/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.3982016]

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the /draw/thread with our fundamental exercises.

Previous thread: >>3978104

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, or you literally are never going to make it

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS:
1)
>screenshot the image and post that instead
2)
>change camera capture settings to something smaller
3)
>send to computer and resize in MSPaint

READ THE STICKY if you need guidance when you haven't even started.

Sticky: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

TRY TO GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK - many studies are left unreplied, which is a bit sad and can be quite demotivating for the people that try their best to improve, but are left directionless.

You can do it anon, I believe in you

[Anonymous No.3982045]

Lol you know what....I know it’s wrong but....I don’t totally hate the OP image lol. Ever see beg stuff with glaring issues yet you find it appealing for some odd reason?

[Anonymous No.3982065]

Is this knee ok

[Anonymous No.3982069]

>>3982065
ye

[Anonymous No.3982081]

I've tried various methods and none of them have worked. I'm never going to improve. I'm never going to be good at anything and I might as well kill myself now.

[Anonymous No.3982082]

>>3982081
Keep practicing, anon.

[Anonymous No.3982083]

How long do I have to practice/how many books do I have to read and work through before I can actually draw stuff I want to draw?
Being bad sucks.

[Anonymous No.3982085]

Figure drawing question, how does 8 heads feel normal to any of you? I can't help but feel its wrong and stretched, 7 heads looks way better to me, am i doing something wrong? How can loomis pull it off so flawlessly?

[Anonymous No.3982108]

[Anonymous No.3982112]

>>3982085
that's because you're only stretching the legs and not changing the proportions to match the added height

[Anonymous No.3982114]

>>3982085
From what I've seen, women and manlets tend to be closer to 7 or 7.5 heads tall

[Anonymous No.3982134]

[Anonymous No.3982144]

>>3982016
was doing a hunter drawing but wanted to know if i am doing the body fine at least.
how is it?

[Anonymous No.3982163]

is drawabox legit or is it a meme?

[Anonymous No.3982175]

>>3982144
fixed the legs. too long

[Anonymous No.3982177]

I was just wondering: what is your process when drawing? Do you go with gesture->form->anatomy or do you use construction etc.?

I like to just start with a random part of the head (ear, eyes, nose, mouth) and then build anatomy around it. It works fine imo and it saves a lot of time.

Pic related how I study anatomy.
Do you think it's a decent method or is gesture really that important? Does it look stiff?

(In pic related, I study the form and gesture AFTER doing the anatomy. For some reason, i've never really been able to start from gesture...)

[Anonymous No.3982180]

>>3982108
1. Make your brush smaller
2. Do the line exercises first
3. Read perspective made easy (go to the artbook thread for that one)

[Anonymous No.3982183]

>>3982177
I'd like some insight into this as well. I have trouble moving from a gestural drawing to a constructed one. What happens is that all the proportions are fucked in the gesture so I end up with a stiff approximation anyway.

[Anonymous No.3982184]

fixed the legs. how is it now guys

[Anonymous No.3982185]

>>3982180
>Do the line exercises first
which

[Anonymous No.3982186]

>>3982185
>>3982185

Start here
https://drawabox.com/lesson/1/2

The first few exercises are good, the further ones are mostly a meme.

[Anonymous No.3982187]

>>3982186
i will do it alongside with traditional i find it easier that way on paper

[Anonymous No.3982189]

>>3982185
Both. Just practice perspective more

[Anonymous No.3982203]

>>3982177
Cont.

Another anatomy study of a female figure.

[Anonymous No.3982205]

the one on the right was from yesterday

[Anonymous No.3982207]

>>3982205
Work on line quality (Peter Han Dynamic sketching for example)

[Anonymous No.3982212]

>>3982207
is it in pdf format? i usually convert it to jpg which i can put the scanned images in a folder like the anime books are in the mega link so i can have it open with clip studio paint

[Anonymous No.3982225]

When drawing on a stylus, should I draw "freehand" or use the side of my pinky to support my hand? I'm doing the latter and fucking ovals are impossible to do but I have no control with the former.

[Anonymous No.3982228]

>>3982212
The Dynamic Bible is a PDF but Dynamic Sketching is a video course.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgDNDOKnArk

[Anonymous No.3982240]

Is there any real wrong way to do gesture? With so many methods out there, its hard being confident that what I am doing is the right way

[Anonymous No.3982242]

>>3982240
No there isn't.

[Anonymous No.3982261]

What's wrong with my loomis?

[Anonymous No.3982267]

>>3982261
Your faces are too long. The section below the circle on the side of your heads should only be as long as the radius of that circle.

[Anonymous No.3982283]

>>3982177
>>3982203
what the hell, these look amazing
all that talk about gesture and construction is a crutch to make learning process easier and it works for most people but it's not required
if you can draw like this from imagination then you're way above /beg/ and 99% of /ic/
>>3982183
you don't have to follow gesture exactly
if it's too much off then you erase and do the whole thing again, fortunately it takes only 1-2 minutes

[Anonymous No.3982285]

>>3982228
you mean i can't do confident lines all the time? i just gotta take them more slowly, huh. gotta learn how to have shaky hand

[Anonymous No.3982294]

>>3982183
Gesture is not foundational drawing. Too many of you don't understand the point of gesture, it's a way for an artist to SEE gesture, so they can incorporate it into the work, not start a drawing from. Gesture is an exercise for your brain.

[Anonymous No.3982299]

>>3982108
Typically in a room setting with a table, the vanishing point is much further away, so the lines do not converge to that degree. Study your environment and you'll get a better understanding of it. Also don't forget to make those table legs 3d.

[Anonymous No.3982301]

>>3982225
You're overthinking it. Draw in whatever way your hand is comfortable, and you can get the shapes you want. People are not sitting in classrooms with teachers going "NO, YOU CAN'T DRAW WITH YOUR HAND LIKE THAT!"
Drawing from the hand, or the elbow, or the shoulder, or how you hold a pencil, it's all personal choice and what works best FOR YOU. Anyone who tells you differently here is just an autist who can't handle people doing things they don't.

