/beg/inner thread, Beginner Edition

[Anonymous No.3978014]

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the /draw/thread with our fundamental exercises.

Previous thread: >>3967812

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, or you literally are never going to make it

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS:
1)
>screenshot the image and post that instead
2)
>change camera capture settings to something smaller
3)
>send to computer and resize in MSPaint

READ THE STICKY if you need guidance when you haven't even started.

Sticky: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

TRY TO GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK - many studies are left unreplied, which is a bit sad and can be quite demotivating for the people that try their best to improve, but are left directionless.

[Anonymous No.3978054]

>>3977865
Why the fuck is no one giving me any feedback?

[Anonymous No.3978056]

>>3978054
You didn't even try. Copy a photo or fail to make a cute shota and you'll get all the (You)s you so desperately desire.

[Anonymous No.3978057]

>>3978014
to anyone wanting better feedback, post your work with a little write up on what it is you were trying to achieve with the drawing, be specific, if you really want to get better you should have a specific thing your trying to improve each time, a shitty drawing can still be a super successful study/progress piece. With each new drawing build upon the groundwork of previous successful pieces.
Break your work down and tackle it in chunks (dont draw full pieces / render etc if just working on getting better at head construction), just dropping a mess and expect a decent crit is ridiculous, its far easier to give a good crit if everyone knows your clear intentions.

[Anonymous No.3978058]

>>3978056
Can you explain why I didnt even try?

[Anonymous No.3978062]

shouldn't have drawn in pencil first. Can't get the lines off :(

[Anonymous No.3978078]

I see lots of resources telling you to hold your pencil a certain way does that apply to pens and digital too?

[Anonymous No.3978082]

>>3978057
Most don't even Resize their images to 1000px

[Anonymous No.3978084]

How often should I be drawing from imagination versus studying?

[Anonymous No.3978085]

I'm having a lot of problems with my organic forms. For some reason I just can't get the lines to flow over them correctly and they just look like garbage. What am I doing wrong?

[Anonymous No.3978091]

>>3978085
You need more confident linework.

[Anonymous No.3978098]

>>3978085
>>3978091
pretty much what he said, the shapes aren't too bad in all honesty and they would look cleaner if you did it in smooth strokes, the wigglyness in your lines makes it look weird.
just do big confident strokes (that go outside the form if your worried about accuracy and erase away the excess), do it lightly, quickly and confidently.

Also try not to space out all the lines evenly, I believe it was the peter han course that said to vary the amount of lines and distance between them, you only really want to use the bare minimum to convey the change in form.

[Anonymous No.3978104]

>>3978091
>>3978098
Thanks anons. I try to do my lines in one long stroke and I guess that's whats making them wiggly. I'll try to be lighter and quicker with my linework from now on.

[Anonymous No.3978107]

Finished this a couple days ago and pretty happy with how it came out

[Anonymous No.3978115]

I'm trying this fig, starting with this build. Opinions?

[Anonymous No.3978116]

Sorry for the bad framing.

It's the first time I draw on a large paper. I put a pencil to show the size.

I need help on how to blur on a large paper without leaving little spots like shown on my picture.

[Anonymous No.3978125]

>>3978054
Ngl it looks like you haven't worked much on it, I wouldn't know where to start with critique. You should start learning absolute basics, then come back to it and redraw.

>>3978115
I see what you're doing with the head, why not with the body though? It definitely looks decent, her right hand just bugs me a bit. I think the boobs are a bit too low but not 100% sure.

[Anonymous No.3978133]

>>3978125
Oh shit, the gesture of the body, I totally missed it. Thx, gonna correct that.

[Anonymous No.3978139]

>>3978115
don't draw the silhouette, you have to actually draw the structure, if you don't what is the point... you are just doing symbol drawing.
You can seeing in the fact that you are trying the replicate her pose but not how the parts are has to be, like in the legs, where you did not draw the structure of the heels when it's obvious that it is relevant because they elevate the feet, if you do not draw them anyone can affirm that you simply draw bad feets. Also in the way you draw the hands and arms, or that you just draw a circle to say that the knees are there.
If you want to use a reference for learn to "draw the body", use an nude person, not with clothes, if you want to use the reference for the pose only, then you should not be asking because you already know how to draw the body.
In those kind of photos the only thing that you can learn is the pose, wich is really simply anyway, so no, you can learn the hands pose, wich also are easy so no, you can learn how to draw the heels and the dress, but you are not doing that. So just draw from nude photos instead and not waste time.
Is more easy see anatomy books for the individual parts, like the hands, feets, abdomen, head.

[Saint Alkamei !!nvOyCofy0bP No.3978140]

umm..
any drawing exercises you guys would like me to start off with?

I want to get really good

[Anonymous No.3978142]

>>3978140
taking off the trip

[Anonymous No.3978144]

>>3978140
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJjVVK2nwSw

[Saint Alkamei !!nvOyCofy0bP No.3978147]

>>3978142
But I would very much to document my progress.

[Anonymous No.3978149]

>>3978115
Head is slightly too big. You don't represent the forms in 3 dimensions, is just an outline. You haven't drawn any major landmarks. So as a basis for a drawing it's not that good.

Use naked references. They're naked for a reason and it's not to make you hard.

[Anonymous No.3978156]

>>3978140
sticky guys are fine to begginers, then you can study stuctures to learn to build them with the square and circles, then adding them to the sticky mans to upgrade them, they are so simple that you can even immerse in some composition, or issues of basic overlap or deformation of perspective.

[Anonymous No.3978160]

>>3978115
I would personally draw her skeleton and her body that’s covered by clothes over the picture and transfer it to my drawing

[Saint Alkamei !!nvOyCofy0bP No.3978167]

>>3978160
it's hard to read between the lines. why do you use them whereas the anon posted pic without it?

[Anonymous No.3978173]

>>3978125
>>3978149
I think I'll have to rethink my way of exercising. You have a point, I don't really know the 3d form well yet.

[Anonymous No.3978174]

>>3978107
The pose seems unnatural to me, it looks like he should be sitting on something
It might make it look more natural to have him on flat feet and his butt closer to the ground

[Anonymous No.3978191]

>>3978174
Thank you anon!

[Anonymous No.3978198]

>>3978014
What brushes should I use to paint something like this?

[Anonymous No.3978209]

>>3978198
that pic looks like it was painted entirely with a standard hard round in photoshop.

[Anonymous No.3978212]

>>3978209
>8209
>File: 74839398_p7.jpg (500 KB, 2575x3600)
really obvious by the paint strokes of the reflection on the table.

[Anonymous No.3978214]

>>3978209
Can you actually do this in photoshop? Never done digital art in my life and I was thinking about doing so.

[Anonymous No.3978221]

>>3978214
Yeah for sure, not just photoshop but pretty much every painting app. the hard round is standard across most software.

[Anonymous No.3978225]

>>3978221 Thanks for the info anon

[Anonymous No.3978231]

How does the shading look?

[Anonymous No.3978234]

>>3978116
I like it.

[Anonymous No.3978246]

>>3978234
Thank you! Do you have any suggestions on what I could do better?

[Anonymous No.3978247]

requesting help by redline please.

[Anonymous No.3978259]

>>3978116
What the hell am I looking at. That leather jacket is fucking sick but the face is day 1 /beg/. How in the world was this image produced.

