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3984267 No.3984267 [Reply] [Original]

What's /ic/'s consensus on who are the best NSFW artists out there?

>> No.3984271

Tarakanovich and AS109

Also Shirow, he isn't objectively great, but his taste compltely matches all of my fetishes and turn ons

>> No.3984272

>>3984267
Not this guy, his vaginas and assholes are repulsive.

>> No.3984277

>>3984267
Porn is not art, therefore those are not artists, therefore your thread is pointless.

>> No.3984280

>>3984277
Here comes the "lemme tell you what art REALLY is" guy.

>> No.3984308
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>> No.3984314

>>3984280
Let him be, he's probably just old.

>> No.3984315

>>3984280
He’s not wrong though

>> No.3984319

>>3984315
Can you prove that?

>> No.3984330
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>>3984277
>>3984315
Even Bouguereau painted NSFW art

>> No.3984332

>>3984330
that's not porn

>> No.3984335
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3984335

>>3984332
Oooh really? That's something special and spiritual because you don't have the balls to rip at classic art, but today that's lewd.

You're just a hypocrite and nothing else.
Art has always been about tits, since the old caman carvings, greek statues and Renaissance paintings, sexuality everywhere.

Sexuality is amongst the strongest and most pleasant emotions people are capable of experiencing and it was always at the very core of human art .

Porn existed before this christian puritanical bullshit, and will exist after.

>> No.3984340

>>3984335
Damn, what's this guy's twitter?

>> No.3984346

Who is on OP pic? Who is the author of this pic? Looks good

>> No.3984347

>>3984330
>can't tell the difference between an erotica and porn
why are you even alive anon ?

>> No.3984353

>>3984347
Distinction is meaningless and arbitrary and made up by the puritanical busybodies who all deserve the rope.

>> No.3984358

>>3984347
It's just a matter of degree in a spectrum. Do you really think Bouguereau didn't know that enticing people's Eros wouldn't give him more money?
>>3984353
Well, they're distinct in a sense, but you're right about their puritanism. There's shit out there in the NSFW world that truly disgusts me, but it's still art.

>> No.3984368

>>3984353
ngmi faggot detected. kys

>> No.3984370

>>3984277
I know you are baiting, but artist in this case is simply another way of saying illustrator or painter.
Stop shitposting on 4chan and go back to drawing.

>> No.3984377

>>3984335
porn pieces are the mcdonald of art.

>> No.3984443

>>3984377
Very successful, yeah.

>> No.3984446

>>3984377
Successful at the cost of integrity, yeah.

>> No.3984451

>>3984346
looks like Calm

>> No.3984453

anyone know why cgpeers deletes calm's tutorials?

only managed to snag 80% of one particular process

>> No.3984457

>>3984267
looks like she lost 300 pounds, that way she sucking on her own skin that easily

>> No.3984465
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>> No.3984469

>>3984277
People who are replying to this don't know the difference between PORN and nudity. I blame disgusting mutt burger culture.

>> No.3984472

Nobody posting the bottom half?

>> No.3984492

>>3984465
NO

>> No.3984556
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>>3984335
1) That still doesn't address why it is what you think it is. (it's not)
2) When I draw a nature morte, I draw fruits & baskets, so wrong again.
3) Some things will outlive us, but that don't make them right nor make them immune to criticism.
>>3984277
It's still art, but just like >>3984377
said, it's part of the lowest of the lowest subjects.
>>3984443
>>3984446
You know what he implied with that statement but just in case you can't figure it out : compared to a 5 star restaurant with fresh food cooked by a renown & skilled chef (Da Vinci, Rembrandt, Jacques Louis David), you're eating garbage & will have health issues if you consume this too often.

>> No.3984572

>>3984556
>you're eating garbage & will have health issues if you consume this too often.
Worst possible comparison that could come only from a crazy person lol.

>> No.3984589
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>>3984335
I'm going to blown you mind away but...
Erotica =/= Pornography

>> No.3984611

ricegnat.

>> No.3984673
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>>3984556
Based

>> No.3984696
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>>3984267

Incase transcends, proves that porn can be ART.

>> No.3984701
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>>3984696
this. incase is pretty amazing. but i also am a big fan of kabuki shigeyuki, poju and i found one just yesterday called Yukimi that i really like.

>> No.3984720

>>3984446
Does integrity pay the bills?

>> No.3984723

>>3984335
Nudity =/= Porn
Why can't you autists understand this.

>> No.3984746

>>3984720
yes

>> No.3984774
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>>3984556
McDonalds actually provides you with everything you need in a diet. Many have actualy done experiments on this topic and the conclusion is pretty much make sure you curn the calories you consume. Bad comparison from someone who has misconceptions.

>> No.3984776
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>>3984774
also topical but i really like when these 19th century artists painted straight shota

>> No.3984778

>>3984556
>food analogy
based

>> No.3984781

So, are porn movies art?