[Anonymous No.3982303]

>>3982184
It's all about the gesture. You need to look at some references of people going down stairs to see how the pose actually looks. Your pose looks strewn together and not natural. The perspective is all wrong and there are major proportion issues. How is a man that tall supposed to hold on to the rail when they're going down for example? Creating an environment drawing like this, it always starts with perspective.

[Anonymous No.3982311]

>>3982303
>major proportion issues
i fixed the left hand but what else is wrong?

>perspective
agree.

[Anonymous No.3982313]

Can't you see I'm retarded?

[Anonymous No.3982328]

>>3982294
So I already have got it?

[Anonymous No.3982337]

Can someone give me good references/books about noses, it’s the one of the face that I seem to consistently fuck up.

[Anonymous No.3982343]

>>3982337
*one part of the face

[Anonymous No.3982355]

>>3982294
Then what is foundational drawing?

[Anonymous No.3982362]

>>3982267
Am I, am I supposed to copy the lines?

[Anonymous No.3982373]

>>3982355
The preliminary sketch.

[Anonymous No.3982376]

Just finished this. Please, destroy.

[Anonymous No.3982378]

is this maximum autism or something people do?
I was fooling around and made this BFG type thing, and when I flip it upside down it looks like some type of elf
thought it might help with cartoony drawings and perspective since I've got a reference, even if it is very crude

[Anonymous No.3982380]

>>3982373
Okay I give up. Thanks for trying.

[Anonymous No.3982382]

>>3982376
So is that supposed to be a massive dick tucked underneath that latex suit?

[Anonymous No.3982385]

>>3982378

[Anonymous No.3982391]

>>3982382

[Anonymous No.3982399]

>>3982311
>proportions
chest, head, legs, hands no the same size. Not to mention the man is too big for that set of stairs.

[Anonymous No.3982406]

>>3982399
>Not to mention the man is too big for that set of stairs

yea agreed.
>hands, head
agree.
>chest, legs
can you red line this for me as to why?

[Anonymous No.3982426]

What should one do to not end up like >>3972925
?

[Anonymous No.3982461]

How exactly do you practice perspective, something that is mainly theory?

[Anonymous No.3982466]

[Anonymous No.3982468]

Can anybody help with the pose itself? trying to do a flying knee kinda thing and theres no references I can find for that sorta pose.

[Anonymous No.3982470]

>>3982378
>>3982385
done with this for now, I'd probably gain a lot from doing Loomis too
the one on the upper left with the beard was from imagination and memory of the others

[Anonymous No.3982477]

Are my Fun with a pencil exercises just that bad guys?
Did this one, still no 3D and I don't know where to put detail in any of them

[Anonymous No.3982479]

>>3982477
Thats Senator Armstrong, you need to give him a huge muscular body and a resentment towards cyborgs

[Anonymous No.3982485]

>>3982479
He looks like it, I'll make a proper Armstrong now

[Anonymous No.3982520]

Senator Armstrong, I like this drawing, but I know it has lots of mistakes. I had fun with it

[Anonymous No.3982521]

Better be drawing.

[Anonymous No.3982523]

>>3982520
>>3982479
What do you think of this one?

[Anonymous No.3982527]

>>3982520
Holy shit yeah thats much better, good work anon

[Anonymous No.3982539]

>>3982527
Thanks

[Anonymous No.3982545]

I'm retarded, can I still draw?

[Anonymous No.3982558]

>>3982545
50%

[Anonymous No.3982634]

I'm an actual baby at this.
First day at digital, how the fuck do I paint?

[Anonymous No.3982637]

>>3982545
artists usually have autism so yeah

[Anonymous No.3982664]

>>3982362
Just keep the proportions in mind and apply them to your construction.

[Anonymous No.3982732]

>The mirror view reveals that the left eye is too high.
>Copy layer, and lower the left eye until it looks right in the mirror image.
>But the eye looks too low in the original view.
What is this hell? Is it because of incorrect orientation of the eyes and/or the nose?
Please help me. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.3982764]

>>3982376
here you go!

[Anonymous No.3982767]

Can I get a critique? It's an OC of mine, feet are my arch nemesis.Mostly wondering if the gesture is alright, and everything is where it should be. I didn't use a reference, and if I self-crit, I think my abs and legs still got some ways to go. Trying to aim to hopefully one day have a manga-esque style.

[Anonymous No.3982768]

>>3982545
Doesn't stop every anime artist

[Anonymous No.3982774]

>>3982085
you dont really want to draw a long line and draw a bunch of heads and draw your figure top to bottom and leave it at that. start with your overall torso shape, divide it into thirds and theres your base head size.
head system isnt that useful outside of drawing one proportional figure, if you were doing a comic scene you wouldnt start it off by drawing all the heads of length.

[Anonymous No.3982780]

>>3982732
The uneven lineweight in the edges of the eyes and pupil sizes could have contributed to that.

[Anonymous No.3982809]

i keep drawing people eating food but don't you worry i will draw the foreheads bigger next time i just need to work on perspective as seen earlier in the thread however does it matter if i jump from book to book while studying? i keep going from fun with a pencil to hampton's figure drawings to perspective made easy and to anime books will that hinder my learning process?

[Anonymous No.3982811]

>>3982382
No?

>>3982764
Lol.

[Anonymous No.3982820]

How do I soul?

Memes aside, pieces like pic related always make me realize I'm not good at expressions, despite making gains in anatomy.

Objectively there's a lot of rough linework in it, and chickenscratches around the hand and such, but the face just pops out at you so much that you that the little things don't matter as much.

[Anonymous No.3982827]

>>3982820
post your work please along this one otherwise we can't help.

[Anonymous No.3982832]

>>3982163
Up until the 250box challenge it will really help you with line confidence

[Anonymous No.3982835]

>>3982827
Here's the linework for a piece I finished recently.

I'm actually pretty happy with how it looks, but my facial expressions just feel.. flat.

