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3867831 No.3867831 [Reply] [Original]

The Japanese are finally starting to take notice about the west.

>> No.3867833
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3867833

>>3867831
The image in question that upset a bunch of people.

>> No.3867837
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3867837

>>3867831
/ic/ - Blogging and Shitposting

>> No.3867839

>>3867831
based

>> No.3867841

>>3867833
I don’t see the problem here, what’s the problem?

>> No.3867846

>>3867833
Literally nothing wrong there. I'd question the thought process of people who say otherwise.

>> No.3867849

>>3867833
Her pose is definitely sexualized though.

>> No.3867859

>>3867849
Isn't the entire design sexualized? What's a teen girl doing in a skin tight suit? Not that I personally mind it but if we're going by the new Western Caliphate logic

>> No.3867860

>>3867849
So? It's not real. Are you going to tell people what they can and can't draw? That's the real issue here. Not the age of something that doesn't exist.

>> No.3867871

>>3867849
No? the pose is a typical spidey pose with a bit of teenage sas put on top of it, if you see that as sexualized then you have some issues dude.

>> No.3867873

>>3867849
Here we go again. Superheroes wear skin tight suits, no matter the pose it's going to look sexual. They're fucking naked.

>> No.3867990
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3867990

>been avoiding watching spideyverse cuz i know that watching it will make me wank to gwen for several weeks till i get tired

>> No.3867994

>>3867831
Why is there only one country on this planet with a brain?

>> No.3868003

>>3867831
>1 person says "can we not" in the whole twitter thread of that picture
>this person has to make a tweet about it
>/ic/ glorifies this person
talk about an overreaction, how many snowflakes do we have here?

>> No.3868006

>>3868003
>he hasn't seen the threads that cap out within a day despite how slow /ic/ is

>> No.3868008

>>3868003
https://twitter.com/fuyafuyu/status/1105862710300823552
The guy seems to have a hate boner for western culture

>> No.3868011

>>3868008
The dude isn't even Japanese, he's a fucking weeb. what is the point of this thread?

>> No.3868023

>>3867849
She's just squatting. I think it's weird that you see "sexualization" every time you look at a child.

>> No.3868033

>>3868008
>>3868011
>writes his bio in Japanese
>"I'm sorry for my bad Japanese"
braindead

>> No.3868035

I don't think Fuya is a jap, but yeah they can't stand westerners like this and never did like them.

>> No.3868040

She's like 19 in the comics. And the twitter account in OP is like all of you, a westerner who think he's not like the "others".

>> No.3868048

>>3868040
Artists are very much not like the others.

>> No.3868049

>>3867849
spotted the pedo

>> No.3868050

>>3868048
Yeah, they are much worse

>> No.3868059
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3868059

>>3867990
Wrong

>> No.3868061

>>3868059
>sample

>> No.3868062

>>3868059
no bulge, no thanks

>> No.3868063

>>3868059
Literally who is this? A Japanese school girl Spidergirl?

>> No.3868066
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3868066

>>3868062
off yourself degenerate

>> No.3868068
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3868068

>>3867831
>Japanese person
>Using the term "toxic"
Dubious... But it doesn't matter, both don't have any authority over the other. Americans need to stop dictating the entire planet, but Japs should know better to think their 14 AoC is not world wide. Just ignore the SJWs of the west, and the west just salvage whatever shithole they have left to also do the same. Most Americans in general aren't actually voicing an opinion on sexy loli animu girls, to most it's just "eastern shit".

>> No.3868071

>>3867831
>people sexualizing a kid
>can we please not do this?
>n-no! You filthy western man! You are filthy! You sexualize the loli by drawing attention to others doing it! You are the toxicity in this tweet

We get it, you wanna fap to your creations of lolis

>> No.3868073

>>3867849
Ignore the (you)s, you're right but that's the point. If you're getting triggered the point sex appeal is peaked based on statics, off yourself. It's not your business, it's meant for young people to enjoy, and old creeps to enjoy, but there's no lawfulness against it.

>> No.3868084

god i hate amerimutts and their obsession with spreading their retarded morals

>> No.3868085

>>3867831

"Well, um, actually, maybe you're the real perverts."

>> No.3868110

>>3868063
Bait character for le nerdy anime people.

