/asg/ - Anime Study General

[Anonymous No.3871240]

Discord: https://discord.gg/3bwdfRk

**If you make good copies of anime *properly*, you will be able to draw good anime. If you make bad copies of anime or bad anime styled drawings from photos, you will get better at drawing bad anime. Please think carefully about how you are studying.**

This is the thread for:

1. Posting your anime studies:
>Copy exactly but don’t do it aimlessly. Integrate drawing concepts (construction, color theory, tracing, etc.) into your studies in order to pull information from the reference (anime art, figurines, tutorials) that you can later use for your original work.
>Do a single study multiple times to ensure you address all of your mistakes and memorize the correct process in your head. Attempt drawing it from memory as well.
>You will only be able to effectively deviate from your reference after doing exact copy studies accurately and consistently.
2. General anime style discussion:
>Questions about achieving certain styles/techniques/compositions etc.
>Drawing methods, study habits, resources, tutorials, tools, software, etc
>Be specific and try to post a sample of your study attempts before asking for help.

**Keep most of your personal works for /alt/ or the other critique threads. Here we should be drawing copies from good references to mindfully up our mileage, internalize appealing aesthetics, and learn from each other’s processes and knowledge.**

General Art Overview:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bz_mE9a29gsEd09TemJMNTJMWGs

Japanese Book Collection:
https://mega.nz/#F!UcNG2AiT!jeyWwP1gtQXXz6R29o5bgw!sddDyarD

Recommended Resources:
https://pastebin.com/Yz2scAEc

Previous Thread: >>3859129

[Anonymous No.3871298]

>>3871240
How do I get this good?

[Anonymous No.3871303]

anime a shit

[Anonymous No.3871321]

>>3871303
this

[Anonymous No.3871505]

Why do you want to draw cute moeblobs?

[Anonymous No.3871516]

How long would it take me to go from beginner to this in the space of a year? I need to get good enough quickly, but I don't need to be a master of art. I don't want to learn male anatomy, or how to draw from life or anything like that. I just want to draw cute anime girls.

[Anonymous No.3871521]

>>3871516
Deviant Art is the place for you my man.

[Anonymous No.3871522]

>>3871516
It would take you max time (1 year) if you worked hard as fuck and learned better than most people. Supposing you did it from imagination.

[Anonymous No.3871523]

>>3871505
God, she's so pretty

[Anonymous No.3871525]

>>3871516
2 months if someone is coaching you

t.someone who teached an anon toget at that lvl jn 3 months

[Anonymous No.3871526]

>>3871525
teach me master

[Anonymous No.3871527]

>>3871525
Do you care to post work as proof anon?

[Anonymous No.3871530]

>>3871525
what was the level the anon started at?

[Anonymous No.3871557]

>>3871505
but i wanna draw in the mob style

[Anonymous No.3871570]

>>3871505
They make me happier.

[Anonymous No.3871586]

[Anonymous No.3871587]

[Anonymous No.3871603]

>>3871240
Just starting out today and there's a lot of resources in the recommended resources pastebin. What are some books or videos you guys would recommend for a complete starter?

[Anonymous No.3871604]

>>3871603
Keys to Drawing, Bert Dodson

[Anonymous No.3871607]

>>3871604
Thanks! will start with that

[Anonymous No.3871608]

>>3871603
Keys to Drawing will do, as that other anon recommended. As a second book I'd recommend reading through Perspective made Easy, and then Design and Invention, to learn about perspective and construction.
That's more of a personal advice but don't feel forced to study in depth if it sucks the joy out of drawing for you. Books are tools and should be used as such.

[Anonymous No.3871625]

Ref anon please give us cute outfits to study

[Anonymous No.3871687]

>>3871608
Aye, thank you for the advice

[Anonymous No.3871707]

>>3871240
Does anyone have an archive of pigeon666 live-streams?

[Anonymous No.3872010]

I'll try to actually finish something.
Be gentle please

[Anonymous No.3872012]

What is the fastest way to draw anime style? If I'm going to be a pro manga-maker I need to be able to produce lots of drawings very quickly. I don't want any assistants

[Anonymous No.3872018]

>>3872012
None, if you haven’t caught on Japanese artists really like lines for the hair.
If you don’t have the precision or the training then you might as well pack up.

[Anonymous No.3872065]

>>3871516
about a week, give or take

[Anonymous No.3872208]

>>3872012
There are no shortcuts. Why does everyone keep asking the shortcut to learning something ?

[Anonymous No.3872259]

>>3872208
Because they're lazy and and they don't really care about art

[Anonymous No.3872309]

>>3872010
I'm extremely new to digital arts and how the fuck does one go about making line art? Is there a special setting or some weird layer shit everyone's keeping a secret from me? Specific brush that I have to download? What the fuck did you do to achieve that clean and sterile line quality, anon?

[Anonymous No.3872319]

>>3872010
Very good anon! The hip area is well done!

[Anonymous No.3872320]

>>3871516
SKIP MALE ANATOMY?
Pleaseeee don't do this. I'm begging you anon, just suck it up and give like 5% effort towards trying to learn guys. It'll make your girls much better, I friggin promise. I PROMISE. P-R-O-M-I-S-E.

[Anonymous No.3872332]

>>3872309
Hey, anon!
There are a bunch of ways to do lineart. But the most simple method is creating a new layer above all your sketch layer(s). Then you lower the opacity of your sketch layer until it's faded, and you draw over the lines on the lineart layer. Hopefully the quick pic attached will help. See you, around!

[Anonymous No.3872345]

>>3871516
>How long would it take me to go from beginner to this in the space of a year?
One year. You literally gave a length of time and asked how long, lmao. What's going on in your brain?