[Anonymous No.3982836]

>>3982732
I think the bigger difference is that the face's geometry does not line up with the angle. It is a low angle right? That will make a the mouth and the hoe and the eyes curve upwards. Then you you will fond it way easier to describe the form of the face.

[Anonymous No.3982840]

>>3982835
Thanks.
>I'm actually pretty happy with how it looks, but my facial expressions just feel.. flat.
Could you pinpoint exactly what kind of expression are you going for?

[Anonymous No.3982847]

>>3982840
Happy/Erotic/Excited/Seductive

It's a succubus with a meal in front of her.

I do my best with the sketches and linework, and yet I still feel like I can't pull off expressions like >>3982820 despite it being a simpler design.

Here's a completed one where the desired expression is "Annoyed and Embarrassed", yet I can't say it really comes across.

[Anonymous No.3982852]

>>3982847
>>3982835
Ok, thanks I'll take a closer look at it after I get home.

[Wrexclone No.3982854]

I’m trying to get better at painting

[Anonymous No.3982860]

>>3982847
you drew that cinnadia? i sought to gain your drawing powers good drawer

[Anonymous No.3982864]

>>3982860
Yep. I like doing costumes with lots of little details.

Here's the full set if you want:
https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=74690664

[Anonymous No.3982908]

>>3982020
I'm going to bother you all with my thing again since we switched to a new thread. I fixed the Torso-Leg ratio, and I would like your opinion on the pose. Is it okay? Can I start adding line weight/details?

[Anonymous No.3982910]

First real painting I did for a class, the meaning behind it nearly got me questioned by the police. It's done with acrylic on canvas and I'm thinking of putting mod podge on it to protect it.

[Anonymous No.3982914]

>>3982854
I think making the shadows deeper would help. i would also use a color that isnt too close to the purple that you used for the body.

[Anonymous No.3982943]

>>3982908
Either start all over again after doing 50 gestures or finish your piece and move on. You're just wasting your time here.

[Wrexclone No.3982954]

>>3982914
Do you have a convenient way to pick out color palettes?

[Anonymous No.3982956]

>>3982016
What's the best way to learn how to draw expressions? Just draw various expressions referenes or is there a book that specifically touches the subject?

[Anonymous No.3982961]

>>3982847
>>3982835
>>3982820
Okay >>3982852 here I am back here is what I can notice

The ref you posted has different spacing for the parts of the face. Notably the eyes are smaller than your s and they keep the "enough space for a 3rd eye between the eyes" rule. It has more space between the nose and the eyes and the same amount of space for the mouth.

About yours, the first thing I immediately noticed is that your faces a bit rigid and samey for both the annoyed and the happy one. Keep in mind that the face has 43 (!) different muscles and it is capable of an astonishing amount of subtle and radical changes to its shape. The key for making it stylized is to know how and what part of the face changes with emotion. Luckly our brain has evolved to be able to easily notice and even the subtlest of changes which makes us capable to decode it even on simple drawings

You do not seem use the eyebrows enough, the eyebrows have key role in showing expression and since we are stylizing them we are free to exaggerate and move the eyebrows in radical ways that help exaggerate the expression. We can move them up and down pull them in and even move them independently. The ref has them raised up high to show interest and curiosity. But if you are annoyed the brows come don and pull together. Do not be afraid to move them around.

Then edge of the lips, while very subtle on kawaiiuguu faces are also a crucial part of conveying emotion. The lips are ultra flexible and capable of a great deal of shape changing, stretching and pushing towards every direction. Use it to curve it up and down, make it thicker, make it asymmetric.

Eyes too even without the brows can convey emotions, just by being pulled together and thin to bulging out, or just lazily hanging half open.

Cheek muscles pay a vital role at this, they pull up at the edges when we smile, they pull up in the center when we sneer, all these subtle changes can be used to gently deform the big animu eyes.

Questions?

[Anonymous No.3982965]

Just posting something in the making. I had to do a ton of corrections because it looked too western to me at first, maybe it's the clean lineart that reminds me of cartoons like Teen Titans, but whatever. Drawing is what matters right now.

[Anonymous No.3982968]

>>3982961
Also FUCK this board's miniscule character limit per post... you seriously can't explain anything in one post.

have an even more angry loli, I tried not to make it too much on the previous post but you can do it this much even.

Do you have questions Anon?

[Anonymous No.3982976]

>>3982328
If you're making drawing that capture the gesture in a way that a viewer can tell what it is, yes.

And, moving on from that, being able to see gesture and adding it to future compositions. Gesture is movement. Say you get a commission to draw someone playing tennis. You'd play with the pose with quick gestural drawings to get a feel for the overall shape,pose, and composition, and when you find what feels right, you move on to the first studies and roughs. Or, you can look critically at future work, and try to see if what you did captured the gesture you intended.
That's why gesture is just quick lines. It's not a finished drawing. It's learning to SEE the gesture in a pose, and then transferring that through your brain onto paper. it's an exercise for your brain. It's getting so familiar with it, it becomes instinctual for you.

[Anonymous No.3982977]

>>3982968
>>3982961
Wow thanks. I'm about to fall asleep, but I checked back just in time.

I see what you mean, I'm definitely not using eyebrows like I should, and I can stand to bend the eyes a bit more.

I guess now that I'm getting the hang of putting a piece together, I naturally incline towards safe expressions instead of playing with my design to get more feeling from it.

I won't read this till tomorrow, but is there something I can use to practice this particular issue (facial expressions)?

[Anonymous No.3982979]

>>3982355
The first steps of a finished work - laying out the composition as a whole, capturing a full figure, or object, working with volume, mass, shape, and contour.

[Anonymous No.3982981]

>>3982977
>but is there something I can use to practice this particular issue (facial expressions)?
I would say "look at people" or just look at yourself in the mirror. But go and sleep, come back tomorrow Anon.

