beg/inner art thread, Time for despair Edition

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beg/inner art thread, Time for despair Edition Anonymous Sat Jun 8 04:14:49 2019 No.3963218 [Reply] [Original]

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the /draw/thread with our fundamental exercises.

Previous Thread: >>3959161

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, or you literally are never going to make it

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS:
1)
>screenshot the image and post that instead
2)
>change camera capture settings to something smaller
3)
>send to computer and resize in MSPaint

READ THE STICKY if you need guidance when you haven't even started.

Sticky: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

TRY TO GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK - many studies are left unreplied, which is a bit sad and can be quite demotivating for the people that try their best to improve, but are left directionless.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 04:26:15 2019 No.3963230 File: 1.37 MB, 1200x848, jojo_pose_2_gesture_tendency.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >implying it's never time for despair Anyway, I redid the drawing I made of the naked dude posing. What can I improve on?

Anonymous Sat Jun 8 04:38:47 2019 No.3963242
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>>3963218
To the anon that was on about construction I went back and redid some things from a previous picture using construction. I think the results speak for themselves first the old one.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 04:39:31 2019 No.3963245 File: 171 KB, 564x537, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'll stop doing cartoonish things and start grinding fundies soon, promise

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 04:39:48 2019 No.3963246 File: 1.23 MB, 2560x1920, IMG_20190608_094252.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3963242 And the new and improved I can finally see a little bit of progress,and that is it's own reward.

Anonymous Sat Jun 8 04:39:54 2019 No.3963247

>>3963230
pretty good, the face isnt great but it seems like a small drawing so thats understandable. i think you should work larger, but then i think that pretty much anyone working on physical media should work larger. Put it this way, when a digital artist is making a digital canvas, they dont make it 700 by 900 pixels and try to squeeze everything in, they go big so they can zoom in and out.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 04:55:55 2019 No.3963265 File: 261 KB, 1000x750, IMG_20190608_102112.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3963218 What do you think about it ?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 05:28:19 2019 No.3963283 >>3963265 I don't know what it's supposed to be, but it's gay as fuck.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 05:41:01 2019 No.3963298 Does anyone has a good method for improving line quality, especially on a wacom? I'm not seeing any progress in that area.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 05:43:11 2019 No.3963300 File: 320 KB, 1512x1606, IMG_20190608_003306_013.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] posted in previous, can I get some critique on anatomy n line weight etc? : D

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 05:44:43 2019 No.3963301 >>3963298 brush smoothing?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 05:50:34 2019 No.3963305 >>3963298 I use Lazy Nezumi Pro for when I'm doing linework. Works very well.

>>	Progress Sat Jun 8 06:53:24 2019 No.3963376 File: 925 KB, 875x686, imgettingbetter.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] ni-

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 06:57:11 2019 No.3963378 >>3963246 >>3963242 You did make some progress, yes. I would still advise you Anon to learn drawing animals and human in greater detail before you attempt to combine the two.

Anonymous Sat Jun 8 07:26:56 2019 No.3963406

>>3963230
>>3963230
it looks pretty good but you didnt really draw the sghadows as they are. you used a lot of poetic lisence. like that giant concave spot on his hip you didnt even draw., and that shadow doesnt continue all the way up his leg, the shadow moves fforward to follow the muscle contour but you didnt draw it that way. you got lazy and took short cuts. look at the shadow on the bottoms of the legs. you didnt even bother. look at the angle of his right hand. you drew right right calf thicker than his upper leg. a lot of sloppy mistakes. take your time, pay attention to detail.

Anonymous Sat Jun 8 08:16:37 2019 No.3963430
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im 99.99% sure this counts as begginer
how do i make her face look more like “i know you want it” and less like she’s getting tranquilised?
general comments/critique is appreciated as well

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 08:23:57 2019 No.3963436 File: 190 KB, 443x684, 574.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] practicing the basic head construction

Anonymous Sat Jun 8 08:30:58 2019 No.3963439

>>3963430
1. rotate your fucking image
2.there is absolutely no construction to this image
3. I can't find this through reverse search so ill assume your not trolling
4.With this "style" the eyes are seductive enough, its the mouth that needs work
5.The nose is way too high, the nasal bone meets just below the top of the eye of socket irl, in your image its nearly above the brow
6.why does the head just sort of fade to nothing?

7.Where are the shoulders?

Im literally done, theres like literally too much wrong with this that i cant even rn

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 08:57:16 2019 No.3963449 >>3963430 M8, no offense but practice the face first then concentrate on expressions, but since you asked, try making her wink with one eyebrow raised with a finger gesturing you to her.

Anonymous Sat Jun 8 09:00:03 2019 No.3963452
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>>3963218
the word despair instantly brings up danganronpa for me
a shitty drawing before I study things, clothing is something I need to learn but I also suck at the things I should learn before that though

>>3963439
for the rotation thing thats just fucky with phones, even if you rotate it manually it still stays like that sometimes

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 09:05:10 2019 No.3963455 File: 25 KB, 400x400, fug.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Low effort tits

Anonymous Sat Jun 8 09:06:57 2019 No.3963458

>>3963452
>for the rotation thing thats just fucky with phones, even if you rotate it manually it still stays like that sometimes
only if you dont know what your doing, theres solutions to the rotation problem

>>3963455
they seem more angled than the body

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 09:09:27 2019 No.3963459 >>3963458 You mean towards the viewer? I see, wasn't very careful with the head/shoulder/torso relations.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 09:10:45 2019 No.3963462 >>3963459 yeah, also dont add so much line where they meet the chest, makes then look saggy

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 09:12:51 2019 No.3963464 >>3963462 I agree, then again, low effort. With serious drawings I don't fuck around that much

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 09:13:42 2019 No.3963465 >>3963464 dont make excuses, also post art

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 09:16:43 2019 No.3963469 >>3963449 no offense taken, i posted it to be told what is shit, not to get pets >>3963439 thanks for the feedback, i’ll keep it in mind

Anonymous Sat Jun 8 09:21:07 2019 No.3963473

>>3963247
The sketch was on a pad that was about 1/4th the size of my biggest pad (12 x 18), so that might be the reason why.

>>3963406
>poetic license
You mean artistic license? Yeah, I see what you mean. I got focused on trying to get the tilt of the torso and I guess I neglected the other parts.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 10:14:14 2019 No.3963503 File: 648 KB, 2584x2000, I can't stop chicken-scratching on my tab.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Give me crits please. I'm not sure If I get the proportion right.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 10:17:53 2019 No.3963506 >>3963503 Bro, this piece is just a bruh moment from me. Like bro the proportions right in front of you how you gonna go and massacre them like that. How you gonna go and not know how to daw tits?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 10:30:22 2019 No.3963512 >>3963506 Okay, so the tits are supposed to be bit smaller and rounder, am I right? Anything else? Sorry if it seems like I want to get spooned real bad. I'm just stuck and dunno what to do.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 10:32:01 2019 No.3963515 I keep beating myself up over not being able to imagine clear pictures to draw out of my head. What's a way to improve visual memory and/or focus?

Anonymous Sat Jun 8 11:27:37 2019 No.3963551
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>>3963512
the whole constructiontions fucked man, like the ratios are wack. theres a lack of 3d, especially in the horns. the eye remind me of (jollibee?)

also the hair is all kinds of what, youve drawn it like theres wind but also not

>>3963515
you know the answers to study more irl stuff. you build a bank

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 11:33:04 2019 No.3963558 Going through Perspective Made Easy and it got me thinking that since learning a theory is one thing and executing it is another, are there proper ways to practice perspective. Seems like a lot is riding on knowing it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 11:56:57 2019 No.3963572 File: 690 KB, 1347x616, capture.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Any critique?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 12:01:38 2019 No.3963576 >>3963572 nostrils in the wrong spot everythings fucked post construction lines

Anonymous Sat Jun 8 12:31:31 2019 No.3963599
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Thanks to that anon from last thread for telling me about the problem with the way I attach the legs to the pelvis.
Do the legs start just below the asis points of the iliac crest? Are the landmarks right?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 12:34:00 2019 No.3963604 Anyone know a good hand tutorial for someone who wants to draw a basic idea of a hand?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 12:34:46 2019 No.3963605 File: 7 KB, 850x403, circles.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] first attempt at art

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 12:36:13 2019 No.3963608 File: 1.34 MB, 1125x1487, C798A52D-F8CC-4A37-AFB8-CF6B2834EA24.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3963599 Another attempt.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 12:37:20 2019 No.3963609 >>3963605 I don't think this will get you far as practice, anon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 12:39:50 2019 No.3963610 >>3963609 but i tried