[Anonymous No.3978260]

>>3978014
been practicing since last thread. loomis/frank cho book. i don't like the eyes

any advice and how is my progress

[Anonymous No.3978265]

>>3978247
It's a cartoon, how can you redline this? It looks fine.

[Anonymous No.3978269]

>>3978259
It's my first time drawing on a quite large piece of paper. I kinda messed up when I did the face because I wasn't used to working with such big proportions. I think my next project is going to be only a face on this size of paper to make sure I adapt myself to larger sized mediums.

[Anonymous No.3978273]

>>3978221
Clip studio too? and for this one?

[Anonymous No.3978274]

>>3978062
i dont know what im looking at but i love it

[Anonymous No.3978277]

[Anonymous No.3978279]

>>3978273
here a better example

[Anonymous No.3978283]

>>3978231
To put it bluntly: your shading is bad. There’s no sense of where the light source is coming from. You used flat shading on the hair, a weird gradient shading technique on the shirt, and cell shading on everything else. The “highlights” in the hair look lazy. Look at actual hair and fabric and see how light reflects off of it. And also learn how to shade according to a light source.

[Anonymous No.3978284]

>>3978277
hand looks weird. there’s too much dependency on lines instead of using values. speaking of values, they’re non existent here besides the lazy shading on the arm. Learn how to shade deliberately and use darker and lighter values as well as midtones, instead of just relying on white.

[Anonymous No.3978289]

>>3978279
How the fuck the skin looks so soft and beautiful?

[Anonymous No.3978309]

>>3978274
Gondola, anon. Spurdo’s wholesome cousin.

[Anonymous No.3978310]

>>3978247
Wish I could draw cartoons this good.

[Anonymous No.3978311]

I find back shots very intimidating, and I struggle a lot with the construction of them, any suggestions?

[Anonymous No.3978313]

>>3978269
Even if it wasn't intentional, I really like the stylization of the face and hair and how it contrasts with that dark jacket.

[Anonymous No.3978318]

>>3978313
I really appreciate it anon thank you!

[Anonymous No.3978324]

>>3978221
>>3978273
p-please answer

[Anonymous No.3978333]

>>3978289
because it is 2d

[Saint Alkamei !!nvOyCofy0bP No.3978338]

>>3978279
how do I get this good!?
This is unbelievable

[Anonymous No.3978349]

>>3978338

[Anonymous No.3978487]

Fun with a pencil guy here
So I drew bigger this time, this should be practice but I took around 50 minutes on doing this.
Half looking at loomis and the other half was meant to be an original drawing, but the planned perspective was too hard for a beginner like me.

[Anonymous No.3978490]

>>3978487
I should just practice and practice for now

[Saint Alkamei !!nvOyCofy0bP No.3978492]

>>3978349
I'll check out the sticky and read up on it then I shall return.

[Anonymous No.3978496]

[Anonymous No.3978511]

Kamala and her big ol' stretchy hands

[Anonymous No.3978520]

Tried doing drawabox and I'm garbage at this too as expected but he says to get other peoples eyes on your work so here it is.
https://imgur.com/a/kN41LlE
I don't really know what I did wrong I just know it looks shit.

[Anonymous No.3978523]

>>3978198
here is a video about brushes Anon maybe it will help

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Nt9fa8jZUE

[Anonymous No.3978527]

>>3978273
this pic is mid-high /beg/ tier, any decent artist could do better in paint
>>3978289
see webm
>>3978520
you are doing great
now repeat this three times over every day and your line quality will drastically improve in just a few weeks
also do ellipses and circles

[Anonymous No.3978539]

How the fuck am I supposed to do gesture drawings? Every site I go to suggest to not draw the contour yet everyone does? I don't want to waste more paper on drawings that won't get me anywhere

[Anonymous No.3978541]

>>3978527
where can I learn the style of painting in your webm, I see it constantly on /e/

[Anonymous No.3978548]

>>3978539
Try CtrlPaint's gesture video. Short and sweet.

[Anonymous No.3978553]

Here is something of a doozie. Berate my sorry arse.

[Anonymous No.3978560]

>>3978539
gesture is movement and flow, contour is just a chalk line around dead body
it sounds like mumbo-jumbo to everyone at first and it won't start clicking in until you spend weeks on figure drawing
don't stress over it and study other subjects, like perspective and construction, while spending 20-40 minutes on gestures every day
>>3978541
but this video has everything you ever need to know
make a mark with hard round brush, erase what you don't need, repeat

[Anonymous No.3978567]

Surprised at how many different colors there are in the image. Didn't expect blues there. Anyways, eyeballing the color in studies, yay or nay? Is it better to use the eyedropper tool?

[Anonymous No.3978573]

>>3978567
you screwed up shadows on the middle mountain but did well otherwise
>Anyways, eyeballing the color in studies, yay or nay?
that's the entire point of exercise

[Anonymous No.3978574]

maybe i'll copy the head exercises before applying to my own again

[Anonymous No.3978602]

>>3978560
Will that video help me though? As far as I know, Ctrl Paint stuff is usually made on digital and I wanna draw on traditional before moving to digital.
>Perspective
I've been told that mostly applies to backgrounds. Do I have to learn perspective if I wanna draw characters? I already know how vanishing points work.

[Anonymous No.3978606]

Made this as fast as I could, think it was a bit under an hour, didn't use a reference at all for the pose, came from my head, how'd I do?

[Anonymous No.3978608]

>>3978606
P.S. the hands are super shit and I'm aware of it, haven't done much hands studies.

[Anonymous No.3978621]

>>3978602
it's not as rigid as for manmade objects, but yes, it applies to people too
construction makes drawing figures much easier and you can't break figure into primitive forms if you don't how to draw these forms properly
> I already know how vanishing points work
do you know how to multiply, divide, rotate, tilt and mirror planes and curves in perspective correctly? how to make a cube? how to rotate forms? because these are part of perspective too

[Anonymous No.3978622]

>>3978520
Hey, fellow boxfag.
I've only been doing it for about a week now so don't take me as a great source, but I've been finding improvement from hyper focusing on how my joints are moving/not moving.
Before making a line or ghost a line I make sure the joints I don't want moving are firmly locked and then try and memorize the way my joint is moving when I feel like my ghosting has me on target.
Once your pen is down you just have to go, follow through with the movement you've memorized and if you miss you miss.
Right now I'm really struggling to learn how to memorize how to stop on point, as most of my lines are going past or not quite making it to target.

[Anonymous No.3978623]

Trying to do more perspective work, what can I improve? Sorry about shit quality I'm not at home near my PC

[Anonymous No.3978625]

Trying to get started drawing saw a bunch of people saying perspective and the basics were needed first. What can I do to improve? Shit quality because I'm not at home near PC.

[Anonymous No.3978633]

>>3978622
Does anyone know how the discord and reddit communities are for Draw a box. Is it worth it to get involved or is there somewhere else I should go to for advice?

[Anonymous No.3978648]

Hey /beg/, been working on fun with a pencil for a while, and I have a bunch of questions you could help me with:


1. What's a good way to practice proportions? (I've been measuring with the pencil method so far, but it's not part of the book)

2. How can you stop thinking with symbols after you construct a humanoid? (I find it really distracting when just trying to draw what I see)


3. Do you have any general advice you feel isn't mentioned enough for /beg/s like me? I'd be happy to listen.

And thank you so far for the help, really appreciate it!