[Anonymous No.3982985]

>>3982956
For starters, read these anons they talk about that >>3982961
>>3982968
>>3982977
Then I'd add that it's about understanding how the face works, since you already know enough expressions from real life and watching anime, probably. The issue is knowing the anatomy of the face and how the eyebrow mouth and eyes react... I didn't particularly study it but whenever I drew something with a face and posted it here, the good anons gave me tips.
For example when a character smiles strongly, the corners of their eyes get some marks. Also happens with the corners of the mouth, depending on age they'll mark strongly or not at all (cute anime girls almost never have corners in their mouths when smiling but it's more common on rugged men). You learn by drawing and getting corrected and studying the face....

But I just found out a good book on the mega which shows a lot of drawings about expressions. Look at them and learn something useful, maybe. It's the mega from the sticky I believe. The book is "Draw in digital tools! How to draw the overflow facial expressions emotions of the characters"


https://mega.nz/#F!XRF0iY7Z!VZREnIDndi-z0zphl9dCvg!fJcgSa4T

[Anonymous No.3982990]

>>3982908
Your maiev would look good in a comic book

But >>3982943 is correct in that learning ho to draw gesture would probably help you the most right about now.

[Anonymous No.3982995]

>>3982016
I'd appreciate a second pair of eyes. Any advice appreciated.

[Anonymous No.3982996]

>>3982995
have you tried putting the image behind yours to see what's wrong with it?

[Anonymous No.3983001]

How'd I do here?

[Anonymous No.3983010]

>>3983001
I've seen doujins with that quality so I'll say it's fine. But I'm a /beg/ easy to satisfy

[Anonymous No.3983011]

>>3982985
>Why yes, I do give answers and great help to /beg/inners
I think pic related is you. Thanks for the fast and good answer.

[Anonymous No.3983032]

cvbcvbcv

[Anonymous No.3983036]

First ever value study, wasnt as daunting as i thought it would be but then again its only a square
Feedback appreciated
Will probably do another on sunday if I have the energy for it

[Anonymous No.3983037]

>>3982995
Most body parts had the right shape but were in different sizes, except a small difference in pose with the neck and back/stomach and too short legs. I think blocking out the body with rough shapes might help me to draw the parts in the correct sizes next time

[Anonymous No.3983048]

>>3983010
Oh, ty. I appreciate it much.

[Anonymous No.3983075]

[Anonymous No.3983086]

Most of the time I draw completely free hand. Over the years I have tried cartooning, realism, anime, and graffiti art styles mainly in pencil and pen.

[Anonymous No.3983093]

Is Noah Bradley's Landscape course worth $500? I did these while listening to his free video intro to Landscapes.

[Anonymous No.3983098]

I've never felt this kind of power before

[Anonymous No.3983103]

>>3983086
The $500 pricepoint makes it seem like a scam, that's super overpriced. Maybe Bradley is extremely thorough and he is very good at painting landscapes but I don't think he'll teach you many "secrets" you can't learn anywhere else for less money. The fundamentals that make up good landscape painting aren't exactly that complicated.

I'd say save your money and take Nathan Fowkes' Schoolism courses on environment design, composition, color and light first and you should have a great idea of everything you should be doing. Fowkes also specializes in landscapes/environments but has far more work and teaching experience than Bradley.

[Anonymous No.3983115]

>>3983001
this is my goal

i think feet looks weird, other than that it looks great

[Anonymous No.3983144]

what software should i pick when starting with digital drawing, do i need to looking for something special or photoshop is good enough. are there better option than photoshop?

[Anonymous No.3983147]

>>3983144
I haven't used the other programs but Photoshop has been good enough. Also most use it so there's tutorials for everything.
But being in beg, it's not like we need any special tool. Just layers, brushes and a color wheel.

[Anonymous No.3983149]

>>3983098
Face is good Anon but on the standing shot she seems to be falling over

[Anonymous No.3983154]

Opinions? Anatomy is rotoscoped from my own selfie / so it's not stealing/ did not put emphasis on details

I have to practice rendering / coloring since I usually draw/construct and then give up which makes my skill level very uneven
/drawn in medibang paint in samsung note s 9

[Anonymous No.3983162]

>>3983149
So it wasn't my imagination.. Well let's just say she's genderbent Michael Jackson doing the moonwalk, that was so close.

[Anonymous No.3983166]

>>3983149
So it wasn't my imagination.. Well let's just say she's genderbent Michael Jackson doing the smooth criminal tilt, that was so close.

[Anonymous No.3983195]

>>3983154
Eat less.

[Anonymous No.3983203]

>>3983154
LONDON

[Anonymous No.3983205]

>>3983154
I guess those colors fit, but life isn't all that interesting, I'd suggest deviating from using the exact same colors you see and using brighter ones Idk like the ones you'd see in pro illustrations for movies or books or whatever.

Also don't worry rendering shouldn't be a worry for you if you're not a pro yet. Master construction and lines and basic drawing first. Once you can do anything you can start thinking about how you'll color it.

[Anonymous No.3983207]

>>3983195
It's in progress. Around November 2018 I was 171 lbs / 78 kg but now I am around 143 lbs/ 65 kg

[Anonymous No.3983212]

>>3983205
Thanks for replying! Yeah originally the pants were (in life) blue so I did some adjustments with tone correct later on.
I'm not actually coloring, just shading/AO/ and then plopping a color layer under it

[Anonymous No.3983214]

>>3983154
>>3983212
can we see your tits?

[Anonymous No.3983217]

>>3983207
Progress is progress but unironically if you ate less and did more physical activity you would be normal looning right now.

[Anonymous No.3983218]

>>3983214
>>3983217
This isn't /fit/ or /soc/, let's keep the thread on topic so the mods don't get mad.

I do draw some suggestive stuff

[Anonymous No.3983240]

I don't when I made this but, here.
I think I needed to add more variations in colors and values in the skin.

[Anonymous No.3983251]

>>3983218
link to your /soc/ posts then, for uhh.. drawing reference purposes

[Anonymous No.3983257]

trying to get back into digital

[Anonymous No.3983296]

>>3983257
the way you draw faces is my end goal. how?