[Anonymous No.3872349]

>>3872309
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention.
If you want smooth, crisp lines, you'll probably need to use a stabilizer on a pretty high value, and then over time, you can lower it as you get used to the feel of drawing digitally. Stabilizers feel "laggy" at first. Find a setting your comfortable with and adjust over time.

[Anonymous No.3872361]

>>3872309
Forgot something else as well lol. You need to draw on an extremely large canvas (something in the 4500+ pixel range ) to get quality lines. Then you downscale the finished project to something in the 1280 x 800 range. Attached is an example of a big canvas.

[Anonymous No.3872549]

>>3872012
>>3871516
o n e y e a r

[Anonymous No.3872551]

>>3872549

[Anonymous No.3872554]

>>3871516

[Anonymous No.3872605]

>>3872554
obligatory "Soul vs. Souless" meme

[Anonymous No.3872611]

>>3872554
god this half rendered half anime shit every "pro" chinese artist draws is so disgusting

[Anonymous No.3872613]

>>3872554
skills are there, but they're wasting on this boring shit.

[Anonymous No.3872650]

>>3872549
>>3872551
didnt this guy take art classes?

[Anonymous No.3872653]

>>3872611

[Anonymous No.3872656]

>>3872332
your handwriting is crap

[Anonymous No.3872661]

>>3872554
I gotta try again with the grayscale stuff. This guy paints with grays then slaps colors last. I never could do it, though. The colors come out unsaturated and when I try to up the colors, the values get lost. It's frustrating. I'm getting tired of linearting so I've just been painting the areas I dont want to spend effort in like hair and hands, but mine is not this level.

[Anonymous No.3872679]

>>3872309
I use the standard CSP g pen with these settings. Use a hard eraser to erase out mistakes (when 2 lines connect there's always a weird mess) and for lineweight i make a new layer and do it manually, with the same 8 pixel g pen.
And that's it i guess

>>3872319
Thanks, lad!

[Anonymous No.3872692]

>>3872679

>"accidentally" including a anime boob in the pic

is this the artistic equivalent of thot posting?

[Anonymous No.3872709]

You guys are weeabo idiots
What good is it to simply copy??
Learn to draw first instead of copying a style
Its like learning to play prog piano before actually learning how to play basic piano and any theory

[Anonymous No.3872712]

how do you know it's the style that is being copied and not the technique? you analyze the process done, see why the rationale behind a specific decision/technique, how it works, and then mold it to your own style. Sounds to me you're a judgemental little shit.

[Anonymous No.3872716]

>>3872709
> missing the point of the prog genre entirely.
Lmfao

[Anonymous No.3872720]

>>3872692
It's the same drawing i was working when he first replied me.

[Anonymous No.3872829]

>>3872716
>missing the entire point of the post

You dont learn a genre before the basics retard

[Anonymous No.3872830]

>>3872720

Okay, fine then.

[Anonymous No.3872842]

>>3872829
Well, I’m too dumb to understand Loomis, so checkmate

[Anonymous No.3872858]

some pretty good tips in some of these production notes for nausica. character sheets and other concept/prop design for a few different things but not always very high res
http://livlily.blogspot.com/2010/11/model-sheets-production-drawings.html

[Anonymous No.3873090]

Copying asanagi pepehands

[Anonymous No.3873104]

>>3873090
jesus, all that chicken scratch. try using undo until you get a line you like.

[Anonymous No.3873157]

First time drawing with grayscale, it's pretty annoying trying to get the colors back using overlay and screen layers but it came out better than my normal stuff i think, maybe a bit muddy.
Also i think i constructed the girl on the right wrong or something, maybe broke her neck, i'm not sure.

[Anonymous No.3873173]

>>3872650
ye

[Anonymous No.3873174]

>>3872679
What program is that I'm really new

[Anonymous No.3873175]

>>3873174
csp

[Anonymous No.3873178]

>>3873104
horrible advice he wont get a line he likes bc he doesnt even know how to draw properly they are just gonna sit there fumbling over a single sketch for an hour do u even draw anon

[Anonymous No.3873200]

>>3873178
That sketch took me under an hour lmfao.

[Anonymous No.3873204]

>>3873104
more like he needs to utilize his eraser tool more. You can go ham on your messy roughs to get things right as long as you know how to clean it for the final lineart

[Anonymous No.3873218]

>>3872653
go draw your lifeless dolls chong

[Anonymous No.3873224]

>>3872309
Don't use stabilizers. It's the whole reason Western illustrators lines look monotonous and boring.

[Anonymous No.3873229]

>>3871505
It’s the optimal style, gets the most likes and can singlehandedly carry projects.

[Anonymous No.3873234]

>>3872549
Still looks like DA tier crap, but the speed is impressive.

[Anonymous No.3873239]

>>3873234
Pyw

[Anonymous No.3873245]

>>3873239
hes not wrong you retard

[Anonymous No.3873259]

>>3873245
it's not nice to reply to yourself

[Anonymous No.3873297]

?????????????????????????

[Anonymous No.3873475]

first time posting here,
Trying to develop a quick style that would let me make an illustration a full illustration a day, still looks awkward at the moment, I'm not looking for a final polish yet.
I'll let you guys updated on the progress
cheers

[Anonymous No.3873498]

>>3873173
so the only way to get good quickly is to go to an art school.Dang thats a lot of money

[Anonymous No.3873508]

>>3873475
fucking hell Anon that is amazing!