>> No.3984885

>>3984781
When would be something not art? The question is, is it good?

>> No.3984894

>>3984267
This thread proves there's no consensus and there will never be one, thanks OP

>> No.3984896

>>3984267
Shadman

>> No.3985041

My favorite is Tori Maia. It's gay bondage porn. Don't google it if you don't wanna see it.

>> No.3985042

>>3984308
fat fuck

>> No.3985061

>>3985041
Is it because of her content or what? Looks like lackluster early 90s yaoi stuff to me.

>> No.3985071

>>3984335
I am 100% confident that the people who learned how to draw before the invention of photography, just wanted to make lewd shit.

>> No.3985083

>>3984774
McDonalds made drastic reforms under severe pressure from health groups and political activists. Comparing them now to then is like comparing vanillafags to those who peddle these vile fetishes. These payment processors want nothing to do with underaged, bestiality (watered down or otherwise), and nightmarish horrors, and their finally cleaning up their image.

All it does is make the necessity of pressuring payment processors to drop the hammer on the latter's asses, if not outright refusing to serve NSFW artists entirely.

Don't worry. I'm sure when the payment processors drop your asses, I'm sure they'll find their way serving the Israelis and Saudis under Mindgeek.

>> No.3985085

>>3985061
idk, it just does it for me.

>> No.3985117
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What's that site where they post guro and vore commissions? It was posted a while ago and was the first time I saw stuff like that. It was hilarious and intriguing but I cannot seem to remember it or am able to find it. The UI looked like basic HTML and the art was atrocious.
Also OP pic is disgusting, I thought it was one of those faceapp things hahaha. She's biting her face, not her lip.

>> No.3985337
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3985337

Can someone explain this guys popularity to me? I don't think he's bad, but the colors are always very muddy and alot of the anatomy is just alll over the place. Look at the arms here. Why couldn't he take 5 mins to google some arms in this position to make them look more like actual arms and shoulders. They look like long turds. Is it just the anime looking heads and faces that do it for people or what? If i just randomly pick some chick posing and add an anime head to it would more people like it?

>> No.3985348

>>3985337
Most people who fap to hentai don't care about anatomy. He does some pop culture girls from video games and anime, that stuff is recognizable and enjoyed by a lot of people, thus the widespread appeal.

>> No.3985349

>>3985337
Caring about popularity = jealousy
Jealousy = sin/nothing productive
Therefore caring about popularity is a waste of time.
Popularity is less about skill and more about luck/marketing/etc.
Why are you drawing? To be popular? Or are you drawing for yourself? If you care about this guys popularity that means you are judging that it is undeserved. Who are you to say it is undeserved? Are you so high and mighty?
Honestly I wish posts like yours would just die on this board, I have been browsing this board since 2013 or something and this shit has always annoyed me.
TL;DR Just draw.

>> No.3985350

>>3985337
trendhopping works. normies don’t give a shit beyond “look tits and ass!”

>> No.3985353

>>3985337
horny brains cant focus on critical thinking, they see Horny Shaped bodies and clap. This dude really is Mcdonalds in terms of churning out a product as fast as possible with as little effort as possible. also nice WHITE WASHING REEE

>> No.3985370

>>3985337
looks believable enough for normies

>> No.3985379

>>3985337
i think robutts is decent at lighting and color theory, but his gimmick is making 60% of his character tits ass and thighs and his rendering is quite muddy and his faces are usually awful. i think people perceive that aspect to be the same as "painterly" and the fact that he draws those proportions is enough to set him apart since hes the thicc guy

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>>3984701
great stuff, inoue kiyoshirou is another great one with a similar style.

>> No.3985386

>>3985380
yo. name on that comic? trying to find it on the artist's page

>> No.3985394

>>3984277
actually based and artpilled

>> No.3985436

>>3985394
more like baited and ngmi

>> No.3985442

Hews, Norasuko and, of course, Inoue Kiyoshirou

>> No.3985448

>>3984340
underrated

>> No.3985458

>>3985337
>>3985353
Before studying anatomy I wouldn't know something was wrong with it, because I'd just have the overall sensation of "Damn!" But we've seen how the sausage is made now...

>> No.3985479

>>3985337
It's Pokemon. People "Hate" it right now, doesn't stop it from being the hot topic of the world. All Nintendo = rent free. Anything Nintendo = easy money.

>> No.3985558

>>3985442
>Hews, Norasuko and, of course, Inoue Kiyoshirou
>Norasuko
LMAO

>> No.3985632

>>3984277
Have sex.

>> No.3985740
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>>3985337
I think you picked one of CSR's poorer examples just to nitpick the artist.

Frankly, he/she renders pleasing soft bodies with a dynamism not constrained to reality (muh style), and I find the painting style refreshing in a sea of Sakimichan wannabes. It's rough, but CSR has a good sense of lighting and color change to make it visually interesting beyond the subject matter.