[Anonymous No.3983320]

>>3983257
now add the light values, ur doing very fine.

[Anonymous No.3983334]

i want to learn how to paint delicious food. are there any food artists you follow ic?

[Anonymous No.3983338]

I can’t figure out how to get lips to wrap around the head shape, all my lips look like stickers on dolls faces. Not even worried about eyes or nose atm, just wanna get better at the lips.

[Anonymous No.3983346]

Ended up doing 8pages of study stuff today even though I was planning on taking it easy due to bad hay fever.
then while watching netflix I will still itching to draw and ended up just doodling another head trying to apply some stuff and check my understanding, think it came out alright.

Studying is pretty fun once you break through your own mental barriers/biases etc

[Anonymous No.3983347]

>>3983338

[Anonymous No.3983356]

>>3982780
>>3982836
Thank you.

[Anonymous No.3983385]

>>3982083
I was having a mental meltdown like that on /v/ a few weeks ago and made a huge fool out of myself, and I have to say don't give up on yourself, I know it's hard but don't. You have to find tips to change your MINDSET, (which I also need to change) but do it with smaller steps. It may take longer but I encourage you to keep trying.

[Anonymous No.3983421]

Please can I get some help here? The face isnt done yet, and I have no Idea how to draw that other arm.The legs look way too big too.
Colours here are placeholder to help me see where everything is.

[Anonymous No.3983475]

>>3982016
any good books for painting anime girls?

[Anonymous No.3983521]

How's this doodle

[Anonymous No.3983535]

>>3982083
it depends on how hard you work, the more hours and effort you put in, the sooner you'll get there. there's been stories of people going from noob to pro in as little as 6 months, keep at it anon

[Anonymous No.3983540]

>>3983334
idk but vettyr who used to frequent /ic/ would sometimes post food paintings on her social media

[Anonymous No.3983586]

Am I doing something wrong if the final linework takes as long or longer than actually drawing the drawing

[Anonymous No.3983600]

What do I lack?

[Anonymous No.3983603]

[Anonymous No.3983604]

>>3983521
expect a visit from nosebro

>>3983600
the ability to resize your images

[Anonymous No.3983605]

[Anonymous No.3983607]

>>3983604
How would I do that on my phone?

[Anonymous No.3983659]

>>3983600
By just postong unfinished doodle of faces the only answer I can give is everything. You lack everything.

[Anonymous No.3983662]

Am i still beginner?

[Anonymous No.3983667]

>>3983662
yes i anime is all you can draw and no if you mastered anime.

you can leave /beg/ and go to ic anime thread and learn more from them now.

[Anonymous No.3983668]

>>3983662
You're drawing anime and I can tell that you only draw anime so yes

[Anonymous No.3983669]

>>3983218
What I'm working on tonight
Gonna give it extra love before I jump to polish the turd

[Anonymous No.3983670]

>>3983667
if*

[Anonymous No.3983671]

>>3983604
Sorry, I'm a newfag, who?

[Anonymous No.3983678]

>>3983667
not the anon but anime and the real stuff are too different things? What if I were to incorporate the stuff I learn into anime drawings? Like muscles and anatomy.

[Anonymous No.3983679]

>>3983667
>>3983668
Funny how you guys can say by looking on my work that most of my drawings are anime, cuz its true. Can you explain what brings this thoughts? I'm just curious.
Anyway i know that sticking to anime only is hurtful so here's mine Loomis study.

[Anonymous No.3983686]

>>3983679
>Anyway i know that sticking to anime only is hurtful
it is? curious, explain.

[Anonymous No.3983687]

>>3983686
Anime is stylized and stylizing is basically braking rules in your favor. So before braking the rules its good to know them.

[Anonymous No.3983691]

>>3983678
it would still be anime.
>>3983679
>Funny how you guys can say by looking on my work that most of my drawings are anime, cuz its true.Can you explain what brings this thoughts? I'm just curious

you posted anime and tho it's good the problem is it doesn't look like what professional anime artist draw and most people who post anime only draw anime pushing away everything else.


>Anyway i know that sticking to anime only is hurtful so here's mine Loomis study
Not hurtful if you understand it(which you do) and can draw it or are drawing doing studies at the same time.

[Anonymous No.3983710]

>>3983678
"Anime" is cartooning. Cartooning and traditional art have a lot of overlap, but it's a different mindset. That's not a slam on cartooning, it's just a different aesthetic and has different goals and paths to the final image.

[Anonymous No.3983715]

>>3982185
This book alone helped more than draw a box challenges for some reason. Earnest is a fucking god when it comes to visualization and I think that is more important than brute forcing your brain into drawing many boxes.

[Anonymous No.3983720]

>>3983669
Fixed some uncanny valley feels, good night anons/onions

[Anonymous No.3983727]

[Anonymous No.3983728]

studay

[Anonymous No.3983730]

starting with keys to drawing
thoughts?

[Nosebro No.3983754]

>>3983604
Why? You want me to tell him to leave beg?

[Anonymous No.3983760]

>>3983730
Sorry, here the image resized

[Anonymous No.3983775]

I missed last thread, wtf Construct anon became some sort of God at bodies and clothes and even the shading is tolerable but I find it funny he still struggles with faces, that's usually the first thing people get right, big anime faces or realistic ones. It's half a compliment, half a jab.
>Dude just look for a tutorial on faces or something this is almost perfect

[Anonymous No.3983776]

>>3983659
>>3983659
What turns a drawing into something finished? I thought this was a place to get advise on how to improve lol I don’t have delusions of grandeur or anything, I know I’m not great, I draw for fun, but if I can pick up stuff to improve my hobby I’m open to it

[Anonymous No.3983780]

>>3983521
I'm tempted to say
>not /beg/
But it's a sketch. It looks flawless for a sketch. The face and the hand and the forms are beautiful. Ans it's a mecha suit or something so I don't notice anatomy errors. The feet are triangles but it's a cartoon.

