/vent/ thread

[Anonymous No.3856163]

Confess your art sins here or vent your worries away

[Anonymous No.3856165]

i dont draw daily and i have no passion or creativity

i feel like all my childhood imagination has evaporated away

[Anonymous No.3856174]

>>3856163
Does it seem like for anyone else, the art that they spent the equivalent of "sticking their drawing pen up their ass and scribbling something out with it" always gets more like/RTs than the art they actually put a lot of effort into?

My most liked/RT art seems to be my simple sketches. I wonder if it's because they look better in thumbnails?

[Anonymous No.3856239]

I feel worthless and i feel like i dont try hard enough but i pretend to tell myself ill be a great artist one day, but i know its all a lie to keep myself from offing myself.

[Anonymous No.3856309]

I was getting slowly better but then usuddenly had a huge breakdown and gave up drawing 2 days ago. And I don't feel like drawing at all. Maybe I'm just meant to be a normie and play vidiya and read mango and shit?
How do I know? I'm suck in the middle not knowing which way to fully embrace (I don't want to just draw for fun, I feel like it's all or nothing)

[Anonymous No.3856321]

>>3856309
take a break, remember why you picked up drawing in the first place, come back. If you think your previous reason doesn't work anymore, then either you're depressed or just done with drawing.

[Anonymous No.3856327]

>>3856321
Depression is certainly there, its been for a while.
I don't know why I pick drawing. I mean nothing concret, no specific project. It's just the one thing I did since I was a kid (mindlessly and I never even got decent even by normie standard, but still).
Maybe cause I love anime and comics and they were a huge part of my life? And I wanted to do the sale stuff?
These days I feel like I can't differentiate my love for art and actually doing art.
Maybe it's just the first one and I should stay a consumer. I just can't admit it cause if I'm not an "artist", then I'm nobody. Everyone has a thing in their life and if I don't produce something, I'm just leeching off life. Idk. I'm so fucking lost and depressed I feel physically sick.

[Anonymous No.3856334]

>>3856327
If you never liked doing art, maybe you should stop doing it.
> I just can't admit it cause if I'm not an "artist", then I'm nobody. Everyone has a thing in their life and if I don't produce something, I'm just leeching off life. Idk. I'm so fucking lost and depressed I feel physically sick.
I don't know what "leeching off life" even means, just do whatever you want. You could find something you like and pursue it.

[Anonymous No.3856338]

>>3856334
I mean not creating anything. Not heping people, nothing of value.
Just consuming other's content.

>If you never liked doing art, maybe you should stop doing it.
I actually love doing it. Loved? I don't know if I still do. I don't know if depression is just too strong for me to think clearly. Just fucking shoot me so I stop bothering people with this, been doing this on and off for years.

[Anonymous No.3856349]

>>3856338
>I mean not creating anything. Not heping people, nothing of value.
>Just consuming other's content.
Do you think you'd like to create just for the sake of creating, even if you don't enjoy it?(if that's what you're trying to say) Sounds really taxing and depressing. You could try to explore though, you might come to like something.
>I actually love doing it. Loved? I don't know if I still do.
Yeah, you should just take a few days' break, it might come back- or not. Optimistically, you might just randomly find some drive while on the break, too.

[Anonymous No.3856356]

opened myself up to some nsfw commissions because I needed the money - said I'd do anything that wasn't illegal or scat

when I got my first degenerate commission, it was fairly harmless as far as degen fetishes go. Just some gay hambeast nude, easy enough. Client really liked my work, ended up recommending me to all his degenerate friends.

Soon enough, all I ever get commissioned for is gay fat fetish content. I draw it so much I'm starting to like it.

Is it too late to repent? Are all nsfw artist doomed?

[Anonymous No.3856358]

I had a falling out with a few artist "friends" because they were social-media whores who only wanted to be creative if there was enough cameras around. I shared everything I had, gave away art supplies when they were making shit tonnes of money and I was near-broke, did everything to keep the team going, except they wouldn't participate in actually learning or work on group projects (life drawing, paint nights, ect). Got so sick of hearing what a great idea it all was and how much they wanted to do it, but whenever I got things planned, nobody would show up and they'd be at home too stoned. They'd hoard their own ideas/suppliers/techniques and wait for me to execute mine before trying to one-up me constantly by spending more on materials or hiring other artists. They're all in it for the fame, while I feel like I just want to be a master artist. I've been studying daily, painting and drawing non-stop and made tons of progress since I told them to go fuck themselves after some petty bullshit went down. If they want to be jealous bitter cunts because of my own successes when I've done nothing but help them out, then they better hold onto their seat-belts because they may have more social-media followers at the moment because they're literally e-whores but my work speaks for itself. I have a growing list of private-collectors, working on exhibitions with some galleries and I know I can only grow from here.
It just feels a bit lonely not having anyone around with the same goals and having people just use me for their own promotion/profit, but success is the best revenge and I know I'm gonna make it. Fuck those guys TT___TT

[Anonymous No.3856359]

>>3856349
>Optimistically, you might just randomly find some drive while on the break, too.
I actually could even if it doesn't seem like it right now. I suppose I'm just beating myself down for not drawing for a few days when I'm still so bad.
Well. I'll try to relax and see what comes to mind when I don't draw.
Thanks for listening to me dude.

