/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.4018437]

What tier do you fall in, /ic/?

[Anonymous No.4018440]

High tier intermediate

[Anonymous No.4018443]

Low inter.

[Anonymous No.4018444]

>>4018437
Mid tier /beg/

[Anonymous No.4018446]

>>4018437
Close to high tier beginner

[Anonymous No.4018450]

>>4018437
Low tier professional. But you can be a professional at any level above /beg/, you just have to find someone that may need your service

[Anonymous No.4018452]

>>4018437
You were supposed to write descriptions for these so we could answer.

[Anonymous No.4018453]

low tier /beg/

[Anonymous No.4018455]

probably high tier intermediate

[Anonymous No.4018459]

>>4018437
Mid/High tier beg
But that thread is kinda pointless since anons won't post their work

[Anonymous No.4018481]

>>4018437
Can we instead fill these with any art you think fits the categories?
This anon is right >>4018459 . Everyone might as well be professional, since nobody will post their work.

[Anonymous No.4018524]

Mid /beg/

[Anonymous No.4018525]

>>4018437
Its funny how everyone rate himself without posting their work

[Anonymous No.4018538]

>>4018437
Low tier intermediate

[Anonymous No.4018543]

>>4018437
Low tier beg for sure. Have only been drawing for a few weeks.

[Anonymous No.4018546]

>>4018525
personally i dont want to post my art on here because i just don’t want people to stumble upon my art on 4chan of all places. bad for your image. but i agree, the thread is kind of pointless like this.

how about taking op’s template and filling it out with our own requirements? maybe ones that are specific to the type of art you’re doing? i’d think that’s interesting.

[Anonymous No.4018547]

>>4018546
Everyone here is low tier beg. It's that easy.

[Anonymous No.4018549]

High tier professional

[Anonymous No.4018553]

>>4018546
I only care about the low professional threshold. All the other categories are irrelevant

[Anonymous No.4018557]

>>4018549
I agree. You are amazing anon. :)

[Anonymous No.4018566]

>>4018546
>i just don’t want people to stumble upon my art on 4chan of all places.
There are plenty of artists who do requests in art threads and it doesn't impact them in any bad way.
Unless you're a part of some circle where everyone thinks that 4chan is a big bad website for bad people.

[Anonymous No.4018570]

>>4018546
I made a lot of money from 4chan, its your loss

[Anonymous No.4018579]

>>4018566
4chan just has a bad rep. but then again, if someone finds my art on here then they obviously use the site too so there’s no problem. i might post my work eventually if i have something good.

[Anonymous No.4018585]

>>4018437
I feel like I'm med intermediate but I'm not sure where the lines between the tiers would be drawn

[Anonymous No.4018590]

>>4018579
Random art get posted in 4chan,that doesnt mean all those artists are using 4chan

[Anonymous No.4018601]

>>4018437

mid tier proffesional

[Anonymous No.4018610]

>>4018601
Furries are always either low beginners, or very high tier pros.

[Anonymous No.4018625]

>>4018610
this one is a low beginner

[Anonymous No.4018632]

Low-tier beginner.

[Anonymous No.4018651]

>>4018538
mid tier beg

>>4018543
low tier intermediate, sort your taste out tho anon

>>4018585
high tier intermediate, theres some good potential but you lack some brushwork skills to bring things to a finish, and the shape design of the tree in the foreground screams /beg/

[Anonymous No.4018653]

/beg/ low tier

[Anonymous No.4018665]

>>4018653
Line confidence automatically equals at least Intermediate tier.
And bruddah.


>You got that shit.

[Anonymous No.4018673]

>>4018651
>high tier intermediate
Thanks. I do need to work on my brushwork a lot, I've been neglecting painting and only picked it up again this year so I have a long way to go.
>the shape design of the tree in the foreground screams /beg/
Could you elaborate? I've been trying to improve my shape design but it confuses me. What about it looks so bad and how can I make it better?

[Anonymous No.4018689]

>>4018566
I mean... it’s still a porn and gore fest. I checked into another board yesterday and saw that egirl’s corpse photoshopped into memes in seconds.

[Anonymous No.4018697]

>>4018673
Not him, I think the tree is fully fine, but if you want, go out and study irl trees instead of only photographs. There’s a lot more nuance and randomness in the way trees naturally grow. Studying nature is ideal for finding interesting shapes.

[Anonymous No.4018711]

>>4018697
Will do, anon. I've been studying a lot of photos to work on drawing plants lately but you're right, that doesn't provide me with quite the same breadth of knowledge. I'll try to get on some life drawing soon.

[Anonymous No.4018715]

>>4018711
Don’t work yourself too hard, though, okay? Burnout and arm pain are a real bitch. You’re doing great and I’m proud of you.

[Anonymous No.4018766]

>>4018585
Colors are amazing

[Anonymous No.4018771]

>>4018715
Thanks, anon. I worry I'll regress if I stop, but I'm gonna try and pace myself

[Anonymous No.4018776]

>>4018437
high tier /beg/ coming through

[Anonymous No.4018778]

>>4018437
Maybe add some benchmarks

[Anonymous No.4018780]

>>4018437
Not normie but below low tier /beg/.

[Anonymous No.4018789]

Mid tier beginner

[Anonymous No.4018796]

>>4018543
Don't draw with the mirror tool. It makes your shit look unnatural.
It is very very difficult to do character art that is completely vertically symmetrical and doesn't fall deep into uncanny valley

[Anonymous No.4018812]

>>4018437
simple sketch from a while ago . someone judge plz do i have soul or no?

[Anonymous No.4018828]

>>4018812
Dunno, but I do like that mid 2000's pseudo anime cartoon aesthetic you've got going there. You should lean into that more and see where it takes you. Don't neglect your fundies tho.

[Anonymous No.4018834]

Mid tier beg

[Anonymous No.4018839]

>>4018828
thanks, i'm going for that cheesy early/mid 2000s style so i'm glad it looks that way. i definitely need to do some more studies, been doing them for years but the past months have been rough. maybe by next year i can level up to high intermediate or something.