[Anonymous No.3873543]

>>3873475
Did you just trace someone in a photo and slap on an anime face lmao

[Anonymous No.3873582]

>>3873508
thnx :)

>>3873543
lol no, some ref was used tho and bg is photobashed :)
I'm trying to develop my image making skills; develop better composition and storytelling in my pictures at the moment.

thanks for checking my stuff, cheers

[Anonymous No.3873923]

Is there a loomis alternative that adapts more to anime/eastern style instead of western realism?

I really want to learn anatomy, but I don't want it to taint my future drawings with 'westerness'.

[Anonymous No.3873967]

>>3873923
Just study bodies and faces, and the simplify them

[Anonymous No.3873984]

>>3872010
Got tired of rendering so i just erased and blurred unfinished parts
I'll post it anyway

[Anonymous No.3873991]

>>3873984
Nice! How do you do the streaks in the hair?

[Anonymous No.3874022]

>>3873984
good stuff anon keep it up!

[Anonymous No.3874037]

>>3873923
holy retard anime construction is loomis

[Anonymous No.3874128]

>>3873991
I used a regular hard round brush with size pressure sensitivity and stacked different colors in separate layers.
>>3874022
Thanks, anon

[Anonymous No.3874138]

Going to keep posting asanagi drawings until he notices me.

[Anonymous No.3874142]

>>3874138
stop chicken scratching BAKA
t. asanagi

[Anonymous No.3874150]

>>3873984
Where did you learn to draw
Loomis?

[Anonymous No.3874158]

>>3874150
Literally in this thread + observing works of artists i like. Never touched loomis but i've read hampton, it's pretty good

[Anonymous No.3874164]

>>3871240
How do you guys draw all the bangs for anime hair? Looks hard.

[Anonymous No.3874318]

>>3874164
very carefully

[Anonymous No.3874366]

>>3873984
V nice! Didn't see the finished product in the discord, glad to have found it. Keep it up anon

[Anonymous No.3874406]

>>3874164
You just do it

[Anonymous No.3874412]

>>3874164

[Anonymous No.3874828]

>>3871625
Ok

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[Anonymous No.3874836]

[Anonymous No.3874837]

[Anonymous No.3874838]

[Anonymous No.3874839]

[Anonymous No.3874840]

[Anonymous No.3874841]

stylize them however you like

[Anonymous No.3874851]

>>3872679
I only have SAI, what brush settings do I need to look like this?

[Anonymous No.3874856]

you fags hate k-pop but there are so many inspos in kpop fashion you are missing out on, and it's also fun seeing beautiful women sing and dance
>inb4 hypebeast is fashion
even still. People there change haircolors/hairstyles/attire themes so much, it's treasure trove for ideas.

[Anonymous No.3874881]

>>3874856
I don't hate them. I love their street wears

[Anonymous No.3874907]

>>3872661
Try using LAB colors instead of RGB or CMYK. It'll take some fucking, but adjustments in LAB don't affect values the same.

[Anonymous No.3875063]

You guys are fucking dumb as shit for skipping fundamentals and going straight for stylisation. Retards.

[Anonymous No.3875078]

>>3875063
let them find out for themselves

[Anonymous No.3875080]

>>3874828
Gonna do a gondola themed study on this one. Thanks, anon.

[Anonymous No.3875107]

>>3875063
the whole point of learning fundamentals is so you can apply them in a style that you enjoy, retard

[Anonymous No.3875115]

>>3875107
You know damn well 90% of the people in these threads don't give a fuck about fundamentals look at this guy for fuck's sake >>3871516
You morons are just putting the cart before the horse as the years melt away.

[Anonymous No.3875116]

>>3875107
Have Loomis

[Anonymous No.3875121]

>>3875115
The problem is that fundamentals are boring and toxic to a beginner artists progress. You don't study advanced calculus before learning 2+2 so why the fuck should anyone study fundamentals?

[Anonymous No.3875123]

>>3875107
but that's exactly his point..

[Anonymous No.3875124]

>>3875121
??????

[Anonymous No.3875126]

>>3875121
Anon, read what you wrote again

[Anonymous No.3875128]

>>3875123
his post reads that you should stop personal pieces that you enjoy and learn fundamentals instead
my point is that its possible and preferable to do both

[Anonymous No.3875156]

>>3875121
wow u got me good bro happy abril fools asfekajlvkzjxlckjvcv

[Anonymous No.3875186]

>>3868258
I'm guilty of not following the blue lines I did. It's for helping me place the eyes but most of the time I try to move them around unti it looks right. If I still can't get the proper placement, I'll add more construction lines or start over. Like what >>3868335 said, this takes time.

Also, loomis helps with the basic head construction but studying the reilly abstraction helped me with the overall placement of the face. I feel loomis is too vague for eye/nose/mouth placement. Don't hesitate to try other head/face construction other than loomis

>>3868103
>are you using a screenless tablet?
>it's almost got that g-pen quality to it
yeah, an old wacom bamboo. I'm using any of the gpen brushes from this guy
https://assets.clip-studio.com/en-us/search?user=Hmm...&order=new

>what are you thoughts about getting used to a tablet?
It gets disorienting at first but always use it often to improve your hand and eye coordination. Placing the tablet in front of the monitor also helps

[Anonymous No.3875237]

>>3875121
>toxic
heh
While I entirely agree that the "fundies or die/grind figures 20hrs a day" mentality is bad, having at least some understanding of construction, perspective and anatomy goes a long way. Which is why putting at least a couple artbooks under your belt would be good for anyone, really.