>> No.3868379

>"English speaking folks"
>"Murata sensei"
>Jap name and picture
>Jap written bio
I honestly didnt think these people existed anymore

>> No.3868384

>>3867841
westerners are the problem

>> No.3868386

>>3867833
>/ic/ would let their young teen daughters recreate this exact pose with these exact clothes irl without problem

This pose is sexual regardless of what the desensitised jap thinks.

I don't personally care since it's a drawing of a fictional character. Draw whatever you want, degenerate or not. But if this was a photo of a real girl irl? Nah senpai. That would be fucked up.

>> No.3868397

>>3868379
Post your work weeb

>> No.3868431

>>3867849

People who deny this are fucking retarded. She's definitely drawn to be high in reproductive value.

>> No.3868440
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3868440

>>3868431
spiderman is a natural slut. how can you draw him not highly sexualized?

>> No.3868453

>>3867833
these fucking twitter thots sucked dick when they were 16 why the fuck are they complaining about a drawn pose

>> No.3868461

>>3868453
because feminists/modern women are actually extremely retrograde

>> No.3868462

>>3868440

First off, that's not even nearly the same pose, but even if it were the same pose it would mean different things depending on the gender.

>> No.3868467

>>3868453
virtue-signalling for e-points
I really hate non-anonymous social media.

>> No.3868469

>>3868462
so are you saying this image isn't sexualized?

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3868476

>>3868461
yep. just give them a platform where they can judge others or exerce some form of "power" and you'll have...

>> No.3868486

>>3868469

Not in the same way, no. Obviously both male and female protagonists tend to be drawn to be attractive in comics, but the spider gwen drawing is basically a pin up pose.

>> No.3868498

>>3868486
and the spider man drawing is basically a male erotic calendar. what's your point?

>> No.3868507

>>3867831
That's probably a subhuman SEA living in US/Canada who wishes he was Japanese really badly. You wh*Toids can't tell the difference yet you think Japanese will accept you if you hate the west enough.
>>3868453
Wrong, it's always disgusting fat femcels who complain about any attractive anime character, the Stacys/thots don't give a fuck.

>> No.3868510

>>3,868453
yeah sucking dick of people their age, and not 30 year old weebs like this image is made for you actual virgin
>>3868461
and yet you still cant get laid so you fap to underage cartoons

>> No.3868513

>>3868486
>>3868498
Wanna know the basic difference? Men have been reading/watching sexy males in sexy clothes doing sexy poses for decades, and they didn't give a shit. Modern women hate their own bodies so much they can't stand seeing sexy females in sexy clothes doing sexy poses. Their immature minds tend to see those females as sexual menaces. It's all about insecurity.

>> No.3868516

>>3868510
>you disagree with me, so you're literally a pedophile
oh, sweaty

>> No.3868518

>>3868498

The difference is intent. Most people aren't gay or yaoi fans and prefer heterosexual depictions of characters. This isn't really rocket science if you try to stop using tumblr logic and think like a regular person.

>> No.3868530

>>3868518
>The problem is the artist intended for them to be gay
What the fuck did I just read?

>> No.3868537

>>3868518
>Who drew gwen intended to depict her as sexy
>Who drew spiderman intended to depict him as sexy
you're right, it isn't rocket science

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>>3868507
>>3867831
I was right, it's actually a SEAsian and not a nip. Why do you SEA faggots want to be East Asian so badly?

>> No.3868552

>>3868548
What the fuck is a sea asian?

>> No.3868556

>>3868548
Post your anime

>> No.3868557

>>3868552
South East Asian

>> No.3868561
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3868561

>yet another pedoshit thread
Please God make it stop.

>> No.3868564

seething old hags

>> No.3868568
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3868568

>>3868561
you have the power to make it stop. Just end it

>> No.3868585

>>3868548
they're technically east asians, you know. Just in the south. also dont pretend that your country also doesn't have its share of weeaboos

>> No.3868592

>>3868585
Mexicans are technically Americans you know. Just in the south.

>> No.3868637

>>3868469
Anyone saying no is retarded. Imo I instantly think of thebootydoc just looking at that pose. It's nice fanservice for woman/gays, but there's a big problem here if you're trying to say it's only ok for men to do it.

If it's a adult woman, anyone getting triggered about it is an insensitive thot. If it's, say, Peni Parker, yeah you're a pedo. But it's fiction, so as long as you stay with fiction, I don't care about your pedo ass. I care when you can't keep it in fiction if you catch my drift.