[Anonymous No.4018844]

>>4018538
>low tier intermediate
Hahahahaha

[Anonymous No.4018858]

>>4018812
if you want some more detailed criticism:
the back of her head ends on the top of her ear, maybe it should be a bit lower
her right shoulder is larger than the left one, try to imagine a line where her spine is and to align them (and adjust it to the angle ofc)
that flower on her shirt should follow the shape of her chest, not that big of a deal, but it looks like a flat image on a curved surface.
if that curvature on the right arm was supposed to be her boob, it looks like a man's chest, you should make it lower and with a teardrop shape, even if you want to make it small. If it was supposed to be the curvature of the shirt on the arm then forget what i said.
see if this image makes sense (sorry i did this with the mouse).
But it looks cute, reminds me of smt's pixie

[Anonymous No.4018866]

>>4018437
What the fuck I thought I was the strongest /beg/ on this board.
Are these >>4018776 >>4018834
honestly /beg/? And the second guy even claims he's just mid tier beg. That coloring can't be done by most of the board and hte hatching is god tier, and the background is pretty nice except for maybe the explosion.
My confidence is falling like a brick. So I'm still stuck as a low to mid /beg/. But I'm supposed to be the strongest in the universe wtf

[Anonymous No.4018867]

>>4018858
thanks for the criticism anon! the head and shoulders were kind of a stylistic choice because i like overexaggerating shapes, but i definitely agree that the chest looks a bit too strong/high and the flower doesn't curve with it. i guess i wasn't paying too much attention to details. but that's the kind of thing that'll make you a high level if you can just do them right without paying attention to them i guess!

[Anonymous No.4018870]

>>4018866
a lot of intermediates claim beg to wank themselves

[Anonymous No.4018877]

ITT: begs overestimate wildly overestimate their abilities and think they're "intermediate"

[Anonymous No.4018880]

>>4018437
low beg but i don't care

[Anonymous No.4018884]

>>4018870
>>4018877
So which one is it?

[Anonymous No.4018886]

>>4018870
>>4018877
>begs claim intermediate because of crippling dunning-kruger
>intermediate claim beg to humblebrag
we really do live in a clown world

[Anonymous No.4018889]

>>4018886
its better to be humble than be an autist ngmi that think he's better than he is

[Anonymous No.4018891]

>>4018877
what do you think makes someone intermediate instead of beginner? isn't everyone intermediate at some point? like i've been drawing for 7+ years and i know i have many things to improve upon but simply by having drawn for that long i guess it would be impossible and insincere to call myself a beginner even if i wanted to.

[Anonymous No.4018892]

>>4018889
t. humble bragger

[Anonymous No.4018896]

>>4018880
i think your linework is really good, especially for beg. sketch isnt chicken scratchy and refined lines look pretty confident

[Anonymous No.4018898]

Not making money means you're forever a /beg/inner.

[Anonymous No.4018899]

i like to think that i'm at least intermediate mid tier, but maybe i'm a low tier in denial

[Anonymous No.4018915]

>>4018437
Low /beg/

Where I have been for the past ten years!

[Anonymous No.4018933]

>>4018665
But I don't have the line confidence? I keep getting shitted on /v/ because they hate the way I draw my lines.

[Anonymous No.4018936]

>>4018884
Both. Beginners assume they are better than they are just because drawing just because they've spent a long time polishing several drawings that turned out well and their mothers say that they're good. People who are actually intermediate level who are trying to close the gap in skill between them and their heroes realize how large the gap actually is... and feel like beginners because of it. Or they just say that to humble brag.

>>4018891
Its a nebulous term. But I think an intermediate level artist is solidly practiced and understanding of the fundamentals, can draw most things well from observation perhaps.. but lacks a more complete and innate mastery/knowledge of the fundamentals and technique that allows them to consistently produce artwork that is asked of them or that they want to create without too much extra studying or effort in the way that a professional would.

A beginner however is still learning what the fundamentals actually are, and developing basic drawing skills.

[Anonymous No.4018957]

>>4018933
in my opinion it's really not that bad. obviously there's a lot to improve but i think it definitely shows potential and to me it looks pretty stable

[Anonymous No.4018960]

>>4018776
You're not /beg/ fuck off

[Anonymous No.4018974]

>>4018870
I'm >>4018834 and truth be told I'm really not all that. I just made myself start completing pieces even if it took a turn I didn't like. I've got some good stuff, but if you saw my anatomy work you would definitely say I'm mid beg.

[Anonymous No.4018981]

>>4018933
You're drawthread tier desu. It looks average by 4chan hobbyist standards, make of that as you will

[Anonymous No.4018985]

>>4018776
You're mid tier stop fuckin around

[Anonymous No.4018988]

>>4018899
for sure beg in denial

[Anonymous No.4018990]

High beg/low int I think

[Anonymous No.4018991]

>>4018899
low mid keep trying

[Anonymous No.4018992]

>>4018981
I'm hobbyist/beg level.

[Anonymous No.4018995]

>>4018985
Drawing 3/4 faces is literally beg tier and is absolutely no indication for whether he can draw other stuff. He shows no deep understanding for form or shading. He may as well not know how the rest of the body looks or functions. His colouring is muddy.

[Anonymous No.4018998]

>>4018990
more low/mid int me thinks

[Anonymous No.4019003]

>>4018998
I think I rely on my tools a bit too much to be solidly int. I use a lot of premade patterns.

[Anonymous No.4019004]

>>4018995
yeah was being optimistic, after I posted I thought what if the rest of the body are just stick figures. Oh well try again next time

[Anonymous No.4019010]

>>4019003
You do do that but I was more concern about the line weight of your art, its very fine so it doesn't add weight or dimension to the forms. color choices could be enhance to be more contrasty for my taste. try to limit your color palette anon, you have potential

[Anonymous No.4019013]

>>4018995
Have you looked at /beg/? OP is way ahead of anyone else there, even if OP's bodies were shit he clearly knows a lot more about drawing and coloring than 99% of /beg/

[Anonymous No.4019020]

>>4019010

Here’s something else I did recently if that helps

[Anonymous No.4019025]

>>4018440
PROFESSIONAL low tier

[Anonymous No.4019040]

>>4019025
I would agree if your lines weren’t so rough. Your lines push you down to int

[Anonymous No.4019041]

>>4018437
high tier beg

[Anonymous No.4019042]

>>4018437
Stop shoving your shitty tier lists outside of the general, tipsypaipai.

[Anonymous No.4019048]

>>4019040
I draw for a living. I am a professional by definition.
Low tier is the skill I think I am at in terms of comparing myself to the industry standards or the stuff I look up to.
Also, this is a 2 hours sketch.

Pic attached is a 10+ artwork.

Also, you don't need to rate me. I already did that myself.

[Anonymous No.4019050]

>>4019040
I draw for a living. I am a professional by definition.
Low tier is the skill I think I am at in terms of comparing myself to the industry standards or the stuff I look up to.
Also, this was a 2 hours sketch.

Pic attached is a 10+ hours artwork.

Also, you don't need to rate me. I already did that myself.

[Anonymous No.4019052]

>>4019040
it just looks like a sketch to me. not everything needs to be polished.i think low professional fits, this is the kind of thing horny people on twitter pay lots of cash for.

