/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.3972698]

when you realized that soul matters more than skill?

[Anonymous No.3972714]

Bad question, pretty much everyone already knows that appeal matters more than anything.

[Anonymous No.3972720]

>>3972698
I'm willing to sell my soul for skill.

[Anonymous No.3972722]

>>3972720

[Anonymous No.3972726]

>>3972722
At least I'd know i'm the most skilled artist for all eternity.

[Anonymous No.3972736]

>>3972698
You just need to have a bit of humor if you just wanna make gag comics, no one reads those to appreciate the art. So if you were studying Loomis and Scott Robertson just to draw chubby stick figures, you wasted your time. But if you actually want to tell a story than the art needs to be somewhat competent. Berserk wouldn't work if it was drawn by this guy.

[Anonymous No.3972934]

>>3972698
if you really poured your soul into something, you would become good at it naturally because you wouldn't tolerate it to be bad.

[Anonymous No.3972937]

>>3972726
>the most skilled
implying your soul is worth that much

[Anonymous No.3972945]

>>3972736
where's the humor in the OP pic? it's literally just an observation

[Anonymous No.3972950]

>>3972698
Keep your politics out of /ic/

[Anonymous No.3973157]

>>3972698
Stop lying about things I want to be true

[Anonymous No.3973169]

>>3972934
I pour my entire soul into the things I draw and I have sacrificed everything to draw and I'm still fucking awful compared to your average professional.

[VC No.3973404]

"Soul vs. Skill"

Both matter equally.

Without soul there's nothing to communicate/express in your art.
Without skill you can't communicate with your art.

Create art with only soul and nobody gets it.
Create art with only skill and it is meaningless.

[Anonymous No.3973800]

wtf is soul even you pretentious faggots.

if something is good its good if its bad its bad. What a fucking pointless argument.

[Anonymous No.3974289]

>>3972937
This.
Also
>implying there won't be another retard to wish for it thus leveling it out.
Seek God anon

[Anonymous No.3974292]

i have no soul so i try to compensate with skill

inb4 do something else

you cant live from masturbation and vidya

[Anonymous No.3974373]

>>3973404
Well said.

[Anonymous No.3974418]

>>3973169
You just haven't tried hard enough yet.

[Anonymous No.3974507]

>>3972698
when i was like 11, what about you op?

[Anonymous No.3975211]

>>3973404
quality post

[Anonymous No.3975699]

>>3973404
Assuming you are able to put paint to canvas and we end up with an actual painting to be observed, it will communicate a message no matter what. There is no such thing as meaningless art, the painting itself is the message and the messenger.

[Anonymous No.3975707]

>autistic, also sociopath (diagnosed)
>have been told all my life it looks like there's nobody/no life behind my eyes or that I could be mistaken for a mannequin because I'm often so still and quiet

do I have a chance if I don't feel emotion the way others do?

[Anonymous No.3975754]

>>3975699
Have you ever been in a modern art gallery anon?

>>3975707
Yes but you need to go the skill based route. Get grinding.

[Anonymous No.3975964]

>>3973404
Wise anon.

[Anonymous No.3975968]

>>3972698
>talks about soul
>posts the most boring soulless garbage-tier reddit comic
At least post something with actual soul, anon

[Anonymous No.3975971]

>>3975699
Yet the message transmitted, it can go from something striking at first sight, transmitting grandiose ideas & reaching divinity (the fine art you see in the Louvre) or the lowest trash (just wank) / overly pretentious garbage (empty canvas with a white dot, symbol of the "individuality experienced by an artist during the creative process")...

[Anonymous No.3976365]

>>3975707
Can't see why not. Are you passionate about anything?
The main hurdle I can think of is the possibility that you're not introspective and can't convey what you do feel

[Anonymous No.3976583]

>>3973404
Any examples? All I can think of is ONE vs. Sakimi

[Anonymous No.3977109]

>>3975971
You're talking nonsense. I hope you realize that your personal metrics and tastes mean absolutely fuck all to everyone except yourself. Creating work is the only thing the artist needs to do, full stop. The work will speak for itself, what you take from it is your choice.

>muh modern art money laundering schemes
It sucks, we know. Not a reason for you to act like a disingenuous jackass either way, unless you're genuinely that limited.

[Anonymous No.3977158]

>>3975968
>in the realms of the unreal

this rabbit hole is too deep

[Anonymous No.3977410]

>>3975707
I'm not sure about autism, but as a sociopath, yes. I have a personality disorder with lots of similarities, complete lack of guilt, constantly being told I have zero empathy and instinctively resorting to manipulation and lying whenever beneficial, backstabbing friends only to shake things up. I'm too old to exaggerate or lie about it, so it is as it sounds. I have obviously never thought of combating it, but the awareness of me being "different" and unwanted, being called a monster gave me some very heavy existential thoughts. Now I'm mostly in peace with myself and don't consider myself an outcast, just focusing on my long-term plans (being able to freelance and becoming a forensic) enjoying lack of guilt and stress but it has definitely shaped me. If anything, this is the reason my art has "soul", even though I can't feel anything other than being relaxed, misery or desperation, I have developed a strong feeling of consciousness and try to convey it, even though most of my art is far from being dark, depressing or violent. "Soul", awareness, ability to convey is completely separate from the ability to feel.

[Anonymous No.3977416]

Soul is a fucking scam. It's just a cope it doesn't real.

[Anonymous No.3977591]

>>3972722
you should take heed and start buying as many souls as you can while you're still alive

[Anonymous No.3977627]

I wish that my work gets 1/10th as popular as Charles Shultz. He had skill,despite a lack of Loomis and all those Fine Art qualities folk obsess over in these boards.

But somehow,he impaled me in the Feels over and over.

[VC No.3977686]

>>3975699

When dealing with an 'expression of creativity', it is helpful to keep two things in mind:

- We are dealing with three distinct elements: the creator, the 'expression of creativity' itself, and the viewer.
(I'm using the term 'expression of creativity' to cover every possible creative endeavour, be it painting, sculpture, writing, music, dance, film, architecture, decoration, etc, etc.)

- The 'intent' that caused the expression of creativity.
('Intent' is the primary cause of motivation for this expression to be created.)

There is indeed no meaningless art, inasmuch that the viewer provides the actual meaning. Even if we take for example a landscape (where 'nature' is the creator), or random splotches of paint on a sidewalk because somebody was carrying leaking cans of paint, and there is no clearly identifiable 'intent', the viewer can still find meaning, but that meaning is fully supplied by them.

[Anonymous No.3977701]

>Im severely antisocial
>hate drawing humans
>hate doing landscapes
>still love drawing somehow
>draw overly expressive animals
>hate furries with a passion

What endgame is there for me?

[Anonymous No.3977731]

>>3977701
What do you LIKE to draw,then?

There is a market for EVERYTHING.

Walk by a display of greeting cards and you will realize that. Goofy cartoons,abstract designs,surreal imagery of all kinds. Try your hand at making mock cards. It will be both a learning experience and the better ones will start a portfolio for you.

[Anonymous No.3977734]

>>3972698
When I discovered Jojo's Bizarre Adventure.

[Anonymous No.3978942]

>>3977701
A furry artist.

[Anonymous No.3980304]

>>3977701
Are you actually antisocial or are you one of those fags who misuse the word to explain how they dont like social interactions.