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IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the /draw/thread with our fundamental exercises.

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, or you literally are never going to make it


previous >>4015584
RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS:
1)
>screenshot the image and post that instead
2)
>change camera capture settings to something smaller
3)
>send to computer and resize in MSPaint

READ THE STICKY if you need guidance when you haven't even started.

Sticky: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

TRY TO GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK - many studies are left unreplied, which is a bit sad and can be quite demotivating for the people that try their best to improve, but are left directionless.

>> No.4018499

Reminder to keep practicing even when it feels difficult. We're all going to make it.

>> No.4018501
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hopefully no fucked up faces or feet today

>> No.4018504
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posted in the last thread just as it died. I did this more for fun.

>> No.4018510
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my trash

>> No.4018514
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I hate going through my photos on phone in Windows. They load so fucking slow.

>> No.4018521
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>>4018490
any tips bros?

>> No.4018523

>>4018521
Read the sticky, winky dinky.

>> No.4018526

>>4018510
Anatomy is terribly off (especially the Pelvis,hips), toes are extremely small, you lack any kind of confidence with your lines.
Yet it still looks fairly solid. Keep practicing anon, you are getting very close. You just need more time to bake :)

>> No.4018527

>>4018521
Shrink these eyes, smooth the jawline, don't make neck crocked, make hair detailed, put nose and mouth on the same line and draw tentacles coming from her ears.

>> No.4018528
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4018528

AAAAAHAHAHAHA
It's all right now. Why?
FOR /beg/ MIGHT HAS COME!!

>> No.4018529

>>4018504
The right side of helmet should me more yup.
>>4018528
Right hand is more muscular than left hand.

>> No.4018530

>>4018521
Practice.
One hour a day can make a huge difference.
2 hours a day can double that difference, and so on.

>> No.4018536

>>4018529
>>4018529
Not just that anon. Right arm is lower thant it should be, angle of the legs is wrong, neck and traps are nonexistent and the head is too big, I fucked big time desu even if it was done very quickly

>> No.4018537

Went to a museum today and got the hardest artist block, and I think it was because I was used to drawing small things from pdf's.

Any tips on downscaling drawing?

Or just drawing bigger things into smaller things on paper?

>> No.4018539

>>4018521
Go to calarts bro they'll accept you with open arms

>> No.4018541
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>>4018490
...

>> No.4018545

>>4018539
I'd much sooner kill myself.

>> No.4018550

>>4018541
Keep practicing. Fur is not smooth, it has different variations in texture, opacity, and direction. Sorry you chose to be a furry bud. They are the hardest to get right.

>> No.4018554

>>4018541
Give up and jump off a bridge furfag.

>> No.4018560

>>4018541
2 weeks to draw the same thing but with pencil, that's kinda depressing my man

>> No.4018562

>>4018554
Art is art. Anthopomiphism is cool as frig, bud.

>> No.4018563

>>4018541
Ban of furfaggots shitting up the board when?

>> No.4018567

>>4018563
He posted beginner art in a beginner art thread.
>How fucking dare he

>> No.4018572

>>4018567
He also completely disregarded and ignored all advice and critiques received last time. Fuck off.

>> No.4018573
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4018573

Not a furfag, just like the show, and characters. I just started drawing, so I know I'm shit.

>> No.4018577

>>4018572
>He also completely disregarded and ignored all advice and critiques received last time. Fuck off.

It's a joke mate. Chill the fuck out.
Some people take time to understand right proper criticism mate.

>> No.4018578
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4018578

Reposting cause it was at the tail end of last thread.

Started finally on doing landmarks on gesture drawings according to Hampton's methods. Maybe it's because I just started but I think I'm missing something. Thoughts?

>> No.4018580

>>4018573
just admit you want to fuck the red panda.

>> No.4018581

>>4018573
which one is supposed to be your drawing

>> No.4018588

>>4018577
>I-IT'S A JOKE!!!
Whatever, yiff in hell.

>> No.4018593

>>4018581
Reference is in the upper left hand corner. My drawing is the centered piece.

>> No.4018594

>>4018573
>red panda
>yellow like piss

>> No.4018596

>>4018588
If you dont calm the fuck down, I will get on my knees and suck your cock clean off, bud.

>> No.4018597
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How do I tell the difference between this and "contour drawing" when I'm doing my own exercises? It's not like he is drawing a skeleton ahead of time, or following the flow of the line before he fills in the form. He just constructs the body one body part at a time in a quick fashion. I feel there's more to the choices he's making but how am I supposed to identify them?

>> No.4018598

>>4018594
Used the color picker, looked too vibrant, so I brought down the saturation.
So yeah. Now its yellow.

>> No.4018599

>>4018572
If I remember correctly all advice and criticism from the other thread was a guy that posted wolfface.jpg besides this is my passion project I'm learning to draw basic shit and applying it gradually to other drawings not furshit.

Pic related is what I can do when I try with someone else's picture, so I can draw, just not from memory anywhere near as good as this.

>> No.4018602

>>4018578
>proportions are off especially for the legs and arms
>Inaccurate foreshortening of the legs in the first two figures
>Stiff gesture
>The construction doesn't accurately suggest the forms of the reference figures. Focus more on analyzing the shapes that you see and interpreting them into your drawing than arbitrarily replacing them with tubes and cylinders

>> No.4018604

>>4018599
Where is the pic?

>> No.4018611

>>4018573
you have more potential than this furfag >>4018541

>> No.4018626
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4018626

i just draw cubes so i'm really proud of this one
thoughts?

>> No.4018627

>>4018580
I wanna fuck the hyena.

>> No.4018628

>>4018597
gesture is pretty much innate feeling you have to develop for yourself, it's hard to explain
begin every drawing day by doing gestures for 20 minutes and you'll get it over time
for now go to his other videos
also pick up any book on perspective and construction, i suggest Scott Robertson's "How to draw"
remember, learning process is cycle, not a straight line

>> No.4018629

>>4018626
Nice cubes. :)

>> No.4018631
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Rate. Sorry for the huge pic but i have to phonepost for stuff made on paper

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>>4018599
Oh fucking hell sorry.

