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4014930 No.4014930 [Reply] [Original]

I think I am at the point where I don't care about money or fame and the only thing I care is to focus on practicing my fundamentals, study realism and master such style even if I am interested in animu girls.

It seems at this point the only things that matters to me is to practice and grind my fundies, but for some reason I not longer see practice as bad, just feels like doing my reps in a gym, it will take a shit ton of daily effort but eventually with enough practice you can become swole like gigga nigga.

It seems to me right now that my only purpose in life is to start practicing with no other purpose than self improvement.

>> No.4014932

sure i guess
what's your progress like?

>> No.4014934

>>4014932
I've drawn for fun, anime girls and I've gotten to the same skill level most japanese doujinshis has, but I feel like I've not put enough effort because I always though I was doing this for fun.

>> No.4014935

>>4014930
Artists who made it achieve stable job and quit practicing as well as development and growth.

Once you made it you stop working for your skill and continue working just for the money.

Also that's why the artists who aim low (mediocre porn) hit low and stay low forever see Shad and a million others.

>> No.4014939

>>4014934
Most doujins are rather meh, unless we're talking about the masters or the cover illustrations.

80% of doujins is a low effort high volume affair.
So you suck uless you can pump out a page a day or more when sweating.

>> No.4014940

>>4014930
I can understand. I realized that I wasn't contributing anything meaningful and wanted to make something where I could actually put in effort and feel accomplished. Practicing drawing feels a lot like exercising to me now.

>> No.4014942

>>4014939
yeah, I was happy, but I see now my mistakes and I just want to grind my skill to a point where I master realism.

Not because I could get a job or make a patreon, but simply because I could do things like learning to code, learning music and make my dream games.

It seems music and code will be just the same grinding and It seems I need to grind in a smart way if I want real improvement.

>> No.4014946
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4014946

>>4014942
Well I'm kinda in the boat.
I was drawing for three years and feel like i hit the wall.
My goal is still to make great stylised illustrations like the cool guys at pixiv but I feel like i hit the wall and just can't get better.

So I said fuck it and went back to basics grinding the fuck out of Peter Han, Vilppu and Robertson for 3-4 hours every day repeating the chapters rather than jumping over them.

I plan to take my sweet ass time and go through fucking everything from start to finish until I'm good.

>> No.4014949

>>4014930
>with no other purpose than self improvement.

General aspirations of self improvement are admirable, but keep this in mind:

Make sure you're improving at shit that align with your goals. And to do that you need goals independent of "get better at a thing"

Improvement for improvement's sake can become easily misguided. You could become the world's best road-paver but it don't mean shit if you don't want to pave roads for a living. Make sure you're getting good at what YOU want to get good at, not what you perceive as the "right" thing to get good at.

>> No.4014950

>>4014946
my plan is to do it similar to how fit does their gym workouts.
I've been inspired to follow their similar ideas of working out but for art.

So my goal is to focus on a single element, just one and do 100-300 daily reps, first sketch, for a week.
Let's say I do 300 sketches/drawings of the nose for a week.
That should be 2100 drawings in the end, every sketch taking 30 seconds or 1 minute.

Later maybe I'll try to draw them from memory, maybe the last 50 reps of every day will be sketching it from memory all the 250 reps I did on my mind.

I repeat same process, always copying from pinterest photos of every part of the body.
Later I'll do the same for trying to digitally paint the same parts.

My goal is after 5-6 months I'll be able to draw a body with top tier realism.

>>4014949
Not interested in money or fame, just want to get gud.

>> No.4014952

>>4014930
>>4014946
>itt: anons living in a fantasy world where they're much better than they actually are

>> No.4014954

>>4014930
pyw unironically

>> No.4014956

>>4014954
never said I was good.

>> No.4014964

>>4014930
You're on the right track. The best artists in history have typically been the most trained and practiced. There is no such thing as practicing too much, however you have to be constantly reaffirming the purpose of the practice and how it fits into the art you want to make.

Practice should be purposeful and in service to getting you to fulfill your vision - ie you want to paint pictures with multiple costumed characters in dramatic poses then most of your time should be spent learning figure drawing, learning perspective, learning how to draw and render costumes, etc.

>> No.4014974

>>4014930
subject matter is only secondary to how well it's made. ugly people can be drawn beautifully. beautiful people can be drawn ugly.

>> No.4014979

>>4014964
I just want to add ontop of doing your practicing you need to be trying to create your own original artwork and designs in order to apply and reinforce what you're learning. Your axe can never be too sharp (as in your knowledge of fundamentals and technique), but there is such a thing as sharpening your axe and never swinging it putting it to use making your own artwork.

>> No.4015071

>>4014930
lol. just do IT

>> No.4015087

>>4014930
OP in some ways, I'm where you are right now. I'm already making a living out of art but lately I decided to take in less commissions and focus more on grinding fundies, developing my art style and generally putting out better artwork. Just know that no matter what level you are, there will be times when you're unhappy with your work. You will always see room for improvement. And that's actually a good thing.

>> No.4015105

>>4014930
My worst realization was that even if I have found the right mindset for the journey, nobody cares about what I have to say. So in the end I'm just talking to myself. Is there a point in taking up a form of communication when nobody wants to communicate?

>> No.4015115

>>4014930
it's good for now, but if you don't give a fuck about aesthetics it will always show.