>> No.3985744
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>>3984267
>porn
>art

>> No.3985750

>>3984267
My fav at the moment is rockin jellybean.

>> No.3985751

>3985349
Knowing about how one gets popular is very useful if you want to gain money with your art you retarded fucking tripnigger

>> No.3985785

>>3984330
Nudity =/= nsfw/porn

Dumbasses.

>> No.3985786

>>3985386
https://nhentai.net/g/124787/

Page 51

>> No.3985788

>>3985740
I gotta learn how to draw boobs squishy like that.

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>>3984465
Hah

>> No.3985829

>>3985740
Not him but he's right: the guy straight up can not draw. Every one of his drawings is like that, including that one. Really fucked anatomy and perspective (NOT stylized) upon closer inspection but with sort of passable rendering.

This results in good-looking thumbnails, but once you enlarge them, it's ohgodwhy.jpg. This might partially be responsible for his success. You can clearly make out giant rendered tits in the sea of madness that is social media, and that's where the appraisal ends for most non-artists. They don't see beyond the passable rendering and giant T&A, they're on board. That and his volume. The man is a goddamn porn machine.

If you don't care about the drawing quality, then it's relatively easy to slap some color onto a piece and upload on a regular schedule, especially once you find a reliable rendering method. This allows many porn artists to have a high output. But you won't improve this way, if you never slow down to observe. That's fine if that's what you want. I'm not hating on the guy, I think it's great he's making bank and it still takes an iron commitment to produce that sheer volume. But we don't need to defend his drawings.

>> No.3985976

>>3985829
>But you won't improve this way
Bullshit. Spoken like somebody that has no idea what is it like to be an illustrator.

Post your work. I dare you.

>> No.3985988

>>3985788
Imagine that you are touching them, while drawing them.

>> No.3985993
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>>3985976
Of course obligatory "pyw," the call of "I have no argument."
I'm not posting my work after criticizing another artist, especially an e-famous one, I'm not looking for that kind of attention. Just know that I can draw better than fucking CSR. Fuck sake, plenty of people in /alt/, /dad/ and /draw/ can.

Get better art heroes. We're all at different skill levels here but that doesn't mean even a /beg/ has to muck around in feces. Aim high even if you don't think you'll reach it.

I mean you can see my evidence of my point in CSR's very own work. Despite putting out hundreds of finished pieces over a few years his stagnation is as clear as day. Pure volume does not net you gains if you keep repeating the same mistakes. This is true in any area of self improvement, there's working smart and working hard (or merely working a lot in CSR's case). I acknowledged that as an "illustrator" (businessperson), CSR is winning. But business is not art, and his art blows.

Here's an artist who puts out similar subject matter at a good rate (not as absurdly high as CSR), in a similar style, except he can actually draw and render. Does he make as much money? Probably not. But I made it clear I wasn't talking about what qualities make an artist more employable.

>> No.3986004

>>3985993
I said post your work, so that you would prove you know what you are talking about.
I guess I was right. You don't know what you are talking about. You are just an armchair artist.

>> No.3986007

>>3985993
Not gonna lie, I'm mirin that ice cream.

>> No.3986020

>>3986004
Here's an idea: I'm not posting my work, I stand to gain nothing from you approval, I only stand to lose. So how about YOU post your work

Evidently you believe strongly enough in this idea of pure volume as a means of artistic growth to call me out. It seems, then, that you must speak from personal experience to believe so strongly in it. Show me how shitting out LOTS of drawings, without ever taking the time to observe and put care into them, has made you better artist. Educate rather than antagonize me.

>> No.3986021

meesh

>> No.3986025

>>3986021
You >>3986004
are meesh? Is that how I'm meant to interpret that?

>> No.3986027
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>>3986020
One of the last things I drew.

>> No.3986033

>>3986027
Also. I am not saying you don't need an analitic approach if you want to improve. I'm saying
>But you won't improve this way
is complete bullshit. If you draw as much as CSR does, you are bound to improve. No matter how much you analyze your work.

>> No.3986039

>>3986027
Had a different response but you answered my questions here >>3986033

I mean so you're acknowledging an analytic approach is needed. Analysis requires slowing down some to think what you did wrong or might have done better, and making changes. So it kind of seems like you're agreeing with me, except not?

I'm not at all convinced you can just keep rampaging with the same failing strategies and keep getting better. Low tier deviantart artists who've been at it for a decade+ are proof of this. Do you really think CSR has shown meaningful improvement despite all his drawing? Because I sure don't. Stuff looks bad.

>> No.3986045

>>3986039
>Do you really think CSR has shown meaningful improvement despite all his drawing? Because I sure don't. Stuff looks bad.
Oh yeah. I think he improved a ton. I also think he can be hit and miss, but that's something that happens often when you focus on efficiency most of all.
I think he doesn't improve at a faster rate mostly because he draws everything from memory. Artists that use a lot of references or inspiration from other artists have better gains.