>> No.4018637

>>4018611
The styles not my cup of tea but......goddamn man those milkers
...mmph

>> No.4018641

>>4018637
I dont really have a style. I just started in art, and am still working out the kinks.

>> No.4018642

>>4018529
>the right side of the helmet should be more yup

can you elaborate please?

>> No.4018646
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>>4018597
Gesture is all about what the thing you're drawing is doing. You capture stuff like the way it bends, twists or stretches, the angle it's at and the general position of the individual parts in relation to the rest. This may often boil down to simplified contours, but it also often doesn't.
What helped me a lot to understand gesture is watching a range of other artists do it. The way artists approach a gesture drawing can vary a lot so the results may look different but they all convey the same things.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOtVUHgJqQk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFP8L4OUL2E

>> No.4018647

>>4018631
head too small (unless guy is 2+ meters tall)
neck to torso connection is wrong
right forearm is elephant sized
right foot is squished up
pretty solid otherwise

>> No.4018652

>>4018602
Well back to the drawing board to figure out how to improve on each of these problems.

>> No.4018654
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>> No.4018656

>>4018652
it comes to practicing gesture and construction pretty much

>> No.4018657

>>4018642
Sorry, what I meant was that there should be more yup in the right side of the helmet.

>> No.4018659

>>4018629
thanks brah

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>>4018642
*up.

>> No.4018677

>>4018654
Arm is broken. Yo can rotate the lower part slightly right.

>> No.4018678

>>4018671
10/10 beautiful masterpiece.

>> No.4018680

>>4018678
It should go to museums.

>> No.4018681

>>4018671
Will keep this in mind next time. Well, honestly I'm glad that's the only thing that bothered you about it. And that you bothered to comment at all. Also print that picture and put it on the fridge.

>> No.4018683

>>4018680
The Smithsonian, even.

>> No.4018688

>>4018683
With a nametag that just says "up"

>> No.4018691
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>>4018688
>not oohp

>>4018681
pic related.

>> No.4018693

>>4018501
Looks neat. Do you have a blog?

>> No.4018700

>>4018693
nah

>> No.4018701

>>4018691
Nah, I just thought " old dirty man with blue shirt and big moustache with kinda french helmet smoking a pipe and looking dead inside"

>> No.4018704

should I get deco pro or something equivalent from huion?

>> No.4018716

>>4018704
I have an old wacom bamboo tablet, and honestly it serves me like a champ. Unless you do this professionally, it doesn't really matter imo. I heard good things about huion stuff though.

>> No.4018723
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4018723

first time drawing in anime style so this was an exercise in eyes, mouth positioning, face proportions in general.

>> No.4018742

>>4018716
bamboo ftw

i think tracking doesnt change from cheap to expensive.. the only thing that is better is the pressure sensitivity and ive gotten acostomed to the bamboo which is like an on or off switch almost but theres kind of a middle spot too

>> No.4018747

>>4018742
I can do line art with it. Not GOOD lineart, but it works mostly. Until it chokes and dies from abuse, im not even gonna bother changing it. Huion has a cheap one that has tilt recognition but i can live without that.

>> No.4018749

>>4018723
Listen to me, you little shit
Open your eyes and see
Obviously this is shit
Maybe you should practice
I'm telling you the truth
So you'll be better and free

>> No.4018751

>>4018646
Is it cheating if in use arrows in my gestures? They feel helpful to me but rarely see artist's gestures have them so i thought them as a crutch.

>> No.4018755

>>4018751
>arrows

VECTORS BITCH.

>> No.4018849

>>4018747
>tilt recognition
damn must feel good to sit in an ivory tower

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now this is sum next level shit

erasable pens arent rubbed away like a pencil rather the ink turns clear when heated... amazing shit im going to try a laser as the eraser some day

>> No.4018853

I'm fuckin retarded and didnt see the new thread
>>4018835
This is for that trans furry that was drawing the possum, if they're in here now

>> No.4018871

>>4018749
that's some valid criticism there. why don't you contribute to the thread

>> No.4018875

>>4018871
>It's a /beg/gar who talks about his shitty 8 year old scribble seriously and can't accept that people are rightfully calling it shit
Seethe more.

>> No.4018901
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gonna draw

>> No.4018920

>>4018875
>still not contributing to thread
maybe you could specify what to improve
>inb4 "everything"

>> No.4018934

>>4018573
you shouldn't rely on crutches like mirroring, makes it look very uncanny, still pretty good if you've just started

>> No.4018943
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4018943

Well, it's been some time since Adobe revoked my Photoshop CS3 license, but I've finally picked myself up and started to try to learn Krita. I gave GIMP and Sai 2 a go and didn't like either very much, and I'm not really liking Krita overly either but maybe I'll come around.

Here's my first proper attempt at a sketch. Ref was my puppy behind me.

>> No.4018948

>>4018723
eyes and mouth are off center, i think you weren't grinding your construction studies enough
also she has no brow ridge, but if you were going for kawaii uguu style you could have put a dot nose and call it a day
>>4018751
no rules yada yada
you can draw figures in kanjis as long as you can feel the movement of the forms and turn them into dynamic poses
>>4018943
nice doggo, drawing from life is pretty tough, especially if model is not in front of you

>> No.4018949

>>4018943
Cute pupper, keep.doing those lifd drawings anon

>> No.4018950

>>4018948
thanks

>> No.4018963

>>4018949
>>4018948
Thanks. I might stick at it for a while, see if I can work Krita out rather than giving up on it like the others, too

>> No.4019021
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don't draw figures very often, thoughts?

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>> No.4019097
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Wasn't exactly sure what was going on in that back / torso area, gonna practice construction / form.
What does /beg/ think I should focus on?

>>4018510
Measure more and pay attention to angles.
Both legs from knee to toes are at a downward angle, yet in your drawing one of them is actually pointing up.
Her right foot should be horizontally aligned with whats visible of her arm and vertically past her butt, yours is horizontally aligned with her forehead and vertically doesn't make it past her butt.
Don't rely on your preliminary guidelines too much, if something feels off, measure.