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 12:50:08 2019 No.3963617 >>3963610 Try the right things.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 12:51:33 2019 No.3963620 File: 151 KB, 538x439, loomis.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] furniggers rise up

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 13:04:56 2019 No.3963631 >>3963620 No, Don't. Go to /trash/.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 13:11:22 2019 No.3963639 >>3963631 Art is better than most people here though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 13:29:25 2019 No.3963650 >>3963620 These are really cute. Fuck the police

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 14:01:58 2019 No.3963669 File: 1.08 MB, 1864x2588, IMG_20190608_194918.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] just made some Quik sketches can anybody give critique?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 14:10:50 2019 No.3963675 File: 404 KB, 970x593, study6.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] practicing observational skills

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 14:18:39 2019 No.3963687 File: 363 KB, 546x571, phone.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3963669 don't draw on lined paper. also stop phoneposting and resize your shit

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 14:23:59 2019 No.3963691 >>3963687 >also stop phoneposting my printer scanner is shit and too much of a poorfag to buy a tablet. >don't draw on lined paper. ok

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 14:28:13 2019 No.3963699 File: 694 KB, 2111x1868, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Whatever happened to the morals and standards?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 14:31:40 2019 No.3963704 File: 1008 KB, 1933x2319, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm sending them all my best stuff

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 14:33:55 2019 No.3963706 File: 1.06 MB, 1936x2589, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] In character I see him as a Luddite.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 14:33:56 2019 No.3963707 >>3963699 nine eleven changed everything neverforgetty.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 14:36:20 2019 No.3963710 >>3963687 >also stop phoneposting and resize your shit actually neskill yourself >>3963707 i miss pre 911, even as a non american it fucked everything. in my eyes the terrorists won

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 14:37:28 2019 No.3963713 File: 1.20 MB, 2592x1936, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Sorry my PC's at the cleaners.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 14:44:55 2019 No.3963721 >>3963713 GTFO this isn't beg.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 14:45:28 2019 No.3963722 >>3963713 the succubus has crack addict tits

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 14:51:24 2019 No.3963732 File: 123 KB, 476x500, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] any suggestions on what to draw?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 14:51:43 2019 No.3963733 File: 952 KB, 2443x1804, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3963721 It isn't amazing either.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 14:53:35 2019 No.3963734 >>3963733 Speaking of elixirs what is the best keurig cup? We had Colombian and I thought that was best but now it's Folgers French Vanilla

Anonymous Sat Jun 8 14:54:52 2019 No.3963736

How does one stop defeating themselves after drawing something bad? Trying to get proportions down on the face and even though I know great artists go through tens of thousands of bad drawings, I get frustrated when I make one head with wonky proportions even though I only started three-four weeks ago.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 14:56:12 2019 No.3963737 >>3963551 what if you have a terrible memory?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 14:56:20 2019 No.3963738 >>3963733 It's more impresive than xeroxing geriatric archie comics imo

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 15:00:07 2019 No.3963740 >>3963732 Full figure drawings.

Anonymous Sat Jun 8 15:00:58 2019 No.3963741
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I'm so fucking pissed off at myself for not improving quick enough. God damnit.

> chicken scratch wobbly as fuck lines
> I literally can't comprehend form unless I use trial and error ad nauseam.
> Faces are black magic to me, I can't get one to look like the reference if my life depended on it
> Literally a descendant of Van Gogh

Anonymous Sat Jun 8 15:02:45 2019 No.3963743

>>3963736
>How does one stop defeating themselves after drawing something bad? Trying to get proportions down on the face and even though I know great artists go through tens of thousands of bad drawings, I get frustrated when I make one head with wonky proportions even though I only started three-four weeks ago.

write down the date of all you art then you can look at the gradual improvement it helps a lot in stopping the "i'm not improving" mentality and it put's you into the mindset that your always getting better even when you draw something that looks like total shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 15:03:45 2019 No.3963744 >>3963738 Study at the hands of the master, bitch.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 15:04:29 2019 No.3963746 What's the best way to improve line consistency? Line structure exercises?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 15:07:54 2019 No.3963747 >>3963713 Good start! Work on your faces.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 15:08:01 2019 No.3963748 >>3963743 Thanks anon, I'll give that a shot

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 15:09:15 2019 No.3963750 >>3963721 lol yes it is.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 15:09:18 2019 No.3963751 File: 499 KB, 2592x818, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3963747 Will do. I guess anime's better for that. I want to storyboard an episode of 'Riverdale'

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 15:10:22 2019 No.3963752 >>3963706 >>3963704 bad >>3963699 good

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 15:11:44 2019 No.3963754 Are you supposed to only draw using the shoulder to get the form down then use the wrist to add details?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 15:20:21 2019 No.3963759 File: 71 KB, 530x535, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3963740 okay

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 15:21:15 2019 No.3963762 >>3963751 it always bothers me when somebody copies a style, its similair to the uncanny valley. it looks like the original, but it's also off... like that one borderline porn webcomic that copied looneytunes

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 15:21:17 2019 No.3963763 >>3963759 based stroke victim

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 15:21:55 2019 No.3963765 >>3963750 PYW

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 15:22:17 2019 No.3963766 >>3963759 No, full figure is what you see in the mirror when you look at yourself after eating a whole tub of ice cream to soothe the pain

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 15:22:57 2019 No.3963767 >>3963744 underpaid 60's archie comic artist =/= master

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 15:22:59 2019 No.3963768 >>3963762 >like that one borderline porn webcomic that copied looneytunes ?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 15:23:52 2019 No.3963769 >>3963754 You draw from the shoulder when working on larger paper or canvases. Drawing from the shoulder, elbow and wrist are contextual, and choices.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 15:24:09 2019 No.3963770 >>3963763 w-what does that mean >>3963766 yeah, that was just the last one I did, will do full figure now

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 15:26:38 2019 No.3963772 >>3963218 At what point would it be a good idea to start looking into the practice of visual memory? I'm currently doing the last quarter of Fun with a Pencil, but I still can't draw things out of my head.

Anonymous Sat Jun 8 15:27:28 2019 No.3963773
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>>3963770
the face is lopsided, like a stroke victim. Ill be honest, i mainly use /beg/ and /asg/ because people accidentally draw autistic people, but i notice people draw stroke victims as well

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 15:29:43 2019 No.3963775 >>3963768 Do you really want to know? http://www.badwebcomicswiki.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Sabrina_Online

Anonymous Sat Jun 8 15:29:54 2019 No.3963776

>>3963748
>Thanks anon, I'll give that a shot
hope it works for you as it did me anon also you might wanne keep your drawing in a folder or a drawer or something nothing hurts more than spilling water on your skechbook and losing a couple of months of grinding....

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 15:34:31 2019 No.3963783 >>3963775 looks nice, whats so bd about it

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 15:38:49 2019 No.3963791 How do you learn how to draw from the shoulder for digital drawing?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 15:40:58 2019 No.3963793 >>3963791 by scratching your plastic tablet with your stylus in a specific pattern

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 15:43:48 2019 No.3963794 >>3963773 What makes it look that way, the left eye?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 15:46:45 2019 No.3963797 >>3963793 that's a very vague explanation.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 16:06:24 2019 No.3963805 >>3963794 the right eye imo. plus the mouth droops weirldly. can you do me a favour and make her right cheeck dropp a bit

Anonymous Sat Jun 8 16:12:35 2019 No.3963811
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Trying to study Loomis.
Why is the hair detail on the right in the upper drawing but removed in the bottom drawing
Why is the ear lob area detail gone in the lower drawing?
Why is the nose shape different?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 16:15:26 2019 No.3963814 >>3963811 bro he rushed thougsands of sketches. understand both these images took the guy 10 secs to draw

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 16:21:49 2019 No.3963819 >>3963811 You're missing the point of that book completely.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 16:25:12 2019 No.3963821 >>3963814 10 secs to draw? Wtf? I've been working on mine for over half an hour because I'm trying to study the details.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 16:30:01 2019 No.3963823 >>3963821 yngtmiwta loomis isnt about drawing fat jews, its about construction methods, make youre own damn character

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 16:31:33 2019 No.3963825 >>3963821 Well 10 seconds is probably not true. I doubt he was trying to do them as fast as possible. But in relaxed manner he still should have done them both in around a minute total.