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>>3986045
He's shown some improvements in rendering/lighting. His early stuff was very smeary. It's hard for me to say there's genuine gains in the drawing aspect, which I think is the most important. Here's one of his earliest works from the boorus, from about 2 years ago. It's a lot of the same form mistakes. I definitely get the sense that he's doing it all from imagination, and that's kind of my point.

Making anything really good takes time and effort. Taking the time to understand and properly use references may be part of that. The best artists almost invariably put in more time per drawing. Not to say every piece must take agonizingly long but just as a general rule.

So maybe you can improve in small ways just through volume, but I think my original statement more or less holds up. If you really want to get good, it might be at odds with with fast money. But I'm not even saying it's bad to want money and efficiency. Just know what your goal is and how to best reach it.

>> No.3986100

>>3984277
artists have always been about fulfilling desires through paintings. dubs wasted on shitty bait

>> No.3986111

>>3986061
Csr makes a very impressive pic every once in a while and his environment work is pretty passable.

>> No.3986145

>>3984465
this

>> No.3986150

>>3986027
BBC fuck off with this moral shit. If this is you (likely, I've seen your defense posts before) be a bigot elsewhere and do you. Don't be a moralfag, that's sjw tier of faggotry.

>> No.3986177

>>3985786
Thanks anon. you're a good person.

>> No.3986183

>>3986150
I'll keep being a moralfag, and you can keep being an internet edgelord. Be my guest.

>> No.3986188

>>3986111
CSR has an amazing grasp of colors and his backgrounds are fantastic. I'm super envious of that stuff.

>> No.3986215

>>3985786

He draws well but to me his genitalia is fucking gross, it looks like some HR Giger abominations. Not fappable the least for me.

>> No.3986220

>>3985786
>males drawn like inhuman abominations
Why do japs always do this?

>> No.3986285

>>3985740
Be careful - it’s a trap

>> No.3986304

>>3984696
Incase is fucking great but their art style is too disney/tumblr to be considered tasteful art.

>> No.3986380

>>3986188
imo his porn drawings are pretty meh but some of his sfw stuff is great, there was one of a dragon or something that looked sick

>> No.3986453

>>3984267
Japanese people only. Western sucks

>> No.3986483

>>3984774
HOT

>> No.3986490

>>3984267
She looks like she'd bite your dick off given the chance.

>> No.3986515

>>3984267
why do western artists love doing that obnoxious "biting lips" expression, its such a turn off.

>> No.3986517

>>3986490
and thats why i like it

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>>3985750
brother

>> No.3986579

>>3986515
Literally 1900s media had that be the indicator a white woman wanted your dick. Kys newfag.

>> No.3986592

>>3984457
dilate

>> No.3986733

>>3984465
kek...no...just no

>> No.3986748

>>3984776
Me in the middle

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>>3985744
>he doesn't understand that the naked human body and the pathos of sexual intercourse are peak art
>he doesn't understand that porn can be art and it has been in history
>he doesn't get that sex sells
Never gonna make it pal

>> No.3989335

>>3985117
I don't know if you're still reading this thread, but the website you're talking about is called Eka'sPortal. It's an ancient vorefag website from the early 2000's that hosts some of the worst degeneracy imaginable.

>> No.3989346

>>3987101
>>he doesn't get sex
fixed, for the core of the problem.

>> No.3989375
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If i made a fake persona to draw my animu nsfw do you think i could get more money? I was thinking about passing off as a girl who is suck a quirky relatable weeb with autism.

>> No.3989397

>>3989375

Maybe it could give you a short term boost, but keeping up the facade is going to turn into a job in of itself. It's exhausting to pretend to be someone else and keep your character somewhat consistent. You're always going to be mistake away from revealing yourself unless you run a very tight ship. On top of that you're going to get the worst of being a woman online not just the benefits, think of all the thirsty neckbeards that are going to try to contact you. You can't always just not respond either because some of them will be potential customers. It's always going to be a tightrope between being professional but not too cold so you come off as a bitch, while not encouraging their attempts at flirting or roleplaying etc. I'm a guy and I did something similar. It was hell.

>> No.3989465

>>3984267
is that marzia

>> No.3989535

>>3989375
It depends. I did the same thing and maybe got a handful more commissions than I would have otherwise.

>> No.3989545

i actually want to be a nsfw artist instead of "mah wholesome expressive art" is that supposed to be wrong ?

>> No.3989559

>>3984572
>getting this angry because someone bashes your unhealthy addiction
lmao

>> No.3989656

>>3989559
>getting this angry because someone thinks your comparison is dumb
lmao

>> No.3989658

>>3989545
dont take ic seriously they are just coping autists

>> No.3989667

>>3989658
this

>> No.3989706

>>3984701
gonna need the sauce famalam

>> No.3989707

>>3985337
seething

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mine is pic rel

>> No.3989938

>>3984774
jesus when was this made

>> No.3989973

>>3984267
ShindoL

>> No.3990245

>>3989706
You are lucky I like to help dumb people.
The artist is Yukimi, like that anon said.