[Anonymous No.3978649]

Hey /beg/, been working on fun with a pencil for a while, and I have a bunch of questions you could help me with:


1. What's a good way to practice proportions? (I've been measuring with the pencil method so far, but it's not part of the book)

2. How can you stop thinking with symbols after you construct a humanoid? (I find it really distracting when just trying to draw what I see)


3. Do you have any general advice you feel isn't mentioned enough for /beg/s like me? I'd be happy to listen.

And thank you so far for the help, really appreciate it!

[Anonymous No.3978651]

>>3978649
>2. How can you stop thinking with symbols after you construct a humanoid? (I find it really distracting when just trying to draw what I see)
Remember drawing that dude on chair upside down?
Do that

[Anonymous No.3978652]

>>3978553
2008 webcomic

[Anonymous No.3978655]

>>3978621
I've drawn cubes, but now when I think about it, maybe I need to work with vanishing points more. In fact I haven't even tried to do it without tools. By the way, where can I find some resources about construction? I can't find anything that applies it to objects and most info I find just stop at "draw these shapes endlessly till you get it"

[Anonymous No.3978657]

>>3978553
fucking zenos scum

[Anonymous No.3978658]

>>3978623
>>3978625
anon, please tell me that ruler is just happened to be there and you did these by hand…
>>3978633
subreddit seems to be really dead, no clue about discord
>>3978655
drawabox.com or "How to Draw" by Scott Robertson, either is fine

[Anonymous No.3978659]

>>3978231
The light direction and unclear the form is lost because of that. I can see you are a bit confused on what to do.

Here is an idea for a process on how to approach it I just made these process pictures up in like 20 minutes but maybe it will be helpful to demonstrate the thought process

Make a map about the surface area of the character like the head is obviously a ball the arms are obviously cylinders the hair is something in between even if it is not a solid object. Kind of like on 1)

Pick a single main light source and try to find which part will be illuminated and which part will be shaded I tried to show this on 2) and 3) to demonstrate. On 3) I turned off the base picture to show how it looks like without it maybe t will help. You do not have to be 100% accurate about it but at least find the main places, you can cheat a bit with the face and stuff we are not doing 100% photo realism after all.

On 4) add some lighter spots toward the light source and the darker spots that are towards the shadow area

On 5) I again turned off the base picture to show what I overpainted.

Did this help? Questions?

[Anonymous No.3978661]

>>3978658
>"How to Draw" by Scott Robertson
It looks like he teaches technical drawing instead of artistic drawing though
>Draw a Box
I ain't falling for the 250 boxes meme

[Anonymous No.3978664]

>>3978649
Forgot the 4th point, sorry:

4. How do you increase the speed at which you draw?

Does speed come with time, or is it something you deliberately have to practice?

[Anonymous No.3978667]

hjvghfjhf

[Anonymous No.3978672]

>>3978661

Enjoying being bad then

[Anonymous No.3978673]

>>3978651
Are you suggesting that I should draw upside down after the construction?
Won't that make it worse?

[Anonymous No.3978675]

>>3978661
>It looks like he teaches technical drawing instead of artistic drawing though
that doesn't matter, you can break human body in the same cubes, spheres and cylinders as car or jet or whatever else
>I ain't falling for the 250 boxes meme
that's the only meme about that course, his exercises are still useful

[Anonymous No.3978678]

>>3978673
Short answer is that drawing upside down will cause your brain to recognize the lines that make up the face and body instead of just processing the face and body itself. You should go over to the artbook thread and download "Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain" and give it a read in your free time.

[Anonymous No.3978680]

>>3978678
I'll go do that right away, thanks for the help!

[Anonymous No.3978685]

I'm so inconsistent but i feel like im making progress at least, think its time to look into features over just the general head so that I don't make adjustments based on terrible features.
Theres a lot of issues here, but I feel that they could be adjusted without too much pain with some ref or a goal image rather than just picking an angle and drawing the head.

[Anonymous No.3978724]

>>3978685
rightmost one is alright
keep grinding

[Anonymous No.3978731]

>>3978675
Enjoy being bad, anon.

[Anonymous No.3978764]

am i going in the right direction or nah?

[Anonymous No.3978767]

>>3978633
>Reddit for advice
Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds? You draw some trash with the pen in your mouth and eyes closed they will praise for it.

[Anonymous No.3978776]

>>3978490
Drawing the eyes as a plain oval with square eyebrows. Bro did you read the book. Anyways looks fine except for eyes and nose.

[Anonymous No.3978778]

>>3978496
Go buy books or download PDFs.

[Anonymous No.3978780]

>>3978661
Technical vs artistic ever maybe hit you that being a good technical drawer could help your artistic drawing whatever the fuck that means.

[Anonymous No.3978782]

>>3978667
Something’s off about cammy I think you need to work on gesture.

[Anonymous No.3978783]

>>3978764
I guess

[Anonymous No.3978786]

>>3978767
Reddit is the worst. You get downvoted for giving honest and realistic feedback. Not even mean spirited just any comment that isn't praise will be downvoted. There is no regard for people speaking from experience.

You have to protect those efeels at all cost on reddit. Fucking eplebs. Yuck..

[Anonymous No.3978790]

>>3978764
that is textbook example of symbol drawing anon
do a picasso exercise, stop drawing from memory, look at how real people look like

[Anonymous No.3978797]

>>3978790
>b-but looking at something when drawing bad
>doodle from imagination good

[Anonymous No.3978805]

>>3978797
You can draw anything from imagination if you understand shapes in 3d.

[Anonymous No.3978811]

>>3978805
My visualization is crap and I can only create anime in my head

[Anonymous No.3978813]

>>3978805
The best way to understand how to draw shape and form in 3D is to practice that skill from drawing everything from life. You don't always have access to live models so reference photos are the next best thing.

Understanding how to draw form in 3D and in perspective is only half drawing from imagination if you want to be really good at it. Knowing WHAT you're drawing comes from your memory and knowledge of how things really look...Observing things and studying them via drawing is the foundation that imaginative drawing is built upon.

Case in point, the people are incredibly good at drawing from imagination also have incredibly good observational drawing skills, artists like James Gurney or Karl Kopinski.

[Anonymous No.3978815]

>>3978805
that's only half of the truth

[Anonymous No.3978817]

>>3978815
What do you mean, this is a highly accurate master piece from an established artist?

[Anonymous No.3978819]

>>3978782
thanks, yea no kiddin. new to drawing bodies.

[Anonymous No.3978822]

>>3978805
>>3978805
The best way to understand how to draw shape and form in 3D and in perspective is to practice that skill from drawing everything from life. You don't always have access to live models so reference photos are the next best thing.

Understanding how to draw form in 3D and in perspective is only half of what drawing from imagination takes if you want to be really good at it. Knowing WHAT you're drawing comes from your memory and knowledge of how things really look...Observing things and studying them via drawing is the foundation that imaginative drawing is built upon because it builds that visual library to pull from when you do sit down and draw completely from memory and imagination.

The rest is just practice. But becoming proficient at drawing what you see comes first. For example, can you realistically expect yourself to draw a great looking character from imagination if you can't really draw something similar very well from what you see?

Case in point, the people who are incredibly good at drawing from imagination also have incredibly good observational drawing skills, artists like James Gurney, Karl Kopinski, Alex Ross, etc. But having good observational drawing skills alone doesn't mean you'll be good at drawing from imagination if you never practice it, ie Proko.