[Anonymous No.4019056]

>>4018866
Here's MY take on what the tiers should mean, feel free to chime in if you disagree.
I think that attempting to judge someone's tier based on one work is meaningless. Your tier is about your ability to produce work overall, not about the quality of any one work you produce.
To me, the definition of an intermediate is someone who can consistently and confidently create polished original works from imagination*. Yeah there's a lot of wiggle room in that definition, but I don't think I can make it much more precise than that. If you ask an intermediate to draw you X person in Y setting doing Z, they can go do it, and it'll look pretty good at the end. A beginner might be able to do it, but they might also say "I'm not good enough to do that yet" or "uh I can't get the hands in this piece right, let me go do 100 hand studies first and then maybe I'll be better at hands". An intermediate is past all that. They no longer feel the pressure to study and practice every day in order to maintain their precarious skill level. They just, "know how to draw".
A professional (assuming we're not defining "professional" as just "has an art job") is basically the same, just, better at everything. Faster, more technically impressive, more polished, greater range of styles and subjects mastered, all that jazz.
I define the beginner/intermediate line that way because it's the most important shift you'll ever go through in the art learning process, or the process of learning any other complex skill. It's an achievable level, but it'll also take you at least a couple years to get there, so it'll keep you humble and focused if you keep calling yourself a /beg/ that whole time.
*The "from imagination" part probably needs the most clarification. I don't mean literally not looking at any reference material at all, but I also don't mean copying directly from one reference. I just mean, you know, an original work that you came up with.

[Anonymous No.4019057]

>>4019050
inb4 getting crabbed to death
(btw good art, just be careful with colour harmony)

[Anonymous No.4019058]

>>4019050
Still high int

Not pro tier work

Getting paid for your work does not make you a professional in skill

[Anonymous No.4019061]

>>4018585
>>4018651 is giving false advice.
It is proper lighting + temperature you're lacking. values could be better too

[Anonymous No.4019062]

>>4019058
>Getting paid for your work does not make you a professional in skill
I think you're confusing the words professional and proficient

[Anonymous No.4019064]

>>4019020
damn that animu lanky af, the helmet is facing us the viewers but she and the suit is facing 3/4 (need foreshadowing on the ear on the right). The clouds edges are on top of the planet. try to put more shade in the center of character unless theres an outer lightsource besides the planet (we can't tell/see)

something nitpicky is that the strokes around the edge are rounded, but the edge of canvas is squared, be mindful of consistency

Think your line here is better and you do try to make good bg, color is mostly fine for your style (try shading by warmness and not how bright or dark something is) Warm = Redder, Cooler more shade = Turn the color more blue

I would say you're low tier mid good job anon

Ok anon Im done for today I hope you continue to pursue

[Anonymous No.4019066]

>>4019058
it does make him a professional. he even said low tier, obviously theres room for improvement still and personal taste will influence how you rate others art as well.

[Anonymous No.4019074]

>>4019056
Huh nice, I too had that definition of /mid/. As a complete /beg/ I sometimes just tackled an obstacle and it was clear it was beyond my skill to do it. Now I'm still a /beg/ but it rarely happens, though my skill is still trash but I can represent pretty much anything I could get asked by an average person. A /mid/ being someone who just gets asked to do something and has it ready by the end of the day because he didn't need to stop and study, yep that does sound like the biggest step in someone's career. But of course it also needs to look presentable.

[Anonymous No.4019081]

>>4019058
Your crab is showing, anon.

[Anonymous No.4019083]

>>4019058
What standard are you using for pro tier? Got anything similar in style but with Pro skills? I'm not that anon but I feel so small in this world now. I mean that's an illustration you could see being used as a book cover or in videogames or something without batting an eye.

[Anonymous No.4019084]

>>4019061
>It is proper lighting + temperature you're lacking. values could be better too
Could you elaborate? I know I have some issues with keeping light sources consistent, is that what you mean by lighting? With the values, I've been trying to push them so that they have more contrast, but do they not read well?

[Anonymous No.4019085]

>>4019056
>thinking int and pro don't study and practice everyday.
>They just, "know how to draw".

kek

dont go around putting your own definitions of the tier, the tier itself doesnt even have a definition so fuck off faggot

[Anonymous No.4019086]

>>4019057
My lack of color theory knowledge is what most puts me at low tier imo. You are right.

[Anonymous No.4019101]

>>4019040
>you could be pro low tier if your lines weren't so rough
>it's clearly a half assed sketch
>>4019050
>posts clean lines artwork that is miles better than the previous sketch in every aspect
>>4019058
>Still high int

never change, crabs.

[Anonymous No.4019102]

>>4019084
>>4019084
I think anon meant pepe looked too green, i always go with muh fundies More blue in shades more red in light

maybe the river water has too much light because the branch above supposed to cover pepe? It's hard to tell the shape of the tree and where it's going

[Anonymous No.4019107]

>>4019086
>>4019050
Ok, but I want to help. Think about Dominant and submissive roles of colour. Desaturate one to let the other shine. The orange shines in this piece, but you can have the blue atmosphere bleed over the whole image to unify everything.
Keep up the good work.

[Anonymous No.4019110]

>>4019107
I think left looks better though. The piece is clearly going for a poppy-colorful look, desaturating all the blue makes it a lot more dull and boring. I think the difference between these two is a matter of personal preference more than anything.

[Anonymous No.4019115]

>>4019074
>by the end of the day
I wouldn't say "by the end of the day". A pro can easily spend 20+ hours on certain pieces, even something that's in their comfort zone. But yeah, you've got the idea, /mid/ is fundamentally about making the transition from learning to executing.

>>4019085
>thinking pros don't study and practice every day
They mainly "practice" by just doing the work that they want to do, and when they study, it's again focused on learning things that will be useful to their specific work, or maybe they're just learning something for fun, like picking up a new kind of paint. It's not like a beginner who studies and practices for the sake of learning how to draw at all.
I'm a professional computer programmer, so that's where I draw my ideas from about what it's like to learn a complex skill. I just "know how to program". I'm not the world's best programmer, but I do know how to program. That skill is mine, I own it, and I'm not going to lose it barring extreme circumstances. I don't need to practice programming anymore, I just do my work and occasionally study specific things that I need or that interest me. I assume that learnig any other complex skill results in a similar experience.

[Anonymous No.4019116]

>>4019107
This feels like personal preference. I guess that anon is one of those cases where
>Bend the rules for appeal
actually applies, like so many claim for Sakimichan. Right one got too eery and realistic instead of magical cartoony.

[Anonymous No.4019117]

>>4019110
I suppose you are right, I don't tend to go for very saturated pieces. I move towards more earthy colours and keep things a bit more realistic.