[Anonymous No.3875267]

>>3875121
He's right you know.<div class="like-perk-cnt"><div style="text-align:right"><img alt="" width="32" height="32" src="//s.4cdn.org/image/temp/verified.png"></div></div>

[Anonymous No.3875274]

>>3875121
I almost want to like this comment

[Anonymous No.3875400]

Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.3875401]

>>3875400
Did you compress this image 10 times or is that just how you color clothes

[Anonymous No.3875404]

>>3875401
Fogot to tell that I havent worked on shadings yet so I just slap them there for now and finish later

[Anonymous No.3875406]

>>3875400
the shading is absolutely trash, his head/face looks like it was smashed or something and i hope that isn't a fucking katana,her legs are fucking huge fucking kek

[Anonymous No.3875407]

>>3875400
Looks good, the shading on the clothes is a bit off putting though- slightly pillow shaded

[Anonymous No.3875415]

>>3875400
Those eyes are trying to escape, free them

[Anonymous No.3875442]

>>3875400

[Anonymous No.3875460]

>>3875442
dear lord

[Anonymous No.3875467]

>>3875442
On the bright side. You can draw eyes and hair pretty nice.

[Anonymous No.3875480]

>>3875407
that's actually almost the opposite of pillow shading

[Anonymous No.3875508]

>>3875400
>>3875442

Keep going. I'd recommend doing more studies of clothes and face shapes. You've got the right idea, but you need a bit more practise (and that's fine, just keep it up and you'll be great in no time.)

The colours you picked work well together.

[Anonymous No.3875550]

Literally did this on 1 layer so I didn't bother to clean anything. Used design doll for pose. Tldr; I'm bad at drawing.

[Anonymous No.3875557]

>>3875550
Never draw eyes in front of the hair! When using design doll, try tracing over the pose with simplified shapes so you can get a feel for how body parts move

[Anonymous No.3875559]

>>3875550
big yikes

[Anonymous No.3875562]

>>3875550
stiff as fuck, don't use design doll and fuck i keep giving likes instead of replying

[Anonymous No.3875571]

>>3875480
I used the wrong term then, what I meant was the shadows looked like they were placed without thought and were mostly used to just fill up space where it “felt right”

[Anonymous No.3875575]

My pink pen died half way through

[Anonymous No.3875585]

>>3875550
so this is the power of a 16 year old

[Anonymous No.3875594]

>>3875585
Lmao y'all hold grudges

[Anonymous No.3875598]

>>3875550
no amount of halftones is gonna hide that chicken scratch; do what >>3875557 said. tools like design doll are supposed to help you draw more confidently, not to be used as a crutch

[Anonymous No.3875600]

I'm too dumb to fully analyze styles, what constitutes the current average appealing anime grill style? Any examples?

[Anonymous No.3875608]

>>3875600
Are you sure you're too dumb, or you just haven't watched enough anime?

[Anonymous No.3875740]

>>3875575
hi sycra

[Anonymous No.3875847]

>>3875600
Depends on who you're pandering and gonna be making money from
Try tracing/reproducing this cutie

[Anonymous No.3875920]

>>3865396
I'm back. Have I gotten any better?

[Anonymous No.3875928]

I just wanna do that whole tkmiz thing

[Anonymous No.3875945]

Will I really get better just by tracing anime I like instead of attending art class?

[Anonymous No.3875946]

>>3875740
I actually feel kind of flattered by that, I like his style

[Anonymous No.3876007]

>>3875121
>mfw waking up to this
response to my comment
>mfw this really IS the mentality of ALL Western anime beginner artists
Lmfao you will keep moving in circles, thinking in circles, crab nigga

[Anonymous No.3876010]

>>3875128
No, learn to read retarded fuck nut. How did you infer that from what I wrote?

[Anonymous No.3876011]

>>3874138
Get better line control you ding dong, I’d recommend drawing trad and being more deliberate with your lines. If you get sorta familiar with pencil, ramp up the difficulty and start drawing with pen.

[Anonymous No.3876015]

>>3876007
all mentality of the average anime /beg/ is they just want the quickest way to git gud so they can draw porn of their waifu. Hell, just check their discord server and see what it's like

[Anonymous No.3876119]

>>3876015
I’d eat that

[Anonymous No.3876125]

>>3876015
what a chad

[Anonymous No.3876128]

best book

[Anonymous No.3876165]

>>3876119
>>3876125
It's fake

[Anonymous No.3876170]

>>3876015
the server doesnt even try to git gud. I shit on aqua but at least he still tries to help people. The other, though. They don't even help themselves

[Anonymous No.3876173]

>>3876165
boo

[Anonymous No.3876195]

>>3876165
I wish I could eat that

[Anonymous No.3876223]

>>3876170
I know aqua mean well but most of the members are just plain insufferable

[Anonymous No.3876725]

Why couldn't I have been born a jap

[Anonymous No.3876877]

>>3875920
very nice, please draw asuka next time

[Anonymous No.3876907]

Any nigger here have some reference on eyes?

[Anonymous No.3876920]

>>3876907
I think this ones quite good

[Anonymous No.3876933]

>>3876907
what does that even mean. just look at anime pictures with eyes you like.
also im not a nigger

[Anonymous No.3876956]

>>3876933
I mean, how the shape morphs in perspective. Animay eyes don't make a sense to me because they are all 2d, so I can't draw them in certain angles.

[Anonymous No.3877009]

Currently studying waist/hips and I just found this material.
Any thoughts on this? it seems pretty neat even though I can't read Japanese

https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=manga&illust_id=21341682
https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=manga&illust_id=21380994

[Anonymous No.3877067]

>>3876165
I'd still eat that

[Anonymous No.3877071]

You must first become anime

[Anonymous No.3877087]

>>3877071
I would if I could

[Anonymous No.3877099]

>>3877009
Can't read nipponese either but i can understand that it's explaining how the waist has those muscles/parts which are outlined.