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3868686

>>3868637
>That's very problematic. Y-you're literally a pedo, he's a pedo, even the original author is a pedo. Everyone is a pedo but me. don't go raping kids in the streets
Here we go. The creature lost it's mind

>> No.3868702

>>3868686
You're literally getting off to the idea of an underage minor in a sexual situation. That is by definition pedophilia. As long as you don't act out your fantasies irl, you won't get sent to the gulag.

>> No.3868708

>>3868702
yeah, yeah, of course i am, and you're not projecting at all

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>>3868708
Hi. >>3868702 isn't me. Thank you for being yet another reason people hate pedos. I don't care, he/she likely doesn't care, no one cares that you are a pedophile. The same people that are SJW, are SJW for anything "problematic". Sane people realise it's just a cartoon. As long as you don't act irl, I don't care. But you ARE a fucking pedo for liking fucking porn of kids, toon or fucking not. Stop getting offended by the word like I'm calling you a nigger or something.

Here, remember the thebootydoc comparison? Is this hot? Sexy, even? As long as you keep it to fiction like this, I don't care. Just don't act irl. Accept what you are though.

>> No.3868744

>>3868736
yep. you're totally not >>3868702, and you're totally still not projecting.

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3868749

>>3868744
*It Ain't Me starts playing*

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>>3868749
Mmhm

>> No.3868804

>3868760
Wow, you really are that emotionally unstable, huh?

>> No.3868812

(draws a suggestive picture of a child) lol it's actually you guys who are the dirty ones

>> No.3868827

>>3868804
nigga you retarded

>> No.3868830

>3868827

>> No.3868934
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3868934

>>3867833
Nothing wrong with this, both americburgers and eurokikes are smoothbrained to the core. Even if you invoke eye of the beholder that someone view it as sexy, what fucking of it? Can you not properly distinguish the consequences in fantasy as opposed to reality? Hint: It's fictional. We all know these retards are incapable of taking in logic and just regurgitate what they get fed in their bubble. Prudish cunts.

>> No.3868943

>>3867833
Someone called her a semen demon so I don't think it was aimed at the pic itself.

>> No.3868947

>>3868736

Being attracted to teenage girls is not pedophilia though

>> No.3868949

>>3868943
>Implying that isn't true
Like normally I think lolis are degenerate
But goddammit that character design is amazing
I'm scared /ic/ ;-;

>> No.3868950

>>3868947
>Hurr Durr itz hebaphilia-
*Bang*
You deserve to get beaten to a inch of your life if you're over 22 and trying to fuck anyone under 17

>> No.3868951

I don't even get why some people are trying to deny that it's sexy. So what if it is? And once again, why are people still trying to present a moral argument for a drawing?

>> No.3868952

>>3868947
It's Hebephilia I'm aware, but, that's the direction the term "pedophila" is from, because Americans are retarded. Pedo is attracted to prepubescent humans, but at this point, it means least that 18 years old on average by the sjws.

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3868953

>>3867833
>tfw learning that Yusuke Murata was supposed to do a Back to the Future manga, but it was cancelled
Goddamn

>> No.3868956

>>3868952
*less than 18 yrs
I derped but whatever.

>> No.3868969
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3868969

This is a picture of a 14 year old girl. Pretending that you'd have to be a pedophile to find her sexually attractive is beyond ridiculous. Her body flashes like a giant neon sign "ready to breed".

>> No.3868976

>>3868592
Well, the continent is called AMERICA, so they most definitely are American, you fucking idiot.

>> No.3868990

>>3868969
literally fuck off this board with your pedo acceptance shit you actual degenerate. i don’t care how attractive or mature a girl looks, if she says ‘i’m 14’ and you’re still attracted you’re a fucking pedo

>> No.3869005

>>3868950
> fucking teenagers
> finding teenagers attractive

You know there's a difference between the two, right?

>> No.3869009

>>3868990
ok what if shes 50 years old but looks 13, what then?

>> No.3869021

>>3868561
>14 yo is pedo now
The modern brainwashing is working

>> No.3869027

>>3868990
Youre literally gay or an incel.

>> No.3869046

>>3867831
>>3867833
>hating on Murata
Almost as disgusting as that fag in OP's pic related that used the T-word
Both should off themselves

>> No.3869049

>>3868969
...With other 14 year old males.
If you're an adult, you're a pedo, sorry. Maturity /= decency. God bless her though, purely gifted.