[Anonymous No.4019119]

>>4019107
I see what you mean, yes!
I am aware of this background vs focal point saturation duality, but for me it was always really hard to pull off. Same as good values.
I really just need to keep focusing more on colors and improve.
I really appreciate the time you put into this. Thanks.
>>4019110
I agree to an extent, but it's probably mostly because they did a really quick paint over so the contrast between the bg and the characters was lost. I think the best version would be anon's take on it but with just slightly higher overall saturation.

[Anonymous No.4019140]

Low -mid beg at best, started drawing seriously couple of months back though

[Anonymous No.4019224]

>>4018437
Intermediate mid low to beginner high depending on the day

[Anonymous No.4019230]

Honestly don't know. Hopefully I've at least reached mid-intermediate. I've been focused so much on drawing that my rendering has lagged behind, so I don't even have much to show.

[Anonymous No.4019235]

>>4019224
this is the only art I have on this computer, saved from a thread I posted in on my other computer, too lazy to transfer over files, but I made these yesterday for the pyw

[Anonymous No.4019245]

>>4018444
Ditto

[Anonymous No.4019257]

Somewhere intermediate, I feel this is one of my best works so far and I haven't created anything close to it recently. So, I could be somewhere on beg but ya'll can decide where I am.

[Anonymous No.4019259]

>>4019257
Also, mind my pretentious fucking cursive. I'm apologize for making myself out to be a professional faggot for that.

Here's my most recent artwork, tell me where I am.

[Anonymous No.4019261]

>>4019140
Seems like mid high beg

[Anonymous No.4019266]

>>4019061
whilst both are true, it's not false advice, his brushwork is not ideal.

[Anonymous No.4019293]

>>4019050
>highly sexualized
>disneyesque style
>digital

Fucking trash

[Anonymous No.4019312]

>>4018437
i want to say im mid int which seems to be the hardest barrier to break through

[Anonymous No.4019341]

>>4019293

[Anonymous No.4019355]

>>4019341
Did you get the wrong image annon?

[Anonymous No.4019361]

>>4019355
I think that image is pretty on point.

[Anonymous No.4019377]

>>4019361
Oh its crabs. Thought it was gummy bears

[Anonymous No.4019525]

>>4019064
Thanks anon this is really helpful

[Anonymous No.4019564]

>>4019257
>>4019259
Hight tier beg or low tier intermediate. You can climb soon brother.

[Anonymous No.4019642]

High tier pro and Jesus did it take me years of grinding to get there. Many ups and down but I worked through it.

[Anonymous No.4019644]

>>4018437
Honestly I think this is a crappy way to measure anything.

Beginner means you just started drawing and professional means you are earning your money with it. You can earn your money with shitty skills and you can be a hobbyist with amazing quality.

More accurately would be something like
[X] low skill - high skill
[Y] hobbyist - professional

Another thing to consider is the variety of skillsets when it comes to drawing. Concept artists, illustrators and animators might all share certain skillsets, but would you say someone who is able to do a proficient job at his respective field isn't high tier, because he is unable to do another thing? That's really silly. Measuring skill is only possible if you compare works within a confined field or art movement.

Personally I wouldn't know where to put myself in OPs tier list, probably low tier intermediate. Comparing myself to others only ever brought me bad feelings. Don't get me wrong, I have artists I'm inspired by and I aspire to, but I'm done beating myself up over things I feel I should be able to do, even though I have no interest in them. Think me naive, but I'm a believer that every artist is able to find their niché, if they work with an improvment mindset on the things they consider fun.

[Anonymous No.4019654]

>>4019230
Mid beg. Sorry anon

[Anonymous No.4019662]

What tier would this fit into

[Anonymous No.4019695]

>>4019662
Low beg

[Anonymous No.4019699]

>>4019642
How much do you make a month if you don’t mind me asking?

[Anonymous No.4019707]

>>4018437
beg mid

[Anonymous No.4019735]

High beginner / Low Intermediate

[Anonymous No.4019736]

>>4019257
>>4019259
>>4019564
>High Beg
Just say he's an intermediate and leave it at that. I'm feeling bad now. High beg. You just considered this might be high beg. Oh my god. I see years of work here to get to a professional level and some anon on 4chin thought for a second he might be a beginner when he's at the level he could give art lessons and make it.

[Anonymous No.4019745]

>>4018437
me on the left

[Anonymous No.4019761]

>>4019041
are they boyfriends?

[Anonymous No.4019763]

>>4019699
7 grand give or take a grand. That’s including my commissions I do on the side.

[Anonymous No.4019794]

>>4018437
I hate evaluating myself because I end up nitpicking at myself for everything I do regarding drawing. But I still try because it is still a passion, and one day I want to properly depict my imagination down!

I think I'm probably mid-tier beginner at best. Pic related, I made it for my favorite general!

[Anonymous No.4019933]

I'm gonna say mid-tier pro just as an average of skill + industry experience & the kinds of studios I've worked for. I interviewed on-site for a senior concept artist position at Blizzard last year so that has to count for something lol?

[Anonymous No.4019942]

How the hell should I know past "I've only even tried this for a year"

[Anonymous No.4020045]

>>4019642
>>4019763
I would love to see your work.

[Anonymous No.4020060]

>>4019942
That's really great for only a year, Anon!

[Anonymous No.4020062]

>>4020060

Thank you positivity anon.

[Anonymous No.4020064]

>>4019942
beginner high tier.

[Anonymous No.4020075]

>>4020064

Pretty fair, got any advice for what to focus on at that point learning?

[Anonymous No.4020080]

>>4018933
/v/'s full of retards, though. Why listen to them about anything?

[Anonymous No.4020086]

>>4019654
Ah, yep. I figured if I was *wanting* to be mid-int I was probably nowhere near it. That's depressing. Thanks for the appraisal

[Anonymous No.4020089]

Better than 99% of ic tier.

[Anonymous No.4020094]

>>4020089

Pretty low bar.

[Anonymous No.4020114]

>>4020086
Its good for a beginner but the placement of the pelvis is incorrect and looks weird. Intermediates are at least pretty good at figure drawing and anatomy if they mostly draw characters

[Anonymous No.4020172]

>>4019736
The shading is mid beg tier. He's not intermediate.

[Anonymous No.4020174]

>>4018437
I WANT TO MAKE IT TO HIGH TIER PROFESSIONAL

[Anonymous No.4020177]

>lower than intermediate
What's the fucking point

[Anonymous No.4020227]

Mid tier beg I guess, by not having to copy blooks. I started drawing less than 2 months ago.

[Anonymous No.4020241]

>>4020177
>lower than a master
why even bother living at this point ?