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>>4018853
Same anon with some food for thought: when I draw transgirl characters, instead of just drawing a girl with a dick, I try to work from a male base and add onto it to get a more feminine appearance, pic related is my take on that possum girl you were doing with that idea in mind. I'm a shit artist though so sorry if it doesn't show to well

>> No.4019104

hello my gorgeous girlies. I have a regular wacom intuos but I've saved up a bit of money to buy a better tablet, right now I can afford the wacom cintiq 16. Would it be better for me to save up for an iPad Pro or a better wacom edition? I know how to use programmes etc well already not a beginner.

>> No.4019124

is DrawABox good for beginners?

>> No.4019129
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How do u guys like this

>> No.4019148

>>4019021
barrelchest

>> No.4019158
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4019158

Marcellette or "Marcie-chan"

>> No.4019179
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How do I make her look more like a girl. I traced it off myself which is why it looks manly. Shes supposed to be wearing a hakama btw

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>> No.4019218

>>4018521
Color ur lineart, itll make ur stylization easier to digest.

>> No.4019221
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4019221

Crit on the paint and values? Why does it look amateurish?

>> No.4019222

>>4018573
Looks super washed out and the eyes are empty as fuck. Like the other guy said, dont mirror. Fur texture on your lineart is great tho.

>> No.4019232
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I hope I'm not too annoying but I just had to finish this, my conscience wouldn't let me do a new piece. Now I'm free

>> No.4019233

>>4018723
Thats... actually pretty charming. Honestly you could draw manga like this. Now you need to make a side view, 3/4th view, ect, as well as draw rest of the body down. Then angle her in meaningful ways and you have a bonafied original waifu.

>> No.4019242

>>4019097
You concentrated so much on her back but her neck placement is off. Its too far detatched from the spine. The legs are off as well, theres no leg that is closer to the camera to balance her - they both look like the "far away leg".

>> No.4019254
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4019254

I think my eyes are cock-eyed or something. I did this while on break and I came back and noticed all of these things. I think I might be compensating for something with my anatomy. That or the bad structure/shapes leads to bad execution.

Still kinda like it, though.

>> No.4019270

>>4019129
The character's left shoulder might be extended a bit too much, but I have problems with that as well. Okay overall.

>> No.4019279

>>4019233
thanks, I'll try drawing her from different angles and such :-)

>> No.4019284
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>>4019254
your pose are lifeless, a body is constantly tilting, yours are too stiff, look at a spine and try to replicate the flow of the body. you focus too much on parts and not the movement as a whole. dont even look at parts, they're way off the charts.

i quickly doodle the pose you make in my own head.

think more of flow of movements first, then shapes/proportions of body parts, and then characteristics. Anatomy and shit comes later

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>>4019284
fuck sorry anon going way too fast

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>>4018523
>Read the sticky
>"Here you go. Try to copy it to the best of your abilities and don't turn the paper until you are finished."
>Flip picture
Fuck me

>> No.4019303

>>4019287
No probs, and thanks.

>> No.4019310
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4019310

some skull studies

>> No.4019340 [DELETED] 

Where do i even start with learning. This sucks.
>>4017624
>>4017681

>tfw 21
>got a stem degree
>have to start working a real job
>completely miserable
>all my life I wanted to be an animator or story boarder
>never thought i could do it, its a dumb idea blah blah blah
>incredibly pessimistic about my future, feel very unfulfilled and unsatisfied
>horrible at drawing, tried to do loomis, did a bunch of bargue plates in college
>none of that stuck
>try to draw the desk in front of me i see every day from reference
>cant fucking wrap my mind around it or its lines despite just being a rectangle with perspective
>none of it looks good after tons of attempts or even vaguely close
>it gets worse with every attempt
>watch a girl i know who's never drawn before pick up a Pen and draw things from her head that look really cool
>she says she sees me practicing all the time and asks if i want to draw
>i ask for a pencil i cant do pen
>she laughs and insists on the pen
>struggle with trying to draw a cabinet that was in front of me
>get my own pencil out
>she makes a comment i cant hear anymore
>cant even draw something from reference with an eraser
>she can draw from her head in pen without any practice
>the thing I finally produced was a very sloppy loomis fun with a pencil face that i had copied many times

At that point I stopped drawing. I am an NPC. I am not an artist. I never had the spark to be. I have no creativity. I have no brain. I am dust.
The only pangs I feel through the cloud of anhedonia induced depression is the sheer jealousy whenever i see good artwork or animation or sculpture

>tfw im the guy who goes to art museums and looks at beautiful paintings and sighs in sadness and awe

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4019380

I got a this tablet and am I supposed to press directly on the surface with then pen when drawing? I feel like I'm scratching it.

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>>4019380
yes retard but dont press so hard, just firmly stroke it like a normal pen, the pen have different type of tips, there are paper tips that can help you have a paper sketchy feel (but its not like the real thing)

good luck anon

>> No.4019393

>>4019380
You might notice that they're pressure sensitive, use a pressure sensitive support brush in your prefer program. the gentler the smaller the stroke, the stronger the bolder. This is one of the fundi of being professional artists, good use of LINE MARK, and LINE MAKING

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>>4019242
>You concentrated so much on her back but her neck placement is off. Its too far detatched from the spine.
I actually got so bothered by the back I just stopped and lazily hid it behind the hair :P

>The legs are off as well, theres no leg that is closer to the camera to balance her - they both look like the "far away leg".
I don't exactly know what you mean by that.
She's not stepping off into the distance, both legs are supposed to be on the same horizontal level.
If you're talking about weight-distribution I marked what the legs are supposed to communicate.
Also since the right leg is supposed to be the weight-bearing one, the torso is leaning to far left.

>> No.4019397

>>4019380
You get some hairline scratches on the surface and the first pen tip might wear down quick.

>> No.4019411

>>4019395
they probably mean the size of the legs looks like they are faraway from the viewer. The proportion of your lower leg is incredibly small,
like they dont got no calves. perhaps it is a style? hey thighs and calves proportions very different.. the feet makes them even smaller

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attempted to draw kurapika and a male figure , did i make it yet?

>> No.4019427

How the fuck do I do the upside down russian thing?
>get halfway down the drawing
>things are going good
>wait a second nothing lines up at all
>every
>single
>time

Fuck it's pissing me off I've been trying to this all fucking day. In the book theres examples of people who it just works for them.