But now finish it. You're on that stage now, it's what I told to her >>3983205
>Once you can perfectly draw, start worrying about render
Which in this case means your sketch is perfect so now add shading and let's see if it still looks good. And if you take it further, scan it and color it, though leaving it in black and white is still valid. But add more finishing details with shadows and marked lineweight.

[Anonymous No.3983781]

>>3982990
Your sketch does look a lot more alive than my thing. I guess I'll finish this one and go back to grinding gesture. What do you mean by "it would look good in a comic book" by the way?

(thanks for the crits anyway)

[Anonymous No.3983782]

Not to brag but
inb4 >Leave /beg/

[Anonymous No.3983802]

>>3983730
>>3983760
Next time, draw lots of hands.
Looks fine. Your observation is good.

Just wish you would have put more details (wrinkles, nails, shadows)

[Anonymous No.3983807]

>>3983802
Thanks for respond my post!
and what about the line quality?
im doing chicken scratching?

[Anonymous No.3983808]

Will I get banned if I post a girl getting fucked by a dog

[Anonymous No.3983809]

>>3983782
Respond pls

[Anonymous No.3983814]

>>3983808
Why would you, this is the board were all art is created, NSFW included

[Anonymous No.3983815]

>>3983093
The only interesting landscape is bottom right. Everything else looks like nothing.

Learn values and perspective.
Rewatch his free videos again. He explains it all there.

[Anonymous No.3983816]

>>3983782
>>3983809
Remain in /beg/

[Anonymous No.3983818]

>>3983782
you're in the right place. just tone down the kruger.

[Anonymous No.3983819]

>>3983807
I think it looks fine, just draw a lot more hands.
You'll start to notice it more when you are adding details and drawing more complex hand poses.

I wouldn't worry too much about chicken scratching, just follow the book and draw what you see. Be confident :)

[Anonymous No.3983820]

I posted organic forms a few days ago and have probably done like 30 pages of the stuff since then. What do I still need to work on?

[Anonymous No.3983822]

>>3983782
Are you perhaps an animation student? I remember using that shitty blue/orange pencil crap.

[Anonymous No.3983826]

>>3983782
This is also my drawing, it’s just my style of sketching. Now can you say the same?

[Anonymous No.3983843]

here is a drawing im not too embarrassed by to share, im actually pretty happy with it.

[Anonymous No.3983856]

>>3983826
Where did you learn to render?

[Anonymous No.3983858]

[Anonymous No.3983859]

Working on lining this

[Anonymous No.3983871]

>>3983858
God dude what

[Anonymous No.3983874]

>>3983858
need more roomis

[Anonymous No.3983876]

>>3983858
woof woof :)

[Anonymous No.3983883]

>>3983859
Hey, I saw you in the drawthread last name night.

[Anonymous No.3983886]

>>3983858
I see Paintfag is aspiring to evolve his craft to make someone fap to it. Keep working dude. But for starters look for pictures of girls in those poses and spot the difference with your drawing

[Anonymous No.3983891]

[Anonymous No.3983892]

>>3982016
What do I do if I just want to draw cartoon porn? That's honestly the only thing that interests me. No animals or furry or anything, just cartoon people. Western animation.

Loomis books or something else?

[Anonymous No.3983898]

>>3983858
do you also use loomis on the dog?

[Anonymous No.3983913]

Draw.

[Anonymous No.3983925]

I'm scared of using the fine liner for shadows and I'm not sure how to simplify textures. I noticed I messed up the flower because it's probably above my current level but wanted to finish it anyway.

Any site where I can I find nice pictures of a variety of plants?

[Anonymous No.3983929]

>>3983891
Use ruler anon some of your lines are slanting when it shouldn't for example the top hood of the car is leaning when it gets to the right. Otherwise though nice work showing volume in your drawings I think that is your strong point for now.

[Anonymous No.3983937]

[Anonymous No.3983940]

>>3983937
>>3983727
Blog?

[Anonymous No.3983983]

How do I make my lines juicier like right? My drawing's (left) lines look flat compared to rights. I have line variation, but it's not getting that plump look that I want.
What am I missing?

[Anonymous No.3983986]

>>3983983
Make your lines black

[Anonymous No.3983992]

>>3983986
A step in the right direction for sure

[Anonymous No.3984001]

>>3982065
>>3982085
>>3982134
>>3982261
>>3982376
>>3982378
>>3982477
>>3982520
>>3982521
>>3982634
>>3982767
>>3982809
>>3982910
>>3983032
>>3983075
>>3983728
you're all on the right track, keep drawing

[Anonymous No.3984005]

>>3984001
Because YOU ARE MY EARFQUAKE.

[Anonymous No.3984006]

And DON'T LEAVE, it's my fault. DON'T LEAVE, it's my fault. CAUSE YOU ARE MY EARFQUAKE

[Anonymous No.3984010]

>>3983983
vary your line weight to go thicker and fill in creases selectively.

[Anonymous No.3984011]

>>3983983
>>3983992
Study how the artist portrays the intersection of rounded forms with his line weight variation. Look how thick the lines at the side of her hip or underneath her butt are.

[Anonymous No.3984018]

>>3984010
!!!
Wow, make it seem so easy, thank you. I think I'm just worried that it'll look like I'm adding nonsensical shadows when I actually want them to come off as where weight drops, but I'll take bigger risks when inking next time.

>>3984011
I see. Have to find OG artists and see how they strategize where they add weight

[Anonymous No.3984022]

>>3984001
Leave beg

[Anonymous No.3984024]

>>3983843
Looks cool, hope you're not a degenerate

[Anonymous No.3984026]

>>3983871
It was for a shitpost
>>3983876
damn straight
>>3983886
I wish I was a talented as paintfag. Also, I will do that.
>>3983883
Was just dropping something off while passing through. Don't expect to see me back in that shithole.
>>3983898
I tried to use Loomis on the dog. I had a vision of a dog head in my mind and it started mostly alright but the muzzle fucked me up. Then I realized how fucked the girl's pose and body already was so I couldn't really draw the dog accurately as I wanted and just slapped him on top of her back.
>>3983859
Not gonna color this because its pretty garbage. Lined it because I have no "finished" works for this year. Forgot how much I hate this shitty little tablet but its fine for finishing stuff I guess.

