls, because they are so good at making them cute/pretty.

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>>4026899
>Clearly anime is 10x more invested in making cute girls.
I mean if that's where you want to set your goalpost then sure
still doesn't change the fact that anything beyond this point is purely subjective and you're still trying tocite your own tastes as the law

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>>4026921
what is the point of anime as an art if it is not cute or pretty? There would be no appeal left. Some anime are very animated and cool, and that can be the appeal too (like mecha, or edgy stuff), or maybe that it is realistic (seinin) but that's mainly for actual animes, not the style which people commonly draw anime pictures of and favorite on pinterest.

It's not uncommon for a cartoon art to not look nice with ugly or mishapen characters and instead focus on the comedy, or look nice in a childrens book sort of way with lots of animal characters and focus on being animated n pretty backgrounds n stuff (disney). Westerners are good at fairytails and fairytail settings, and those are definitely nice, but they are nice in a wholesome kind of way, not in a pretty people sort of way. They can definitely do cartoons too, but simple cartoons that aren't detailed like pretty people are.

Now if that is the main appeal of anime online, then is there anything wrong in saying that that is what matters in anime? That if you are good at anime, it is more or less about how good you are at making pretty characters?

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>>4026952
>what is the point of anime as an art if it is not cute or pretty?
>proceeds to answer himself right after that in the same paragraph
you said previously how "you spent time thinking about this." and yet all you do is ramble in circles in hope of exhausting the other person. Also
>Now if that is the main appeal of anime online
Citing your own tastes again, not everybody likes anime for the cute factor
Some people (like me) just really like the way Japs animate in general, how they do smoke or dust effects, how they animate fight scenes and dynamic motion in general, how they do backgrounds etc.
and that's fine because, again, THESE ARE MY OWN TASTES

>> No.4026996

>>4026978
I don't get how you're not picking up what I'm putting down. What is your position, that everything is subjective and so there is no point comparing art? because that is a load of horseshit, you can compare art.

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>>4026899
no offense anon but you seem very shallow. As many cute girls anime can have, many are done cheaply, with no soul and no passion. The girls might look cute but is that really the only necessary thing for appeal?
If you take someone like Princess Peach you'll notice that yes, cuteness is there, but it's also a simple, cartoony sleek design.

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>>4026832
>Not liking intentionally flat art

>> No.4027025

>>4018803
What kind of pen would you use for these lines?

>> No.4027032

>>4027022
yeah im sorry i prefer real artwork

>> No.4027036

>>4027025
You’d use a brush! You can use a pocket brush pen but you’d be better off with actual brushes and ink

>> No.4027044

>>4026996
Not that anon, but yes, everything about art is subjective.
I just posted >>4027022 because I love flat art styles, and >>4027032 just said he hated them. I love the look and anon clearly doesn't, that is subjectivity. I can't argue that flat is somehow "better" because whether flat is good or bad is a matter of subjective opinion, and personal taste. I really don't know how someone can argue art is supposed to be objective in any way.

>> No.4027045

>>4026996
>What is your position, that everything is subjective and so there is no point comparing art?
idk how you got to that last part but okay
first part is right tho, everything apart from the things like artist's experience, the effort put into the piece and other objective stuff that I'm forgetting is purely judged by the eye of a beholder AND NOTHING ELSE

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>>4027022
>"""""""INTENTIONALLY FLAT"""""""
thanks for the laugh anon

>> No.4027054

>>4027045
>>4027044
are you retarded? How do you not make a connection between these two?

>I can't argue that flat is somehow "better" because whether flat is good or bad is a matter of subjective opinion
>idk how you got to that last part but okay (so there is no point comparing art)

If art is subjective, then it cannot be compared between two. But art can be compared based on tastes. Here is a way of thinking of it; everyone who has eyes to see cuteness will see that this thing is cute. If you do not posess eyes to see cuteness, you will not see it as cute - but that does not make the thing not cute; you just don't have eyes to see it. If you did have eyes, you would see it.

>> No.4027058

>>4027054
>But art can be compared based on tastes
Yes. Anon. Exactly.
that's the 2nd time now that you offhandedly agreed with me (intentionally or not)
are you okay?