[Anonymous No.3877148]

>>3877009
it's pretty stupid. i don't know your level but get actual anatomy in languages you understand. i highly recommend something like steve huston's making every mark count book which is very beg friendly, scott eaton's videos, richer/bammes/peck/anatomy for sculptors for reference.

that tutorial is like the equivalent of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXNmBiNkcUQ

[Anonymous No.3877157]

>>3877009
>>3877099
The blind leading the blind
What this guy says >>3877148

[Anonymous No.3877158]

>>3877148
posted the wrong image.

by learning real anatomy, you can figure out what all the shortcuts artists use when you see lines or tone in places. anatomy is building a vocabulary and becoming more eloquent over the gesture/construction/figure.

[Anonymous No.3877227]

trying to freehand beg perspective

[Anonymous No.3877234]

>>3877148
Thanks, but unfortunately I have spent all day trying to reproduce that material.
I am a beginner and I had already looked for some anatomy books, but I do not know how to put into practice what I read.
At the moment I'm just looking for referenced body parts that I have more difficulty and I try to copy them as exercise since I can not create anything by the imagination yet.

[Anonymous No.3877242]

>>3877234
>I am a beginner and I had already looked for some anatomy books, but I do not know how to put into practice what I read.
then how can you put into practice what you see just because it's on pixiv? fucking retard

[Anonymous No.3877256]

>>3877242
Be nice to newbies, anon.

[Anonymous No.3877409]

clearly i have no idea what's going on with the hair but i gave it a shot

[Anonymous No.3877420]

>>3877242
take your meds, crab-kun

[Anonymous No.3877521]

>>3877409
Great job, anon.

[Anonymous No.3877534]

[Anonymous No.3877605]

[Drake reacting negatively] spending ages wasting time in this thread

[Drake reacting positively] actually practicing drawing

[Anonymous No.3877607]

>>3871240
In the book collection, there's two Pose Catalog DVD-ROMs for men and women in kimono - does anyone know where I can find more of these?

I've done a bit of Googling but I can't find any more uploads of anything similar. I know that HyperAngle does something similar (including a DVD ROM with loads of the photos on it) (or at least, the HyperAngle book I own did) but the way that you can flick through the angles of the different photos is really useful.

[Anonymous No.3877618]

>>3872709
>Its like learning to play prog piano before actually learning how to play basic piano and any theory
you are a fucking retard and you don't know anything about music. fuck you faggot. learning music by ear is THE most important thing to do as a musician.

[Anonymous No.3877699]

>>3877158
im studying the same book, and it bugs me that there are 2 "dimples" in the lower back instead of protrusions in the psis area. You see this in your picture of the woman's back. It only protruded when she bent her back to the ground (the pic with a child)

[Anonymous No.3877718]

>>3877605
[this post] reddit

[Anonymous No.3877980]

>>3877699
because bony protrusions become depressions when there's enough fat or muscle around them. it happens on a few other parts of the body as well such as when men get really muscular the inner corner of the scapula becomes a depresison

[Anonymous No.3877995]

Can Sai accomplish everything I need? I don’t understand what people mean by brushes or anything

[Anonymous No.3878011]

>>3877980
Okay thank you. I'll keep this in mind.

[Anonymous No.3878205]

Red pill me some with this butt fuck retarded question of mine. Is it impossible for foreigners to actually make authentic looking anime/manga on a professional level and if it were really possible do the Japanese have a severely easier time honing such skill in comparison?

[Anonymous No.3878346]

>>3878205
Your anime drawing skills are inversely proportional to the size of your dick.

[Anonymous No.3878372]

>>3878205
The japanese have an easier time honing the skill a foreigner can do it too if they know what the japanese do and practice it

[Anonymous No.3878390]

Rediscovered an old drawing of mine because of another thread. Anyone know any anime artists that follow this kind of style ? I know it’s pretty common but for some reason I find it difficult to find

[Anonymous No.3878405]

>>3878390
Kingdom Hearts hair right there.

[Anonymous No.3878429]

>>3878405
Dude ! I’m pretty sure that’s exactly the art style I was looking for, thank you

[Anonymous No.3880090]

>>3878205
If you follow the exact process an authentic japanese person undertakes, you should in theory be able to get a super similar result in terms of art style.

That's how I approach it, study how the authentic anime/manga drawing process goes and then replicate it exactly.
It can be harder to figure out this process if you do not speak japanese, as japan is kind off closed off in a way if you don't understand their language.

[Anonymous No.3880148]

>>3872679
You use no additional settings to tgr individual brush tool?

[Anonymous No.3880257]

>>3876907

[Anonymous No.3880259]

>>3880257

[Anonymous No.3880342]

>>3872611
this, its all so lifeless and stiff

[Anonymous No.3880381]

https://youtu.be/szeqGXp5LFg

Figured you guys might want this. Obscure channel but it’s translated.

[Anonymous No.3880405]

The more i learn about loomis the worse i get at drawing anime faces

[Anonymous No.3880413]

>>3877605
based and upvoted

[Anonymous No.3880415]

>>3880405
Same, my stuff is being rambled and my process is starting to become inconsistent. I'm holding back, though. I'm trying to still hold onto anime. Perhaps find a middle ground in this mess like everybody else

[Anonymous No.3880441]

>>3880405
You don't "get" Loomis then
Learn more

[Anonymous No.3880559]

[Anonymous No.3880771]

Chicken scratch anon is back. Been drawing for like 4-5 months lul.

