/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.3879120]

Can someone explain why the fibonacci spiral is so important in art?

[Anonymous No.3879122]

It's not

[Anonymous No.3879123]

>>3879120
Ngmi

[Anonymous No.3879124]

>>3879120
It's not necessarily a rule but it's a generally pleasing proportion that is found everywhere in nature, and it can help you a lot to break down a large composition.

[Anonymous No.3879125]

>>3879124
>yfw you enter a shame spiral

[Anonymous No.3879127]

>>3879125
You ride the spiral to the end, and may just go where noone's been
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tcW-j7KFgY

[Anonymous No.3879130]

>>3879124
>is found everywhere in nature
false.

[Anonymous No.3879132]

>>3879127
Kek based. Took me back to being 16 and angsty, my myspace page had fibonnaci sequence references because it was so cool.

[Anonymous No.3879137]

>>3879130
Dude the divine section and fractals are everywhere.

>>3879132
I've been listening to Tool for almost two decades and I still love them. Pretty much the only metal band I still listen to.

[Anonymous No.3879138]

>>3879120
it is not it, is just a meme

[Anonymous No.3879139]

>>3879132
Also have some psychedelic prog
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXAaDqPl7oY

[Anonymous No.3879146]

>>3879120
Composition

[Anonymous No.3879150]

>>3879139
Dankworks

[Anonymous No.3879182]

>>3879120
I fucking hate when people write music using numbers. It's such horseshit. Anyone who understands music can see why it's a trick. Once you're in a musical system, once you're actually using notes in a scale, the numbers arent freely dictating sounds, you're just choosing notes that are already in the same scale. And if you use it to dictate a rhythm, it's not arbitrarily timed, it's time in rhythm usinh fixed beats, quarter note, eight, 16th etc. Whether it's fibonacci or pi it's always dishonest pretentious crap and it only impresses people who don't understand music. There is no difference between that and autotune which snaps in between notes into notes in the right key.

When people do it in visual art I don't know if it's the same level of bullshit. I honestly don't. But proportion paid a big part in aesthetics so I think it's more valid in drawing and painting than in music.

[Anonymous No.3879198]

>>3879182
It is important in music because of how music scales were originally developed using numbers and math and shiet. Honestly it gets used more unintentionally then intentionally it is a pleasing sequence to look at since as you said "proportion paid a big part in aesthetics".

It is complicated since the guys who came up with this shit literally jerked off to numbers in a cave, telling people to no fap, and go away normalfags... they also were the fathers of western philosophy, art, and science so make of it what you will.

[Anonymous No.3879202]

>>3879137
this is what it looks like in nature. not to say spirals dont exist in nature but romanesco is man made.

[Anonymous No.3879884]

>>3879130
>false.

Ahem, "No u".

>>3879120
It "leads your eye" and sets up a self similar proportion not based on any measurements except for itself. As for "what is the golden ratio", absolutely nobody here will be able to answer that question. They'll tell you it's "divine" or "fractal this and that", but not what it actually is nor how it pertains to the universe.

>>3879182

>But proportion paid a big part in aesthetics

Proportion plays a part in everything. No proportion=no order.

[Anonymous No.3879908]

>>3879130
>false
false.

[Anonymous No.3879911]

>>3879120
The spiral isn't worth shit, the concept behind it and it's applications is.

[Anonymous No.3880068]

>>3879120
It's 99% a meme
It's a basic pattern in our world that currently a bunch of faggots throw around to sound smart.
It has it's place but most of what people are saying about it is false, so just ignore that shit and draw what looks nice.

[Anonymous No.3880078]

>>3879120
For the last time, the spiral is only there to help you see the flow but it´s not important. To do a golden ratio you just need to divide your page by 3, then divide the resulting column in 3 again, and again, and again and again, and again, and again until satisfied.

But at no point do you need to do a spiral, that´s just a visual clue for (You) to understand there is a certain flow to it.

[Anonymous No.3880152]

>>3879120
It's not, it's shit. The golden ratio is also shit and looks crap.

[Anonymous No.3880542]

>>3879120
The spiral tricks people. What you use it for is to see how big one element should be compared to the next. In pic you can see how the sizes of the architecture are dictated by the size of the boxes?

[Anonymous No.3880560]

>>3879120
It's just a natural looking layout. Just think of it as a helpful guideline if you feel a composition is lacking.

[Anonymous No.3880595]

The ratio is a way for you to avoid equal division. Which is boring to look at. That's all.

[Anonymous No.3880618]

>>3879120
No one mentioning paper

[Anonymous No.3881199]

>>3879198
amazing. MFA student?