>> No.4027067

>>4026218
>the art scene is respected
>Japan
Nope, it's more socially acceptable to pursue art in the west than in Japan, Artists and illustrators are often looked down upon in Japanese society.

>> No.4027069

>>4027054
tl;dr anime is trash go get a real job

>> No.4027080

>>4027067
>Artists and illustrators are often looked down upon in Japanese society.
not really a big weeb but this sounds like bullshit to me, pls elaborate

>> No.4027082

here's another example, I don't like dubstep, but even though I don't like dubstep I can still recognise that it sounds cool - it's just that I don't care about cool things.

Or what about food - I can still recognise that something is spicy or not spicy - its just that I don't like spice; but if I did like spice I know that I might like this food, because I can tell that is spicy in a way that I might like if I did like spice.

Even a man who does not have a taste for something can still to a limited extent tell whether or not it is good according to that taste, even if he does not actually like that taste. What this means is that everyone can recognise that something is cool or uncool, even if they don't personally care for cool things - which means we can compare things in a way that we can all agree (to an extent).
This seems to be something that you agree with, but that is not all that is true.


You must admit that peoples tastes are not arbitrary, they tend towards very concrete and real traits/patterns, for example men being attracted to big bazingas, because it represents female fertility - that is not arbitrary or random, but very specific. But if it isn't arbitrary, then it can be mapped according to an ideal pattern or form, where this ideal is the pinicle of the image of fertility, and everything starts to seem more fertile the closer it looks to this ideal look. So the "hypothetical ideal" that fertile images tend towards can be used as the standard for how well you managed to capture the look of fertility - and if you captured that look well, then you did a good job - and that's not merely an opinion - it literally, objectively is like something fertile.

>> No.4027100

>>4027080
not just in Japan but most Asian parents prefer their children going into finance or engineering rather than drawing for weebs

>> No.4027110

>>4027082
>here's another example, I don't like dubstep, but even though I don't like dubstep I can still recognise that it sounds cool - it's just that I don't care about cool things.
Okay, I don't like dubstep either, and I DON'T think it sounds cool. I think it sounds obnoxious and unpleasant, I'd give you a completely different sort of song if I wanted to give you something that sounded cool, because "coolness" is subjective.

>> No.4027112

>>4027082
you just compared something as simple and biologically correct as males being attracted to female breasts to something as nuanced as having a (developed or not) taste in ART

if you unironically think these 2 things logically follow then I think we're done here

>> No.4027114

>>4027110
i find rap "music" horrible

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The west has had plenty of appealing artstyles but for some reason they never stablish themselves like animu did in japan.
Probably because people are more arrogant and overly concerned with being "different"

>> No.4027129

if there is such a thing as an ideal form of nice looking anime (as seen by the tastes of people who actually like anime), then I would say the japanese are regularly closer to that ideal.

Obviously there are litterally tons of factors and different tastes at play, but this is the west and the japs trying to draw the same thing, so the traits these drawings will posses will be very similar in principal. I don't think this is some silly bias towards japanese anime, I do think that they actually are on average closer to having good looking traits in their drawings, and that those who would think for example that western anime is better than Japanese anime would be a small minority. Especially here on /ic/ most people agree that the west is shit at anime by comparison. I take it a step further than /ic/ by also saying that the anime styles I see japanese people doing tend to be nicer that the west's attempts at anime styles even accounting for the skill gap, but that is definitely fair to disagree with, my experience could be wrong.

If there is one bias I have, its that I don't like shitlib degenerates. Jap degenerates are bad too with lolis and porn, but at least they don't fuck up the noses and do intentionally ugly shit all the time. That and I like clean works and the japs are very clean, but hey the japs can draw messy and animated too, I've seen it.

>> No.4027141
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>>4027128
To this very day I'm still mad that Ditko's style didn't take off as much as it should've and became the west's definitive style

>> No.4027158

>>4027141
100% But the same can be said about so many other individual styles.
instead you get knock off pixar as the only recognizibly western art style. sm h.