[Anonymous No.3984028]

>>3984018
This tutorial is what helped my linework. Disregard all the stuff about drawing tits and just look at the lineweight section.

[Anonymous No.3984033]

>>3984028
>apologizing for drawing something
>bE gRaTeFuL

[Anonymous No.3984036]

>>3984028
do you have to erase the edges to make them look like that?

[Anonymous No.3984037]

>>3984028
>apologizing for drawing lolis
>commences to draw nothing but cows
You just can't help but feel insulted.

[Anonymous No.3984046]

>>3984036
no, just have a tablet than is pressure sensitive and make the line weight vary from 0% to 100%. This will allow you to have either super thin lines with no pressure tapering all the way to the full weight with max pressure.

[Anonymous No.3984049]

>>3984001
thanks for the encouragement anon.

[Anonymous No.3984050]

>>3984046
>just have a tablet than is pressure sensitive and make the line weight vary from 0% to 100%
like this? i've been using this bamboo tablet for a decade

[Anonymous No.3984052]

Ughhh goddammit it took 2 hours to line that fucking thing not counting all the breaks I took. I'm not gonna have anytime to draw when I have to start college in August and part time wage slaving. Fucking hell I wasted too much time doing nothing on 4chan when I was still in highschool. God fucking dammit all.

[Anonymous No.3984056]

>>3984052
All my college notebooks are filled with shitty drawings and doodles

you can do it

[Anonymous No.3984061]

>>3984050
Yes like that. Although if you're using the standard round brush you'll need to play with your tablet pressure settings, or the brush settings, to avoid having them end in teardrops rather than sharp points (also general lineweight practice). I use a flat brush with pressure sensitivity for my own stuff, but it has its ups and downs. Im going to sleep now, but I'd encourage you look into tutorials on mastering digital lineweight.

[Anonymous No.3984080]

there is someone teaching bridgman in video format?

[Anonymous No.3984082]

took a break from loomis heads to try some exercises from rsb. took 2 stabs at contour drawings, but they dont really look like the examples.

[Anonymous No.3984083]

>>3984082
second one. i think ill try finishing rsb first then loomis.

[Anonymous No.3984100]

>>3984028
There's no bridges in new york

[Anonymous No.3984101]

>>3984026
>Don't expect to see me back in that shithole.
Why?

[Anonymous No.3984102]

>>3984022
Hold my tiddy

[Anonymous No.3984112]

Trying loomis heads for the first time

Is it normal if they suck even harder than the heads i draw from imagination?

[Anonymous No.3984113]

>>3983604
What does a reply from Nosebro mean, does he see something in you or something, or is he just a helpful lad?

[Anonymous No.3984127]

>>3984113
He's stupid

[Anonymous No.3984140]

>>3984113
both

[Anonymous No.3984150]

>>3984001
pyw

[Anonymous No.3984151]

>>3984113

I think he's a beg who think he's very good, but I am new too

[Anonymous No.3984165]

>>3984101
Because its full of greedy beggars that don't deserve anything

[Anonymous No.3984178]

>>3984113
Nosebro is okay when he makes a critique video but since he namfags there are also Anons that just pretend to be him and just insult people.

[Anonymous No.3984194]

>>3984151
Don''t say that, I've been fearing that people might refer to me when they talk about Nosebro. I'm also a beg who thinks he's very good and sometimes I write giant paragraphs giving tips. I never insult anyone though and I don't remember saying anything about noses.

[Anonymous No.3984195]

all i did today with the proko

[Anonymous No.3984196]

>>3984195
he cute

[Anonymous No.3984199]

>>3984127
>>3984140
>>3984151
>>3984178
A stupid, helpful, and insightful dude. Seems like a solid guy

[Anonymous No.3984204]

>>3984195
all the legs should be longer

[Anonymous No.3984213]

>>3984204
explain

[Anonymous No.3984219]

>>3984213
Take leg critiques lightly, legs can be any size within reason if your elbows and waist are in porportion.

[Anonymous No.3984225]

I've done some loomis, and I struggle a lot with face at angles such as pic related, from the top and from below, do I just need to learn to map the face better, understand eyes better, both?

[Anonymous No.3984228]

Today I'm going to focus on nothing but gestures!!

[Anonymous No.3984229]

>>3984225

[Anonymous No.3984231]

>>3984228
While listening to royksopp

[Anonymous No.3984233]

8min doodle in 48sec

[Anonymous No.3984339]

Imma hack that did a basic-ass profile sketch.
First drawing I tried to do in ages. Not particularly happy with the hair. Eyes too.

[Anonymous No.3984345]

Has anyone ever used this app? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.charmaker

[Anonymous No.3984388]

So I want to be able to draw something like the first two example artists and colour like my man Mucha. That's my goal and I'm a long way off but I'm going to draw every day until I get there.

[Anonymous No.3984392]

This is where I'm at so what should I be focusing on to go from here to here, >>3984388?

Like I said I have a long way to go but I want this guys.

[Anonymous No.3984400]

just finished this modified contour. haven't felt anything described in rsb, so ill try a couple more.

[Anonymous No.3984432]

still learning figure drawing

[Anonymous No.3984437]

any good references for top down angled perspective?

[Anonymous No.3984449]

Loomis. It’s nothing much, I know... but I think the sphere exercise helped me how to think in 3D better.

[Anonymous No.3984473]

I'm having trouble with this portrait. I can't put my finger on what's wrong, but something feels off. Could someone with fresh eyes help me? If possible I'd would appreciate a redline :)

[Anonymous No.3984475]

>>3984432
There is tumor with a nipple growing out of her stump.

[Anonymous No.3984477]

>>3984473
It has no form. It's really flat, that is the problem. There needs to be some indication that it's a three dimensional object.

[Anonymous No.3984480]

>>3984473
do you want to draw or do you want to paint?