>> No.3869050

>>3869009
If she's mentally 13 you're still a pedo too.

>> No.3869061

>>3869049
A picture does not convey maturity.
I'm sorry but there's litteraly no way to tell her age with that picture alone. I'm having a hard time believing she could be 14, to me she's somewhere from 16 to 22.

Maybe it would be obvious if I were to talk to her, but I can't talk to a picture.
(well, I can, but it won't answer)

And to be honest, if you're basing it on maturity, then SpiderGwen is probably more mature than Peter B. in that movie...

>> No.3869062

>>3867849
Age of consent is 14 in some countries

>>3868071
Listen bud, once you're out of puberty you're not a child. This is when you are at your peak fertility and when nature intended you to start pumping out kids.

>> No.3869075

>>3869061
Ok, so you expect to fuck that thing and not go to jail after, right? Fucking off yourself mental nutcase
You people are hopeless. I don't even understand why I even try to give ya'll the benefit of the doubt like -8 or something. But nope, ya'll have no understandance of how life works.

>> No.3869077

>>3868548
>>3868507
You know it's usually another seasian who get irritated at other seasians. We know you're one of them there's no point denying it.

>> No.3869078

>>3869075
If it was EXACTLY the same pic and we tell you she's 18, would you consider it fine?

>> No.3869086

>>3869078
NO? FFS she has real life social ID proving her real life age you fucking psycho. Am I just being baited here? You can't seriously be this retarded.

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>>3867831
Imo, the japs dont care unless it directly affects majority of the jap artists community (ie. The twitter loli ban). But in this case I doubt Murata even read the english reply and probably doesn't care. To some degree, the koreans are pretty uppity when westerners try to criticize their work.

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>>3869092

>> No.3869111

>>3869075
>Ok, so you expect to fuck that thing and not go to jail after, right?
I would, in a more natural and healthy world.
Age of consent is 15 in the more stable countries on europe, theres only complications if youre the girls teacher or have some kind of status of power and responsibility.

>> No.3869121

>>3869086
Stop deflecting.
I'm asking, with ONLY THAT PIC, no other piece of evidence.
If you can't understand that simple question, just admit it

>> No.3869126

>>3869075
jk dear she's actually 18 uwu. Happy now?

>> No.3869127

>>3869086
>deflecting
It's hypothetical, anon.

>> No.3869131

>>3868969
LITERAL PEDOPHILE DETECTED

>> No.3869146

>tfw looked at a girl that was 10 minutes away from being 18 years old
>tfw an 30 year old fat washed out jealous feminist saw that
>im now in jail

>> No.3869237

>>3869146
serves you right dipshit

>> No.3869271

>old landwhales feel threatened by a drawing and start calling everyone pedophiles
Modern women are really pathetic.

>> No.3869310

>>3867833
I watched this because of this troll thread. Not bad. It's actually a nice superhero film, but I hated the jap bait girl.

>> No.3869314

>>3869310
that's how boomers see anime girls

>> No.3869345

Lel. Roasties on suicide watch

>> No.3869383

>>3869310
That movie is a love letter to everything cape comics should be. It's just amazing in pretty much every aspect a'd you can just see the passion poured in it.

My only complaint is that the secondary trio of spiderpeople feels a bit useless, they should have expanded a bit more on noir/peni/ham

>> No.3869416

What if a 14 year old boy looks at a pictures of a sexualized 14 year old girl or openly admits to wanting to fug a 14 year old girl
Is he a pedophile

>> No.3869440

>>3869416
Probably okay but then you start thinking about how many days or even hours he is older than the girl, it gets tricky.

>> No.3869442

>>3868063
Worse character in the spider verse movie

>> No.3869503
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3869503

>>3868969
Then there's the opposite where they look young but they are over the age of 18

>> No.3869506

>>3869503
>Then there's the opposite where they are photoshopped to look young but they are over the age of 18

fixed that for you

>> No.3869514

>>3869506
Still there was that chick that couldn't do porn while being over 18 because she looked too young. that's not to say the pic I posted wasnt photo shopped but there are people out that are over the aoc while looking like they are beneath it.