[Anonymous No.3978828]

>>3978790
Damn, i am looking at real people one of my drawing was chuck lidell

I cant really draw eyes nose and mouth in detail quite yet

[Anonymous No.3978870]

I tried

[Anonymous No.3978871]

>>3978870
Fuck forgot image

[Anonymous No.3978881]

first try at anime style
forgive the awful terrible anatomy im trying i swear

[Anonymous No.3978886]

>>3978881
first try at anime style
forgive the awful terrible anatomy im trying i swear
forgot to resize >>3978881

[Anonymous No.3978891]

>>3978147
why do you need a tripcode to do that?

[Anonymous No.3978901]

i tried doing loomis heads. i cant seem to get details right though and im not sure how to.

[Anonymous No.3978914]

>>3978901
Pretty good for a first try anon!
As for details, just work on individual facial features in isolation. Spend some time just drawing eyes, or justdrawing mouths, without the rest of the head, and practice them until you get them to a level you're happy with.

[Anonymous No.3978924]

Anyone got this reference?

[Anonymous No.3979010]

I feel like I'm improving so slowly.

Always thought I was decent at drawing but now that I'm actively putting work in practicing fundamental skills I just see flaws and flaws. It's like I'm regressing instead of progressing.

Anyone relate to this feel?

Pic related is a 10 minute figure I did from imagination.

[Anonymous No.3979017]

>>3978658
I'm legit trying here anon. Tell me what's wrong with what I'm doing?

[Anonymous No.3979052]

>>3978606
Now do one where you use a reference and take your time.

[Anonymous No.3979074]

>>3979017
the point of exercise you are doing is to improve your quality and precision of your lines, to train your muscle memory
it's meaningless if you don't draw them by hand, any monkey can take a ruler and connect dots

[Anonymous No.3979083]

>>3979052
but where do I find a ref like this?

[Anonymous No.3979096]

>>3979083
it's pretty common position in porn, it doesn't have to be exact angle
alternatively you can use DesignDoll or VRoid to set up 3D models in any pose you want

[Anonymous No.3979113]

>>3979074
I was just on another board where I did the lines free hand and was told to use a ruler. But when I free hand them I can't get the perspective right. Obviously that comes with practice though.

[Anonymous No.3979121]

>>3979113
ruler is okay to use when you are drawing complex manmade objects, not when you're developing your fine motor skills

[Anonymous No.3979134]

Made her an amazonian cyborg.

[Anonymous No.3979200]

>>3978764
ears too small and the eyes are too close of the eyebrows

[Anonymous No.3979203]

Hi beg, looking for a practice partner to master art fundamentals digitally, I draw cubes, cones and shade it for the most part also organic forms.

Discord
untgo#7937

[Anonymous No.3979214]

>>3978797
Who are you quoting?

>>3978901
They look good, keep practicing anon. The ones on the bottom are already much better than those on top.

>>3979010
You must get out of your comfort zone and you'll see crazy gains. I promise.

[Anonymous No.3979221]

I just finished this sketch, any mistakes I should improve on guys?

[Anonymous No.3979223]

>>3978776
>Drawing the eyes as a plain oval with square eyebrows. Bro did you read the book.
I'm sorry for that mistake, thanks for pointing it out.

[Anonymous No.3979229]

>>3979221
his tit muscles need to spread apart.

[Anonymous No.3979232]

Picking random objects from my room to practice. Any thoughts? I feel like some parts are bigger than they need to be.

[Anonymous No.3979235]

>>3979232
I can't tell what it is.

[Anonymous No.3979236]

>>3979235
A puzzle.

[Anonymous No.3979240]

>>3979235
>>3979236
similar to this, but not exactly this one

[Anonymous No.3979246]

>>3978062
This has very good energy

[Anonymous No.3979256]

>>3979232
pretty good

[Anonymous No.3979257]

>>3979221
>>3979229

[Anonymous No.3979261]

>>3979257
Note where the arms connect and think about what the shoulders are doing.

Furthermore, loomis. And stop drawing furshit.

[Anonymous No.3979265]

Will be finsihing the last 4 sketches I posted while doing real life studies to practice rendering, even if mine is complete dogshit. Any shading tips?

[Anonymous No.3979267]

>>3979265
Think about where the light is coming from, extrapolate where the light should fall on the body. Always keep it consistent.

[Anonymous No.3979268]

>>3979229
>>3979257
>>3979261
Huge thanks for the help! You certainly made it better
Don't worry, Im still currently going through loomis and I draw anime girls too

[Anonymous No.3979277]

>>3978058
Listen man, your drawing is lacking EVERYTHING and going into detail would be a chore to type up. The best thing you can do is study and read books for beginners, do some basic exercises.
How about it, can you draw basic spheres, cylinders and boxes at various angles first? Try it if you want and post your results.

[Anonymous No.3979278]

>>3979277
Not >>3978056 by the way.

[Anonymous No.3979284]

>>3979232
>>3979240
This is good object to use construction on since it's all parallel lines. A little bit of line weight would go a long way in clarifying the form as well.

[Anonymous No.3979300]

>>3979265
Well this isn’t going well.

[Anonymous No.3979302]

>>3979300
Reference used.

[Anonymous No.3979325]

>>3979300
You seem to have a decent understanding of form but you need to work on proportion. Gestures are your friend.

[Anonymous No.3979327]

>>3979300

I just wrote three paragraphs of advice for you, but then I deleted it because I already gave you some once and you ignored it. NGMI will be your middle name until you start taking good advice from people.

[Anonymous No.3979330]

>>3979325
To clarify. The head is too big, legs are too short, and the arms are too long. Look for easy landmarks and comparisons for the things that you struggle with. For example, the fingertips should rest about half way between the hip and the knee.

[Anonymous No.3979334]

>>3979284
Thanks. I'll add it later, knew something was missing

[Anonymous No.3979338]

>>3979325
>>3979330
Thanks. I feel like the proportions start to warp when I try to capture the gesture, gonna practice that. Didn't really get used to drawing with landmarks in mind because never remember all of them.

>>3979327
Which post was it anon? Are you the one who kept talking about the flat eyes thing or something else?

[Anonymous No.3979347]

Taking a break from the loomis grind, shat out this dragon thingy and kinda struggling with the lower legs. Thinking of trying to take it all the way so crits appreciated. Also no idea about how to do the background or if i even should.

[Anonymous No.3979375]

Somebody commented that I relied too heavily on lines and not enough on values. I sort of see what he means but how should I fix it? This was just a drawing I did of my dad from life. I don't have a reference photo. What would you suggest I do to improve this drawing now that he's not sitting in front of me anymore?

[Anonymous No.3979376]

>>3979347
Look at some animal anatomy. Dragon legs are usually a combination of mammal like leg with bird like feet.

[Anonymous No.3979377]

>>3979375
His beard and hair are white btw. Like Santa Claus.

[Anonymous No.3979384]

>>3979246
thanks anon! :DD

[Anonymous No.3979386]

Did some plants the other day. I couldn't for the life of me come up with intersecting shapes/forms from imagination but I think I can simplify objects into basic shapes when looking at a reference, so I decided to jump straight into drawing things.

Wasn't sure were to add highlights but tried not to over do them.

