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Outsider Art Anonymous Mon Jul 15 22:29:50 2019 No.4017609 [Reply] [Original]

ITT: we discuss and exhibit outsider art and artists.

Here's a definition: art produced by self-taught artists who are not part of the artistic establishment.

Wesley Willis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Rzg51SMhEo

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 15 22:37:22 2019 No.4017616 I love outsider art, OP. I'd rather see some technically bad outsider art than more directionless studies or pretty anime drawing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 15 23:08:15 2019 No.4017651 File: 977 KB, 1400x1400, wes.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4017616 Its great, outsider artists are what normalfag artists strive to be. They are just pretending to be crazy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 09:19:41 2019 No.4018230 >>4017609 would van gogh have been considered outsider art?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 09:58:48 2019 No.4018275 >>4018230 Not really, he was known to the art world in his lifetime.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 09:59:49 2019 No.4018277 >>4017609 That looks like a kid's drawing though. inb4 he says "but it's my style" as an excuse for the shitty coloring

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 10:01:45 2019 No.4018280 File: 49 KB, 491x360, 721-201482715415_540x360.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 10:02:20 2019 No.4018282 File: 275 KB, 1600x1075, west-cumbrian-coastal-terrace-1503571832.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 10:03:22 2019 No.4018283 >>4018278 >>4018280 >>4018282 Percy Kelly

Anonymous Tue Jul 16 10:04:55 2019 No.4018286

>>4017609
What does outsider art even mean in the age of the internet? Are Disney and Dreamworks outsider art? Is Sakimichan outsider art because she's self-employed and doesn't show in galleries? Is someone with 10 Instagram followers outsider art? How many followers would they need to no longer be an outsider?

Anonymous Tue Jul 16 10:09:41 2019 No.4018294

>>4018286
>What does outsider art even mean in the age of the internet?
All of you shut ins on the internet that aren't drinking champagne at the show openings in Soho, basically. More than that, it's a hermetically sealed artist that doesn't slot into a course book on art history. Like Jesus.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 10:27:05 2019 No.4018316 File: 23 KB, 236x365, 64b1b4dded9e6524eb7a820a1eef5f72--austin-osman-spare-stray-cats.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Austin Spare

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 10:36:32 2019 No.4018324 >>4017609 Wesley Willis is extremely based and I will fight anyone who hates on my man. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDFaEBjA7PU

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 10:37:26 2019 No.4018325 File: 270 KB, 768x1024, 4023162734_5c7c251fc6_b.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Edmund Monsiel

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 10:42:24 2019 No.4018331 File: 71 KB, 557x551, 1508598392373.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4017609

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 10:44:33 2019 No.4018333 File: 390 KB, 539x720, lookahead.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4017609 For me, it's Daniel Johnston

Anonymous Tue Jul 16 10:48:58 2019 No.4018341

>>4018286
>What does outsider art even mean
it's an outdated term. applied when people thought art history was going to continue developing movements. thus people outside those movements were called outsiders. except history is dead with instant gratification culture. only memes now and kids making bastard anime or spaceship brownshooters on deviantart.

Anonymous Tue Jul 16 10:49:46 2019 No.4018342
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>Gonzo!
There was a really good one and it's going to take me ages to find them (and you'll b****** so you can do it yourself) but the biography was like " they're really not nice, you wouldn't want to know them" they were locked up for life for being too weird. But you can still buy their art!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 10:50:42 2019 No.4018344 >>4018316 Is that that chaos magic guy

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 10:52:52 2019 No.4018349 >>4018344 The picture of Hunter Thompson or the artist I'm alluding to? I don't know the chaos magic guy. Maybe.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 12:27:38 2019 No.4018472 >>4018349 He wasn't replying to you, mate, check the quoting again. Are you new here or just having an off day?

Anonymous Tue Jul 16 12:41:43 2019 No.4018495
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>>4018472
Oh right

>>4018344
Austin Spare, yes he is associated with black magic and the occult. He would go into trances and felt that he communicated with other worlds and beings. It was a popular pass time in early 1900's London, there's the Theosophical Society, Swami Prabhavananda, it was like The Beatles I suppose. I've handled some of his art and his prices are moderate (there's a lot of it, he isn't in demand ). He does have that whole spooky vibe which is like catnip. Similar almost to Aubrey Beardsley. Decadent. Symbolist as well. There's not much of it about these days.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 12:43:52 2019 No.4018498 >>4017609 I am a self-taught artist who is not part of the artistic establishment. Are you asking me to pmw?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 12:47:58 2019 No.4018505 >>4018498 I wouldn't.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 12:56:04 2019 No.4018516 >>4017609 So this is the absolute state of a ngmi

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 12:56:50 2019 No.4018520 >>4018516 It is sort of last chance saloon, yeah.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 13:05:18 2019 No.4018533 >>4017616 So this is the anti mastery cult jeff watts keeps talking aby

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 13:21:48 2019 No.4018575 >>4018533 Who?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 19:47:44 2019 No.4019239 >>4018277 It was drawn by a very strange man with mental problems who's primarily known for his bizarre music career.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 19:48:47 2019 No.4019241 >>4018278 >>4018280 >>4018282 >>4018283 I see potential.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 19:49:56 2019 No.4019243 >>4018325 That's upsetting.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 19:57:32 2019 No.4019252 File: 575 KB, 1632x2464, untitled-104.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I really love mexican folk art, specifically these terracotta figures is that outsider enough?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 19:59:57 2019 No.4019256 File: 249 KB, 1147x1600, 93fe.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4019252

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 20:03:19 2019 No.4019260 File: 232 KB, 697x1024, f9887943a_b.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4019256 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blanco_family_(Oaxacan_potters)

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 20:04:27 2019 No.4019264 File: 140 KB, 841x1024, 698.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4019260

Anonymous Tue Jul 16 20:06:09 2019 No.4019267

>>4019252
>>4019256
>>4019260

I guess the question is, "What's the difference between folk art and outsider art?"

I personally prefer folk art, since, even though it lacks the technical polish and sophistication of academic art, it has it's own history and traditions of design, color and motif, and usually feels a bit more refined than "outsider" art.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 20:08:05 2019 No.4019271 >>4019267 so, outsider art would be like street artists? graffiti? someone like basquiat before he was recognized?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 20:08:35 2019 No.4019273 File: 372 KB, 700x976, warrug10.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4019260 I love war rugs https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_rugs

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Anonymous Tue Jul 16 20:15:42 2019 No.4019288
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>>4019273
oh these are very cool!
I've decided that if I ever become rich I will fill my house with persian rugs.

Anonymous Tue Jul 16 20:17:27 2019 No.4019289

>>4019271

I guess so? Wait, does graffiti count as folk art? Some of that can be pretty refined, even beautiful, though most of it is ugly crap that ruins our cities...

Basquiat definitely feels like he qualifies, though I always picture outsider art as coming from the boondocks. Like some old man in rural Louisiana painting for no one but himself, using housepaint or whatever he had lying around.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 01:40:15 2019 No.4019704 >>4018325 loved this one

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 02:25:19 2019 No.4019757 >>4019273 This is great

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