Anonymous Sat Jun 8 16:40:27 2019 No.3963831
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Drew with sanguine for the first time at the last lesson.
Any tips on how to get use this medium and chalk in general?
Seems like it's all about managing the strokes properly to convey tone and density.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 17:00:43 2019 No.3963843 File: 66 KB, 472x538, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3963805 does it look better?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 17:03:07 2019 No.3963846 File: 72 KB, 774x1033, document_27_2_by_artprogess_dd8v7sz-pre.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Half of an As109 face POG (Fuck I messed up the other side so badly)

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 17:03:11 2019 No.3963847 >>3963843 i mean a bit. like most people in this itt どこに c o n s t r u c t i o n ですか?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 17:09:54 2019 No.3963851 >>3963846 Also I just noticed how far As109 spaces his eyes he makes his lolis look look like ayra stark.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 17:12:32 2019 No.3963852 >>3963846 >As109 face POG i have no idea what youre talking about >>3963851 >I just noticed how far As109 spaces his eyes he makes his lolis look look like ayra stark this doesnt clarify anything

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 17:12:55 2019 No.3963853 >>3963823 >loomis isnt about drawing fat jews ROFL

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 17:13:23 2019 No.3963855 >>3963852 Are you retarded? Just look the guy up.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 17:16:01 2019 No.3963856 File: 368 KB, 1232x1626, b.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] hope i'll get some critiques by the time i wake up tomorrow before fucking it further up by shitty coloring

>>	Nosebro Sat Jun 8 17:22:12 2019 No.3963860 >>3963713 >>3963733 leave beg

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 17:22:22 2019 No.3963861 >>3963741 Sounds like Van Gogh to me.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 17:30:43 2019 No.3963869 >>3963856 eyes look out of place chin is fucking retarded hands are way too small arm proportions dont add up

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 17:32:26 2019 No.3963870 >>3963722 you need to do some real life model drawing

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 17:35:42 2019 No.3963874 >>3963856 If you did abdl stuff you'd go far, no joke.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 17:39:15 2019 No.3963878 File: 534 KB, 503x888, stuffs.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Stuff been feeling really junky lately.

Anonymous Sat Jun 8 18:09:18 2019 No.3963907

are applying observational techniques bad when applying construction to a subject? I remember someone here recommending me a observational method based on plotting lines based on creaturizing, parallel lines, angles, landmarks and one other thing that I forgot. I use it for pretty much everything. I still feel out the volume of forms with and simplify with boxes and other shapes and shit, but will it be a hinderance when attempting to draw from imagination?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 18:10:16 2019 No.3963909 File: 2.38 MB, 2448x3264, IMG_20190608_150942668.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] First time attempting drawing, critique me.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 18:11:30 2019 No.3963910 I want to sign my piece, but my handwriting is atrocious and stands out compared to the art. Should I just type my name in?

Anonymous Sat Jun 8 18:20:23 2019 No.3963915

>>3963909
it looks like you got progressively bored with texturing this, especially that blotch of darkness to the southwest of the tree trunk. Hatching looks less cool if you're just going to ease up on the line weight in lighter spots anyways. The bottom right part of the hill is an example of what makes it messy and a little confusing when the hatching isn't planned out properly. The base of the tree its roots is how its done correctly, it is convincing and executed well.

grain of salt, i'm /beg/ as well, blah blah.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 18:21:56 2019 No.3963916 >>3963915 Thank you for the honesty.

Anonymous Sat Jun 8 18:22:05 2019 No.3963917
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>>3963218
I'm trying to get into oil painting. I'm still at the point where I need tutorial videos to get anything decent on a canvas and I weirdly really enjoy the old Bob Ross videos. Does anyone know what materials one needs to get started doing those types of videos? The videos don't say much beyond what paints you need.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 18:30:39 2019 No.3963927 File: 63 KB, 1200x900, 123.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] following NMA course for complete beginners: constructing household things with basic forms

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 18:32:27 2019 No.3963929 File: 433 KB, 1851x1372, contender study 6-8-19.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] please tear into me. nobody ever critiques me

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 18:34:34 2019 No.3963933 >>3963927 the paralel lines void the image of depth

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 18:34:38 2019 No.3963934 >>3963620 youre a freaking pimp, practice ears

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 18:35:19 2019 No.3963935 >>3963917 canvas brush paint tray ??? and a whole lot of titanium white

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 18:37:30 2019 No.3963936 >>3963929 Could you post the image you studied this from? I think the barrel opening might but out of perspective but I'm not familiar with this kind of gun.

Anonymous Sat Jun 8 18:40:17 2019 No.3963938
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>>3963936
it's a contender. I know nothing about guns but I just like the look of them and think they're interesting subjects for observational drawings. any advice would be appreciated!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 18:42:42 2019 No.3963941 >>3963929 >>3963938 how you gun barrel gonna get larger the further it gets away

Anonymous Sat Jun 8 18:43:02 2019 No.3963943

>>3963929
I think I'm rarted, is it supposed to be breaking vertically or at an angle to the side? the perspective on this just seems warped and off in general, I feel like the viewer shouldn't be able to see the back of the trigger guard as clearly as we can. actually, the trigger itself seems all curved and fucked up. Underneath the hammer, you can see the parrellel lines and they look fine, but as you move up towards the barrel they curve and just look wrong. I think the closer end of the cylinder (where the bullet goes in) should look bigger than the other end, but when I keep looking at the housing (I think that's what its called, the space above the trigger) it feels like the barrel is just coming from a complete different direction. The grip looks good, but I think maybe there's a little too much volume on the left side, or maybe it should be concave, but I really don't know. This is a nice clean drawing with good lines and a good design, but its kinda silly looking. I'm still miring tho just need to brush up on scott robertson how to draw perspective stuff.

Anonymous Sat Jun 8 18:46:24 2019 No.3963945

>>3963938
>>3963943
didn't see your post until after I replied, but yea converging lines on the top of the barrel and some grappling with perspective will make it look less off.

also what I said about the grip is off since its probably not uncommon for these types of pistols to have some sort of asymmetrical design with a thumb rest or whatever.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 18:47:59 2019 No.3963947 >>3963935 What about stuff to mix with the paints? I know you need to mix oil paints with stuff but I don't know what all is necessary. Thanks!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 18:51:56 2019 No.3963951 >>3963669 Wtf you're too good. Is this the legendary high /beg/?

Anonymous Sat Jun 8 18:52:23 2019 No.3963952

>>3963941
damn you right bruh

>>3963943
>>3963945
thanks this is actually really insightful and gives me a lot to think about. the perspective of where the barrel breaks fucked me up too but I figured I oughta just trust my eye. I think i'll take another whack at it but from a constructional standpoint so I can wrap my head around the perspective of the barrel. thanks again!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 18:52:32 2019 No.3963953 File: 232 KB, 1080x1038, 1530998734617.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] guys, is there a general or thread on the art of writing? I've looked into /lit/ and found that it's not about creating, unlike this board

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 18:55:09 2019 No.3963955 >>3963947 >>3963953 like lit or trash or aco are the only boards about writing

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 19:04:01 2019 No.3963962 >>3963955 no guides there

Anonymous Sat Jun 8 19:04:42 2019 No.3963965

For anyone who's not a complete beginner.. how long were you in here? I'm having mild anxiety because by August I'll have been officially /beg/ for a whole year. I'm having a 2 months vacation though so I can fully focus on drawing.
How did you make it out? Anything special you figured out? I think I remember the art progress of some anon in a different thread and he got better after doing a TON of referenced drawings, but I'm not sure that'll help me fix my actual drawing quality (bad perspective, messy lines...)

Well maybe I'm venting. So how long is it normal to be here?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 19:06:29 2019 No.3963968 >>3963965 as long as it takes

Anonymous Sat Jun 8 19:15:12 2019 No.3963972

>>3963965
why do you have anxiety? i have been drawing on and off for several years and i am still just starting to get the hang of it. the only way you can progress is by putting the pencil to paper and failure is good. the last thing drawing should give you is stress, frustration is ok but make sure you are having fun. enjoy yourself!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 19:25:46 2019 No.3963976 >>3963473 Yes that's what I meant.

Anonymous Sat Jun 8 19:27:50 2019 No.3963978

>>3963599
You post the same character on every one of these and you never fix the eyes. And I tell you the same thing every time. And you're ngmi of you don't improve. The eyes look like they're closed the painted onto the eyelids. I'm getting tired of saying it to you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 19:40:27 2019 No.3963986 >>3963910 Just put your initials on it. It literally doesn't matter, especially with digital. You're getting all worked up over something that completely doesn't matter at all.