[Anonymous No.3979395]

Studying value is hard and makes me sad

[Anonymous No.3979396]

what happened to that guy that just drew stuff like this >>3979386 it was super super clean but he just draw that
someone has his blog? i wanna see how his work is now

[Anonymous No.3979397]

So what are some good books if i want to learn how to draw mecha?
Or should I just study engineering?

[Anonymous No.3979443]

>>3979375
Scale the body bigger. And he looks like a young man with a fake beard

[Anonymous No.3979447]

does my art style look too weird?

[Anonymous No.3979461]

>>3979327
Watch out everyone! We've got a badass over here!

[Anonymous No.3979462]

>>3978659
This is awesome, thank you so much. I've never been good with shading so this is really useful! Honestly I cant thank you enough for this :D

[Anonymous No.3979467]

>>3979447
Leave /beg/

[Anonymous No.3979479]

>>3979300
Did a redraw, can’t tell if this is any better or not.

[Anonymous No.3979482]

>>3979479
Are you trolling dude? (I think so because you use the exact kid proportions of loomis). Otherwise, read some fucking loomis, geez.

[Anonymous No.3979491]

>>3979479
Shit, the foot is still fucked, the shoulders are mangled and I screwed the gesture by making the figure lean forward too much.
>>3979482
Kid proportions? As in this figure looks younger than the ref or this was drawn by a child? ((It’s probably the latter.))

[Anonymous No.3979503]

>>3979479
It is better, you made the proportions and the rib cage a bit more accurate than the last one but the lower part of the body is bigger on the ref and the head is smaller. also if you notice the woman on the ref is doing the "contraposto" stance which was used i n art since the renaissance, look this up it can be helpful to familiarize yourself with it. She is lifting her left heel up from the ground that knee is bent while the other one is straight because it has to support the body's weight. This hint of movement is somehow missing from your piece, the right leg doesn't seem to be straight and the food that is being lifted up doesn't really convey the stepping movement either, granted it is not an easy posture.

Did this help?

[Anonymous No.3979507]

>>3979491
>>3979503
This is a samefagging. Has to be.

[Anonymous No.3979520]

>>3979491
The figure is barely five heads high, which constitutes kid proportions. Actually measure out the head to body height ratio of the subject you are drawing, then you can start drawing. With a photo ref this is easy to do although irl models will require a good eye

[Anonymous No.3979527]

>>3979503
Thanks. I already understood the part where she lifts her heel and shifts weight but I didn't really notice that the right leg was straightened. The receding perspective of the knee kinda threw me off.

>>3979507
How come?

[Anonymous No.3979528]

>>3979520
Ok, just noticed myself that the head is still too big. Drawing my own characters really kinda warped my perception of the head to body ratio.

[Anonymous No.3979537]

>>3979443
he's very underweight because he's sick. i know it looks off but sadly those are the correct proportions. any thoughts on my original question?

[Anonymous No.3979551]

>>3978115
Youre drawing as if shes a cardboard cutout. Gotta draw the forms mang.
I got recommended "marks drawing tutorials" on yt a while back when I had a similar problem and his little series on construction really helped me out

[Anonymous No.3979583]

eating spaghetti

[Anonymous No.3979614]

Why do people recommend Loomis' Fun With Pencil for beginners instead of Robertson's How to Draw?
His book is way more clear and focuses more on fundamentals from quick check

[Anonymous No.3979631]

>>3979614
is it overwhelming for begs i think

[Anonymous No.3979672]

what should I do to check my own skill level?

[Anonymous No.3979684]

>>3979672
drawing out of your comfort zone

[Anonymous No.3979685]

>>3979614
because even if loomis methods and exercises can be incomprehensible to some when followed to the letter, he has a lot of good ways of thinking that he repeats over and over. he also makes the reader realize how important little shit is that seemed trivial at first, like the way you grip a pencil or thinking of the pencil as an extension of yourself.
And after all of that, if even that still goes over your head or you wish to ignore it, even mindlessly copying loomis heads or sketches teaches you. it is still able to teach you because you aren't losing much more than copying a photograph. his work is of that high a caliber.

[Anonymous No.3979689]

Is it flat? Am I in the right path to get out from flat drawing?

[Anonymous No.3979694]

>>3979689
You're worried about the wrong thing, like too many people who frequent the /beg/ thread. Just keep drawing, and try to use reference for now, that pose doesn't look very natural. Or if you did use reference, try to break it down in smaller steps and refine your construction/linework before you jump into rendering

[Anonymous No.3979697]

>>3979689

[Anonymous No.3979705]

moving onto traditional

[Anonymous No.3979711]

perspective

[Anonymous No.3979718]

>>3979689
if ur worried about flatness, ur on the right path in terms of using lights and shadows

but use them more consistently. for ex., there's lights on the OUTSIDE of his forearm but the INSIDE of his bicep. remember that light (usually) comes from only one direction

[Anonymous No.3979719]

>>3979718
depth begins in the line work

[Anonymous No.3979722]

>>3979694
Thanks. I am going to study from reference. I didn't use reference for that drawing, I am an absolute beg[1 month] trying to visualize 3d objects and put them together.
>>3979697
I changed the legs, Pic related.

[Anonymous No.3979726]

>>3979722
Forgot the pic.

[Anonymous No.3979739]

I have no excuses
pls tell me how to get better

[Anonymous No.3979758]

>>3979726
you draw like youre taking a sheet of plastic and binding it to the construction anon

vilppu and hampton should help you a lot in your construction as well as finishing up the figure. needs more form feeling desu

[Anonymous No.3979761]

>>3978724
Thanks man, I did 2 more heads after that but hand started to hurt so went to bed, I have a few different head constructions in mind and they tend to become a mixed bag when I do a new head, I'm going to keep doing them but now I've started on the features so I'll just practice while placing them and then reread the constructions again afterwards to polish.

I'm currently using the book specifically on head/face from the hitokaku guy, I did loomis a little before but I felt like there was something missing so I'm gonna revist him afterwards.
I definitely feel like i can draw things better just using a pencil for now, I don't have to fight with the thoughts of is it just me being shit or is it the hardware/software (it is just me, but now I don't have to think about it).

[Anonymous No.3979786]

I got to the page in Fun with a pencil where you draw the host guy.

Did I do any good? I need a rating out of 10.

[Anonymous No.3979787]

>>3978247
This shit is so bad, genuine cringe.

[Anonymous No.3979871]

fuck I've been too busy this past to practice drawing exercises.

[Anonymous No.3979880]

>>3978247
off yourself please

[Anonymous No.3980027]

had fun drawing ol asagi now back to loomis lemme get some critique real quick

[Anonymous No.3980029]

>>3979786
You don't need a rating out of ten, you need to draw the forms. Start with the ball and build out. You're not doing it right if youre just copying the final lines (inaccurately).

[Anonymous No.3980036]

>>3980027
The forehead is too small, left eye is too big and it's mismatched. Head seems a bit small. Ear is misplaced at this perspective.

It also needs at least one more value to pop out

That being said, it's a cute piece of art. Loe how much she is enjoying her food. Nice job.

[Anonymous No.3980053]

Extremely quick sketch, could i get a redline on how to make it feel more naturally energetic?

[Anonymous No.3980071]

>>3979528
start drawing other characters. or better yet, just draw from life

[Anonymous No.3980074]

when do i move from learning the head? do i need to perfect it before moving to upper body then lower body etc?

should i learn them all together or separately? (ie gestures, backgrounds, animals etc.)