>> No.3869525

>>3869514
>tfw I enjoy shotaloli because I'm a shortstack and self inserts as the small character
I guess I'm (((child coded)))

>> No.3869528

>>3869146
Some anon on this board said something like this happened in britbongland or something. Man minding his business reading the newspaper, and underaged brat and her thot mom called the cops on him claiming he masterbated when him and the girl was sitting on a park bench. While on camera, proving he was just reading his newspaper.

>> No.3869533

>>3869416
Why are you making this post? Are you 14 years old?
This is an 18+ site, fuck off.

>> No.3869539

>>3869533
not that anon but there are actual people (usually the most retarded side of sjw) who actually think if you turn 18 and your bf/gf/friends is still below 18 you're obviously a pedo

>> No.3869548
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3869548

ITS PEDO BECAUSE I SAY SO, AND EVERYONE'S A PEDO BUT MEEE. OH, ITS AN ABSTRACT IMAGE THAT WILL NEVER MATERIALIZE AND DOESN'T EVEN EXIST? GRAPHITE ON PAPER? YOU'RE STILL A PEDO BECAUSE I SAY SO. STILL TRYING TO REFUTE MY BACKWARDS LOGIC AND ABILITY TO CALL EVERYONE A PEDO? YOU MUST BE THE PESÓ THEN. IN ANY CASE, YOU'RE THE PEDO, AND I'M NOT. SO I WILL ALWAYS WIN HAHAHAHA.

>> No.3869549

>>3869416
no, but owning explicitly sexual content such as pics/vids of said girl is illegal

>> No.3869551

>>3869549
true.
the girl could even be guilty of producing child porn if she takes some naked selfies

>> No.3869554

>>3869548
When everyone's a pedo;
noone really is.

>> No.3869556

>>3869548
But you said pesó so checkmate, incels

>> No.3869562

>>3869548
did he lose it
i cant blame him when the pedo-brigade manages to be so fucking stupid

i hope we can start shooting you fucks some day in self defense

>> No.3869565

>>3869562
come and get me, obese retard.

>> No.3869570

>>3869565
learn to read, retard
not that you will, your ilk have already established a disconnect from reason and comprehension

>> No.3869589

>>3869570
>i hope we can start shooting you fucks some day in self defense
Yeah, you were trying to sound threatening, but you're too much of an obese retard to do it, so you ended up sounding even more retarded.

>> No.3869595

>>3869589
okay freud

>> No.3869806

>>3868990
cringe and gay

>> No.3869957

Its fucking infuriating that being a faggot is fine in the current climate but it's not okay to have sex with my niece if she consents

>> No.3870028

>>3869957
Um

>> No.3870041

>>3869957
Your fault being American.
Being a faggot is also hated everywhere else in the world, like being a pedo.

>> No.3870103

>>3868548
SEAsian? What the fuck is that?

>> No.3870158

>>3870103

South East Asian

>> No.3870167

>>3868969
Why would you photoshop a little girl anon.

>> No.3870313

>>3869562
that's the joke, retard

>> No.3870338

>>3867833
Its funny because its just one person being a dumbass and crying about it

>> No.3870345

why is this board filled with pedos

>> No.3870361

>>3870345
Its a D R A W I N G

>> No.3870434

>>3870345
Stunted emotional growth and an echochamber of other outcasts telling them that "it's a drawing" is a valid excuse as if attraction to drawings of minors can't lead into or stem from attraction to actual minors

>> No.3870452

>>3870434
Coming from the pseudo- intellectual.

>> No.3870455

>>3870434
And games cause violence. Give evidence, faggots.

>> No.3870484

>>3868386
This. It can be sexual depending on how you look at it. Can't draw a girl in that pose in a tight suit without it looking so. Murata knows what he's doing.
It is a moral gray area though. People, especially Americans, have a hard time dealing with gray areas particularly with sex. So they want to sterilize everything and pretend teenagers don't have genitals and are not sexual in any way. Just look at what Disney does and why characters in their movies seem like sexless robots.

>> No.3870568

Man this is depressing me.

>> No.3870990

>>3870452
It's easier to dismiss the speaker than to internalize his words. I'm fine with you thinking I'm a pseud if you at least consider what I said
>>3870455
This is closer to saying that video games will desensitize you to violence, which I believe is true under certain circumstances. Is it really that hard to believe that being attracted to characters drawn to look like minors would leak into your actual perception of minors' bodies being attractive? I'm not stupid - I won't even imply that being attracted to minors means you'll actually go out and abuse them, but I firmly believe being attracted to lolis/shotas reflects an attraction to a child's body and regular consumption of such media will exacerbate the issue

>> No.3871000

>>3870990
>exacerbate the issue
What issue?