Anonymous Sat Jun 8 20:01:33 2019 No.3964004

>>3963965
Stagnation is the natural result of not doing progressive overload. The magic combination of repetition/recreating and exploration/reflection is what improvement at any skill is. You don't gain much muscle lifting the same weight over and over, you have to add on.

but uh, that's kind of soapboxy. Don't be afraid to explore concepts if you're not 100% mechanically sound. As long as you can understand, break down and recreate the concept, neatness and cleanliness is irrelevant until you are working on an actual piece. Get messy, fall down and fail and get used to it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 20:45:05 2019 No.3964029 File: 120 KB, 651x717, unknown.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 20:47:26 2019 No.3964034 >>3963300 Ok I’ll bite the butt on the green guy looks pretty good but from below doesn’t work. Also the neck is too long seems like you’re trying to hide the face.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 20:48:50 2019 No.3964036 >>3963436 Your eyes are on two different planes which makes it feel off.

Anonymous Sat Jun 8 20:51:11 2019 No.3964040

>>3963430
Hair is a shape not a bunch of lines. This piece is entirely symbols imagine taking a body party from random images online and stacking them that’s kinda what you’re doing. I would suggest picking up fun with pencil by Loomis. However if not work on real life drawing and making forms every artists draws cubes. Do that watch artist work on YouTube I like sinix Ahmet alhdori and Moderndayjames is fun to watch. Just keep drawing and make sure to draw from life. If I were you I would just set this aside and keep working.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 20:55:05 2019 No.3964046 File: 2.67 MB, 3264x2448, 20190608_141958.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I want to try to do 1k of gestures in a week.. so how you guys look this?.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 20:55:57 2019 No.3964047 >>3963821 He says don’t copy them draw your own just use the pieces he gives you to draw

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 20:56:26 2019 No.3964049 >>3964046 I forgot resize the image sorry..

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 21:18:00 2019 No.3964063 File: 292 KB, 1263x895, fuckedupproportions.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How do I unfuck my proportions?

Anonymous Sat Jun 8 21:21:28 2019 No.3964069

>>3963947
>What about stuff to mix with the paints? I know you need to mix oil paints with stuff but I don't know what all is necessary. Thanks!
Assuming you are a responsible adult, I'd advise that you start with Stand Oil, Damar Varnish and Turpentine... Use equal amounts of these to mis the standard 3-Part Medium. Turpentine is a dangerous solvent so you will be using it outdoors only.

Another option is to begin with Grumbacher's Oil Painting Medium No. II or the Maroger Medium or Neo-Meglip. These may be more forgiving for a beginner. I'd also advise buying brushes in sets.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 21:23:19 2019 No.3964072 >>3964069 *to mix the standard 3-Part medium You can use a clean glass dropper or a glass container when mixing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 21:25:59 2019 No.3964076 File: 747 KB, 800x1000, JUNK.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Thoughts on this sketch? Is it a good base to start lining from? Does anything look really off about it?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 21:27:27 2019 No.3964079 File: 1.34 MB, 2592x1936, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3964072 Illustration

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 21:27:32 2019 No.3964080 >>3964063 Maybe draw constructions over the reference, then you'll get a better feel for how everything is sized in proportion to each other?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 21:28:07 2019 No.3964083 File: 2.28 MB, 3984x2988, 20190608_182517.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] is there any hope for me?

Anonymous Sat Jun 8 21:31:38 2019 No.3964087

>>3964083
Of course there's hope for you anon, the bottom right looks good for the style you're going for, the main issue for most of these is the face the dip right after the cheekbone is best done on the bottom left but they dont have a jaw bone, and the facial features are off center and are too small/squashed for most of the images.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 21:32:51 2019 No.3964088 File: 343 KB, 1263x895, construc.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3964080 Worse thing is that I did

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 21:34:30 2019 No.3964093 File: 1.18 MB, 2592x1936, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3963947 Get a lightweight palette with palette cups.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 21:36:40 2019 No.3964097 File: 1.08 MB, 2592x1936, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3964093 Paintbox and a place to store canvas

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 21:37:55 2019 No.3964099 >>3964087 Thanks for the input. I can never figure out why my drawings look bad/wrong, so I have a hard time figuring out what I actually need to focus on aside from obvious things like hands.

Anonymous Sat Jun 8 21:42:31 2019 No.3964103

>>3964088
I think you need to rethink how you do your constructions, lines for the arms wont help you build form, drawing a boxy oval for the chest and more circular shapes for the arms will help you to figure out how muscle groups work.

>>3964099
No problem anon, happy to help :D

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 21:48:16 2019 No.3964107 >>3964103 ty for tips, will give it a try

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 21:52:55 2019 No.3964112 >>3964047 I know, but I want to try the ones of the books first before attempting my own.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 22:07:14 2019 No.3964127 >>3963558 Also would like to know something like this, draw a box can get really tiring

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 22:18:55 2019 No.3964147 >>3964076 Bump

Anonymous Sat Jun 8 22:34:22 2019 No.3964170
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I feel dizzy because I take pills that is suppose to lower my anxiety, but it's also a side effect. I want to keep drawing, but my head is not entirely there, especially mentally.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 22:44:02 2019 No.3964189 >>3964170 >my head is not entirely there That's because those (((anti-anxiety pills))) are fucking poison.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 22:46:11 2019 No.3964193 >>3964189 But if I don't take them, I'm too anxious to do anything.

Anonymous Sat Jun 8 22:54:40 2019 No.3964209

Spent the better part of today experimenting with ways to draw this stuff
I feel like the more I rely on construction the more mechanical it is, the less SOUL (or appeal) it has. Though without heavy construction (and even with it at certain angles) it's hard to nail it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 22:55:50 2019 No.3964212 File: 271 KB, 462x899, head.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3964209 Woops

Anonymous Sat Jun 8 23:01:19 2019 No.3964216

>>3964112
Here do 4 of your own than just draw the similar style he gives quick tips to some of his faces follow those than look at some of his noses and ears start mixing and matching. Yours will look worse but that’s okay. Loomis is not about copying it’s about figuring out construction, yes copying is good but make sure you do your own. You’re shit won’t be good that’s why you’re reading the fucking book so get fucking dirty and make some ugly ass shit and get better!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 23:13:00 2019 No.3964225 File: 274 KB, 1024x1057, nukechimpisland.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] It's a little boring. Didn't know what to put in the background. more apes I guess would be the obvious. idk, i ran out of creativity for the day.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 23:16:53 2019 No.3964227 >>3964225 >It's a little boring. dude you just drew an ape with tentacle arms

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 23:33:13 2019 No.3964232 >>3964212 I like these. If you're worried about stiffness, then you shouldn't rely on construction solely. You'll want to eventually marry it with gesture drawing to combat the stiffness that arises from pure construction.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 23:36:22 2019 No.3964233 File: 169 KB, 1008x409, loomisheadonmyown.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3964216 Too tired to make more.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 23:42:38 2019 No.3964235 File: 2.53 MB, 3072x4096, IMG_20190608_223504.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What are some weaknesses to this portrait I did? I sense my shading may be off. What else besides that needs improvement?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 23:44:38 2019 No.3964236 How do you learn to draw the human body?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 23:48:29 2019 No.3964240 >>3964235 barely a step of above symbol drawing, look up proko on youtube and get better

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 23:48:52 2019 No.3964241 >>3964225 If this was a show on adult swim I’d watch it

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 23:56:35 2019 No.3964245 File: 78 KB, 771x1000, oh SHIT ohh FUCK im gonna fucking CUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMMMMMMMMMMMM.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i have never done gesture drawing before... tell me what i am getting wrong!

Anonymous Sun Jun 9 00:03:24 2019 No.3964250

>>3964232
Don't know how a gesture drawing would work with a head. Like emoting the eyebrows and mouth and stuff?
On another note even with construction, I mess up certain things to do with proportions, like the muzzle being too long as a basic box, or the eyes being inconsistent in their size both relative to one another and to the sphere of the head. I try to take note of everything but it's too much for my pea brain to focus on, I end up correcting the sketch after all is said and done.

Anonymous Sun Jun 9 00:10:32 2019 No.3964257

>>3964227
and managed to make it boring, that's an accomplishment

>>3964225
the first thing you could do to improve the composition is give some sense of scale. is the chimp supposed to be gigantic? in any case it should probably take up more than half the frame

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 00:33:25 2019 No.3964265 >>3963811 He decided he didn't like it anymore. You'll see things like this all the time on his books. It's good that you're being analytical but don't give so much thought to things like that.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 00:52:29 2019 No.3964273 File: 35 KB, 698x348, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I've noticed I doodle better at a lower resolution, is that a bad thing?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 00:56:48 2019 No.3964275 >>3964273 It makes the brush look thicker, leaving more room for one's imagination. Try using thicker brushes at higher resolutions.