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4019428

I wanna take this pic further but wanna fix any giant errors in my initial sketch, any tips?

>> No.4019434

>>4019427
Take your time and measure carefully, its ok if you’re twice as slow as him. He’s been doing it for a long time

>> No.4019436
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4019436

>>4019427
you're supposed to do it once and examine it, then move on, later when you improve you go back and do it again. dont perfect the one challange they give you. stop being dense anon

>> No.4019442
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4019442

>>4019428
its that a suit under the robe or hes fuckin naked bout to flash? the left axe thing on the helmet isnt as curved as the other side

also expanse your canvas, i can tell the hand on the right is being confined. redraw that. your robe is fine...? try to remember that the crease focus on the angles between forearm and the arm itself

here's an example of a recent piece im workin on. otherwise go ahead and start outlining

>> No.4019446

>>4019434
>>4019436
Thank you.

The thing is though in the book it has pictures marked "day one" of other peoples progress following her instruction and the upside down picasso is great and not that different at all from the reference. Its just kind of disheartening.

I just need to not compare myself to others then probably.

>> No.4019449

>>4019428
I had a character like this once. The axe bit on the head looks a little flat(2d), but if you're going further with it it should be an easy fix.

>> No.4019452

>>4019411
yeah that makes sense.
In the ref the model is already very THICC, and I have a tendency of exaggerating the thighs.
I can see how the tapering in proportion could give the impression of the legs moving away from the viewer.
thanks bud.

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>>4019452 no problem
>>4019428
>>4019380
>>4019427
>>4019254
anyway
i tried my best to help many anons on this board art wise. i hope you all will continue to make it someday

gnight

>> No.4019506
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>> No.4019510

I’m kind of in a rut I’ve been doing lots of fundies drawing lots of ellipses working on line work and perspective. I will be starting gestures shortly also, I have a problem though at the end of the day I feel like I’ve done nothing but draw boring lines and boxes even though when I compare my old line work and cubes they are much worse. Do you just have to grind through this shit or should I be sprinkling in something else to feel more accomplished about.

>> No.4019528
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4019528

I just got a deleter pen set and the "saji" pen tip is a little bent. Is it supposed to be like this or did I get a bad one?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007THB150/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

>> No.4019549
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4019549

I tried cutting the time per sketch down to 60 seconds and oof, the results weren't pretty. I hardly get anywhere before it's gone.

>> No.4019582

>>4019549
And that's okay - keep practicing and eventually you'll be able to do this kind of work in 30 seconds. It's a process.

>> No.4019605
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4019605

>>4019549
I think you focus too much on the outline of the figure without actually trying to recognize the lines that define movement, usually only 1 or 2 per limb and 1 or 2 for the spine depending on the pose, also you're breaking the flow in a lot of those with conflicting lines

>> No.4019610
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4019610

any tips?

>> No.4019664

>>4019605

Well, the hard part of this is trying to figure out how to find the "lines that define movement", although I have a hard time drawing any lines at all in the time allotted. Gotta keep trying though.

>> No.4019680

>>4018901

best girl, well done

>> No.4019710

>>4019528
The thumbnail looks like Bottomless Pit

>> No.4019729

>>4019221
the shading

>> No.4019750
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4019750

>>4019179
Draw a female body

>> No.4019762
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4019762

Day 3 of reading perspective made easy and doing peter han exercises. Feels like I can't learn anything. I understand the concepts but I can't push it on paper.

Pic related is a drawing I did and also my current feel about my lack of understanding.

>> No.4019766
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4019766

>>4019605

Well, I decided to give it another try and change up what I was doing. Just trying to use the guideline of "less lines" to try to lead me in the right direction since I'm obviously not good at picking them yet. Maybe some of these might be like what you're talking about? It's hard for me to say. But some of them just feel incomplete.

I've had someone tell me I shouldn't disconnect lines, and I feel there's a lot of that here but it's mostly a result of running out of time. I accepted it in pursuit of the other goal.

>> No.4019782

>>4019766

And just for some self-analysis, I can definitely see in the top-right one how the same-direction curves look lame and it has a lot of them. I think I'm starting to avoid them more often, but I also forget it sometimes.

If the figure is wearing long flowing clothes I'm not entirely sure what I should actually be doing. I usually end up picking some lines that look important on the fabric, but other than that I just try to guess where the legs are and probably wing it with their positioning. When it comes to gesture, I'm not sure if it's more important to focus on the figure or somehow find the "motion" of the clothes, whatever that might mean.

I wish I had time to use curves to outline the 3D form more often, I usually only do it because I'm having a hard time conceptualizing how to draw something. Otherwise when I've tried that I end up running out of time before I can draw half the outline. It seems to produce good results when I can do it, but maybe my eye is mistaken.

>> No.4019784
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4019784

i cant draw a symmetrical front view face. is there any way i can retrain my brain for that? i keep creating the same uneven face every time i try.

>> No.4019796

>>4019784
Try turning the drawing upside down and make adjustments.

>> No.4019797

>>4019221
Weak contrast.

>> No.4019799

>>4019528
Probably.

>> No.4019803

>>4019784
Perfect symmetry in a face is uncanny anyways.

>> No.4019810

>>4019762
Consistency is key.
If you feel like giving up, it's because you're actually learning something.

>> No.4019814
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4019814

How do you draw things bigger than your paper?

Made picture to explain what I mean.

Went to a museum yesterday and realized I've only drawn from semi-small PDFs, and my brain went completely blank.

>> No.4019817
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4019817

POSTED IN THE WRONG PLACE, I AM DUMB

>> No.4019818
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4019818

Trying my hand at basic construction, some areas are more detailed than others.

>> No.4019819

>>4019814
http://www.beginnersschool.com/2015/05/04/measuring/

>> No.4019820

>>4019818
Literally what construction.

>> No.4019826

>>4019796
thats what i did but i was hoping for a way where i can minimize doing it in the first place.

the one on the right is the flipped one.

>> No.4019834

>>4019819
Thank you!