[Anonymous No.4020247]

shat this out in 30 minutes the other day, id say low or mid tier int

[Anonymous No.4020256]

I think I'm a high tier beginner. You tell me.

[Anonymous No.4020284]

>>4020247
high tier beg
>>4020227
med tier beg
>>4020174
med tier beg
>>4019942
med tier int
>>4019794
high tier beg
>>4019662
med tier beg
>>4019259
med tier int
>>4019257
med tier int
>>4019235
high beg
>>4019230
low int
>>4019140
low int
>>4019020
>>4018990
low int
>>4018899
high beg
>>4018880
med beg
>>4018866
med beg
>>4018834
med beg
>>4018789
hard to judge without completed drawing, judging from the face I'd say mid-high beg
>>4018653
high beg
>>4018601
based beg
>>4018585
low pro
>>4018543
mid int
>>4018538
med beg

If I missed anybody it's because I am chronically retarded and scrolling through without loosing orientation whilst considering who is who and who is just posting references or whatever can be kind of hard

I would rate myself (pic related)low int as of 2018. Basically haven't improved (or drawn, really) in a year and a half or so.

[Anonymous No.4020296]

>>4020284
It shows in your ratings that you never once made a serious attempt at rendering anything.

[Anonymous No.4020302]

>>4020256
high beg for sure

[Anonymous No.4020316]

>>4020296
true, the only things I've ever coloured at all are super washed out and that's only like 3 drawings in total or something like that.
But do you mean that makes me value it too much because I don't know how to do something simple, or that I value it too little because I don't know how hard it is?

[Anonymous No.4020320]

What tier is this?

[Anonymous No.4020321]

>>4020316
the latter, your ratings for all the colored shit are totally bogus

[Anonymous No.4020329]

>>4018437

What's the diagnosis, doctors? How fucked am I? Beg low or Beg mid?

[Anonymous No.4020336]

>>4020316
Both

[Anonymous No.4020364]

>>4020284
>low intermediate
Ironically you're more similar to the med tier begs you listed.

[Anonymous No.4020386]

>>4020284
>terrible /beg/ level line quality
>extremely rudimentary figure drawing and anatomy
>can barely draw arms
>doesn't even know how to draw legs below the knee
>can't make a fully rendered piece
>"low intermediate"
haha you must be fucking joking. If you fix all these problems then you might be at an intermediate level.

[Anonymous No.4020391]

mid tier beg.

[Anonymous No.4020394]

>>4020284
you forgot me desu >>4018812

[Anonymous No.4020397]

>>4018437
high professional

[Anonymous No.4020398]

>>4018444
Me 3 sadly

[Anonymous No.4020399]

>>4018437
Intermediate High Tier

I need to improve more to start making $

[Anonymous No.4020400]

You should start a skillshare class anon

[Anonymous No.4020405]

>>4020364
>>4020386
it's just that first of all it's extremely hard to rate art, and secondly any given person will probably in their mind rate their own art higher because they probably draw the sort of thing they really like, and if you try to down your own rating then you might look like a faggot trying to flex on legitimately worse people, which is probably worse than coming off than dunning kruger desu.
And that bias you have will probably also make one rate things they like higher and things they don't care about lower.

[Anonymous No.4020417]

low tier pro. all my food funds are from patreon

[Anonymous No.4020426]

>>4020405
Fair. This thread is basically pointless since everyone has different standards for what it means to be good. People who are actually begs have lower standards - that anon may assume that just drawing decent anime/furry characters is what it means to be at a professional level. From my experience the better I've gotten at drawing the higher my standards have gotten.

[VC No.4020432]

>>4019084

Hi anon,
I really like your painting! I would be happy to put you on the edge between intermediate mid tier and high tier. Since you haven't received any answer yet, allow me to give you some feedback.

With regards to hues and values, there are three basic ways to add contrast in an image: hue, saturation and value contrast. In general, it is desirable to have some contrast in an image, to
add points of interest, and make it more lively and interesting. If one or two types of contrast are lacking (for example the image is monochrome, with very limited colours, or very low contrast)
there are the other types to make up for it.

In your image, you have a very limited colour palette: the greens are very dominating in this image, and very close together in hue and saturation. Together with the warm reds, it makes this image
very monotone. It's all very warm. Secondly, all of the colours in the image are quite saturated. Even in the shadowy areas, the saturation is quite high. I personally think your tonal values are
good. It just feels very contrasty overall because of this high saturation.

So what I would suggest is introduce some cooler colours, some soft blues and purples, for example in the darker, shadowy areas. Secondly, reduce the saturation in certain areas, especially
in dark and background areas. finally, if you think it will fit your style, you might consider a little bit of rimlight whenever dealing with wet / shiny surfaces, besdies specular highlights, which
you have already, of course.

[Anonymous No.4020436]

>>4020426
I am that anon if it wasn't easy to glance from the shifted artstyle.
I don't think it's pointless, what's pointless is saying "I am xyz" without posting your work, and rating should be given context by your own work or how you rate other things.
If you get a few different ratings of people doing that, then that should give you atleast an idea.
Standards don't matter because the ratings are relative, biases matter because it will shift ratings. If I shifted every single person up 3 "ranks" it would make no difference (except it would sound kinder).

If there's any standard to assume I think you should judge from the standpoint of a normie consumer which does no art at all.

[Anonymous No.4020441]

>>4020399
You should block out the hair on his scalp more instead of focusing on using a thinner brush to draw individual strands. It'll make the hair look more convincing and natural. Less is more, you can get away with a lot when it comes to hair.

[Anonymous No.4020467]

>>4018437
I think im high int

[Starfazers No.4020470]

>>4020467
Yikes!

[Anonymous No.4020471]

>>4020470
Huh ?

[Anonymous No.4020472]

>>4018444
>>4018437
i too am a mid tier /beg/.
I cant learn things on my own properly and at a quick pace if it seems scary to me. i practiced sparingly these past 3 years and made slow progress

[Anonymous No.4020478]

>>4019084
to expand on what >>4020432 is saying, I think you should also use your values as a way to add contrast. Right now you don't have a proper hierarchy of values going on, the branch on the left is as bright as the character, if you kept the character the brightest spot in the pic, it becomes a stronger focal point.

[VC No.4020488]

>>4019107


I respectfully disagree.

- This is an artwork in a clear cartoony style. Realistic lighting and colours are not key. It's about appeal and visual communication.
- You've removed most the saturation and hue contrast. The background is now a greyish, warm blue that doesn't really make the warm oranges and reds pop.
- What were pleasant warm yellows and reds are now rather cool, making the characters a bit sickly looking.