[Anonymous No.3984481]

>>3984477
Also the ears are too high, the hair looks like a bird died on her head and her neck is too broad.

[Anonymous No.3984484]

>>3984480
No good can come from this question. They have the same fundamental skills.

[Anonymous No.3984488]

>>3984449
You still draw too flat. putting circles on a face isn't creating any form.

[Anonymous No.3984494]

So gesture drawing isn't used in construction?

[Anonymous No.3984498]

>>3984480

At the moment i'm just trying to draw, I want to learn how to paint,

>>3984481
>>3984477
Thanks, I will redo the neck. I lowered the ear. I just tried to block in the hair to get a feel for the shape, I will put more effort into it later.

Thanks for the tips.

[Anonymous No.3984502]

>>3984481
How the fuck are the ears too high?

[Anonymous No.3984509]

>>3984502
Are you tarded?

The ref might have looked downward a bit but going from the (lack off) forshortening, visible nostrils and the lobes that are attached near the eye it isn't.

[Anonymous No.3984510]

I know, I'm very beg, but is there any hope for me?
Also is this drawing decent enough to colour properly, or should I change some things?

[Anonymous No.3984512]

>>3984510
>fur

No, no hope.

[Anonymous No.3984515]

this is ava. she has hair growth troubles and wears a wig to hide her baldness.

[Anonymous No.3984518]

>>3984512
Its not fur, its flesh! I swear! Please help

[Anonymous No.3984522]

>>3984502

[Anonymous No.3984523]

>>3984515
Based dead bird hair poster

[Anonymous No.3984524]

>>3984522
Ear is too high.

[Anonymous No.3984531]

>>3984524
Nigger are you blind?

[Anonymous No.3984536]

>>3984509
they are not too high

[Anonymous No.3984539]

>>3984536
They are, mongoloid.

[Anonymous No.3984538]

>>3984522
it was a question, they arent too high

[Anonymous No.3984541]

>>3984539
proof me wrong

[Anonymous No.3984542]

>>3984488
Thanks for the feedback! Any tips on how I can improve on form/making it look less flat?

[Anonymous No.3984547]

>>3984541
>>3984539
That guy wants you to draw his drawing for him, ignore him until he makes the ear normal

[Anonymous No.3984552]

Why does /ic/ hate animals, especially animal heads on human bodies?

[Anonymous No.3984567]

>>3984552
Bro, tell me about it -> >>3984512
Also help pls

[Anonymous No.3984603]

>>3984547
I'm the guy who did the drawing. I'm not part of the argument...

[Anonymous No.3984606]

Pls give crits

[Anonymous No.3984634]

>>3984567
you need loomis

[Anonymous No.3984635]

>>3984606
The eyes and the ears are too high.

[Anonymous No.3984646]

>>3984634
Unfortunately, our friend Andy is dead, so he cant give me any advice. I think I'm getting the hang of this though thankfully. I'll have to learn how to colour things digitally though, because I have zero clue in that regard

[Anonymous No.3984647]

>>3984437
anyone?

[Anonymous No.3984740]

Whats an anatomy book that doesnt skim on leg drawing?

[Anonymous No.3984761]

a portrait study i did, critiques appreciated

[Anonymous No.3984768]

>>3984392
why don't you draw eyelashes?

[Anonymous No.3984837]

>>3983001
shadman/10

[Anonymous No.3984838]

Hey, can someone help out the neck/shoulders and the ribcage near the armpit? I don't know if its correct or not, I'd like a second opinion. Feel free to rip it apart, I want to improve.

[Anonymous No.3984860]

is the neck too long?

[Anonymous No.3984893]

I have a long way to go. Think I'm going to study one body part at a time, starting with heads.

[Anonymous No.3984914]

>>3984838
is that marisa? i gotta draw more of her

[Anonymous No.3984921]

[Anonymous No.3984930]

>>3982016
Looking for critique.

[Anonymous No.3984951]

halp

[Anonymous No.3984953]

I was attacked by symbol drawing and I'm badly wounded

[Anonymous No.3984999]

hey guys, anyone got a reference for the catgirl I'm drawing in the pic? I literally just started drawing so it looks like dick, but I cant make any progress because I dont know how to draw her. I added color so you guys can atleast see what im doing

[Anonymous No.3985110]

This is my second day on digital gesture, by the 5th I found a good stabilizer point but I still find it shitty compared to my paper ones, how do I improve from here?

[Anonymous No.3985142]

>>3984914
yes

[Anonymous No.3985231]

>>3985110
too chicken-scratchy to be called gestures

[Anonymous No.3985277]

How am I doing?

[Anonymous No.3985287]

I want to kill myself.

[Anonymous No.3985357]

My progress has been at a sluggish pace in the past two weeks. A mix my job and being tired of Loomis's Fun with a Pencil. What's a good resource/book for simple anatomy studying? Or should I dig further into fwap?

[Anonymous No.3985369]

some gesture practice, what am I doing wrong? I can't draw legs, or backs for shit:

[Anonymous No.3985373]

some gesture practice, what am I doing wrong? I can't draw legs, or backs for shit:

[Anonymous No.3985390]

>>3985357
Do a bit of the stuff in FWAP and then move on to Hamptons Construction book. Can be found in one of the links in the Artbook thread.

[Anonymous No.3985393]

>>3985373
proportions

[Anonymous No.3985396]

>>3985393
what should I practice? My gesture drawings always get shitty proportions that get easily fixed once I construct under them.

[Anonymous No.3985422]

i still dont get foreshortening no matter what i read or reference i look at, it seems i always fuck it up

[Anonymous No.3985447]

/beg/ is not as active lately huh?

[Anonymous No.3985533]

Would this be considered a good guide?
https://youtu.be/cp3Jr6HtQDE

[Anonymous No.3985543]

3 min per pose. Any advice?

[Anonymous No.3985554]

New bread

>>3985548
>>3985548
>>3985548
>>3985548

[Anonymous No.3985779]

>>3985231
elaborate