>> No.3871001

>>3871000
Thought crimes

>> No.3871006

>>3870990

This may come as a shock to you but regular heterosexual men already find teenage girls sexually attractive. No need to be "desentized". It's biology. Doesn't mean they have to act on the attraction. But it's there, and it's perfectly normal.

>> No.3871009

>>3868969
Her face looks 30. She will not age well at all.

>> No.3871014
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3871014

There is nothing wrong with enjoying drawings of characters of any age regardless of reasons for enjoyment, sexual or otherwise. Liking a fictional character does not make you a pedophile. Stop with the thought crime.
>>3870568
Do not despair, friend. They may try to shame and silence us through social media or group attacks but they will never take away our ability to create. Something they lack and hate us for being able to do.

>> No.3871034

>>3871000
I'd describe attraction to children as being an issue, personally. The fairly common cocktail of mental illness and attraction toward children has led to some pretty heinous shit that really has no place in modern society
>>3871006
I guess using minor isn't getting my thoughts across accurately. As teens get older there is definitely a blurring of the line, but I specifically mean underdeveloped bodies. Prepubescent bodies and the bodies of those who "look 15." I wouldn't call someone being attracted to >>3868969 a pedo if it was purely physical attraction as, like they mention, her body looks adult. In that case, issue would arise with someone being attracted to the ability to manipulate her easier due to her age - but purely physical attraction to an adult body shouldn't constitute pedophilia. Something like >>3869548 is where I would take issue. It's clearly supposed to depict the body of someone quite young. I'm too /beg/ to really pinpoint why she looks so juvenile to me, but what sticks out the most is the distinctive childlike clothing mixed with the small stature and pudginess. It's not for me to decide that she's not mentally 54 years old, but to depict and be attracted to someone who deliberately looks so young is where I see issue. And if anyone replies, please don't just mention that some adult women can look underage and leave it as if that's your all-powerful trump card. Let's have a conversation

>> No.3871037

>>3871034
Fuck you

>> No.3871040

>>3871037
Ah well. I know I'm not changing any minds today but a discussion would be nice

>> No.3871043

>>3871014
>masturbating to feet all day doesn't mean you have a foot fetish
literally you

>> No.3871046

>>3871040
What goes on in your head, on paper, or pixels on a computer screen doesn't matter. People who go do stuff to kids already had wanted to do that stuff they didn't just get corrupted somehow. They do it because they get off on feeling powerful. That's why so many leaders and people in positions of power get caught doing that shit. People can restrain themselves. Unless they're brain dead retarded or suffering from dementia, there is no excuse.

>> No.3871049
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3871049

>>3871043
I look at a young girl irl and don't give her a second glance. She's just some stupid kid. I'm sure tons of "UGGGGHHH FEEEET" footfags feel nothing or even get disgusted by feet irl. 2D and 3D are worlds apart.
I accept your concession

>> No.3871075

>>3871046
I'm not convinced that many with mental illness wouldn't find some other outlet than sexually abusing children if they were so affected that they had to act on their issues. That's why I said it's a dangerous mixture, it could present the harming of children as an attractive option.
>>3871049
Footfags are rabid and you know this. Is avatarfagging with Gohan part of some meme?

>> No.3871122
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3871122

>>3867859
>sexualized
>What's a teen girl doing in a skin tight suit?

Next you'll tell me that little girls who do gymnastics are sexualized for wearing leotards and doing leg stretches.

If you think this is sexual, then it is you who is the degenerate.

>> No.3871129

>>3867833
Honestly, if you're attracted to a character, you'd think any normal pose was sexual. She could stand up straight or sit on a chair or lay down on the ground and someone would find it lewd just because they find the character attractive

>> No.3871136
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3871136

>>3871122
>Next you'll tell me that little girls who do gymnastics are sexualized for wearing leotards
No, retard. The difference is in what you quoted.

>> No.3871154

>>3871136
Even if it was a teen girl wearing a leotard, if you find it sexual, then you are a degenerate.

A woman may begin to ovulate around age 13-14, but the healthiest and most fertile time to have a baby is between ages 20-28, because that is when the womans body fully develops.

A woman still has the brain of a child when they are 14. Even if she can have children at that age, it doesn't mean she has the mental maturity to take care of that child.