My suggestion would be to

- keep the classic teal-orange contrast
- reduce the saturation in the background, limiting it to key areas.
- simplify some details

[Anonymous No.4020527]

>>4020488
Anon who did the over paint in the middle here.
I agree. Good job on the overpaint. I believe I funnelled my own theories and aesthetics upon his art too much, whilst yours pushed his style further.

[Anonymous No.4020528]

[Anonymous No.4020538]

>>4020528
Das nice

[VC No.4020539]

>>4019084
>>4020478

In general, I would advice against just posting a greyscale image, with the comment "work on your values."

- how you remove the colours matter. You can't just click 'desaturate' in Photoshop. Visual perception values matter, and won't generally appear correctly
that way.
- though values are very important, it's half-baked advice. Please also include a colour version to show how it looks with the colours fixed, because that's
what the end artwork will be, in colour. The b&w image will not show how the fixed values will work with the colours added again, which influences the
result.

[Anonymous No.4020540]

>>4020467
i would say thats low pro, work on aesthetics tough

[Anonymous No.4020546]

>>4020528
Fucking neato. Any blog?

[Anonymous No.4020600]

>>4020441
Agreed, Thanks.

[Anonymous No.4020636]

various things from imagination, where am i brothers

[Anonymous No.4020643]

>>4020284
Duning Kruger effect is a bitch
You're low beg

[Anonymous No.4020645]

>>4020636
Med beg maybe a tad higher

[Anonymous No.4020657]

[Anonymous No.4020662]

>>4020643
thanks anon, anything i should work on?

[Anonymous No.4020664]

>>4020636
looks like med intermediate to me but could be high depending on color/render/etc skills

[Anonymous No.4020668]

>>4020657
you draw cute shit all the time anon? blog pls

[Anonymous No.4020678]

What tier do I be?

[Anonymous No.4020688]

What tier am I?

[Anonymous No.4020699]

>>4020678
Beg high tier. you understand shapes but the line work is not so confident

[Anonymous No.4020725]

>>4020678
i would say beg mid because its only the upper body and minimal shading so can't judge. face structure is solid except the right one, the eye further away from you supposed to be lower than the eye closer to the viewer.

i drawn something for you in mspaint. the right one might be what you try to do? honestly your right drawing doesn't even need the far away eyelash

[Anonymous No.4020730]

>>4020528
hard to rate your art if you post a character so exaggerated and deformed.
post something more normal.
the lineart skills seem to be there, but I have no idea if you have a good visual library or not.

[Anonymous No.4020736]

>>4020488
Thanks anon. I'll keep all this in mind.

[Anonymous No.4020753]

>>4020636
agree with >>4020664
disagree with >>4020645

definitely not beg at all, some of those drawings look great, it depends on where your other skills are at though.

[Anonymous No.4020757]

>>4018437
This meme would go better with examples where would the marine/ kangaroo fit in?

[Anonymous No.4020767]

>>4020753
Lol what? That is definitely in the beg category stop babying the guy this is not a hug box here.

[Anonymous No.4020769]

>>4020730

[Anonymous No.4020778]

>>4020767
what the hell do you consider beg? are you blind? Forms look good, line weight looks good, expressiveness is good, maybe needs more work on facial construction but otherwise looks better than a beg for sure

[Anonymous No.4020786]

>>4020769
High int/low pro

Med pro depending on your use of background/creative posing and ideas

[Anonymous No.4020788]

>>4020478
>Right now you don't have a proper hierarchy of values going on, the branch on the left is as bright as the character, if you kept the character the brightest spot in the pic, it becomes a stronger focal point.
Hmm, I didn't think of the left branch being that bright. I might adjust it a little now.

>>4020432
Thanks for the detailed critique and paintovers, anon.
I definitely see your point about saturation. I was using lots of really desaturated colors in the past, and was told that having more saturation would make my art more appealing, but I suppose I may have swung a little too far in the opposite direction.
The hue changes you made look nice, I definitely understand what you're doing with them. Not too be too "muh style," but I feel like that's not really the look/mood I want. The look of pic related is more in line with what I wanted to accomplish with the colors, with all the really intense greens. But I'll think over what you said, I just need to let it sit for a while.
Again, thanks for the crit, it is really insightful and I genuinely appreciate it.

[Anonymous No.4020794]

>>4020769
Lol omg that boob is jacked.

[Anonymous No.4020797]

Tier descriptions

Beg- still learning use of shapes, no real knowledge of value or composition. Boring, simple concepts.

Int- solid knowledge of shape, value, and beginning to explore unique design. Not as creative or interesting illustrations as pro. May have pro tier knowledge of technique.

Pro- solid technical knowledge. Few flaws in value, anatomy, and perspective. Shows proficiency in executing unusual concepts with unique layouts and color palettes.

Vague but worka as a baseline

[Anonymous No.4020798]

>>4020786
You are exaggerating.
>>4020769
That anatomy is pretty bonkers and the forms are very flat. It's exactly what I was afraid I would see.

I'd say Intermediate mid tier.

You have appeal, especially in your lineart, but you absolutely need to improve your visual library when it comes to characters.
Use more references and practice gesture.

[Anonymous No.4020801]

>>4020769
The anatomy is atrocious

[Anonymous No.4020817]

>>4020769
I think you're definitely in medium intermediate level i think. Its good - not as bad as crabs are telling you it is. Good line quality, shape design, and anatomy (be careful of exaggerating too much). That left eye is fucked up though so make sure you keep studying portrait drawing and anatomy and you'll be golden my guy.

[Anonymous No.4020832]

>>4020817
Thanks, I appreciate it. I was keeping human anatomy a little foggy due to the monstrous nature behind Hulders in Norse mythology. Here is another Hulder.

[Anonymous No.4020835]

>>4020832
Yikes!

[Anonymous No.4020836]

>>4020725
Low beg.

[Anonymous No.4020837]

>>4020817
I also wanted to point out, I am still a little aware about anatomy and proportions. It is nice to get unfiltered criticism. Thanks again

[Anonymous No.4020843]

>>4018437
Beginner tier like a metronome.

[VC No.4020845]

>>4020788

You're very welcome. And thanks for replying. As I said I really do like your painting, and with this reference image you added, I can definitely see your
point. You have after all the image in your mind, so you have to pick the feedback that you think applies to you. The key is to do things consciously.

[Anonymous No.4020846]

>>4020837
Right, was just warning you to be careful how much you push and exaggerate the anatomy because it can easily become too weird and unnatural looking.
>>4020832
The main issue I see with this one is that the left arm looks noticeably longer than the left and it looks awkward and unnatural. And if the legs are that long you'd probably see the left foot poking out behind the character slightly. Left horn also looks a bit too much longer than the right even when you consider foreshortening.