>> No.4027196

>>4018903
yeah because its cheaper, manga does tend to have line weight

>> No.4028416

>>4018816
>>4018917
>>4022133
>>4022520
>>4026832
have sex

>> No.4028451

>>4021221
Gimme the sauce boss

>> No.4028466

>>4019268
Everyone looked like shit except Noir

>> No.4028684

>>4028451
It's Hellraiser anon

>> No.4029415
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>> No.4029422
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>>4018783
>Have westerners actually discovered an appealing style?
>posts a shitty cartoon
this is how its done anon

>> No.4029426

How do you go about developing your own stylisation?

Do you just copy artists and do figure / portrait studies until you syntethise something?

>> No.4029430

>>4029422
Damn thats nice anon, sauce ?

>> No.4029432

>>4029430
its in the name of the file.Nabetse Zitro

>> No.4029453

>>4028466
would enjoy a noir Spiderman movie with the Cage

>> No.4029752

>>4018803
line weight is literally pretentious shading

>> No.4029948

>>4029752
im also gay and a minority if that matters...

>> No.4030125

>>4018803
God these lines OOOOOOO so good

>> No.4030133

>>4027100
That's generally true for most countries though

>> No.4030138

>>4027025
G pen or brush, some fineliners can do it very minimally

>> No.4030141

Her art is oddly very very sexy

>> No.4030155

>>4026218
Every place has art and cute things in its history nigga, those are some of the most basic things most humans enjoy.

>> No.4030170

>>4029426
Everything in your life that you have done, do, and will do affects YOUR style. Studying art you really like helps you to make it more refined and less chaotic though, like drawing figures with whatever teacher's methods you like.

>> No.4030225

>>4018803
Daily reminder to pray to our Franco-Belgian overlords.

>> No.4030227

>>4018785
>>4018786
>>4018791
I want this style now

>> No.4030340

>cartoony ameristyles
Has never been a good look.

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>>4018783
not_your_personal_army.jpg

>> No.4030449
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>>4018847
the original tf2 visual style is the tits (and this fanart is cute)
https://steamcdn-a.akamaihd.net/apps/valve/2007/NPAR07_IllustrativeRenderingInTeamFortress2.pdf

>> No.4030658

>>4029752
that's probably the most crab thing I've heard this month
good job

>> No.4030773
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Most people posting """appealing""" styles in this thread are actively, on a daily basis, slowing down society's progress with their corrupted aesthetic sense. I am angered beyond belief.

>> No.4030831

>>4029422
Now this is what I'm fucking talking about. Good shit. Why can't the west use styles like this in their animation/comics? Take realism, simplify it a bit to be more pleasing, and stylize a bit. It's possible for the west to be appealing without copying anime.

And it looks natural too. Capeshit is too overdone. It tends to be stiff, have gross rendering, and everyone looks like their 40 years old. The women look like plastic bimbos.

>> No.4031094

>>4027036
>>4030138
thanks guys, I'll look into brushes seems interesting.
I've used a few of those ink brushes with an ink reservoir, those are okay but I didn't feel like I had proper control of the ink flow. I'll see if I can get a seperate brush instead.

>> No.4031097

>>4030773
>implying anyone here is a redeemable part of a society
kek, good luck with that baseless smug anon

>> No.4031157

wow this is fuckin weird. im friends w marreeps
anons in this thread shitting on her are ngmis who are butthurt over her popularity
stop trying so hard lol

>> No.4031162

>>4031157
Nah, I just don’t like the art.

>> No.4031183

>>4031157
literally who ?

>> No.4031214

>>4029422
damn this is pretty cool

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>>4030831
they literally just do it for sake of being different
I can't think of literally any other rational decision that could stand behind the current state of west

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>>4018783
There are tons of western artists with great styles. You just have to dig deep through the typical tumblr shit.

>> No.4031295

>>4031183
just because you spent all your time on an anonymous image board does not mean people outside your tiny worldview arent popular lol

>> No.4031299

>>4031162
thats fair! but if all you do is shit on other artists artists and not working on your own art+marketing youre just a pathetic ngmi

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>>4031292
Actually I know they have great art, I've got like 40000 favorites on deviantart.

I made this thread to highlight the cartoon - anime mix as a uniquely western discovery that actually looks good.

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>>4019153
Based and Maxpilled

>> No.4031764

>>4019153
I love the style of Sam and Max.

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