>> No.3990271

Personalami, Veralde, Krysdecker, Fainxel, ke-ta, kantoku, calm
These are few of my favourites, some are objectively good all around and some i just like for a specific reason (they drew my favourite pose/setting/girl type etc etc)
Also, it's been bothering me for a while that furry artists seem to be better at anatomy than many artists not doing fur stuff. Anyone's else been getting that impression?

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>>3984465

>> No.3990417
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eroborus

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>>3985750
Dude is on a totally different level than what's discussed in the rest of this thread.

>> No.3990601

>>3990589
Soulless

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>>3990589

>> No.3990769

>>3984696
Are you high? He's (?) got one of the ugliest, most generic styles imaginable. It's just a horrific mixture of tumblr, Disney and French shit, with an emphasis on making everything ugly by exaggerating the wrong parts, and making every character look like a androgynous, bulbous hobbit. There's no subtley, there's no character, there's no sensuality. It's just ugly and crude, like something that crawled out of a tranny's gaping cunt wound.

>> No.3990857

>>3990769
Settle down, Shad

>> No.3991635

>>3984308
oh god....oh fuck....hnnnnnnng

>> No.3991636

>>3985380
Does anyone know what happened to the rougher/sketchier comic inoue did about the step siblings that fuck while the parents are off on a trip?

>> No.3991688

I like Henkuma

>> No.3991699

>>3986525
>>3985750
>>3990589
My niggas

>> No.3991804

>>3990589
ROFL

>> No.3993044

>>3984267
Manyakis (aka Mike Inel)
He's animations a incredibly smooth and so are his chracters.

>> No.3993061

>>3993044
he traces over videos that camwhores send him

>> No.3993132

>>3984776
I hope you dopes realize this is an edit...

>> No.3993562

>>3993061
He traces tentacles that incubus camwhores send him too?
Stop coping, retard. Just because you are shit at something it doesn't mean everyone is.

>> No.3993596
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Ladies and gentlemen, Personalami.

>> No.3993601
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krys decker

>> No.3993609
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>>3985337
Messy style is whats atractive and his personal consistent stylistic choices. In general alot of art looks way better in sketching/rough phase than in finished. In fact thats the case with alot anime art in my opinion. Look at fumio, hes very messy, sometimes looks halfway terrible, but still has a loyal following, or namaniku atk is quite rough, but looks fantastic cause he has great fundamentals and his own style. Don't try to make it about "but muh loomis", social popularity and stuff is more complex than picking whois the most skill full.

>> No.3993639

>>3993596
worst sakimi-clone ever?

>> No.3993644

>>3993639
what the fuck is up with the sakimi worship here?
dude literally goes downhill for quite some time now
all his fucking faces look same, and his style has been raped by so many clones, but personalami literally has nothing in common, you want sakimi clones go check ayysap and dandon fuga

>> No.3993647

>>3993644 (me)
actually dandon looks more like mirco cabbia, nvm

>> No.3993652

>>3993639

Not really a sakimi clone, looks more splash art kind of art style

>> No.3993658
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>> No.3993690

>>3984720
If you had integrity, you wouldn't have that many bills to pay

>> No.3993691

>>3984696
Incase is just max level Legoman.

>> No.3993702

>>3984774
>muh calories
Learn biochemistry. Even just a little bit. It's not difficult to understand the full metabolic pathways of macro-nutrients. Your analogy breaks down at even the slightest bit of molecular scrutiny.

>Many have actually done experiments on this topic
Quote your studies. Otherwise, you're talking out your ass.

>make sure you cum the calories you consume
ah, nm, you're only pretending to be retarded

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>>3993691

>> No.3993935

>>3993690
What's the logic here?

>> No.3993966

>>3984267
this comes of as weirdly erotic, anyone have full ver?

>> No.3993974

>>3984330
lemme guess, its pronounced brojer or some other french pronunciation of the word 'booger'.

>> No.3994305

>>3990769
Literally all I see accentuated in his style are the eye brows. They look like fucking fuzzy caterpillars.

>> No.3994482

>>3993966
yes

>> No.3994537

>>3986183
Not that anon your responding to, but how is he being an edgelord for saying an artist is weak in certain areas? Do you feel some obligation to defend other artist that just churn out, good to mediocre porn pieces every week while making over 5k USD on patreon? seriously fuck off with this shit. You don't need to be some sort of master artist to see flaws in others work. Also why the fuck would someone post their work attached to them critiquing a huge artist? That's just asking to be executed in the court of public opinion.

>> No.3994547

>>3984267
I will say they are not artist but they are porn content creators.

Artist will mean they matters and have a say about culture or development of said culture.

Porn content creators just creates porn cater to decadence. In fact, they are the opposite of artist, they degrade and dissolves culture.
They are debaucheries that seek to diminish the core values of a healthy society, values such as family values.