However everything else looks pretty good in my opinion. Good sense of movement and action, good use of value and shape to suggest the 3d forms of the figure. Perhaps put more effort into building the structure of the knees tho.

[Anonymous No.4020857]

>>4020846
Ayy thanks. I see it now when you pointed it out. Prolly shall focus on construction and anatomy(along with proportions) in the following weeks. :) Thanks.

[Anonymous No.4020924]

high intermediate

[Anonymous No.4020936]

>>4020832
high pro

[Anonymous No.4020958]

>>4020924
Is this your work?

[Anonymous No.4021000]

>>4020832
>>4020769
Blog?

[Anonymous No.4021005]

>>4020769
thats amazing, how did you learn that ?
>in before just loomis

[Anonymous No.4021025]

This is the crabbiest thread I've seen in a while.
>>4018585
>>4019050
Your work is stunning and you don't need those crab labels to classify yourselves. If you make good money off of it - you made it, you're a pro. The one trait I'm missing in many /ic/ artists is originality, it's one anime girl against a flat background after another. But you guys got style, originality, actually something going on in your works and that's what makes you amazing.

[Anonymous No.4021032]

>>4020924
High beg

This has to be bait thought there’s no way you actually think this is high int

[Anonymous No.4021034]

>>4021000
I'd like to share but I am hesitant due to privacy. Sorry

>>4021005
No, no Loomis. Never touched the dude (now that I am looking at the comments, I probably should). Glanced over Vilppu a little for gesture. I mostly observe other artists and skim over tutorials thrown around the web and listen to podcasts.

[Anonymous No.4021037]

>>4021034
what kind of tutorials ?

[Anonymous No.4021041]

>>4018437
low-mid int? idk please crit me

[Anonymous No.4021043]

>>4021037
Dude if you want to draw like him then attempt to do so. That's how you learn how to do it. Literally take your pen, stare at his drawings, and try to imitate the style.

[Anonymous No.4021047]

>>4018437
This is fucking stupid

[Anonymous No.4021051]

>>4021047
deliberately.jpg

[Anonymous No.4021056]

>>4021005
Loomis can help but isn’t really required for everyone. I’m solidly int, and most of my art peers are int/pro and none of us used those. We are much slower to progress but drawing what you like keeps you from burning out and giving it up. It took me about 6 years to reach int but I had fun the whole time and rarely studied. I just copied what I liked and referenced colors from anime and life that I enjoyed. I feel like /ic/ takes themselves too seriously at times. If you desperately want to be the best of the best, then of course you will need intense study. But if you just want casual work, or a hobby you enjoy then don’t have to focus on fundies too much. The knowledge of anatomy, colors,values ect does come with time even if you do not actively study it.

I know this is a bit off topic but just a reminder to everyone: have fun. Enjoy what you do first, and skill will come with time. It is okay to make mistakes and not spend 10 hours correcting them. Sometimes it’s better to just push out what you have, then keep going back to it and fixing it until you hate it.

[Anonymous No.4021076]

>>4021056
i need to make it in 3 years , having fun is overrated when you starve

[Anonymous No.4021095]

>>4021076
then get a real job. if you dont have fun when you draw, dont even draw in the first place. It'll just be another "I dont have passion but I wanna make it one day"

[Anonymous No.4021097]

>>4021076
Art is not a crunch time career choice. If you have 3 years go do an excelerated trade school program

[Anonymous No.4021136]

>>4020699
can confirm. i am not terribly confident in my lines.

[Anonymous No.4021138]

>>4020725
i just didnt want it to be a boring side view so i went maybe 10 degrees to the left.

[Anonymous No.4021145]

low tier

[Anonymous No.4021158]

>>4018437
0 to 9
ROLLING

[Anonymous No.4021159]

>>4021095
>get a real job
Its not easy to find a job when 80% where i live with a degree don’t have a job

[Anonymous No.4021163]

>>4021076
Do drawabox, watts stuff, ctrl and schoolism stuff for 3 years and you will make it , dont listen to those ngmis that takes you 10 years to make a significant progress

[Anonymous No.4021165]

>>4018585
This looks great, what's your blog and what brushes did you use?

[Anonymous No.4021168]

>>4021159
Bullshit. Work in fast food you lazy fuck

[Anonymous No.4021169]

>>4021168

Anon he just described a country/place with like 80% unemployment. He must be from venuzuela or something.

[Anonymous No.4021170]

>>4021168
Send visa and ill work for fastfood you autist

[Anonymous No.4021175]

>>4021169
I live in chad

[Anonymous No.4021184]

>>4018437
low tier beginner :( dont know where to start

[Anonymous No.4021186]

Intermediate mid tier, the perfect middle. Maybe just barely scratching it.

[Anonymous No.4021212]

>>4021186
Is this bait or are does dunning Kruger have you this bad? Beg tier

[Anonymous No.4021255]

This video was originally about guitar but it applies to most people here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7G4JgP8eZk

[Anonymous No.4021261]

>>4021212
>beg tier
he clearly knows what he's doing, i'd say the is low or mid intermediate

[Anonymous No.4021263]

>>4018437
Eternal scrub

[Anonymous No.4021316]

made some criteria

[Anonymous No.4021319]

>>4021316
actually better and more accurate than I expected

[Anonymous No.4021322]

>>4021316
Lol ya you’re not good enough to be doing all that.
Yikes

[Anonymous No.4021325]

>>4021316
Not bad

[Anonymous No.4021327]

>>4021316
>Can finish in <8 hours
>Can finish in <6 hours
>Can finish in <4 hours
Those are some pretty shoddy criteria desu. I can make finished pieces in 4-5 hours and I'm far from pro

[Anonymous No.4021339]

Low to mid Intermediate?

[Anonymous No.4021352]

>>4018437
Ultimate tier

[Anonymous No.4021356]

>>4021316
lol you have no idea what youre talking about. By this logic I'm a mid tier professional

[Anonymous No.4021361]

>>4019050
I think low tier intermediate is accurate. Good job, I've busted a few nuts to your stuff.

[Anonymous No.4021362]

>>4021361
>intermediate
Fuck. I meant to say professional.

[Anonymous No.4021624]

>>4021322
YIKES

>>4021327
I should of said that I meant a detailed/fully rendered piece that's up to professional standards in that time e.g. pic related
>>4021356
good for you

[Anonymous No.4021627]

mid /beg/ on a good day.

>>4018610
I wonder why that happens, its so fucking true.

[Anonymous No.4021629]

>>4021624
high tier pro

[Anonymous No.4021630]

>>4021624
Great use of color

[Anonymous No.4021643]

>>4021165
Thanks, anon. I just use various basic Sai brushes, I don't have any fancy tools.
I have a twitter here for art: https://twitter.com/NessieFynn

[Anonymous No.4021652]

I think I'm low intermediate

[Anonymous No.4021685]

>>4021652
Med beg

[Anonymous No.4021712]

>>4021624
>Implying the artist who did that illustration was able to do it in less than 8 hours, let alone 4.