[Anonymous No.3980076]

>>3980074
Just become a portrait artist

[Anonymous No.3980095]

>>3980074
>do i need to perfect A before i move on to B
the answer is always NO
learning process is a circle, not a straight path

[Anonymous No.3980106]

>>3980074
Learn gestures. Dynamic posing is an extreme asset and will make all of your art look much better.

[Anonymous No.3980124]

>>3980106
do you have any good tutorial recommendations on where to start wtih dynamic posing?

[Anonymous No.3980131]

>>3980053
change weight line distribution

[Anonymous No.3980137]

>>3980131
Could you explain more anon?

[Anonymous No.3980141]

>>3979711
1. Read perspective made easy
2. In this case put your vanishing points futher apart

[Anonymous No.3980157]

>>3980137
>>3980131
>>3980053
read the pages
see why just by rotating the sketch it looks more dynamic

>Figure Drawing - Michael Hampton

[Anonymous No.3980174]

Am I kawaii desu?

[Anonymous No.3980179]

>>3980174
kawai enough how about mine anon?

[Anonymous No.3980180]

Got any insights, /beg/?

[Anonymous No.3980182]

>>3980106
As for what gesture drawing exercise is and what is its purpose, here is a site that explains it in detail a few with short videos for demonstration.
https://drawpaintacademy.com/gesture-drawing/

Once you get through that you could try timed practice from photos at the quickposes website.

good luck Anon!

[Anonymous No.3980183]

[Anonymous No.3980184]

>>3978815
Proko is a painter aka he can't draw shit by himself.

[Anonymous No.3980230]

>>3980182
thank you

[Anonymous No.3980239]

I think I should go back to drawing lines between points
Should I be practicing without rotating the canvas or with rotating?

[Anonymous No.3980246]

Did this in illustrator, actually have a degree in art, but it was mostly from 3d work, so drawing isn't my strong suit

[Anonymous No.3980249]

>>3980239
Jesus fuck. Put some effort in, you're larping.

[Anonymous No.3980250]

>>3980246
dogshit. Go through 'how to draw' by scott robertson then 'force' by by mike mattesi

[Anonymous No.3980253]

So there is like a million ways to do gesture, so is there a wrong way to do it?

[Anonymous No.3980257]

>>3980253
Not going fast enough, at least at first

[Anonymous No.3980298]

>>3980257
Nah going fast is a meme. Gestures are supposed to record information that will be useful to you later in the drawing process. It's not supposed to be abstract art, it's not supposed to be an outpouring of emotion, etc.
I guess you can take them as fast or slow as you need to, I don't see much of a point in going fast unless you're specifically challenging yourself to draw things fast though.

[Anonymous No.3980305]

>>3980239
looking at this drawing gave me autism

[Anonymous No.3980312]

>>3980298

The real reason for going fast isn't actually learning to draw fast but to get noobs to stop overthinking everything

[Anonymous No.3980314]

I have no idea whether I am managing to capture gesture correctly, I'm trying to do this stuff quickly so I don't go too detailed.
Any tips?

[Anonymous No.3980317]

>>3980314
you are doing silhouettes my dude

[Anonymous No.3980319]

>>3980317
Well shit

[Anonymous No.3980328]

>>3980253
>>3980314
did any of you read the sticky?
there is plenty of books talking about gesture

read about it, understand the utility and how the teachers do it, then try


>>> if you don't know where to get the books go to >>3964424
> Figure Drawing - Michael Hampton
> Vilppu Drawing Manual

[Anonymous No.3980362]

I know her anatomy is off but I cant tell where to begin with fixing it even.

[Anonymous No.3980363]

>>3980362
Loomis. You’re thinking in 2d and memeing 3D with your half assed tones. Read How to draw by Scott Robertson

[Anonymous No.3980399]

>>3980362
first thing is get rid of the tumblr nose

[Anonymous No.3980444]

Wanna practice more with dip pens but damn do I wish the paper thats usable with them was cheaper. Getting a hang on different strokes using a G nib by the way.

[Anonymous No.3980453]

>>3978014
>Tfw finally beginning to think in 3d shapes and construct features in actual living form.

T-thanks loomis.

[Anonymous No.3980494]

>>3980362
> asymmetrical face
> wtf is that nose
> pit of the neck/clavicle is wrong shape
> need to study hands
> work on bone landmarks

[Anonymous No.3980525]

Hey guys, this is a rough sketch but could I get some help on the torso/shoulder area? I like my art having a cartoonish look but I think the area I'm talking about could be better.

I know I've removed a few bits of anatomy like the iliac crest and stuff from the pelvis area.

[Anonymous No.3980540]

>>3978511
Her facial features look pasted on, study the structures of the face

[Anonymous No.3980541]

>>3978606
I like how her left nip is super high

[Anonymous No.3980544]

>>3978661
Scott knows what he's doing man

[Anonymous No.3980553]

when I get to this point I'm done for the day

[Anonymous No.3980554]

>>3980544
The rest of us don't.

[Anonymous No.3980556]

>>3980525
It feels like you copied elements that you enjoy seeing from other artists without an understanding of why or how they implement them. Case in point the hips and legs. They’re as thick as they are long, which is good in theory but you gotta learn how to properly construct legs first (her kneecaps are uneven despite standing up straight). Same with breasts and upper chest, as currently her midriff has nothing to connect to behind the breasts.

[Anonymous No.3980625]

>>3979491
Keep at it man. Keep pushing yourself.

[Anonymous No.3980626]

>>3979739
Do some Loomis for a few months just figuring out construction.
While you do this do drawabox to work on your linecontrol. Do the excercises up until 250box and then repeat them.
Then move on to Hampton's contruction book to get a better idea of construction and proportions.
While doing this look up videos by Sinix and other youtubers on how to get facial features to look like proper features and not just symbols of those features.

Take this all with a grain of salt because I'm /beg/ as fuck.

[Anonymous No.3980678]

>>3980556
You're right, I use references and my anatomy isn't top notch. I try to keep a balance of fundies and doing stuff I like, but I know there's a long road of mistakes ahead lol.

[Anonymous No.3980703]

What can I add improve go hard

[Anonymous No.3980709]

>>3979300
Head is too big, when drawing with references pick a part of the body and measure off of it to get a better idea of how large things should appear IE using heads to measure the length of different sections. For example the model is about 7 heads and your drawing is more like 5.

[Anonymous No.3980712]

>>3980703
Noodle torso, inconsistent proportions, heads are too big. Study figures, focus on skeletal anatomy, stop chicken scratching.

[Anonymous No.3980730]

What do I need to improve on? Currently trying to inch my way over from doing straight up studies to using the poses to draw aesthetically pleasing curves and booty.

[Anonymous No.3980735]

>>3980053
Contrapposto

[Anonymous No.3980737]

>>3980730
Good shit Anon, looks nice!

[Anonymous No.3980754]

Dunno about flowers, still tried tho.
I'm done with this one, should go back to practice little things before starting something timetaking.

[Anonymous No.3980797]

>>3980735
w-what does this mean anon

[Anonymous No.3980799]

>>3980797
>>3980735
Misread your post, my mistake! Thank you anon

[Anonymous No.3980822]

Oh god, how the fuck do I do this angle, everything I thought I knew about construction, I don't know how to apply from an above perspective. All of my drawings have been looking flat, so I tried to do a more dynamic perspective but I dont know where to start.