[Anonymous No.3856360]

>>3856356
If you like it then you learned to like something new, good for you. As long as you don't feel the need to go rape lolis or some shit have all the fetishes you want.

[Anonymous No.3856361]

>as a stupid kid I wanted to make comic books
>late 20s now, still want to and finally have an idea.
>get a cozy job sitting in a booth serving coffee.
>meaning I have 6-8 nearly uninterrupted hours 4 or 5 days out of the week to just sit and grind
>place I work at is also a bookstore and they print and publish in house.
>a Fucking blessing. I hammer out undies and make a real progress to my work.
>bad news: the place is run like a Fucking high school. If person A doesn't like person B they get all of their friends to vote them out and get them fired.
>I sit in the booth all day, everyone knows I'm quick to help and do work if needed. (I'm just shit with people so they didn't normally have me in the. Main store.)
>got a legit cold and worked the main store, thus getting everyone sick.
>ask for following shift off in advance to get better.
>its granted.
>the ASM who just quit her job hears I called out (not her department not her problem) and she goes to the CFO who doesn't know me by name and requests I be laid off.
>my boss gave me the heads up so I get to resign with dignity.
>mfw I lost my perfect booth and 30% discount on top of that printing/publishing shit
>tfw I have lost all inspo and drive to continue because of it.


I'm so salty about this. It paid absolute crap but that down time was godly for my progress. And now I'm out of a job.

Yeah I can go back and print it whenever, but its been 4 days and I haven't drawn anything significant since.

[Anonymous No.3856368]

I've been on this board and grinding to improve my art for 6 years. I've spent all sorts of money on supplies, books, and tablets. I have even gotten live lessons and critique from Steve Huston. A year ago someone offered me a job at a graphic design studio but I've been too much of a bitch to send my portfolio as it's mostly anime trash and random figure drawings. I get numerous offers for commissions and I have never gone through with any of them.

I've done this while juggling college, work, and a social life. The result is my art is still utter garbage. I am nowhere near the level I wanted or aimed to be. Certain fundamentals I still can't even grasp completely.

I am merely a dilettante instead of a true artist, at this point I come to the realization that I may never make it and might have to go down a different path.

[Anonymous No.3856373]

I haven't uploaded anything to social media in months. I'm scared that someone will accuse me of tracing art that a bit too similar - as in general posture and shit.

[Anonymous No.3856384]

>>3856368
Seriously, pyw, I feel like you're not 2 good judge for yourself

[Anonymous No.3856399]

>>3856384
>pyw
>you're not 2 good judge for yourself
what

[Anonymous No.3856406]

>>3856368
Post your work, I’m curious too

[Anonymous No.3856407]

>>3856399
>Purely Yours Without Tote
>Profile Of Your Waste
>Putting Youth To Work Program
community
What type of slang is this

[Anonymous No.3856408]

>>3856361
>the ASM who just quit her job hears I called out (not her department not her problem) and she goes to the CFO who doesn't know me by name and requests I be laid off.
what the fuck

[Anonymous No.3856409]

>>3856406
I'm working on something right now actually, gimme like a few minutes

[Anonymous No.3856416]

>>3856165
o really?, how about just grab a pen a draw the fist thing that pops to mind then??

[Anonymous No.3856420]

>>3856416
I'm not him but if I do this I'll just end up wild bald people posing

[Anonymous No.3856440]

>>3856406
>>3856437

[Anonymous No.3856442]

>>3856358
Fuck those guys. They aren't friends. They're just social media faggots that let you on for the ride.

[Anonymous No.3856471]

>>3856356
kek

[Anonymous No.3856475]

>>3856361
what a bitch

[Anonymous No.3856499]

>>3856358
if thats you brain, fuck you, you deserved it. most likely they got to know you better and decided to keep their distance

[Anonymous No.3856503]

>>3856440
It’s not that bad. The main problem is the stiffness - her torso and pelvis look rigid because there’s no contrapposto, no assymetry. Also her right arm forms a 90 degree angle, you should avoid those because they kill the gesture

Don’t be afraid to relearn the fundamentals, I must have gone through Loomis dozens of times before it clicked. I was re-reading Vilppu’s drawing manual yesterday and thought to myself “everything I needed to know about cylinders is right here, why the hell couldn’t I see it earlier”.