My sides.

[Anonymous No.4021737]

>>4021316
>I'm getting tired so I'll just write from now on
Translates to I'm not good enough to draw the following examples kek.

[Anonymous No.4021739]

>>4021624
Do you really think the artist that drew this spent less than 8, 6 or even 4 hours on this?
Are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.4021740]

i'm curious as to what others would rank me as.
personally i'd say mid tier beginner at most.
i wish i had more finished work to post but that would require actually painting stuff

[Anonymous No.4021742]

>>4021740
I'd say you are above beginner level. Intermediate low-mid tier imo.

[Anonymous No.4021747]

>>4018437
Intermediate mid tier I hope

[Anonymous No.4021802]

>>4019050
Are you BBC Chan?

[Anonymous No.4021803]

>>4021802
not him but yes that's him definitely.

[VC No.4021808]

>>4021624

The artist of this piece is Jim Murray, and it is almost certainly painted in acrylics. Even if you work on one part of the painting while another part dries, the
simple act of applying the paint will take a few hours, not counting any time spent on mixing colours, stepping back and planning next moves, adding
details, etc.

Yes, a professional artist will be able to work faster than a beginner or intermediate one, because they will be more confident, have an established workflow,
know more shortcuts to save time. But there always is a bottom limit. The act of creating a piece takes time, and the more detail there is, the more time it takes.

it is not linear, like 8h 6h 4h. More realistic would be a curve, with a set bottom limit.

[Anonymous No.4021813]

>>4021808
you're absolutely right, but why are you namefagging?

[Anonymous No.4021818]

Made this. Maybe this can help people judge or what not. Take it with a grain of salt.

[Anonymous No.4021821]

>>4021818
Fucc I have spelling errors. Always gotta see problems when I upload. Just like when I upload my art online >:I

[Anonymous No.4021854]

>>4021747
intermediate beg

[Anonymous No.4021858]

>>4021818
Put more stuff with backgrounds and full scenes instead of just character art. Also put more trad top tier art

[Anonymous No.4021870]

>>4021818
If something like the drawing of the woman in b&w (right to the alien) is your "barely started drawing" tier, I shudded to imagine how you would rate the average just started drawing deviantart poster

[Anonymous No.4021928]

>>4021818
Too many unfinished pieces and people floating in voids

[Anonymous No.4022028]

>>4021740
intermediate low

[Anonymous No.4022043]

>>4019761
nah they're just close friends with no personal space

[Anonymous No.4022072]

>>4021818
found something better

[Anonymous No.4022092]

>>4022072
Cool, Lets choose this. Maybe we can help rate each other. The reason for making a more in depth graph/board/whatever is to help categorise people a bit, perhaps they think too highly of themselves if they don't get proper crits.

[Anonymous No.4022100]

High beg. I admit i have many faults and have a fear of doing the things that I know I must improve on.

I would liken myself to a cheap bar truck. Normies like me, but I think anyone that is competent would see what it is I'm doing, and how in wallowing in shallow water.

[Anonymous No.4022103]

>>4022100
...errr, trick. Not truck.

[Anonymous No.4022187]

>>4022072
there's a reason why this gets posted all the time and barely anyone takes it seriously

[Anonymous No.4022238]

>>4021041
Unless he's supposed to have a severe overbite, his mouth and chin don't line up with the rest of his face. Make sure you're placing your centerline correctly and following it while constructing.

[Anonymous No.4022458]

>>4021818
This is really bad.even if you weren't being a crab you have quality imconsistencies across the board. You have ochako sitting at pro, when it's clearly int, you have the new pokebitch at int when it's clearly beg. You're letting your subjective tastes out too much

[Anonymous No.4022463]

>>4022458
>pokebitch
Bitch needs to put some goddamn shoes on. Girls IRL who walk around barefoot make me want to vomit

[Anonymous No.4022496]

>>4022238
relax, dude just have a stroke

[Anonymous No.4022530]

>>4018437
im feeling confident today: LOW-INT for my comic work (which is where most of my focus will be for a while)

>>4021339
you drew the background as an afterthought and it shows. don't worry though, it's a bad habit nearly all of us weebs have. just recognize it going forward

>>4020924
subu i love your stuff but you GOTTA stop guessing at the anatomy and start referencing some drapery. you worry far too much about your linework

[Anonymous No.4022589]

>>4022530
thanks sugoi, i'm currently trying to git gud at arms and drapery next so this sounds about right

[Anonymous No.4022592]

I think I'm somewhere in beginner low (but almost at beginner medium). Here's a recent cartoon-styled drawing I did.

[Anonymous No.4022604]

>>4022592
Great line work for a beg

It's refreshing to see a beg put effort into nice lines

[Anonymous No.4022618]

>>4022604
Thank you for the compliment! I know I have a long way to go, but its so nice getting a bit of positive feedback. :)

[Anonymous No.4022706]

>>4020488
Holy fuck i didnt even notice the girl being fucked

[Anonymous No.4022920]

>>4021739
>>4021712
>>4021808
I'm glad none of you bothered to look up anything beforehand. It's a reasonable estimate.

>>4021737
feel free to do it yourself

[Anonymous No.4023210]

>>4021316
based on this i'm an inbetween of high tier beg and low tier int.
>fixes mistakes
>can only properly draw specific subject material
>perspective, line weight, gesture

Need to branch out desperately by getting into my fundies so I can draw anything at whatever perspective and posture while seeming on-model and get into compositions. Also grind a ton because I'm slow as molasses.

[Anonymous No.4023383]

>>4022920
Let it go, you are completely wrong about those numbers. End of story.

[Anonymous No.4023470]

>>4023383
Given what evidence, i just posted his own personal statement that he can create high quality artworks in 5 hours, or is it from your own personal crab bank.

[Anonymous No.4023481]

>>4023470
Dude, you linked this fucking pic
>>4021624
With the claim that artworks like this one can be finished within 4 fucking hours.

Even a MUCH MUCH less complex thing, like the second artwork you linked took 5 hours to make.

You obviously can rate somebody's skill by how fast they can produce good content, but those specific numbers that you posted are complete generalized bullshit.

It's time to stop posting, anon.

[Anonymous No.4023558]

>>4023481
No need to get emotional crab-kun, nit-picking over a few hours doesn't devalue the original point. Feel free to keep crying about it though.

[Anonymous No.4023602]

>>4023558
At least you admit that your hour estimates are bullshit. Good on you anon.