>> No.3871172

>>3871034
I agree that adult sexual attraction towards children and sexual depictions of children are both unsavory and also that the latter might encourage lust for children in individuals who might otherwise never have thought about it. However, there is no clear link between pornography and sexual abuse in general (on the contrary, there are suggestions that it might work as an outlet for individuals who might otherwise hurt people). Also, society is full of unsavory ideas, including the common example that is violence in media.

Free expression is noble and it is no problem for a population that can handle the responsibility. The West is going in the wrong direction in this regard. I think it would be much better to start sterilizing rapists and violent people who actually do bad things, but I guess that makes me a nazi. Pedo nazi.

>>3871154
>Even if it was a teen girl wearing a leotard, if you find it sexual, then you are a degenerate.
No, you're either just a bitter dried up old hag or a modern "male".

>A woman may begin to ovulate around age 13-14, but the healthiest and most fertile time to have a baby is between ages 20-28, because that is when the womans body fully develops.
>A woman still has the brain of a child when they are 14. Even if she can have children at that age, it doesn't mean she has the mental maturity to take care of that child.
Doesn't matter if these are true or not. Male brains still find teenage girls' bodies sexual because they're starting to have breasts and hips, no matter what modern society says. Millions of years of evolution can't be changed that easily, that's why people like you are having such a hard time coping with these phenomena.

>> No.3871179
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3871179

>>3871014
Fuck off Gohanposter. You spics are giving him a bad name.

>> No.3871248

>>3871014
>>3871049
Based Gohan poster

>> No.3871301
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3871301

>>3869021
>oh no society is protecting exploitable girls, it's brainwashing!
/thread

>> No.3871326

>>3871301
protecting real girls by fighting drawings.
It's like fighting tax fraud by going after people who cheat at monopoly

>> No.3871481

>>3871326
most of the replies here are talking about actual people m8

>> No.3871485

>>3871481
Don't quote somebody quoting a Murata discussion then

>> No.3871499
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3871499

>>3867831
>S-STOP SEXUALIZING SOME LINES ON A WHITE BACKGROUND P-P-PLEASEE!!
>SHE'S 14 S-STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP

>> No.3871723

>>3867833
>Implying those people demonizing this drawing don't have even worse fetishes
A dirty mind can only see dirty things.

>> No.3871796

>>3871481
>keeps dodging his valid points
you're useless

>> No.3871799

>>3868510
>y-you made a good point so you must be a v-virgin

pretty obvious your hole is your only valuable trait and even that's not so great

>> No.3871826

>>3871796
The fuck are you talking about?
"Hurr society is brainwashing us" is not a valid point the monopoly one is because I dont give a crap about 2d and I only replied twice

>> No.3871906
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3871906

>>3868462
you're right, its not the same pose as OP's picture. Its the same pose Milo Manara drew another female spider character in that cause the exact same moral panic. Spider poses tend to involve a lot of squatting and spread thighs, its just what he does and its iconic. To be completely fair, any other context? yeah it could totally be read as a sexual pose, but in this case the fact that its a spider character makes it 100% okay

>> No.3872080

>>3867831

"it's you guys who have some dirty minds"
>thread
>the west

pretty much sums it all it up for any pseudo-lewd sjw outcry that ever happened whatsoever

>> No.3872082

>>3869503
where can one find such nice pose ref pics like this?

>> No.3872117

>>3867833
>>3867831
If drawings can be wives then drawings can be kids

>> No.3872581

I fap to loli nearly every day, I don't make a big deal out of it but it's funny watching people on the internet psychoanalyse me for whacking to cartoons.

>> No.3872599

>>3871906
Milo is a popular pin-up/cheesecake artist, to claim that said image isn't made with sexual titillation in mind is just delusional thinking.
Not to say I necessarily disagree, but that's a really retarded example to use for your point here.

>> No.3872928

>>3871906
Someone post that image showing how that pose is not even possible for a human.

>> No.3873105

>>3867841
Women starved for attention and jealous of drawings.

>> No.3873110

>>3867849
Everything is. You're in a website where people unironically demand pics of gore and feces to masturbate.
Someone will fap to your drawing no matter how disgusting you make it.

>> No.3873113

>>3868518
The difference is men don't feel threatened and completely devalued by competition. Specially not fictional competition.

