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3963507 No.3963507 [Reply] [Original]

Is technique alone enough to make a piece of art impressive to you?

>> No.3963510

>>3963507
No.
The best polished turd still is a polished turd.
See some of the later Ruan Jia works.
He had some overrendered ugly chicks and boring compositions.
An ugly chick just doesn't catch attention for long enough to notice the details and shit.
>Fits glace
>Boring
>Next
And before you start bitching i love many of his older works.

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>>3963510
You aren’t kidding. What is this shit.

>> No.3963524

>>3963523
>>3963510
you mad you cant render? poor baby.

>> No.3963527
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>>3963523
It gets worse.

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>>3963527
literally a barbie

>> No.3963553

>>3963549
>>3963527
i love it.

>> No.3963555
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>>3963507
i know this is bait but for others reading, "technique alone" is not a thing which exists in a vacuum.

go to an improv group and watch people just blurt out ridiculous scenarios and take their dialog down unexpected paths.

Two things are required for them to do that. The first is skill in "improv alone" as you might call it. the skill they developed to blurt out anything without getting stuck, and make people laugh.

But the other skill is a mastery of the English language or whatever language you're speaking in.

Drawing technique is analogous to English.

If you can't draw a character from any angle, you are stuck with what you know how to do. You look at Kim Jung Gi's work, he is drawing these omniscient angles of shit floating there in space. I think people like him are actually able to draw exactly what they imagine.

The guy can draw absolutely anything from any angle, and perspective and any lighting. and because of that he can draw a shark in a dentists chair or an army of orks floating in space battling an army of tiger headed ninjas and people fucking in every known position. all in one drawing.

The example i just gave is not pic related, its one i just made up because i mastered english. but i can't draw it because i dont have the drawing technique down, you see.

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>>3963555
pic related example 2

>> No.3963559

>>3963557
its not that cyborg monks are the cleverest idea in the world. i think this is an homage to ghost in the shell. but he is so good that he knows how to convey cyborg monks and a matrix style bullet time gun showdown between female robot assassins.

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>>3963559
i do draw random ass shit like this. the other day i was thinking all day at work about a chimp with tentacle arms being shot at by helicopters. so i drew it just to get it out of my head. but this isnt how i envisioned it. i just don't have the skill to use a more interesting angle and put in the lighting.

>> No.3963562

>>3963555
OP here, I legitimately did not intend it to be bait. There's a reason why I pictured Madoka Kinoshita for the OP image: to be able to make acrylic look like digital art belies an incredible amount of technical painting skill. But, since all she really paints are cute anime girls, I never walk away from any of her pieces really appreciating the strength of her technical skill.

You're right though, I agree that technique doesn't exist in a vacuum. Often technique relies on the subject matter in order to be showcased properly.

>> No.3963594

>>3963562
Skill in rendering techniques is enough to impress the common untrained eye and people who have an undeveloped taste

That's why you have hundreds of successful "hyper-realism" artists who all really just do the same thing - spend tremendous amounts of time rendering to copy photographs 1:1. These guys are the true human printers because the goal is not to interpret the reference like everyone else even the academic realists, but reproduce the image of the photograph just in graphite or paint.

As I've gotten older and my taste in art has developed... Having great technique to achieve realistic rendering and detail is just the surface but that's what most people notice. Strong execution of composition (especially this!) values, form and structure, color palette, lighting, depth, perspective and atmosphere are all things that are equally important but the average person tends to only really notice them if they fucked up. I continuously look for these as I'm looking for art to judge for myself how much I like it.

A lot of intermediate artists use over-rendering as a crutch to mask a lot of their flaws.

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3965274

We need emotional content.

>> No.3965280

I prefer composition above all else. It's what usually evokes feelings for me.

>> No.3965287

>>3963594
>composition (especially this!) values, form and structure, color palette, lighting, depth, perspective and atmosphere
genuine question: is this not all considered technique? is technique merely hand-eye coordination and dexterity?

>> No.3965291

>>3965287
It's technique, but not necessarily related to drawing. You can do it even with arrangements of random objects on your table. I also don't usually see illustrators studying it.

>> No.3965369

>>3963507
>Hey guys can we get some outrage?
>Is "vague term" important for "vague purpose"
>pic unrelated, just something to make some people more mad

This is facebook level trash. the only difference that in fb someone would shill some product. OP is human trash, fuck you OP, you giant faggot, go die in a ditch.
keep the post high quality or gtfo

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3965451

I don't follow

>> No.3965468

>>3963560
Once again

If this was a show on adult swim I’d watch it.

>> No.3965624

>>3963507
I can respect it. I guess

>> No.3965655

>>3963510

But "polished turd" implies a lack of technical ability masked with rendering, not an example of technical proficiency.