>> No.3994634

What if im creating a big titty OC in various nude poses?
Is it porn automatically as long as the subject is naked or?

>> No.3994649

>>3985829
>EXTREMELY SKILLED AND POPULAR ARTIST IS SHIT BECAUSE I CAN IDENTIFY FLAWS

Every time.

>> No.3994651

>>3994649
He is shit.
When you stop masturbating all the time and learn basic anatomy you will see it too.

>> No.3994656

>>3994651
He has solid backgrounds.
He had great colors and lighting.
He has a solid sense of form.
He is better than you.

Being able to identify anatomy mistakes no one gives a fuck about that you learned about in a 3 months ago while spamming your figure studies thinking that's how you'll improve doesn't change the fact that he's better than you.

>> No.3994659

>>3994651
pyw

>> No.3994674

>>3994656
Backgrounds are muddy and ugly although there went time into them.
Dont make me laugh.
Please dude, learn anatomy.
Nah.

>> No.3994679

>>3994674
PYW

>> No.3994698

>>3994679
Cope

>> No.3994702

>>3994698
Cope with what.
You're the one claiming to be better than a very popular artist to make yourself feel better while refusing to pyw.

>> No.3994789

>>3994537
Anonymity brings out the worst in most people.
>why the fuck would someone post their work attached to them critiquing a huge artist? That's just asking to be executed in the court of public opinion.
And this is proof of it.

I'm defending CSR because I first hand know how hard it is to put out finished art at a constant fast pace. I'm not saying his art is perfect in any way. He's got his flaws. I'm just defending it from comments like "this is shit".
If people call me a moralfag for this, then I'll just call them edgelords in return, just for the sake of keeping it dumb.

>> No.3994792

>>3994547
Artist is just another way of saying illustrator or painter. Don't overthink things.

>> No.3994793

>>3994482
then stay a faggot

>> No.3994800

>>3994793
Just learn how to google... It really isn't hard to find.

https://twitter.com/calmdraws/status/1035622979198177280

>> No.3994806

>>3994547
All right, Hitler, settle down.

>> No.3994809

>>3994547
family values aren't sexy you sicko.

>> No.3994852

>>3984696
>>3984701
>incase
>nothing but traps and bushy pubic hair

GROSS! His craftsmanship is decent enough but his fetishes are revolting.

>> No.3994997

>>3994852
Dickbrains aren't allowed to post their opinions. GTFO.

>> No.3995001

Man I really hate the work of the guy in the op.
His workmanship is fine, but he goes for this grotesque aesthetic that feels more like exaggerated filmed porn than artistic porn.

Something about it just really disgusts me.

>> No.3995011

>>3984267
i used to have his cubebrush leaked in cgpeers, anyone can post his stuff ?

>> No.3995015

>>3984308
>pudgy loli
Big oof from me

>> No.3995028

>>3995015
>loli
>Big oof from me
Good healthy brain. gg.

>> No.3995036

>>3995001
cope cringe

>> No.3995040

>>3995001
>His workmanship is fine
And that's really all that matters. The rest is just your personal opinion not worth sharing.

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>>3994649
>>3994656
>It's good because it's popular!
Did you read anything I said at all? He's popular, yes, but it does not follow that because he's popular, he's "extremely skilled" or that his flaws are minor.
What is "solid" about his backgrounds? Why do several of you keep calling his backgrounds "solid"? Who the fuck pays attention to the background in porn? It's almost like you have so few good things to say about this guy's work that you go to his backgrounds. Which almost always are a blue sky with some clouds, maybe some grass or rocks, very loosely done. Elementary shit.

His colors are basic hue shifting. Get the values in order, and you can just move some sliders around till something looks good. Why are you impressed by this shit?

His form is not solid because, again, his anatomy is garbage and is the worst thing about his art. This is not how a woman with her arms raised looks like. It's CSR's fucked up idea of what a woman with her arms raised looks like. It's not minor, it's gross and unsexy. Everything is way too defined in the armpit area and the forms of the torso are not well defined. All he had to do was look up a reference, maybe practice the pose a few times and it would be vastly better, but that would take time away from the only thing he kinda sorta does acceptably, the rendering.

He isn't better than me, but supposing he is, so what? That doesn't change the fact that he's shit, it just means I am too. No I will not post my work.

Get some fucking standards. There are actually great porn artists out there, some of whom are very popular. Some of them like brekkist don't even have the most correct anatomy but are stylish and know how to do good design. I don't trash these guys' art. Only CSR's, and mediocrity like him. Think about why that might be.

>> No.3995056

>>3995053
classic crab with dunning kruger syndrome

>> No.3995058

>>3995053
>He isn't better than me, but supposing he is, so what? That doesn't change the fact that he's shit, it just means I am too. No I will not post my work.
Just tells that you are full of shit. End of story.