[Anonymous No.3856507]

>>3856163
I just want to draw my husbando but I don’t want to make mistakes and I don’t want to disappoint myself. I just keep drawing other shit that I don’t care about and putting what I want to draw off.

[Anonymous No.3856510]

>>3856163
I am so tired of practicing in general. I'm still failing at simple things like making head-on faces symmetrical or getting the right proportions/distance of shoulders from the head. I still can't draw completely anatomically correct figures and I've done nothing but study human anatomy for almost 4 years now. I'm still so fucking far away from being any good that I'm going to be in my 70s before it happens (IF it happens which it probably won't). I don't even want to live to that point and will have probably killed myself long before that. I think I just hate everything about art now. I don't want to hate art, but I can't help it. In theory it should be really fun, but it just isn't. I have never encountered anything that is as stupidly obtuse and frustrating as learning how to draw. I can't believe there's even such a thing as "art therapy", there is absolutely nothing therapeutic or relaxing about drawing. It has only made my suicidal urges stronger. I want to end it all.

[Anonymous No.3856529]

“tumblr” style is actually really fun to draw.

[Anonymous No.3856537]

>>3856361
What a fucking cunt.
Why is it that women in white collar environments are always consistent psychopaths.

[Anonymous No.3856540]

Practicing to "git gud" as the kids these days say has really killed my interest and motivation for drawing. I don't like grinding out drawings and usually have no idea wtf im doing.

I can never go back to the way I was prior to discovering this place.

Nothing I make is ever good enough(in my eyes). I'm my own worst enemy.

How do I stop being this way?
This toxic mindset has almost made me give up on drawing several times.

[Anonymous No.3856546]

I have no fuckin idea what I'm doing

[Anonymous No.3856551]

Who knew working 40 hours a week would be exhausting.
I work 1 to 9pm shifts so i wake up at 11am so I can stay up until like 3 and still get 8 hours but jesus, I have zero energy after I get off.
Anyone have advice for staying awake while drawing? I can barely sketch without my eyes feeling heavy

[Anonymous No.3856587]

>>3856551
Drugs.
There aren't any other options. Welcome to wageslavery.

[Anonymous No.3856591]

>>3856551
WAKE UP EARLY AND DRAW BEFORE WORK
The idea of recreation after work is a SCAM.
You already have a good schedule for work, so make use of it. Draw before serving the Man.

[Anonymous No.3856604]

>>3856591
This. I'm up early drawing right now, if I tried after work I'd get nothing done.

[Anonymous No.3856633]

I haven't gotten any commissions in months and that makes me want to switch to doing furry porn cause they seem to be doing well.

[Anonymous No.3856641]

>>3856309
you gotta go outside a lot. Those decisions are only properly made in a body that's not weighed down by a sedentary lifestyle it's not designed for

[Anonymous No.3856647]

>>3856633
Just do sfw pokemon commissions.
Its like doing furry except you dont have to draw the fucked up shit to get steady customers.

[Anonymous No.3856650]

I was drawing to impress some girl in a discord group, who I started chatting with. It turned into a major crush because I am devoid of attention. Then I learned just yesterday she is black. Yeah.
At least I can get over her and move on.
I don't really want to bring it up, I think I'm just gonna ghost the entire server.

[Anonymous No.3856652]

I keep dropping drawings I was trying to digitally paint because I get overwhelmed. Wtf I want to paint and remove the lineart but it looks blurry, like a stain of paint. And my attempts at hard edging with a color just look tacky. I keep grinding drawings on paper but I know I'm NGMI as long as I can't render

[Anonymous No.3856655]

>>3856650
It's ok to abandon discord

[Anonymous No.3856664]

>>3856650
lmfao

[Anonymous No.3856667]

>>3856650
Lol

[Anonymous No.3856668]

Does anyone here want to get good but actively avoid drawing at the same time?
Like wasting all day on procrastination and then realizing of those what, 16 hours you're awake in a day, you used only 1 or 2 to make art and learn to get better.
Can I even say I like drawing? I don't know anymore.

[Anonymous No.3856674]

Have you guys ever met people who are just older versions of the kids you knew in the past? I'm sure once you get to """know them""" that may not be 100% true, but I keep having to deal with architypes of people I knew in the past. Their personalities all remind me of people I knew before and I don't like it....specifically in the workplace.

[Anonymous No.3856677]

>>3856668
Check adhd with your doctor

[Anonymous No.3856685]

when I have a full-time job, I barely draw because I have no energy.
when I am jobless, I barely draw because I am lazy.
I lie to myself every night when I go to bed, that surely I will start drawing for real the next morning.
I have only myself to blame for my situation

[Anonymous No.3856704]

>>3856163
I went and criticized the fuck out of a "*name*art" dude who appeared on my twitter feed who literally only do studies of photos with the "hyper realsitic" meme. Aside from that he copies fanarts of other artists without giving credit and called him out on it. But the worst offender is that he fucking sells PRINTS of them and not the original drawings he did.
I feel bad for doing this and be angry at basically nothing since there will always be thousands of people like that one guy.