Anonymous Sun Jun 9 00:59:01 2019 No.3964276
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Found some older gesture drawings that I'd done. Took a break from drawing and lost the little skill that I had cultivated. Getting back into the swing of things through traditional pencil and paper, however. Will post when I get a scanner.

>>3964273
I used to do this, but drawing larger is actually better for learning because while you wont run out of space on a digital surface, you will run yourself out of space within your drawing itself. I ran into the issue of not having enough room to put in details that would have greatly improved the quality of the image.

Try and approximate the brush size of a real life pencil stroke and use that on a large canvas. The brush size will vary based on the size of the canvas.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 01:04:20 2019 No.3964284 AAAAAAA I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DRAW FUCK REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Anonymous Sun Jun 9 01:04:43 2019 No.3964285
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>>3964245
Not an expert myself, but your stuff seems too stiff. Exaggerate the curves more. The limbs look like steam pipes. the curves should play off each other if that makes sense -if one side of the limb is concave the other should be convex (not necessarily always true but p much). If you haven't, watch the two proko videos on gesture.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 01:05:22 2019 No.3964286 >>3964273 but u just draw the same thing the hair looks like an aftertought tho

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 01:07:38 2019 No.3964289 >>3964284 Draw ALL of the little shit around your house. Draw it all. It might not be the most interesting thing in the world, but it should be fun to just be able to draw with your hands. If not, then what the fuck are you doing here?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 01:11:24 2019 No.3964293 File: 1.63 MB, 2975x3850, my room.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3964289 I already did that, but not very detailed and somewhat rushed

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 01:16:19 2019 No.3964296 >>3964285 For gesture drawing, do you want to get the human shape in or are stick figures with balls for joints good? Or does it depend on how long you're giving yourself?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 01:16:43 2019 No.3964297 >>3964286 Yeah, I'm trying to get used to drawing on a tablet

Anonymous Sun Jun 9 01:20:41 2019 No.3964300

>>3964293
Do it again and again. I'm in the process of filling up pages in a sketchbook of all the shit on my desk. The dumb shit: the bottles of soda, the left behind glasses, the monitor and the very keyboard i'm typing with. Don't rush your work. Practice perspective, practice shading, practice form. Saying "I've already done it" was what was holding me back. Do it a hundred times. A thousand times. Fill up a bunch of 4k-sized canvases with just honest-to-god as-you-see it drawings of what you're seeing.

It's what I'm doing.

Anonymous Sun Jun 9 01:34:31 2019 No.3964315
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God damn are circles and curves frustrating. #2 is the one I'm most content with even though the perspective is a bit shitty. I ran out of room towards the lower-half of #1.

I'm indifferent towards whether I should continue Fun with a Pencil or move on to another book or just other exercises in general. I feel aimless so I've been sticking to Loomis.

Anonymous Sun Jun 9 01:36:48 2019 No.3964318
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>>3963503
>>3963551
Aight, when you said it lacks 3d, this is the only thing I can come up with.
If anyone could give redline on the construction of the body, that would be reeaally help.

Anonymous Sun Jun 9 01:38:43 2019 No.3964322

>>3964296
The point of gesture drawing is NOT to draw a stick figure (a sphere for the head and action line are okay). You're trying to capture the motion/action of the object in as few lines as possible. You're not trying to draw an accurate contour or get the details perfect.

Watch these:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74HR59yFZ7Y&t=498s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8j39NqwL7s4

Cool tool you can use:
https://line-of-action.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 01:41:50 2019 No.3964327 >>3964322 Awesome, thanks for the material! If I'm still working on construction and have no idea about the anatomy, is it still fine to work on gesture drawing as exercises?

Anonymous Sun Jun 9 01:47:23 2019 No.3964331

>>3964315
The big take away from fun with a pencil is that it's simply trying to express the idea that you can use simple shapes in constructing a drawing. I think people get a little carried away with copying loomis heads ad infinitum until they eventually get burnt. Which, isn't really the point and he even encourages you at different points to experiment with your own shapes. In short, it's a beginners introduction to construction -of which many alternatives exist. So you can substitute in something else more suited to your tastes so long as it's aimed at conveying the same principles. I hear drawabox focuses on this but I've yet to check it out myself.

Anonymous Sun Jun 9 01:54:00 2019 No.3964336

>>3964327
I mean, it doesn't matter how much you know about anatomy, as you'll be trying to capture what is in front of you. And if anything, if you practice gesture/figure drawing everyday (as you should) your understanding of anatomy will improve anyway.

Anonymous Sun Jun 9 02:02:47 2019 No.3964344

>>3964225
It is good bro! You got a lot things right on that picture.

As >>3964257 suggested it adjusting the composition will probably help greatly.

Have you watched the "understanding composition" video yet?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8i7OKbWmRM

If not please do it, just 30 minutes and it shows you all the basics you can instantly use for your pictures.

Good luck!

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 02:21:06 2019 No.3964353 >>3964212 Really Anon I would cal you "not /beg/" if you ask me.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 02:23:49 2019 No.3964355 >>3964076 I think it looks good, a sketch can be ultra messy but you can get anything out of it if you know what you are doing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 02:24:27 2019 No.3964357 >>3963430 stop symbol drawing google it youtube proko

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 02:24:44 2019 No.3964358 is there a specific time when it's ok to start practicing shading? still working on everything else as a /beg/, but it seems like shading is so important

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 02:25:09 2019 No.3964359 What should I be focusing on when doing daily exercises? I want to be able to draw more realistically, but I feel like I'm not able to translate what I see to paper yet.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 02:44:54 2019 No.3964369 File: 153 KB, 647x1000, 5.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3963218 Drawing with a wooden pencil after 7 months feels so good but holy fuck I made those legs too long. Whatever too tired to fix. Time for fap and sleep.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 02:56:01 2019 No.3964373 Scott harris is such a shitty teacher and artist holy shit. I can't believe that westerners would even try to learn from such a retard.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 03:05:09 2019 No.3964382 >>3964233 panel 3 he becomes the chad lmao

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 03:51:01 2019 No.3964421 >>3964170 You can move on anon from this cartoonish heads and try something harder. They are good enough.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 04:11:39 2019 No.3964432 File: 1.49 MB, 2519x2998, F51CC53C-CCAA-4F2D-AE0B-8B79CCE35135.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Sun Jun 9 05:19:35 2019 No.3964476

>>3964193
People had to live without anxiety meds for tens of thousands of years of human history. People went to fucking war and shit with no pills or medicine or anything. They didn't complain about being "too anxious to do anything". How come they were able to charge into battle with nothing but the clothes on thier backs, but you can't even draw some fucking cartoons without being on drugs? What made them so special that you lack?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 05:21:26 2019 No.3964478 >>3964212 I think those are all pretty good and soul, anon. Try drawing some real finished pieces that you actually want to draw and not just a series of floating heads, otherwise you'll never leave /beg/.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 05:32:52 2019 No.3964489 >>3963978 >they're closed the I get the painted onto eyelids part but what does this mean?

Anonymous Sun Jun 9 05:37:26 2019 No.3964491

so I really appreciate oil paintings and never have realised how much I do until I just started to see the beauty in them and I decided that I think I would enjoy and learn to paint with oil/canvas

I checked plebbit and it either seems like I need a lot of money to start or I must take formal lessons and learn to draw incredibly well before painting

are all of these true?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 06:38:29 2019 No.3964530 File: 61 KB, 602x495, mah nwah.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3964235 always loved that greek sculpture inspired morrowind aestheic

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 07:40:45 2019 No.3964578 >>3964170 i thought you werent supposed to copy the exercises in that book? im making my own heads, am i doing it wrong?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 07:44:54 2019 No.3964583 File: 103 KB, 1060x1885, 20190530_00305712.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] her hand and legs are fucked but what other stuff do i need to work on?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 07:48:30 2019 No.3964586 >>3964359 >look at thing >find shapes in thing >draw shapes on paper, in configuration that you saw in reality >fill in the blanks

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 07:51:10 2019 No.3964590 >>3964583 dont hide the hands, learn to draw them in the beggining its better to draw without an erection, focus is important face looks like she had a stroke everything else is fine at your level

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 07:52:32 2019 No.3964592 what is symbol drawing people keep telling me to stop doing it when i look it up on youtube there are no results google only shows engineering stuff

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 08:18:50 2019 No.3964616 >>3964592 It's in the sticky, learn to read.