>> No.3995064

>>3995058
>>3995056
Ignorance truly is bliss, as they say. I hope with time you guys get good enough at this to see what I'm seeing.

>> No.3995076

>>3995064
I draw porn for a living and I'm probably seeing way beyond what you are seeing.
I see the process involved and the bigger picture, not just the flawed anatomy you like to throw at us.

>> No.3995083

>>3995053
>form is bad because anatomy is bad
Retard revealed.
These are totally different things you fucking dumb ass.

If you draw a monster made of muscles that don't exist your form can be perfect, and like wise you can draw a perfectly accurate human with dogshit form.

>> No.3995093

>>3995064
i would ask you to post your work but we all know you are a /beg/ fag ngmi

>> No.3995098

>>3995076
Can I be sincere with you for a moment then? To be honest I didn't want to wake up today just bitch anybody out, but your post kinda rubbed me the wrong way. I won't defend how I sperged out though.
I care a lot about the drawing and the design of a piece. Much more than the rendering, colors, etc. It's the first thing I ever notice in any artist's work and is largely what determines whether or not I like that artist. And I really believe CSR doesn't prioritize drawing and design. Just because it's porn doesn't mean you have to be lazy about those things. But often those are the hardest and most time consuming factors, and people who just wanna nut might not care about them. So it may be profitable (financially) to neglect the stuff that really matters from an art standpoint. That's all I was saying.
This doesn't mean what's he's doing is worthless, obviously a lot of people enjoy his stuff. But I don't think it's well drawn or good porn art.

>>3995083
You're (technically) right. Guess that makes me a retard and my entire argument null. Discussion on /ic/.

>>3995093
Once again, I'm not doing that. Think what you like.

>> No.3995101

>>3995053
people who are actualy professional tier dont ramble about other artist's minor anatomic inaccuracies this way

either you are ranting because you are on a period rage and dont want to associate your work with foolish posts like this or just an other figure grinding dk

>> No.3995107

>>3995098
It makes you a retard and your entire argument null because you don't even understand the basics of what you're trying to talk about. You're peak dunning krueger.

>> No.3995112

>>3995101
Yeah they do. Artists comes in all varieties, weird that you' generalize that way. His stuff is gross to me, all I did was describe why, idk what more you want me to say. I never said I was making professional money, you don't have to keep trying to shame me for not being popular, I've more or less admitted that several times.

>>3995107
You sound like you just discovered Proko videos for the first time. Actual real people don't use the most technically correct terminology 100% of the time. I bet you'd call a botanist a buffoon for calling a tomato a vegetable in casual conversation.

>> No.3995116

>>3995053
>>3995056
>>3995058
>>3995064
>>3995076
Some parts of his anatomy need refinement, sure, but he's delivering a good enough product and he has a above average eye for color and rendering. His backgrounds fulfill the purpose of giving context to the figure, they could be better but they're not dogshit. You all are partially right.

>> No.3995143

>>3995053
Damn, shes hot, thanks for posting anon.

>> No.3995167

>>3995101
>minor anatomic inaccuracies

Having a fundamental lack of anatomical knowledge is not something I'd call minor.

>> No.3995176

>>3995167
Dont think you know what 'fundamental' means. Are you sure you're not just unjustly overly angry at the artist for personal headcanon fantasies?

>> No.3995184

>>3995176

>pointing out that an artist is poor at anatomy means youre angry

lol ok

>> No.3995196

>>3995184
Theres a difference at pointing a personal peculiarity of the artist and claiming the 'fundamental lack of anatomical knowledge'. You're clearly upset he's the flavour of the month while having flaws and not particularly skill intensive execution. I know you better than you do, its amazing.

>> No.3995207

Does anyone have the hentai artist tier list

>> No.3995221

>>3995112
X is good
>no, his x is bad because y is bad
X and y are not related
>I WAS JUST USING THE WORDS X AND Y INTERCHANGABLY CASUALLY

retard.

>> No.3995243

>>3995098
you proved my point, keep thinking you understand anatomy ngmi

>> No.3995408

>>3995053
>He isn't better than me, but supposing he is, so what? That doesn't change the fact that he's shit, it just means I am too.
Holy shit based. Best post IIT. Whiteknights BTFO.

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>>3984267
Mentaiko, RED, Szadek and Zariya Ranmaru are my favorite ones.

>> No.3995537

>>3985337
>the colors are always very muddy
Don't be racist, it's just a nigger

>> No.3995562

>>3995428
y they all gay

>> No.3995612

>>3985337
I didn't notice that those are looks freaky

>> No.3995620

>>3995562
Not him, but I'm a huge barafag and those artists also make my dick diamonds. Their rendering of muscular dudes is god tier.

>> No.3995637

>>3995562
Well I'm gay anon what did you expect?

>> No.3995642

>>3993690
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_R5pXKx1X4
yes

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Does anyone know how much cutesexyrobutts prices his commissions?