[Anonymous No.3880773]

>>3880771
bad size sry amigos

[Anonymous No.3880786]

>>3880559
Less Loomis

[Anonymous No.3880791]

>>3880559
Yare Yare Daze

[Anonymous No.3880798]

>>3880559
n o s e

[Anonymous No.3880813]

>>3880786
wrong
the answer is always more Loomis

[Anonymous No.3880857]

>>3880773
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMC0Cx3Uk84

[Anonymous No.3881394]

>>3880773
I can do the finishing if you want, just give me a the name of the character and the name of the anime.

[Anonymous No.3881497]

Does anyone know any good anime artists that do yoshinari-esque rough pencily sketches, but digitally?

[Anonymous No.3881619]

There's a link in the OPs post to a whole bunch of anime drawing books. How to make best use of them? Should I go and study (read, redraw, understand, make my own pieces) a book by book or is it more efficient to just open them, when I'm trying to draw something related?

[Anonymous No.3881791]

>>3881619
I don't know anon, did I send you here from /beg/?

You should definitely read and draw, solely reading isn't sufficient.

See what works for you. But things like hands and foots probably will need their own study accompanied with its own isolated practice drawings.

I still need to do those too though, but I just started out so it's fine. Be sure to buy a cheap mirror for drawing, it's worth the price for it's usefulness.

[Anonymous No.3881842]

quick dumb question, but is instagram an ok place to post sfw anime drawings?

[Anonymous No.3881938]

Can someone post backgrounds?

[Anonymous No.3881981]

>>3881791
Thank you for a reply. I'm probably not the anon.

I'm pretty much overwhelmed at the amount of the materials. I guess I should just make up my mind and mindfully grind.

[Anonymous No.3882052]

>>3873157
what are h&b doing on sucy s bed?

[Anonymous No.3882053]

>>3881497
me in 10 years

[Anonymous No.3882074]

>>3882052
i couldn't find a ref of their room so i just used ako's room

[Anonymous No.3882132]

how much time is roughly put into getting good at this shit and what age is it generally when people reach a professional level to some degree

[Anonymous No.3882133]

>>3882132
You need to define "this shit" and "professional level".

[Anonymous No.3882170]

>>3882132
8-10 years, you may think i'm shitting but that's the time it took 2 hentai artists that I follow on pixiv to become "proffesional"

[Anonymous No.3882238]

>>3882074
lwa chamber of time offers you the entire 3d school you can walk in. every girls' room, every classroom, everything you see in show and more (some few places require certain gameplay to be unlocked). you dont even need to play the game, except for the first few cutscenes and level, which you cant skip. but after those you are free to roam around and ignore the quest

[Anonymous No.3882341]

>>3882170
Please link the pixiv artists.

[Anonymous No.3882343]

>>3881981
>https://mega.nz/#F!UcNG2AiT!jeyWwP1gtQXXz6R29o5bgw!sddDyarD
I would start with (Date Naoto) Deconstruction Illustrated if I may make a recommendation.

[Anonymous No.3882362]

>>3882170
https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=2057044

https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=2057044

There are likely more but they both started in 2008 and became really good around 2014-2016.

[Anonymous No.3882474]

>>3882362
That's the same link twice.

[Anonymous No.3882478]

>>3875406
There’s a way to critique without being an asshole, you know.

[Anonymous No.3882494]

>>3882474
oh shit https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=493189&p=2

[Anonymous No.3882502]

>>3882362
honestly the only real improvement i see for Asanagi is his rendering, also i don't think he started in 2008

[Anonymous No.3882508]

>>3873475
Good shit, keep up the good work anon, looking forward to hearing your experience and input in the future

[Anonymous No.3882514]

>>3882508
Sauce?

[Anonymous No.3882525]

>>3873984
please finish rendering the coochie
>>3875400
Proportions are wonky af. Try to do more gesture drawing, with an idea of getting a better feel for the form and proportions of the figure. Also lacks perspective, so do some perspective exercises-- a bit of practice in those areas, and you'll be pretty solid in your foundations for drawing anime.
>>3875575
Very nice! A very easy perspective to draw, but the linework is very nice through the torso. Cute butt too. The shading adds a nice layer of dimension, like the choice of a hot and cold color for obvious reasons. Those sketches in the background however, suggest you can use the same advice I gave to the other anon. Keep up the good work!
>>3875920
Jesus Anon how'd you make so much progress in just 7 days, you're doing great. Keep up the good work, and don't forget to study the figure from life!
>>3877227
Looks good anon-- guess your practice is paying off.
>>3881497
Fukken beautiful
>>3882514
No idea, picked it up here a while back and forgot the sauce, but google says it's namajake anatomy

[Anonymous No.3882538]

>>3877227
Felt bad for not giving you criticism, so here I go: the hair lacks form, it's pretty wonky-- since the rest of the figure has such great feeling of dimension and weight, for the hair to just kind of be there like that draws the eye, and is so far the worst part imho. Hiding the right hand is also cowardly, unless she's supposed to be flicking the bean, which is great, but that hand feels off-- either it's too far down, in which case the angle feels off compared to the pubic area and torso, or you need to pull it up a bit so we start to see first knuckle. Otherwise loving it so far, and hope you do another perspective of the same pose for practice, and to show off more of what's going on with that right hand-- if you catch my drift.