[Anonymous No.3980830]

>>3980180
I really like it mayne. You got a blog or insta?

[Anonymous No.3980832]

>>3978115
I recommend trying to draw her body as 3d shapes like boxes and spheres. The way you did it, you're basically just guessing. Vilppu will teach you.

[Anonymous No.3980839]

>>3980754
you obviously don't put much effort in your figure studies and that ruins the whole thing
blushes on nose and cheeks are way overdone so they look tumblr-tier
wide mouth isn't really feminine, it doesn't fit on cute face like this, but this one is just my opinion

[Anonymous No.3980847]

>>3980754
Is the hair suppose to be vines or roots? Is she suppose to be laying on water?

also, like the other said >>3980839, practice figure drawing (body) and still life drawing (objects and nature)

[Anonymous No.3980855]

>>3980822
idk if this will help or even if it is correct, but i tried

[Nosebro No.3980863]

>>3980855
i disagree.

[Anonymous No.3980869]

>>3980797
>w-what does this mean anon
Contrapposto is nothing special or magical really, it is an old Italian word used for a body posture that "holding the body weight on one leg" which is a popular human posture for sculptures and painting because of its dynamism. It usually has the shoulders and hips bent to the opposite direction too. I advise you look it up there are plenty of examples for it in art and there is a lot material about it.

For example the model on the photo at >>3979302 is also doing it.

[Anonymous No.3980871]

>>3980855
I appreciate the try, I might just give up and go for an easier angle, here's my earlier failed attempt.
I tried making the head and shoulders big and make the body smaller as it goes down to make it look like a high angle, but as I'm instinctively structuring is as a normal head on angle, it just looks retarded.

[Anonymous No.3980890]

>>3980839
>>3980847
Hair is supposed to be dreads and thanks for the advices, I really felt i was struggling with it, I tried to draw a face more childish with a fantasy style.

I'll go back to figure drawing then, keep grinding.

[Anonymous No.3980902]

>>3980730
lewd

[Anonymous No.3980920]

>>3978014
Not sure why, but this shitty image I drew carries a lot of weight, /beg/.

[Anonymous No.3980924]

>>3978014
Ignore the mouth its fucking terrible, is this wolf face.jpg? I'm trying my 3d construction I tried cone construction I need to know if it worked, if it didn't I'll try a different method to get the muzzle right.

[Anonymous No.3980927]

>>3980863
sorry for disappointing you nosebro
i did it once again with bit more effort, does this look better?

[Anonymous No.3980928]

>>3980927
That looks better, definitely, I'll get back to drawing it in the morning, thanks

[Anonymous No.3980935]

>>3980920
Did you read that book for your GCSE lit? My little brother did.
you havent drawn any construction. If you want to draw something that looks decent, plan it out first

[Anonymous No.3980946]

>>3980928
well i guess i still didn't put enough effort in it since i already see mistakes, right elbow should be pointing sideways and left leg is way off
i would do it for the third time but i should go to sleep
good night to you anon

[Anonymous No.3980955]

>>3980946
Sweet dreams anon, thanks for the help

[Anonymous No.3980959]

tfw got realyyl drunk 3rd day in a row and cant focus on anything ehh im neveer gonna mkei t

[Anonymous No.3980979]

>>3980959
not with that attitude you're not. try tapping into your emotional reserve and draw while enjoying your preferred substance. godspeed anon

[Anonymous No.3980988]

>>3980924
Your muzzle wasn't actually that bad, it was just too big in my opinion. all I really did was shorten the wolfs right eye, the muzzle, and lengthen the left eye a little. I'd recommend Sycras form critique series, as its helping me get better. also study the wolf anatomy by drawing it for like 1 or 2 hours as it can really help.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL88584D90667CCEDE

[Anonymous No.3980994]

need some help

[Anonymous No.3981004]

>>3980988
Trust me anon, going from wolfface to just a little too long (a bad habit I've yet to shake) is all good I thought there was something off about the right eye you'll notice there's a line doing fuck all near her pupil, that was going to be the new muzzle bridge, I just forgot to erase the iris to the right of it. Thanks for the advice anon, I'm already continuing to draw dogs wolves and foxes from real life and it's helping immensely compared to what I was drawing , loomis also helps like TONNES.

[Anonymous No.3981013]

trying to learn more about the figure

[Anonymous No.3981046]

>everything ends up fucking chicken scratch
>try to put down a more stable line, it ends up horribly misplaced
>practicing gestures; all the lines are either too thick or hairy as fuck
I don't think I'm gonna make it, bros.

[Anonymous No.3981048]

would someone be able to draw construction shapes over this pose?

I can't seem to picture it in my head, I'm trying to draw something similar to it.

[Anonymous No.3981055]

>>3981048
How would that help you, I'll guide you but I won't draw it for you, draw circles on all the joints circle the head box the torso and smaller box the hips and circle the tits, vwallah. OH and read the sticky.

[Anonymous No.3981064]

>>3981055

I don't have anyway to draw over it on my computer, unless i just use paint.

and I did read the sticky.

I just can't seem to get the placement of everything correctly on paper. I'm starting with the hip area and the body proportions are wildly off. I'll post a picture in a moment.

[Anonymous No.3981098]

>>3981064

Probably the best drawing I have of it so far

[Anonymous No.3981101]

>>3981098
why don't you trace circles and boxes over the original picture in order to get a good idea of the placement and proportions?

[Anonymous No.3981113]

>>3981101

that's what I'm asking someone to do for me.

I know I should be doing it myself, It would help a lot more if I did it myself of course, but, my printer is out of ink, and I don't really have a way to do it on my computer. I could try with Paint, which I'll probably end up doing after anyways, even if I'm not able to see construction shapes highlighted in the pose. I never really done anything with paint or digital drawing in general, so that's the reason that I went here first instead of doing that.

[Post Rater No.3981125]

>>3980363
Smartest post ITT

[Anonymous No.3981149]

>>3981046

how to stop chicken scratch:

>>> depending on the length of the line on the canvas you will use:
> fingers
> wrist
> elbow
> whole arm
> whole arm and body movement (like when people do graffiti)

>>> depending on how long and the position of the line on the canvas, you will need to rotate it so your stroke is more natural

>>> use C S I lines so the lines have more flow

>>> confident slightly wrong line > chicken scratch

[Anonymous No.3981156]

I’m practicing drawing figures from imagination without references. Can I get some feedback? I know the anatomy is bad but I’m working on improving it

[Anonymous No.3981202]

>tfw this is my level after 2 months
I just want to animate beavis n butthead style cartoons so i think I'm getting there lol

[Anonymous No.3981205]

>>3981149
Ok thanks, I'll practice that and definitely take that last point into account.

[Anonymous No.3981207]

>>3981156
Loomis' Figure Drawing for all it's Worth will help construct correct proportions from imagination. I'm still /beg/ so I can't help with anatomy.

[Anonymous No.3981212]

>>3981207
I’m using Hampton right now. Should I use that after?

[Anonymous No.3981221]

>>3981212
There's no harm in looking at Loomis, it will take you all of a couple hours at most to understand it. In general, knowing multiple ways of doing something is helpful.

[Anonymous No.3981230]

>>3980994
What do you want help with exactly?