>> No.4019842

>>4019820
I'll admit its hard to see but the circles around the hips and shoulders aren't exactly invisible anon, perhaps you should get your eyes checked

>> No.4019847
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>>4019842
>circles around the hips and shoulders
>construction

>> No.4019854
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4019854

doing new techniques using construction so i can finally draw asagi good

>> No.4019862

>>4019847
Then pray tell what are they?

>> No.4019863
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4019863

First attempt at doing some sort of composition. It's supposed to be a guy waiting for the bus in the morning. I tried to keep it simple. Crits are welcome.

>> No.4019871
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4019871

I did this, and some furfag shit too: https://imgur.com/a/7Hkf1gT

>> No.4019874
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4019874

aight i know yall hate furfags but what can i work on

>> No.4019875

>>4019863
Claustrophobic. Check your perspective, and lighting (highlight on the cast shadow side).

>> No.4019876

Anyone else here accidentally became a furfag because they picked up drawing?

>> No.4019880

>>4019874
I personally love curries, but I suck shit at drawing them, keep up the good work anon if you're the same person as >>4019871
If not good luck anyway

>> No.4019883

>>4019880
different person but thanks boss

>> No.4019888

>>4019874
https://design.tutsplus.com/articles/think-with-forms-not-lines-take-your-drawing-to-the-next-level--cms-24486

>> No.4019889

>>4019847
Holy shit, I must change before it's too late, or is it? I'm very motivated so hopefully it isn't

>> No.4019895

>>4019875
Thanks for the crits but what do you mean by "highlight on the cast shadow side"? Isn't the highlight supposed to be on the opposite side of the cast shadow?

>> No.4019910

>>4019895
>Isn't the highlight supposed to be on the opposite side of the cast shadow?
You are right. The cylinders you've made your bus shed out of have an odd shine (highlight) on the same side as the cast shadow, which is throwing me off. I'm unsure in this case.

>> No.4019911

When is it a good time to start looking into learning to draw from imagination?
And what books/courses should I start with?

>> No.4019914

>>4019911
Right now.
>>4019888

>> No.4019916

>>4019911
When you're getting too comfortable with drawing from reference, and vise versa.

>> No.4019932

>>4019863
It is an ok piece for your first try Anon nothing fancy or anything but it works so good job at that..

My question is what kind of feeling/emotion did you try top convey by it? Is the character generating a mood? Is he lonely, bored, annoyed or something else? Does the rest of the image support the this or there is a purposeful clash between the two? Having a beautiful morning but a character that is in a bad mood despite of it? Or having terrible morning but the character is cheerful despite it? Asking such questions from yourself before making the picture can help you with creating a piece with a more interesting message.

The current piece says that to me that it is a shitty morning and the character is in a bad/neutral mood but not too much. Based on the posture and showing his back to the viewer.

Random other suggestion:
Have you watched the "understanding composition" video yet?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8i7OKbWmRM
If not yet then I suggest you do, this is a great starter for a big topic.

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Where do I go for super quick commisions? Like I need money real fast. Preferably yesterday.

>> No.4019955
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4019955

>>4019932
>>4019863
Okay here you go, you could make the composition focus on the character. You did well to have him dress in brighter white and a saturated red color while the rest pf the image is highly de-saturated that is already a good step. I showed on 1) that by adding contrast around him and under him using the sunshine from the morning sun.

I made few quick changes to demonstrate the mood change. On 2) We can turn the painting to have more negative message and mood, while on 3) we can make it a more positive mood with just simple changes.

Did this help?

>> No.4019956
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4019956

Decided to draw a sketch to practice drawing sketches. Yeah. I think the shading looks decent as long as you don't zoom in too far.

>> No.4019957
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4019957

My practice heads seem very off and look flat. Any advice?

>> No.4019962

>>4019956
Lolita Anon, in your past few artworks I have seen you struggle a bit with the shading, you are trying to master the comic book like shading right?

>> No.4019964

>>4019962
I don't know, after shading comes the coloring and there's too many coloring styles. Sometimes I practice manga hatching and sometimes strong ink comic shading.
I just want a shading that will help me color better

>> No.4019966

>>4019957
Your initial head construction looks decent, try constructing the features (nose, mouth, etc.), you may need to scale up your heads to do so.

>> No.4019968

>>4019956
Sloppy.

>> No.4019970

>>4019964
Okay that is great but what is your goal? Do you have specific goal? You past works seem to indicate that you are a bit lost. I may have asked this before Like do you have an artist you wish to study or just the basic comic style of inking? Or an example by another artist on how you imagine a finished piece?
Also do you have a Discord?

>> No.4019991
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4019991

>>4019970
No specific goal you're right, I'm lost. I'll search for something I'd like as a finished piece then
Alright I couldn't keep it under 1000 px, sorry for the wait.
The style depends for each piece.. .but most of the time I want something like this. Top 2 are Shin Megami Tensei but even within the franchise the art changes a lot, but it always keep that polished look.
Bottom one is a random visual novel. I think visual novels have a standarized style and I'd like that too. For example that girl with the brown jacket, I imagine my sketch with that jacket too and the hair also would work like that. Top 2 are finished pieces kinda similar to the ones I try to do.

And yes I made a discord to check for art discords but I didn't use it

>> No.4019995
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4019995

>>4019970
>>4019991
Then there's boku no hero, he kinda colors like american comics and that would be useful, but for illustrations I'd prefer to learn the styles from the other post.
Okay I don't know if I'm answering anything useful but these are all my goals now

>> No.4019999

>>4019956
I applaud you for posting even though your work is shit and cringe as fuck.
Work on proportions, fix those fucking hand and stop chicken scratching.

>> No.4020002 [DELETED] 

>>4019991
>>4019995
Okay add Oathless02#3326 on discord

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>> No.4020005

>>4018677
ty

>> No.4020016

>>4019910
Oh I get it, you're right I guess I just thought it looked good like this.

>>4019932
>>4019955

Wow. First off: thanks a lot for taking the time to do a detailed crit, that helps my motivation to improve a lot!

So if I got it right: my original attempt had a mood too "neutral", not sad but not too cheerful either. To be honest I just tried to convey some sort of calm everyday morning before school where nothing out of the ordinary happens.