>> No.3873115

>>3868950
16 is legal in most of the USA and EU.
Some places, like Japan, it goes even down to 14.

18 is not a magic number where kids immediately become mature, it's just when most countries think we're ripe to go to war.

>> No.3873120

>>3869514
Lupe Fuentes had to testify about being over the age of 18 in a mainstream porn scene she filmed while she was like 26 or something to keep a guy from going to jail for cheese pizza.

It's almost like looks are not a reliable metric of age.

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>> No.3873624

>>3873127
seeing the 14 year old retards on twitter keep reposting this over and over makes me wonder if jack thompsons legacy was reincarnated through LGBT brats

>> No.3873632 [DELETED] 

>>3871014
>>3871049
based and mightpilled
>>3871034
unbased and 1984pilled

>> No.3873633

>>3873127
I dont know hot to tell you that censorship has and will always affect ppl's perceptions of reality and a restriction is never just a restriction because, like anything else that is suppressed, has physiological impact on society

>> No.3873634

>>3871014
>>3871049
based and mightpilled
>>3871034
>>3873127
unbased and 1984pilled

>> No.3873852

>>3872928
As are 90% of Spidey's poses. That's kinda his shtick.

>> No.3873876

>>3873127
I dont know how to tell you

Its just a drawing.

People's choice to get influenced by that is -- a choice. Any act you take due to any affection you harbor due to previous experience is - a choice.

You cannot physically cause someone in good mental health to do something highly morally repugnable and criminal just cause he looked at a drawing. This is the action of the mentally ill, and theirs is a problem that is rooted not in the material they were exposed to, but in the mental illness itself, as it does not manifest in 99% of the other people who view said material.

If we can all sit down and watch a Slasher or violent action film, then step out of the theatre and start brutalizing, shooting and torturing each other, surely we can control sexual urges or new kinks we develop and know right from wrong.

Surely, we are adults, are we not?

>> No.3873877

>>3873876
*then step out of the theatre and NOT start

>> No.3877193

>>3872928
IT FUCKING IS HOLY SHIT

STOP THIS STUPID MEME, THEY FORCED THE MODEL TO CLIP INTO ITSELF, ACTUAL PEOPLE HAVE BEEN IN THAT FUCKING POSE AND PEOPLE HAVE PUT MODELS IN THAT POSE.

>> No.3877303

>>3877193
There is a pic of a cute girl who did the pose. But of course googling it only gives me tumblrina whiners.

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3877309

>>3867831
>>3867833
I don't understand how this thread has 200+ posts. Murata really isn't getting any backlash for the drawing. There's only 2 posts that are like that. You can check for yourself. This is such a non-issue.

https://twitter.com/NEBU_KURO/status/1110068667776024576

>> No.3877351

>>3877309
right wingers have a persecution complex.

>> No.3877367

>>3872928

They aren't human, brainlet.

>> No.3877630

>>3877351
Funny how things have come around

>> No.3877639

>>3877351
>>3877630
guess its those which are the minority who display persecution complex

>> No.3877897

>>3869094
I don't know what any of this says, but it looks based and redpilled.

>> No.3877955

>>3877639
modern right wing propaganda is based on making the people that support them feel like theyre some persecuted minority battling an agenda, while being in control of the actual important stuff like laws and regulations and goverment.

>> No.3879075

>>3877955
This. Down with the Nazi New World Order!

>> No.3879116

>>3868969
Moar??

>> No.3879119

>>3867841
Ugh.. can we just not?

>> No.3879185

>>3877955
you say "right wing" as if the left doesnt do that but x10000

>> No.3879370

>>3877309
Loli threads are the biggest waste of time on /ic/ and anons keep getting roped into it.

>> No.3879860

>>3868431
>high in reproductive value.
Could you have worded this any weirder?

>> No.3879923

>>3877955
>propaganda is based on making the people that support them feel like theyre some persecuted minority battling an agenda
fixd

>> No.3880015

>>3869086
how does your dick know what her ID card says
you dumb inbred motherfucker
your dick sees tits and it goes up, if you can't tell whether she's 14 or 22 by the photo then your dick definitely can't

do you cross check every pornstar's government ID when you watch porn to give your dick permission to rise

>> No.3880360

>>3880015
See you in jail, pedophile. You're implying people that likes flat chested, non developed bodies are ok by your shit logic. Underaged is underaged, no matter how early they mature.