>> No.3995883

>>3995665
Seconding this. I rarely commission artists but I'd definitely like to get something from him. I wonder if he charges extra for a second character/blank self-insert?

>> No.3995918

>>3994702
not him but why would anyone post his work and identify himself after talking down someone else LMAO
people like 4ch and it's anonymity for a reason you know

>> No.3995927

>>3995053
I dont care about this guy but
>Everything is way too defined in the armpit area
and? you know armpit is a fetish, he is right to over define that area who's one of the focus in his piece

>> No.3995928

>>3995665
Those eyes are lopsided, it's a shame the face itself is nice for him

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>>3995143
>Damn, shes hot, thanks for posting anon.

>> No.3996094

>>3995928
Those eyes look perfectly fine lol. Do a redline.

>> No.3996097

>>3995918
Yeah, so that they can be assholes without any consequences and without having to prove any of their claims to be true.

>> No.3996759

>>3996094
It's the highlight. it makes her looks cross-eyed

>> No.3997309

>>3984696
Incase is horrible

Literally everything he draws looks like a log of constipated dogshit

>> No.3997650

>>3997309
Haha, so jelly. I love it.

>> No.3998055

>>3997650
Hi, incase

Your "art" is very ugly, plz delete

>> No.3998212

>>3984774
thats hot

>> No.3998488

>>3984465
YOU ARE NOT WELCOME HERE

>> No.3998524

In no particular order, a list of good porn artists.
BBCchan, Incase, Houtengeki, As109, pianiishimo, Ban, Nat the Lich, Potionaholic (bad subject matter though usually.) Cyancapsule, Nukomasu

>> No.3998604

>>3998524
Good taste.

>> No.3998618

>>3989938
late 1800s

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https://exhentai.org/?f_search=artist%3Ajun%24+eng

Jun's okay

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in a historical sense, Norman Lindsay is great

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>>3984469
What is this the Paris salon?

>> No.3999291

>>3998524
Thanks for the list.

>> No.3999322

>>3995428
Who's RED?

>> No.4000596

>>3998055
how about you learn to draw instead. and then you can be more popular than incase.

things that will never gonna happen.

>> No.4000696

>>3984271
>AS109
Fantastic art, utterly vile taste. Probably became an artist specifically because no existing artist has the awful preferences he does. What a shame.

>> No.4000741

>>3985993
>https://nhentai.net/g/124787/
yea this is good no doubt

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>>3999322
Amazing bara artist
redgart on twitter

>> No.4002215

>>4000819
Oh I know him from his SFW accounts, like his stuff

>> No.4002295

>>3994852
you sounded like a facebook mom with that "GROSS!" kek

>> No.4002408

>>3995665
anon is right, his thumbnails are much better than the full thing.

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>>3984267
Fractal Underground Studio

>> No.4002481

>>4002432
Hello, FBI? This post right here please

>> No.4002495

>>3984696
good thing that this, like any other market is full of normienigger degenerates like you
it means that gems can shine out the rest and rise

>> No.4002499

>>3993601
>photobashing porn
AHAHA THIS THE GREATEST SHIT OMFG

>> No.4002718

>>3993609
Yes, this.

When it comes to anime art, personally it feels off when the artist is simply too clean, sure there are some fantastic artists who can pull off a clean look but generally the messier works always seem a little bit more appealing. Maybe because reality isn't an image of perfection and it throws off our brain mentally or what--have-you

Anyway, enough rambling, I'm gonna go back to drawing some freaks of nature

>> No.4002750

>>3985337
>Can someone explain this guys popularity to me?
It's simple. Most people are fucking retards and have shit taste

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>>4002432

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>>3985750
ayyyy based, got an artbook from him a few days ago
no scanner sadly

>> No.4003086

>>3984465
Memes aside could somebody explain to me the actual problems with Shads' art?
The most I've ever heard are some vague claims of bad anatomy without explanation.

>> No.4003088

>>3984267
porn isn't art it's a job so you can't really call them artists
Since it's a job the best would probably be the one who makes the most since he is the best at it, marketing and selling his product
so probably sakimichan

>> No.4003102

>>4003088
>"Art" is only the super special thing I personally define it as

>> No.4003146

>>4003088
No, no anon. I am against nsfw art too but you're completely wrong : some of the best paintings of mankind were commissions (The church,the king,etc asked the artist to do it for money).
Its still rubbish, but it's still (low subject) art.

>> No.4003422

>>4002215
What is his SFW account?

>> No.4003761

>>4003422
https://www.instagram.com/absolumterror/
https://twitter.com/absolumt

>> No.4004003

>>4003086
thats pretty much it i think. people around here are just seething with jealousy at his success.
personally despite his lacking technical skill, i find his willingness to draw whatever the fuck he wants to be refreshing

>> No.4006920

>>3995983
You feeling ok anon? You seem to be drooling and replying to me with no reply.