[Anonymous No.3882550]

>>3882170
yeah from what i've seen of rei it's roughly the same time frame and she seemed like she was always an artist as a kid too

[Anonymous No.3882558]

>>3882538
>yfw ywn see the female figure in this pose irl
fucking kill me already

[Anonymous No.3882563]

>>3882558
Well, and I don't think this is too much of a long shot, but that's probably why you're posting on the 4chan board about drawing stacked anime girls. Real talk tho-- I can't imagine someone actually believing this in current year. Women out here fucking bottom of the barrel dudes, shaving their heads half off, getting piercings everywhere, tattoos, just totally self-destructive, and you're fucking glum over here like an dumass "oh boo hoo i never got coochie." Go out there and GET SOME, King.

[Anonymous No.3882576]

>>3882558
Post your frustrations in /r9k/ buddy, not here.

[Anonymous No.3882639]

>>3882576
What's the difference

[Anonymous No.3882663]

>>3882538
Thanks for the feedback, anon. But i gave up this piece.
>>3882525
>please finish rendering the coochie
i didn't see it soon enough, already posted it so whatever. I'll pay more attention in the next one.

[Anonymous No.3882668]

>>3882563
i wish it was that easy

[Anonymous No.3882671]

>>3882663
Is she masturbating?
Does she have nipplepiercings?

[Anonymous No.3882676]

>>3882671
>is she masturbating?
>figure is clearly 3rd knuckle deep in herself
I don't know anon, you tell me.

[Anonymous No.3882677]

>>3882671
Yes. Yes. Hand angle is wrong tho, one of the reasons i dropped
>>3882676
Chill out, anon.

[Anonymous No.3882695]

>>3882676
no bullying autistic people anon

[Anonymous No.3882700]

>>3882677
Sorry, I was merely attempting to conduct a vision test, clearly, this man has trouble seeing.
>one of the reasons i dropped
You seem to drop drawings a lot, do you ever try to fix them, or ever return to them? Seems like a bad practice imho, restatements are good for learning, and a rule like "dropping when there's a single mistake," seems like it would be bad both for learning, but also for putting out finished work, and thus for business.

[Anonymous No.3882712]

>>3882362
>>3882494
Slow and steady

[Anonymous No.3882718]

>>3882700
>I was merely attempting to conduct a vision test
I loled. But anyway, even if i figured out what the fuck is going on with the legs and the left hand, i feel like the composition/idea is not worth it. I know what you mean by revisiting stuff, i do go back and fix mistakes, but i think this piece is gonna end up boring.
>You seem to drop drawings a lot
You're right, i'm working on that. Just out of curiosity, does that happen to you? I mean when you have an idea and after 2 hours commited to a piece it suddenly looks so dumb and you can't stand looking at it
At least i like the character, i'm gonna call her Ivy and do more of her later. I just need to start planning the compositions better next time i commit to a piece

[Anonymous No.3882724]

>>3882718
>>3882663
Drawing looks fine to me.
I don't see anything wrong with it to be honest, I thought the masturbation thing was a bit weird so I asked, but other then that it looks just fine.

How much time did you spend on this drawing?

[Anonymous No.3882729]

>>3882724
I didn't count it, but i guess 4 hours changing everything a lot of times. The only thing i know is that it was way longer than usual, perspective is hard, i should have used reference

[Anonymous No.3882735]

>>3882718
I guarantee you, even if it feels like polishing turds, if you were to render that one, it would surely... sell!
>I mean when you have an idea and after 2 hours commited to a piece it suddenly looks so dumb and you can't stand looking at it
That's why I haven't committed 2 hours to drawing anything-- i'm the "owner of hundreds of figure sketches, not a finished one in sight" kind of guy-- so you're already miles ahead of me. I'm trying now to just get back into the swing of drawing, and then to actually start finishing stuff. I've only practiced pen to paper style, so I get the part where it looks dumb, and then I just move on-- but if I used digital, I would work and rework it until I liked it for sure. Or if I was posting it to social media, I would polish it enough for general consumption. Gotta remember, the viewing public aren't nearly as picky or hard on us as we are on ourselves.

[Anonymous No.3882748]

>>3882735
>i'm the "owner of hundreds of figure sketches, not a finished one in sight" kind of guy-- so you're already miles ahead of me
Oh boy...pic related

also, that stuff you're posting, is it worth reading? Looks cool

[Anonymous No.3882760]

>>3882748
>pic related
Dude you got plenty of good material there, polish those and render them, post them and people will notice-- especially if you're frequent and consistent. Those are good enough to be consumed and poplar!

On the namajake anatomy stuff? Idk, never read it-- don't even know if it's in English, I'm just reposting the images I found a while back here. I doubt you'd find it useful, you're pretty good already, but you could certainly copy them and perhaps play around with them a bit-- would probably be fun.

[Anonymous No.3882766]

>>3882748
Actually, on closer inspection, namajake anatomy could be useful to you-- you draw a lot of relatively simple poses from simple perspectives, maybe if you try occluding the form, and forcing perspective, you'll make the poses more interesting, and perhaps challenging? That's currently what I'm trying to do to-- draw dynamic poses, and occlude the forms of the pelvis and torso and arms &etc.

[Anonymous No.3882779]

>>3882663
>>3882748
Anon, I fixed your drawing for you.

[Anonymous No.3882780]

>>3882760
>>3882766
That's exactly what i'm trying and failing to do. I'm watching Krenz Cushart lectures for perspective, but it's hardest thing i've ever tried to learn so far. Good suggestion tho, good luck with your studs

[Anonymous No.3882782]

>>3882779
Thank you so much!

[Anonymous No.3882783]

>>3882780
Why are you studying characters in fisheye perspective, you'll probably never use that perspective for character drawing.

[Anonymous No.3882784]

>>3882782
Here is my non-joke advice.