My intent was too make the character noticeable but not too much. Maybe I should have added a bit more "life" to the street like you did on 3).

Thanks again! This was really a first attempt to see how bad I could mess up but next time I'll try to add some emotion.

>> No.4020017
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4020017

I tried my best;;;;

>> No.4020019

>>4019762
I feel you. Been going at gesture and lines for a while now and I don't feel like I understand either of them any better.

>> No.4020057

>>4019999
Nu-uh, I said it was a sketch so I'm immune to chicken scratch. And if she opens her hand it'd be as big as her face so it's fine

>> No.4020063

>>4019871
How do you get good lines like that

>> No.4020066

>>4020057
>I said it was a sketch so I'm immune to chicken scratch
>muh style

>> No.4020070

>>4020066

Tbh if you "sketch" finished linework without using a 3d model or something you're some kinda god. Sketchwork always has lines a little rough or rogue lines running around.

>> No.4020072
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4020072

Is this ok?

>> No.4020079

>>4020070
Except your "finished" pieces still look sloppy as fuck.stop making excuses.

>> No.4020081

>>4020004
Yikes.

>> No.4020083

>>4020079
That wasn't me but you're right. Hopefully it goes away with time. The choppy filled colors and pixelated lines and shitty shapes. God why.

>> No.4020091
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4020091

>>4020072
poiuytrewq

>> No.4020097

>>4020091
>>4020072
What is up with the paper grain? This is not normal copy paper is it?

>> No.4020102
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4020102

>>4020097
I drew in this. Other side of paper has grid.

>> No.4020119
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4020119

>>4020072
>>4020091
keep grindin' son

>> No.4020122
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4020122

3 shitty skeletons a bunch of heads and a hastily fleshed body

>> No.4020123

>>4020119
>6th mastrey, drawing naked 2hu lolis
Based!

>> No.4020127

How do I know im ready to move on in figure drawing?

>> No.4020130
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4020130

Someone r8 my hobo drunk Samurai man

>> No.4020131

>>4020119
dumb pic, you should be drawing nude figures far more than you'e drawing costumed figures at first

>> No.4020133
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4020133

I WANT TO MAKE IT

>> No.4020136
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4020136

Did I fuck up?

>> No.4020145

>>4020127
It's never too early to move on, at most you'll face the issue of dealing with too much frustration and moving a step back, which you could always just power through. What you should actually look out for is moving "on" in the wrong direction. Stick to an art book/stay close to the fundamentals and that won't be an issue either.

>> No.4020154

>>4020119
>6th mastery, fuck up the anatomy

>> No.4020159

>>4020154

>what is stylization

>> No.4020163

>>4020154
i am curious, which part is fucked up?

>> No.4020169

>>4020163
>orb knees

>> No.4020178

>>4020163
clavicle too low and not really an s shape, weird concave spot where latissimus dorsal should insert into the upper arm, her top pectoral going over her front deltoid, probably a few more

>> No.4020186

>>4020159
REBERU SIKKSU
SUGOI NEEE
AAAH BOKU NO WAIFU WO KAKU KOTO DEKIRU HOSHII

>> No.4020191

>>4020122
Arms 2 long

>> No.4020200

>>4020186
Advanced cope

>> No.4020209

>>4020200
if you actually believe, ACTUALLY believe that the artist that made that image is GOOD
L M A O
M
A
O

>> No.4020218

>>4020209

To be honest anon, I find it offputting because the heavy handed detailing reaches uncanny valley with anime characters, but it is absolutely 100% stylization and a common one in japan at that.

>> No.4020240

>>4020218
No bro, he is bad. He has no clue what he is talking about and the fact there are people on /ic/ who worship this image makes me mad

>> No.4020242

Resources for learning to draw hands? Something I can use to learn from life/reference first then from imagination?

>> No.4020244

>>4020240

Post work then and show us why your genius eyes see something mine aren't.

>> No.4020250

>>4020242
Andrew Loomis - Drawing the Head and Hands

>> No.4020253

>>4020242
Read "drawing the head & hands" and also practice with your own hands as reference

>> No.4020270
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4020270

YEEEEEAAAAAAAH!!!!!

>> No.4020274
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4020274

doggo

>> No.4020288

>>4020119
Posting this picture should be a banable offense.

>> No.4020300

I know DaB and Dynamic Sketching concentrate on construction but are there any books that focus on this fundamental as well?

>> No.4020305

>>4020136
yes, read the sticky

>> No.4020317

>>4020288
what's wrong with it besides anatomy mistakes in last frame?

>> No.4020328

>>4020081
ty

>> No.4020334
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4020334

skull sketches/studies

>> No.4020339

>>4020242
Bridgman - The Book of a Hundred Hands

>> No.4020342
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4020342

First pose I’v tried to draw from imagination since I started doing studies. How bad is it?

>> No.4020344

>>4020342
Too much symbol drawing on the specifics (tits, facial features, asshole, etc.) makes it look off.

Keep doing those studies, anon! Draw more tits, faces, and assholes.

>> No.4020389
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4020389

Ahem. NAPSTER BAD!

>> No.4020506

>>4020063
what are you talking about, my lines suck

>> No.4020522
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4020522

It took me the whole fucking afternoon to do this and its absolute crap
I want to fucking kill myself. why the fuck is this stupid ass pose so fucking hard

>> No.4020529
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4020529

Tonights efforts.

Was too tired to try push myself out of my comfort zone with a proper attempt at gestures.

Speaking of are the free gesture videos on 'New Masters Academy' on youtube good? I assume they'd be high quality and clear, uncluttered photos, models and poses.

>> No.4020601
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4020601

>>4020529
STOP. DRAWING. FACES. ONLY YOU STUPID FUCKING FAGGOT
STOP DRAWING THE SAME FUCKING ANGLE, CONSTRUCTION IS ENTIRELY USELESS IF YOU DON'T DO SOMETHING ELSE
START DRAWING FULL FIGURES
DO GESTURES
START SHADING AND GIVING VALUES TO YOUR SHITTY ANGLE FACES
UNIRONICALLY NGMI IF YOU KEEP DOING THIS SHITTY FACE ROUTINE
JUST DRAW

>> No.4020603

>>4020601
Pyw

>> No.4020630

>>4020601
based.