Anonymous Sun Jun 9 08:22:39 2019 No.3964620

>>3964592
https://hubpages.com/art/how-to-draw-learn
>Symbol Drawing - This means you draw your idea of reality instead of what's actually there.
>To cure your symbol drawing, you need a different view of the world around you. Instead of drawing what you know, start drawing values, shapes and shadows. For example, while before you might have drawn an eye, now draw this abstract combination of dark and light areas.

Anonymous Sun Jun 9 08:25:44 2019 No.3964623

>>3964592
A symbol is the substitute for a real thing. So what you are drawing is a simplified symbol of the subject. Take a house for example, most people when asked will draw a square with a triangle on top.

Instead of drawing symbols you have to train your brain to see shapes (or forms) in three dimensions and draw them like that.

To pull this off you'll need knowledge of how shapes look from any angle, perspective, light and shadow, texture. If you want to draw people anatomy. There obviously is more to it but this is where you start.

Godspeed anon.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 08:28:52 2019 No.3964626 >>3964623 Thank you very much for the explanation.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 09:16:11 2019 No.3964666 >>3964476 I don't know. I just can't function like a normal human bean. >>3964578 I think I better do the one in the books first, then try a couple of my own which I tried while having a headache last night >>3964233

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 09:28:21 2019 No.3964681 File: 131 KB, 700x700, aimu.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] just tried drawing again after 3 years of not drawing

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 09:33:18 2019 No.3964685 >>3964476 >People had to live without anxiety meds for tens of thousands of years of human history No they didn't. Many cultures smoked weed, got really drunk and took stimulants from plants.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 09:37:46 2019 No.3964688 File: 65 KB, 537x542, vbnvbnvbn.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] xcvxcvbxcvbxcvb

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 09:45:24 2019 No.3964692 >>3964421 then what should I try? Gesture drawing?

Anonymous Sun Jun 9 10:03:11 2019 No.3964710

>>3964476
>How come they were able to charge into battle with nothing but the clothes on thier backs, but you can't even draw some fucking cartoons without being on drugs? What made them so special that you lack?
Because they believed that dying in battle while trying gets the a free past to whatever pleasant afterlife their beliefs contained. Also that they have been conditioned to win or die trying by very strong social pressure. In short they were, brainwashed by religion and and tales of glory. Or escape from poverty an isolation and possible death on the street. Failing those there was also forced drafting and potential execution should you no comply. Facing death right now vs. facing potential death in the battlefield sometime later is a pretty good motivator.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 10:03:43 2019 No.3964711 File: 10 KB, 305x367, 19.6.9.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 10:04:56 2019 No.3964714 >>3964692 Gesture and perspective.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 10:13:58 2019 No.3964722 >>3964681 Looks fine to me Anon

Anonymous Sun Jun 9 10:14:00 2019 No.3964723
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Still on CTRl+Paint traditional drawing videos and practicing visual measurements and proportions. Not sure if I'm doing it right or not so any thoughts or tips would help. Don't want to make a career out of life drawing but heard I should practice it nonetheless.

Anonymous Sun Jun 9 10:14:22 2019 No.3964724

>>3964688
eyes are too high and ears are too low (they should be roughly at the same level), it seems like middle part of the head is too tall
eyes look really cool though
>>3964692
if figure drawing is all you want to do then knowledge of gesture, perspective, construction, and basics anatomy will take you pretty far
you should practice them at the same time, learning how to draw is juggling and not a straight path from A to B
>>3964711
you tried

Anonymous Sun Jun 9 10:14:41 2019 No.3964725
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I am focussing on portraits after staying in my figure drawing comfort zone for too long. Additionally my line quality was pure shit so I tried to improve that as well.

>Would appreciate a crit on pic related.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 10:21:53 2019 No.3964736 File: 422 KB, 3571x1153, 10 gesture2min intervals.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3964714 >>3964724 I tried some quickposes but I'm not happy with the results.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 10:29:01 2019 No.3964748 >>3964723 wrong. measure if ffs

Anonymous Sun Jun 9 10:36:03 2019 No.3964756

>>3964736
There one thing that should be noted;
>the gestures are only silhouettes.
What you should instead focus on is seeing the body as collection of various forms. You can do this by using landmarks on the body. Skeletal parts which are visible and remain the same through most figures.
For example; The horizontal angle of the collar bones, the tenth rip, and the sternum.
Proko has some good tutorials on this, as well as various other principles to help simplify the figure.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 10:39:57 2019 No.3964761 >>3964725 You have demonstrated the proportions of the facial features excellently. Try challenging yourself with drawing heads in obscure angels.

Anonymous Sun Jun 9 10:53:44 2019 No.3964777

>>3964736
these are silhouettes, my dude, not gestures
it's one of the hardest concepts to grasp, but the main idea is that you supposed to capture flow between various body parts
there is no correct way to do that, every artist does it differently, some focus on making it appear 3D using cross-section lines and overlaps, some use just circle and seven lines, some scribble like madmen
the only thing that's important is that gesture should convey movement, you should be able to look at them and tell what they are doing (and if other people can tell too then you are on correct course)
don't stress too much about it right now, just start every day by practicing gestures for 20 minutes and it'll come eventually

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 10:57:31 2019 No.3964780 File: 232 KB, 883x1250, saber_alter.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] just made this quick sketch, I would appreciate any critique in anatomy/proportion before I start the lineart and coloring

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 10:58:16 2019 No.3964782 File: 1.14 MB, 3331x3446, awful.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3964756 >>3964777 I tried a second time and it's even worst. The same exercise.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 10:58:16 2019 No.3964783 File: 209 KB, 351x337, 1550731840476.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] eh

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 10:59:06 2019 No.3964785 >>3964777 If it helps, I recall Vilppu once saying that the gesture is only about conveying what the person is doing. Everything doesn't have to be totally accurate as long as you capture the FEEL of lifelike movement and expression as you see it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 11:00:25 2019 No.3964787 >>3964748 Uh, thanks.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 11:02:53 2019 No.3964790 >>3964756 >>3964777 So I just did silhouettes instead of gestures?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 11:04:12 2019 No.3964793 >>3964681 Cute!

Anonymous Sun Jun 9 11:10:56 2019 No.3964799
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>>3964782
>>3964736
>>3964790

Anon here is what >>3964756 and >>3964777and others poster mean.

With the gesture you also try to map the surface and angles of the form not just the shilouettes. This way ou can get a much better feel for the form's shape on the 3d space and the directions the limbs and body got towards. This is harder but it trains your mind to build your shapes and imagine them in 3D instead of just a 2D plain.

Did this help?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 11:28:45 2019 No.3964810 >>3964799 I understand what you mean, but I have a mental block to be able to imagine in my brain 3d rather than plain 2d.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 11:31:17 2019 No.3964812 >>3964810 That is okay, that is the reason for this exercise, you will be able to chip that block away in time! Go for it and good luck!

Anonymous Sun Jun 9 11:38:04 2019 No.3964822

>>3964723
one thing thats standing out to me is look at the angle of the left leg. just the upper thigh. see how yours is tilted to the right? and the statue is straight up? also the statue is looking more toward the left and down. yours is kind of straight on. its because your perspective is off. try to draw her without clothes. and also draw basic shapes, like boxes and cylinders. and make sure the perspective is perfect. and then you can start refining the body shapes and then put the clothes on. i think youll get quite a different result. by doing it the way you've done it, you're still drawing in 2d. and its imperfect so its going to look flat. if you approach it from a 3d perspective as i described, youll still have mistakes, but it wont look flat. and anyway it doesn't have to be a perfect copy. we already have cameras to make perfect copies, just focus on making a good drawing, not an accurate copy.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 11:43:36 2019 No.3964828 >>3964822 Thanks, that sounds like I would need a handle on construction and perspective, which is something I haven't really worked on yet since I'm focusing on observational drawing (first skill on the sticky) and proportions.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 11:48:49 2019 No.3964831 >>3964780 perspective around waist area is fucked up, it seems like pelvis is turned away, but belt buckle is turned directly to us

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 11:49:55 2019 No.3964833 File: 560 KB, 794x1080, thigh and gluteal anatomy tracing.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] pls send help

Anonymous Sun Jun 9 11:52:15 2019 No.3964835

>>3964780
a general, good rule of thumb is that arms should be as long as the legs, if you are going for semirealistic proportions. of course there are some exceptions to this rule, for example boys going through puberty tend to have funky proportions due to hormones, but that's not what youre illustrating here.
an easy way to find something off about your drawing is o look at it in a mirror. because, as you sit drawing for long periods of time, instead of seeing reality, your brain super imposes what you are going for. You can either wait and look at it later, or hold it infront of a mirror to snap your brain out of it and force yourself to look at your creation objectively
also, you lazy fucking cunt, draw a real sword

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 12:09:11 2019 No.3964843 Help

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 12:10:21 2019 No.3964845 >>3963378 To be honest I have been drawing more animals and I think that's where the improvement is coming from. Maybe I ought to draw more humans as well.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 12:12:20 2019 No.3964846 File: 347 KB, 1241x1116, 6AAE62A8-B345-417F-BD2B-1006B2D2DD37.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 12:13:36 2019 No.3964847 >>3964846 the left shoulder looks like an afterthought, because it is.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 12:17:01 2019 No.3964848 >>3964846 chicken scratch

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 12:19:02 2019 No.3964849 >>3963736 Just thinking of it like lifting weights. You suck and feel wimpy at first, but think of one small goal you'd like to get to and you'll feel amazing as you approach then surpass it

Anonymous Sun Jun 9 12:20:44 2019 No.3964850
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Did some random crap from Hampton's book today. I don't know either: feels like I've lost my way.