[Anonymous No.3882792]

>>3882783
That's a personal study from krenz, it's on his deviant art. His lectures and gumroad don't cover fish eye as far as i know. Looks cool anyway right
>>3882784
i'm not deleting the file, so it's possible i guess. Thanks anyways dude

[Anonymous No.3882801]

>>3882792
Don't get too lost in perspective though.

Did my penisman in rainboots make you kek?

[Anonymous No.3882805]

>>3882801
Why? Perspective is the shit. It's the most important thing separating you from being shitted weekly by crabs nitpicking flaws, like anons do with Kyle
>did my penisman in rainboots make you kek?
not at all, he's hot af!

[Anonymous No.3882808]

>>3882805
Forgot to say that images with good perspective look so much cooler compared to the same-face-same-pose regular pixiv artists

[Anonymous No.3882814]

>>3882808
If it's not sprinkled with pretty colours, resin-esque rendering and pseudo realism anime face like Sakimichan's pictures, it won't ever gain traction among the normies and your follower count will remain the same forever. It's a mad, mad world we live in.

[Anonymous No.3882816]

>>3882801
on the other hand, you could lose yourself in perspective completely.

>>3882805
>>3882808
gmi. i'm cheering for you, rival-kun

[Anonymous No.3882820]

>>3882816
sadly we probably ngmi, >>3882816 is right
Keep it up anon

[Anonymous No.3882825]

>>3882820
Fuck, i meant >>3882814
sorry for so many double replies, if the thread enters bump limit i'll make a new one to compensate it

[Anonymous No.3882831]

>>3882780
that looks fun to do

[Anonymous No.3882835]

>>3882825
Don't be sorry, anon. It's all good because I've given up on making it long times ago. Nowadays I just occasionally spend 2 hours on a drawing before quitting because of frustration, then go to /ic/ to pour out my bitterness. Despite the negative things I'm making other people read, I honestly hope that no one else falls to the same pit as I have and that includes you. Don't give up yet anon you still have hope in you.

[Anonymous No.3882849]

>>3882816
Is that yours? Were you referencing any books/tuts when you're doing that? If so what is it?

[Anonymous No.3882850]

>>3882835
>>3882820
>>3882780
Why not just do both? Ya'll have definitely motivated me to hit my drawing hard as fuck tomorrow, to make them gainz, so see ya'll around. I'm looking forward to having some nice things to post.

[Anonymous No.3882862]

>>3882849
the 5 waist-up drawings at the top are referenced from "(Date Naoto) Deconstruction Illustrated" which you can find in the mega linked in OP. the rest is just practice from imagination. the ones done in pen uses some of scott robertson's section drawing techniques which you can find in his "How to Draw" book

[Anonymous No.3882865]

>>3882835
>>3882850
Let's keep grinding. Who knows what could happen in 1-2 years of hard work

[Anonymous No.3883108]

>>3874830

[Anonymous No.3883131]

>>3883108
I miss your art, anon!

[Anonymous No.3883185]

>>3874831

[Anonymous No.3883212]

how to get this style? what methods did the artist use? i love it but ive only ever worked with lines and light cel-shaded colors..

[Anonymous No.3883214]

>>3883212
oops. this one

[Anonymous No.3883228]

>>3883214
Just remove the inking layer after you done coloring bro

[Anonymous No.3883257]

>>3883185
I really dig this kind of lineart style! I'm still very new to the digital scene and I don't know about pretty much anything technical. Can you please show me your brush settings, anon? It looks really neat, crisp yet comfy at the same time!

[Anonymous No.3883336]

>>3883108
>>3883185
You get it. Where can i follow you?
>>3883214
At some point you start rendering over the linear layer, some japs do it on twitch

[Anonymous No.3883337]

>>3872709
You never learned to play music uh?

[Anonymous No.3883389]

>>3883337
not him but i play guitar and learning a solo by ear without knowing the scales and some basic music theory it's retarded and takes 10 times longer than it would other wise

[Anonymous No.3883453]

>>3883336
what do you mean by rendering over the linear layer? what even is the linear layer?

[Anonymous No.3883516]

Animes

[Anonymous No.3883519]

>>3883516
Act II

[Anonymous No.3883521]

what is the name of that guy that do some loomis but with anime style? he is japanese

[Anonymous No.3883527]

>>3883336
>>3883453
Sorry, wrong typo. I meant lineart.

[Anonymous No.3883533]

>>3883521
You gotta be more specific there, like an example of their work

[Anonymous No.3883577]

>>3883516
on the left, the neck cartilage is fair pronounced, ear placement is a little weird. female foreheads tend to be more vertical than sloped male foreheads so that face ends up looking a bit masculine.

>>3883519
very long neck, ear very far forward, could use some hinting of the cheekbone under her left eye.

>>3883521
most anime is loomis anyway but i assume you mean pin 2d or whatever the chinaman's name is.

[Anonymous No.3883645]

>>3883533
his name is hito or hiko something
>>3883577
didn't know that guy, thanks

[Anonymous No.3883732]

Bump limit check

[Anonymous No.3883742]

New thread >>3883735

[Anonymous No.3884050]

>>3883389
He's the retarded one here.

On art the fundies are but a cycle, you learn something, you apply it and keep revisiting the fundies. Copying is an excellent way to keep practicing while you cycle and recycle your fundies.

To keep just studying fundies is why most people will never ever git gud at art, they don't practice and they don't have fun.

[Anonymous No.3885376]

>>3871240
i-i wanna draw anime again but i'm not good abd the one time i found a art style i forgot it and could not copy it anymore