/beg listen to this anon pls

>> No.4020655

>>4020522
because you draw from what you see not what you know. go back to learning anatomy and come back

>> No.4020658

>>4020601
you're ngmi ass just jealous

>> No.4020661

>>4019124
People might argue how good it is but at the very least everybody who is just starting out could greatly benefit from lesson 1 imo

>> No.4020690

>>4020334
You don't have enough value range. Go buy some more pencils if you can't go any darker because you won't learn much about shading if you can only draw in two shades.
>>4020342
I'd suggest you to avoid drawing complex poses like this from memory. You'll learn much more if you have something to compare your drawing with. Even the most advanced artists have references that they loosely follow unless they have drawn the same pose thousand times before.
>>4020529
You will improve much more from drawing still life and human made objects than from drawing actual faces at this point. Especially if you're going for an anime style understanding perspective and lightning is much more valuable than knowing face anathomy.

>> No.4020739
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4020739

please critique my gestures, i want to get better but i feel that there's something..wrong with my gestures. is it the lack of form? how would i apply form to it, if that's the case? i didn't understand hampton in that sense
1/2

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2/2

>> No.4020746

>>4020658
Jealous of a broken divided ball and plane machine. Yes I'm so fucking jealous anon I'm literally shaking right now

>> No.4020828

>>4019124
yeah, it has good info for total /beg/s about basic construction and perspective. you'll need something else for any sort of figure drawing though

>> No.4020860
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How do I make a simple portfolio of comic pages that are flatted so I can use them as examples to get paid to do flats? I already know how to do them and how to do them correctly I just dont know where I can get example pages to use.

>> No.4020867

When I try to draw from imagination the proportions go all over the place. I know that some poeple use very manipulable figures to draw poses, and I've considered using reference images to sketch poses then drawing completely different clothing, facial features and hair. Is that a good idea or do I just need to get good at imagining and trasnfering to the paper?

>> No.4020869
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Aaaaaaaaaand last one...

>> No.4020876

>>4020119
>4th mastery has the most appeal
this image is meaningless

>> No.4020884

>>4020867
Drawing from imagination is based mostly on what you already know. And when you're a beginner that is basicly nothing so trying to do that now will not produce anything that looks good, essentially spinning your tires going nowhere fast. Focus on drawing getting really good on drawing what you see first and learn as much as you can doing that - this will give you the knowledge to pull from to draw from imagination.

You can't expect to take a test on a subject you've barely studied at all and expect to ace it.

>I've considered using reference images to sketch poses then drawing completely different clothing, facial features and hair.
Yes, that's what you should be doing because you haven't practiced enough figure drawing yet or know enough about anatomy to make your own poses.

>> No.4020899
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4020899

>>4020655
>pure contour drawing
>bad judge of angles and proportion
>doesn't simplify
>no form
>essentially complete beginner
/beg/s response
>do anatomy :DDDDDDDDD

stop giving advice.

>>4020522
Stop waiting for people to spoonfeed you.
start studying your fundies.
Keep drawing like that but understand that if you're not also studying and doing excercises it's the equivalent of doing the same thing over and over again expecting things to change.

>>4020739
>>4020741
looks like you're just trying to put down as much as possible before the time runs out.
they're very messy and the action is unclear in the majority of them, which is bad because the action is kinda the point.
try to restrain yourself to simple "I" "C" "S" lines.
Focus on the "flow", indicate forms with cross-contour lines where needed.
Think more draw less.
Gesture is a pretty abstract concept so don't beat yourself up if you don't get it right away, my advice would be to have a look at how a bunch of different people approach it. (glenn vilppu, mike mattesi, karl gnass, hell even proko if you want to)

>> No.4020903

>>4020884
Thanks. It's nice to know that I'm not brain damaged, and that my experience is normal. I wasn't quite sure if that would be helping me advance my skill or if it would be too easy of a solution. I'll start assembling a library of reference images and maybe one day I'll have hundreds of reference images in my mind.

>> No.4020916

>>4020122
>shitty
>hastily
Why did you post it if you know it's bad?

>> No.4020926

>>4020899

>pure contour drawing
>bad judge of angles and proportion
>doesn't simplify
>no form
>essentially complete beginner

nigger what? you must've mistaken me for another anon. or am just retarded?

>> No.4020937

>>4020899
thank this anon for actual feedback
>>4020926
all he said is true m8

>> No.4020980

What is your artist name beg? I can't think of mine and some references would help

>> No.4020998
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4020998

I've mostly drawn from refference but I drew this from imagination, it took me way longer to finish then I'd like to admit. any feedback?

>> No.4021006

>>4020980
Just pick something distinct yet easy to remember

>> No.4021007
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4021007

>>4019750
Thanks anon its my dnd character

>> No.4021024

>>4020998
you have a good form of movement with leg and body.
I'm getting that animu vibes from the arm and head tho.
arms too thin and neck is stiff (actually the neck is going all the way down to the clavicle so it distort the overall shape).

It feels like you draw the torso standing upright first and then the legs come after. is that true? (it looks like the torso is not talking so well with legs)
arms position a bit awkward don't know what pose you're trying to do with arms and hands (boxing maybe?)

is your intention to draw animu? (if so, the main goal is to learn fundies first so dont do that)

>> No.4021026

>>4021007
It's especially obvious on the front view but if you want a more femine look you want to really widen up those hips to at least something roughly akin to the shoulder with.

>> No.4021031

>>4021024
I simply haven't really practiced heads yet so everthing gets an animu place holder head for now. and yeah I was thinking kind of a martial arts pose or something, your right that I started with the torso first before I moved into the legs.

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4021033

I drew this knight a while ago. I used a photo of a real suit of armor for reference.

>> No.4021042

One confusing thing I dont get from the guide is how can you tell if you are a beginner or not.

>> No.4021044

>>4021024
Actually I made the arms a good third or so wider and that looks way better already, thanks anon!