Should I take the book one chapter at a time or can I skip ahead to, say, legs if I feel the need to?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 12:22:46 2019 No.3964853 >>3964850 utterly based filename

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 12:33:50 2019 No.3964859 >>3964849 >assuming anyone on this board can relate to analogies about weightlifting lol

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 12:34:08 2019 No.3964861 File: 1.75 MB, 3840x2160, resetting.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Yesterday i made another upload https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au5bxiAU8IU

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 12:43:23 2019 No.3964864 >>3964850 that's some good shit anon

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 12:54:21 2019 No.3964871 >>3964850 tell me your secret, anon

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 12:54:39 2019 No.3964872 >>3964846 hey we all gotta start somewhere

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 12:54:53 2019 No.3964873 >>3964864 Thanks. >>3964853 Kek

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 13:07:17 2019 No.3964889 File: 62 KB, 622x589, yuck.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3964872 I’ve actually been drawing for about a year, here is my first digital drawing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 13:11:58 2019 No.3964898 >>3964491 you can teach yourself, for a while up to a certain point at least, the only money you need (still expensive as fuck) are for the paints

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 13:12:55 2019 No.3964901 File: 2.77 MB, 3906x3508, 1559389682659.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3964889 Holy fucking shit This is absolutely terrible Like, terrible even for /beg/ I would give advice but I'm having a heart attack from looking at this pic related

Anonymous Sun Jun 9 13:13:31 2019 No.3964904
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>>3964831
Thanks, I'll try to move the belt buckle to the left and apply perspective
>>3964835
>arms should be as long as the legs
here is a figure of this character,
I think the long legs give a more elegant appearance to the female outline. Nevertheless, I agree about wait and look later, I usually see a lot of shit after.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 13:18:06 2019 No.3964917 >>3964904 If you wish to give them an elegant appearance without having to resort to martian proportions, try messing around with shape, position and perspective. Trick the eye, you know? But, i mean youre drawing anime, so anything goes...

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 13:31:59 2019 No.3964933 File: 182 KB, 694x852, tfw.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Rate my style

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 13:36:02 2019 No.3964936 >>3964889 pretty bad for a year, ngl but youll make it. why dont you follow any construction methods for you head? redo the 1st you posted itt with loomis style construction >>3964933 indie game that sells 20 copies on launch day

Anonymous Sun Jun 9 13:38:43 2019 No.3964939

>>3964936
this tbqh
and then the dev gets jaded/burnout that nobody wants to play his gay viking manboob simulator and either blows his brains out or sells his soul and goes to work as a low level IT goon for 30 years before dying of a circulatory disease from spending his life in a chair

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 13:40:54 2019 No.3964940 >>3964933 Angry about elves/10

Anonymous Sun Jun 9 13:43:17 2019 No.3964943

>>3964936
Digital drawing is a really learned skill though most pads are slippery as a cunt after seeing Johnny Depp. And mouses are just hot fucking garbage.>>3964933
Holy shit and not in a good way/ 10
First is that a man or a woman? is this an Ironic joke, is it a hermaphrodite? is it a futanari? Where's the crotch bulge? where are the nipples? why is it saluting?

Please draw consistently make it a man or a woman I have a VERY confused erection, that I have to explain why it's wrong to be turned on by bearded women....THANKS

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 13:44:24 2019 No.3964946 File: 67 KB, 1200x900, light and shadow.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] is the difference in value between the core shadow and the shadow body with the reflected light too big?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 13:50:07 2019 No.3964957 File: 32 KB, 492x435, nobrows.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3964889

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 13:57:08 2019 No.3964965 >>3964943 you know you can put a piece of paper between the drawing pad and the stylus right?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 14:01:28 2019 No.3964970 >>3964965 Yep, but that doesn't help with how inaccurate they are compared to regular drawing, unless you get a touchscreen.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 14:03:02 2019 No.3964974 >>3964970 i dont think my cheap craplet is that innacurate, that said i suggest a samsung tab s3/4/5 over most starter tablets, only a bit more and absolutely btfos them for drawing. plus you get the bonus of having a tablet

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 14:08:23 2019 No.3964981 >Draw something for fun to beat of ability >Pinpoint key problems >Focus on one or two fundamentals to fix it for the week >Try again at the end of the week >Repeat process Sound plan on getting good?

Anonymous Sun Jun 9 14:18:08 2019 No.3964990
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Sorry about the watermark, only program I could find, but what should I do to change my gestures? This is literally the first time I've done gesture drawing exercises and I'm not sure how to change.

Anonymous Sun Jun 9 14:22:21 2019 No.3964995
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>>3964835
>a general, good rule of thumb is that arms should be as long as the legs
That's not really a good rule of thumb in my opinion, because overly short arms or legs stick out like a sore thumb and it's better to make them slightly too long than too short.

On an average person, legs (if we consider a "leg" as the distance from the tip of the femur to the sole of the feet) are about 1.5 times the length of the arm the distance from the shoulder to the knuckles. In the figurine >>3964904 is referencing, her legs are slightly longer (1.6~1.7 the length of the arms).

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 14:28:30 2019 No.3965006 is drawing over 3d models a

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 14:29:04 2019 No.3965007 >>3963856 How do you draw lines co clear? I know you can do it in manga studio but I only have photoshop and all my lines look like shit, started drawing like two weeks ago

Anonymous Sun Jun 9 14:32:42 2019 No.3965010

>>3964995
the final results look kinda bad

>>3965006
yes its a

>>3964990
these are missing parts of the body and really idk what the hells going on like theyre not even poses that can be done. also what sort of program are you trying to find? use krita if youre trying to piece images togeher

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 14:39:35 2019 No.3965020 File: 289 KB, 478x729, 1559046923105.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3964235

Anonymous Sun Jun 9 14:42:23 2019 No.3965023

>>3965010
Ok, so they're incoherent and missing body parts. In a 30-45 second sketch, do you just use a box for the torso and exaggerate that to get the gesture instead of completely ignoring it? And I just had 4 seperate pictures I wanted to get altogether onto one so I didn't have to post 4 times.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 14:45:21 2019 No.3965025 >>3964933 Absolutely degenerate. Which would be fine but you have a bicep growing out of the back of the bearded lady's arm.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 14:48:20 2019 No.3965028 >>3965023 i usually draw the spide first, draw my torso around it so i can contort the shape to fit

Anonymous Sun Jun 9 14:52:15 2019 No.3965031

>>3964828
LOL well that's why your drawing sucks. Check out Peter han. You can download his book the dynamic Bible for free in the Art book thread and he has done great videos explaining his process. But basically it's just what I told you. Cylinders boxes cones spheres and pyramids in perspective will make the drawing not look flat. The only way you're gonna get something to not look flat is to get 3d shapes and perspective right, and the only way to get them right is to break them down to simple shapes your brain can handle. In fact, scrap the figurine. Just draw 3d shapes to get the hang of it. If you can draw a bunch of cylinders from different angles, you can draw arms and hands. If you try to skip the foundation you will not improve when you try to draw complex things like people.

Anonymous Sun Jun 9 14:55:48 2019 No.3965038

>>3964344
Yea I think the composition is the problem. I didn't plan out the picture when I started I just came up with things I wanted in the frame but not a perspective or a narrative of anything so it's quite flat and boring. Thanks for the video. I'll definitely work on composition.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 15:01:40 2019 No.3965043 >>3965028 Do you have any examples? I'm utilizing Proko to try and get it down, but seeing more I feel would help.