[Anonymous No.3981232]

I've tried all fucking week
Ive learned the names of almost every muscle
I've learned where they're meant to sit on the Ulna and Radius
But every time I look at a picture of a fucking forearm
Im absolutely perplexed
I have no idea what the fuck anything is anywhere
I just dont understand
For the love of god help

[Anonymous No.3981238]

What do the /beg/gars think?

[Anonymous No.3981242]

>>3981232
>pic
for elbow bones

>(Uldis Zarins) Anatomy for Sculptors - Understanding the Human Figure
to understand the muscles

[Anonymous No.3981245]

>>3978014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByIMGhV3ITU

people should watch this video. I am reading loomis and when i went to his video it boosts my understanding of things. jesus i love this video and hate loomis doesn't explain this
does Michael Hampton explain this?

[Anonymous No.3981254]

>>3981230
the mistakes and how to improve on them

[Anonymous No.3981270]

I'm trying to draw a mannequin from imagination but without references, is it dumb?

[Anonymous No.3981274]

since the other thread got axed I'll be reposting.
Started trying gesture in my new tablet but it's hard as fuck, any way to improve this?

[Anonymous No.3981297]

1: I was warming up and this head came about so I tried to think about the planes from memory
2: I retraced my sketch with adjustments to see if it looks alright
3: didnt like the planes i drew around the nose and nose in general so tried to think about it
4: readjusted the nose based on new info from 3

It looks a little strange but its all made up on the fly to get something workable so I'm not sure if somethings greatly off or its just shoddily thrown together bits, Could be the neck stuff too as i just threw it on to try get rid of the disembodied floating head feel.

Any ideas lads or am I doing alright, fresh pair of eyes someone elses take on it would be great.

[Anonymous No.3981333]

>>3981297
Now that I've come away from it for a bit I really should have drawn in the far nostril and drew the nose as a whole, I tried to jump the gun and simplify on the fly now its just like hes got a huge snozz and weird angle or so

[Nosebro No.3981337]

>>3980927
i acknowledge your efforts

[Anonymous No.3981366]

hey check out this drawing I made.

[Anonymous No.3981374]

>>3981366
Nice colors and creative content but, I'd work on the facial structure and learn the basics.

[Anonymous No.3981378]

I should do some tutorials or something

[Anonymous No.3981392]

Is scott robertsons book good if i feel stuck and need to return to the basics?

[Anonymous No.3981403]

Am i too old? 23 but im only on the “learn anatomy more in depth stage” but whats the point if only gonna get good by the time im forty

If i had only started in my 15s like all the popular twiiter artists..

[Anonymous No.3981414]

>>3981403
ya

[Anonymous No.3981439]

Okay, so this is what I have so far.

Can someone help me make it look not so... weird? Lol I definitely need to go through the basics. I just want to do a gift for an artist friend.

The paper one the right is my first try. One on top is an outline of the base image I want to use as reference. The paper on the bottom left is my most recent attempt. I'm trying to have the character reading a book.

Any help would be super appreciated.

[Anonymous No.3981442]

>>3981048

This was the reference I was using. Hoping to have the same hip/leg placement. The character is flat chested though.

[Anonymous No.3981465]

>>3981403
Someone wheel out that list of current industry professionals that started ages at 23-30 or so.

If you start now you're still starting younger than people who made it to the top of the industry. That is, if you're really starting for real now and not just moping around. No guarantee on making it that far though, but still give it a shot if you really have an interest or want to take this sort of thing seriously.

[Anonymous No.3981490]

>>3981048
next time please do not post a pic for ants

[Anonymous No.3981491]

>>3981274
The movement is quite good Anon, try ease up on the chicken scratching as you get accustomed to your tablet. Good luck!

[Anonymous No.3981503]

>>3978664
yes

[Anonymous No.3981505]

>normally draw digitally at home
>doodling in class
>reach for non-existent undo button

[Anonymous No.3981517]

>>3981254
You are obviously a complete beginner right Anon? There is a lot to be improved on your picture but it is too long to start list them one by one because you will need some more understanding of form in general. Instead I would suggest you read the sticky and practice drawing the human form.

[Anonymous No.3981518]

>>3980830
Nah man, just drew it on a fucking phone. I was kinda wondering whether or not my skills detoriated greatly.

[Anonymous No.3981572]

>>3981013
Holy shitt anon been having memories about that dude u drew but cant remember his name or anything for weeks lol

[Anonymous No.3981576]

>>3981238
I think that you shouldn't sign your drawings at your level.

[Anonymous No.3981729]

I tried my hand at painting it just looks off to me and I can't seem to see what it is without wanting to redo the whole thing for the millionth time.

[Anonymous No.3981825]

Grinding out hamptons head construction.

Just quick sketches to see where I fuck up.

I need to pay more attentions to the placements of my segments and I have a habbit of making features far too small. Also round thick heads.

Can anyone help me see other flaws. Have you guys had the same problems? Are you still having them? How did you go with improving?

[Anonymous No.3981846]

>>3981729
Are you aware that the lineart is already a bit off which can damage the detailed painting? Or is the lineart intended?

[Anonymous No.3981852]

Something in the pose looks off and I can't quite put my finger on it despite flipping the canvas. It will look better once I had line weight and colour but I'd like to get some opinions on the pose while I can still change it.

[Anonymous No.3981859]

>>3981852
Torso too long, legs too short

[Anonymous No.3981874]

Anyone have any websites that have a collection of line art you can use to practice coloring?

[Anonymous No.3981892]

I went to fool around drawfagging funny things but I think I unironically loved it and improved my craft wtf I recommend doing the same. Draw what you like on /a/ as if you didn't care, I had 0 stress doing this since it wasn't "a real drawing" but it looks maybe better than my real pieces. It's like drawing without a burden upon you, since it's supposed to make people laugh.

[Anonymous No.3981894]

>>3981892
I liked this torso and the pose on the redhead. Also sorry for the resolutions but I can't resize it without ruining it.

[Anonymous No.3981909]

more loomis heads i did. learned a bit of expressions, but adding details to the faces eludes me.

[Anonymous No.3981910]

>>3981892
BUT IN THE END, IT HAS TO BE THIS WAAAAY

[Anonymous No.3981928]

>>3981846
I was not aware of it being off which would explain why I think the whole thing looks bad. I was more or less using it as a guide but I guess I could do without it.

[Anonymous No.3981933]

How do YOU practice construction, anon? Wanna know if I'm doing it right or not.

[Anonymous No.3981983]

>>3981491
yea this is what I'm thinking everytime I draw traditional, the chicken scratch becomes full throttle and I can't quite control. I heard that stabilizer might help though.

[Anonymous No.3982004]

>>3981572
He is the Kamen Rider! The first one

[Anonymous No.3982018]

>>3982016

new thread

[Anonymous No.3982020]

>>3981859
Is it better now?

[Anonymous No.3982202]

>>3981983
I meant draw digitally fuck

[Anonymous No.3982247]

>>3981825
Bottom center and the one slightly left from it have botched perspective. Try drawing cubes as bases for the heads. Practice cubes in various perspectives.

[Anonymous No.3982694]

Can I get a critique? It's an OC of mine, didn't draw the toes cause otherwise I would have spent the next 2 hours figuring it out, feet are my arch nemesis.

Mostly wondering if the gesture is alright, and everything is where it should be. I didn't use a reference, and if I self-crit, I think my abs and legs still got some ways to go.

[Anonymous No.3983179]

>>3982004
many thanks anon, now i can rest in peace finally <3