>> No.4021093

>>4020739
To me some of your construction shapes look like you plopped them in without any reason, but you strongly follow the spines you're drawing and asd great exageration

>> No.4021094

>>4021093
What I meant by the construction is mainly the belly, rib, and hip relationships, really pay attention and feel yourself and look at yourself in dynamic poses to get a feel for their relationship

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>>4021033
stop shitposting and read the sticky.

>> No.4021099
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4021099

Since I've had comments of focusing too much on contours I decided to go full stick-figure. It feels like I got worse throughout the course of the session, the latter half of the page just looks so stiff to me, sompared to for example row 2-3 which seems comparably passable to my eye. I just wish I could identify what exactly changes.

>> No.4021118
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4021118

>>4018530
What's the most time you should practice in one day before it becomes counterproductive?

>> No.4021121
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4021121

I did a fundies today. Sphere, work scratch paper, mechanical pencil then real pencil, 2019.

Drew a good circle on break and fleshed it out. Admittedly this has about 2 hours of work into it, so I got a little impatient with it. Also light sources in one's head is hard to keep track of.

>> No.4021150

>>4019818
what even is this

>> No.4021157

>>4021118
it depends. you need to take a break every one or 2 hours. sit back and think: am i making progress or am struggle too much. if struggle leave work and come back at a later time. repeat

someone i saw use workrave to give themselves auto break announcement on computer.

if you get mad and not enjoying your work that would be counterproductive. take a break.

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4021189

How do I prevent myself from giving this person in the drawing horse teeth?

>> No.4021204

>>4021189
shade more so it blends and doesnt stand out. you need a focal point you want to focus on the face.
the teeth sticking out because it is too bright. also too much contour on the mouth lips in general.
maybe make eye brighter or object on bg or fg to distract the viewer.

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4021217

What should I work on to make my next character design better?

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4021285

>>4021118
>that mannequin
yikes

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4021287

>>4021285
>those policies
yoinks

>> No.4021317
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4021317

How am I doing /ic/? Been at it for a month now drawing everyday

>> No.4021328
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4021328

I have been trying to work on each body part and how they connect to each other and decided to try and put it all together, is there anything that is overly lacking other than being a flat lanky mess.

>> No.4021330

>>4021099
You need to start doing longer gestures and adding more volume, you're going to get no where with page after page of single line gestures. Start incorporating the movement into volumes. Watch how Glenn Vilppu does 2 min gestures.

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4021331

i'll make sure to do more studies i keep copying what i like too much instead of what i need

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4021341

These are 2 min figures, i dont even know if im doing this gesture drawing correctly
Any advice?

>> No.4021347
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4021347

It is wrong to start drawing just to make money with porn? I mean, I don't seem to put my heart in this stuff since Im only starting this to make mediocre art for people look at it and masturbate.
I can't draw cute girls so I started with a bald man

>> No.4021348

>>4021347
>It is wrong to start drawing just to make money with porn?
yes it's profoundly wrong, when you die all the lewd acts you depicted will be done to you by an infuriated andrew loomis

>> No.4021375

>>4021341
Can barely see shit, captain.

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>> No.4021451

>>4021317
Not a fan of the paper grain. Have you tried smoother paper?

>> No.4021453
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4021453

Just an eternal /beg/gar coming through ;-;

>> No.4021460
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4021460

>>4021453
Do not loose hope Anon, sticking to it will pay off. If you cannot get past drawing wit ha mouse return to traditional media. It offers just as much learning opportunity as digital.

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4021543

I get to this level of detail and then I don't know what to do. It's so frustrating! I think digital painting makes me impatient, i need an exercise to feel as though i can go on :'(

>> No.4021558

>>4018501
That foot looks too small in perspective.

>> No.4021560

>>4021217
The fangs do not make sense

>> No.4021565
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4021565

HOW DO I MAKE DRAWING FUN AGAIN?

Every time something doesn't look right I try to tweak it, then something else doesn't look right, so I have to tweak that too, and never end up finishing anything! When I started drawing a couple years ago I made HEAPS of progress in the first 6 months - then after that I must have lost some ability to let go, or focus, or something, cause i haven't been able to finish things or get anywhere close.

I recognise some of this comes from always copying from references digitally - it's easy to spot angles that are wrong, values that are wrong, etc, and going over and over them again... I can see the trouble I'm in... But yeah, I just want to have fun and be thrilled with what I'm doing again. I know it's possible because it used to be a joy, can any anons help me?


Pic earnestly created to portray how I feel when drawing.

>> No.4021567
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4021567

I can't figure out where I'm going wrong

>> No.4021594

>>4020869
My drawings don't get attention.

>> No.4021597

>>4021594
correct.
your camera sucks
and it's upside down.

your draw + post like you're from /pol/

>> No.4021600

how exactly do you use twitter?
post stuff and wait for people to go to your page?

>> No.4021602

>>4021597
I know. I should have brighten up images. Also it's pain in the ass to transfer doodles to PC.

IDK about that last one.

>> No.4021631
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4021631

how do this look?

>> No.4021636

>>4021631
Stop drawing helmets. Also scans are weird.

>> No.4021644

>>4021636
>Stop drawing helmets.
no why would you tell me that
>Also scans are weird.
hmm it does look scanned but i assure you they are digital. probably from resizing from 5k x 5k to about 250 px each

>> No.4021647

>>4021644
I think he's telling you that because you literally posted the same pic a few days ago

>> No.4021650

>>4021647
yeah and i didnt get any feedback

>> No.4021665

I-is good gesture the key to drawing characters appealingly? Going through Hamptons book and instruction I'm looking at his, relatively, crude gestures and seeing how they could be polished into pure gold.

>> No.4021670

>>4021650
Did you draw more since then?

>> No.4021671

>>4021665
Good gesture with fucked up anatomy beats good anatomy with stiff gesture.

>> No.4021673

>>4021670
the bottom right is new but ive been working on other stuff

>> No.4021678

Wrong way of doing gesture? Seems like a real nebulous subject.

>> No.4021700

new>>4021699

>> No.4021756
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4021756

>>4020860
Anyone?
like this

>> No.4022324

>>4018654
Vector work. Nice. Is this for a decal sticker, or something?

>> No.4023202

How would I go about making paints, and canvas from things I'd find growing around my property?