Anonymous Sun Jun 9 15:03:06 2019 No.3965044

>>3965031
Well I guess I can try Dynamic Sketching again while reading up on perspective on the side. I tried to do it a while back but I didn't feel like i was getting anywhere or i possibly got impatient.

Should I go through with that or DrawABox though? Also since I wanna do figure drawing to draw characters, maybe I can practice gesture on the side?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 15:19:44 2019 No.3965052 >>3965044 Also adding that should I bother learning construction now since I'm focusing on getting proportions right first.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 15:26:40 2019 No.3965059 >>3965052 construction should be one of the first things you learn

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 15:28:55 2019 No.3965060 When drawing from real life, should we be constructing the object then filling in the details? Or just draw it as we go along?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 15:33:47 2019 No.3965067 File: 299 KB, 712x2001, EA1AA80A-BDED-48B9-993C-8882AADDE6FC.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3963608 Well here’s one more.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 15:36:03 2019 No.3965071 >>3965060 First construction with all the base shapes, then add details on top, otherwise you'll get distracted by the details and screw up the shapes. Only experts that internalized all the construction can just go along with it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 15:37:14 2019 No.3965073 File: 152 KB, 400x416, 1559660919051.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3965020 IT'S NORMAL OK EVERYTHING LOOKS WORSE WHEN YOU FLIP IT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 15:40:17 2019 No.3965077 I’m in week 6 of dynamic sketching 1 and I’m unsure if I should move to dynamic sketching 2 once I’m done or take a break or just skip dynamic sketching too altogether

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 15:43:48 2019 No.3965084 >>3964170 Have fun having your dreams stored in your long term memory, buddy.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 15:46:25 2019 No.3965086 >>3965067 I hate your drawings so much and you make this thread worse every time you post.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 15:46:53 2019 No.3965087 >>3965073 just fix it when you flip it

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 15:48:11 2019 No.3965088 >>3965086 THIS doesn't anon know, that when nobody replies, it means we dont care?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 15:49:14 2019 No.3965090 >>3965086 they are devoid of soul at least shitty drawings look funny

Anonymous Sun Jun 9 15:54:10 2019 No.3965093
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>>3964083
Construct more, anon. Using more basic cylinders, boxes, spheres and other shapes to construct the figure makes them look much more rigid and makes your proportions more consistent.
You can start as simple such simplifying the torso as an egg, pelvis as a bucket shape, cylinders for the limbs and spheres for the joints. Also make sure to wrap perspective lines around them to establish their perspective, otherwise you might start to think of them as 2D again.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 15:56:20 2019 No.3965096 Since I have a hard time drawing feet, I think that's what I'll try to practice on.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 16:01:36 2019 No.3965100 File: 10 KB, 260x239, F4EA2453-D39C-45B2-BFD5-39810763CE18.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3965087 >mfw I’m a treadfag and every line I erase leaves a trace

Anonymous Sun Jun 9 16:05:00 2019 No.3965102
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>>3964318
Not him but when you construct make sure part of the body you draw is a full 3D shape. Either a cylinder, box, sphere or variation of the three. NEVER just lines, there need to be visible top and bottom planes in case of a cylinder as well as side planes with a box.

Anonymous Sun Jun 9 16:20:09 2019 No.3965111
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>>3965102
Don’t take this very seriously as a redline please since I’m pretty terrible myself. Also not doing the arm thing since it would clutter up the drawing even more.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 16:28:21 2019 No.3965117 File: 128 KB, 756x1000, help linewerk.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] why is linework so fucking hard? how do i get it right. clip studio paint

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 16:43:53 2019 No.3965125 File: 174 KB, 1067x1590, feetexercices.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3965117 No idea, I use PS CC myself, so I can't help you with that. I don't want to pay for clip studio paint while I pay for the whole adobe series.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 17:34:42 2019 No.3965180 >>3965117 linework doesn't need to be just clean crisp lines. work with different techs till you find one that communicates form and texture and looks good that you're comfortable with

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 17:35:08 2019 No.3965181 File: 995 KB, 2028x2028, IMG_20190609_173345_537.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Ayyyyy lmao

>>	Nosebro Sun Jun 9 17:49:15 2019 No.3965193 File: 73 KB, 1165x887, Capture.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3965067 youve got talent, dont let the ngmis get to ya

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 18:35:54 2019 No.3965230 File: 56 KB, 272x727, turbo chad.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] just finished fun with a pencil, tried to make a turbo chad but i still suck at drawing bodies

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 18:37:58 2019 No.3965232 >>3965230 is fun with a gun the one where they tell you to measure stuff? because his arms are raptor core and the head too unrealistic

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 18:38:53 2019 No.3965233 >>3965181 increase the fov when making a circle

Anonymous Sun Jun 9 18:50:56 2019 No.3965237

>>3965117
CSP finally added a better search function for their tutorial site

https://tips.clip-studio.com/en-us/articles/1386#8177e152
https://tips.clip-studio.com/en-us/articles/1507#22a6eb42
https://tips.clip-studio.com/en-us/articles/1250#ce9a33a6

Some use vector layers and the pen tool, others use a pencil with raster layers.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 19:06:31 2019 No.3965247 >>3965233 Fov?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 19:08:26 2019 No.3965250 >>3965230 Look at his neck relative to his chest. Arm too short and narrow, too many abs. Idk what you're doing but please stop.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 19:16:01 2019 No.3965261 File: 348 KB, 1200x459, anato.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I think I fell for the anatomy meme too soon. Should I keep at it or focus on something else? I'd like to do (digital) figure painting from imagination eventually.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 19:17:30 2019 No.3965263 >>3964724 pyw

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 19:20:23 2019 No.3965267 >>3965247 google broken? field of view

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 19:21:09 2019 No.3965270 >>3965261 >too soon *not soon enough

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 19:24:27 2019 No.3965272 File: 786 KB, 830x1024, waterfairychick1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] practice I worked on between reading Hampton and Dodson. Thots?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 19:37:19 2019 No.3965281 File: 97 KB, 500x648, Screen Shot 2019-06-07 at 8.41.17 PM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Looking for some critique before I redo the line work. Rip my shit senpai

Anonymous Sun Jun 9 19:58:27 2019 No.3965299

>>3965281
Neck too small, should connect at the eyeline on the back of the skull. Speaking of skull, the face's perspective is off. If this is supposed to be 3/4, the shape of the farther eye would be more tear-drop shaped.

Also, grind fundies. Hand is a yikes, connective skin is too sharp. Between the fingers it's more of a curve. Tits scary, static gesture. Needs more Hampton. Also, did you use a ref?

Waiting on new bread, this one BEEN hit bump limit

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 20:09:39 2019 No.3965310 >>3965299 No I didn't use a ref. The hand and tits need fixing I agree. Thanks for the feedback

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 20:10:49 2019 No.3965313 >>3965267 I don't know what you mean by increase the field of view. How is that a criticism of my sketch? Are you familiar with drawabox?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 20:12:57 2019 No.3965316 New thread >>3965314

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 20:58:16 2019 No.3965364 >>3965247 >>3965267 Sorry, not sorry, but some people's time is way too important to type things out like that. You, like, just have to be in the know.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 22:18:02 2019 No.3965441 >>3965230 Look at Hograth please

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 02:54:09 2019 No.3965691 File: 82 KB, 523x607, vbvnvbnvbn.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3964688 this doodle morphed into this. dont like it. gonna begin doing reference again, almost losing the path

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 11:10:55 2019 No.3966005 >>3963953 Ask /tg/ World building thread(/wbg/) I think would be your best bet.

Anonymous Mon Jun 10 14:49:24 2019 No.3966197

musician here, considering getting into drawing. I learn best by learning the fundamentals and traditional ways of learning.

That being said, what are the foundational skills to experiement with and establish?
>perpective
>anatomy
>shading(lighting?)

is that it?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 00:30:31 2019 No.3966810 >>3963242 And the shit tier body, but hey at least its done.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 00:31:27 2019 No.3966811 File: 1.70 MB, 1920x2560, IMG_20190611_035315.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3966810

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 00:33:00 2019 No.3966813 File: 1.29 MB, 1920x2560, IMG_20190611_035403.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3966811 Long muzzle or short muzzle? I think short looks cuter but longer looms more refined IMO.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 00:33:36 2019 No.3966815 File: 1.01 MB, 1920x2560, IMG_20190611_053644.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3966813 And short muzzle

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 03:30:30 2019 No.3966933 >>3966197 yea pretty much. don't forget construction.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 10:12:52 2019 No.3967207 >>3965181 the main darker faces of the boxes look good but some of the draw through lines arent at the correct angles

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