[Anonymous No.3856757]

>>3856650
Honestly she dodged a bullet because you sound like a sociopath.

Get over yourself you racist idiot.

[Anonymous No.3856768]

I'm still incredibly depressed over my diagnosis.
It makes me feel like a freak unworthy of happiness and comprehension most of the time
I feel so lonely but I just cant talk to people to save my life. And anyways burdening the few online friends I still got with this thing? It makes me feel like an asshole, who the fuck wants to have a depressed and autistic fuck dragging them down with their bullshit?
I wish I was dead so I could stop being a bother.

[Anonymous No.3856778]

>>3856768
I'm a paranoid fuck so I know how you feel.
Don't worry about it, it's not real, nobody that is your friend wants you gone, and neither does the average guy you might try to make friends with

[Anonymous No.3856783]

>>3856309
>2day break
lmao, thats kiddie stuff. some people here go months without drawing

[Anonymous No.3856784]

>>3856757
I'm not into black chicks. The only thing special she ever did was notice me. Because of the reveal I've been dropped back into reality.

[Anonymous No.3856787]

>>3856768
don't worry anon
i recently got a shit tier diagnosis for some personality disorder and thought everyone would abandon ship

no one did, you'll be fine

[Anonymous No.3856792]

>>3856361
you should have put a gun to your cfo's head

[Anonymous No.3856795]

>>3856768
Browsing some vietnamese rice factory for a long time can make you think having a mental illness is an embarrassment. Stop spending so much time in this place. You're going to be ok

[Anonymous No.3856797]

>>3856373
people before us has already drawn every possible posture that has existed under the sun. Your works are bound to have similarities with other people's work even if you're into abstract. What a weird thing to be scared of

[Anonymous No.3856810]

>>3856784
Have fun dying alone then I guess

[Anonymous No.3856846]

I love this board
but I fucking hate this board

[Anonymous No.3856850]

>>3856163
stop opening whiny threads, loser.

[Anonymous No.3856862]

>>3856757
bohoho, ppl are allowed to have sexual preferences

[Anonymous No.3857084]

>>3856587
Too expensive

>>3856591
Aight, I'll give this a shot, thanks

[Anonymous No.3857088]

Did they actually block ic in australia?

[Anonymous No.3857091]

I spent 4 years trying to build up the motivation to make a portfolio for an animation college and now I'm nearly finished the first year and I haven't got any work done for the final submissions. I also didn't do any drawing outside of college all year.

[Anonymous No.3857096]

>>3857088
they should this place is absolute garbage

[Anonymous No.3857097]

There's an art showcase and a gallery coming up at my uni, it's spring break now and I wanted to try making pieces to submit with this extra time (already kinda said I'd submit stuff but I have nothing yet). But none of the concepts I've been coming up with feel good enough. They all feel cheesy, unoriginal, uninspired, uninteresting. I feel like I am giving myself an art block with these unreasonable expectations. I know I eventually have to give in and pick something even if it's not "just right" but I don't want to let myself/others down and that fear is bothering me a lot

[Anonymous No.3857100]

>been following Keys to Drawing for a month and a week
>never find enough time to draw even though I'm a NEET, all I do is procrastinate
>want to draw amazing shit, have a lot of cool ideas but obviously my skill is below what I can get on the paper
>know I need to stick with it
>check out Oddworld art, shit is fantastic and inspiring
>on chapter 3 of Keys, starting to draw faces and such which is really boring and not my thing

I guess I'm sticking with it, but damn if it isn't boring sometimes

[Anonymous No.3857102]

>>3856540
What do you have fun drawing? I find I improve faster when I’m just playing around and enjoying the process more than anything. I think stressing out about “gitting gud” can kill your art gains if that mindset isn’t for you.

[Anonymous No.3857119]

>>3857100
Draw your ideas anyway, don't wait til you're "good enough". At the very least you'll learn from it
Studying helps of course but you're still allowed to have fun drawing too, draw what you like & apply your knowledge between boring studies. Just my 2 cents

[Anonymous No.3857128]

>>3856356
As long as a sinner is still alive, Jesus will accept them if they repent and believe in him.

[Anonymous No.3857132]

>>3857091
apparently this is a photo, yet it looks like a painting. The colors are amazing, the design is amazing. just what the fuck

[Anonymous No.3857168]

Im at the point when killing myself is less painful than draw.

[Anonymous No.3857198]

>>3856674
Yeah, I've noticed this too. There's some Platonic shit going on mate

[Anonymous No.3857210]

I hate having to go to uni and being forced to waste 9hrs a day studying, then being too tired to feel like doing anything. I have to push myself real hard to get anything done.
I've been telling myself for years now that I should improve, get better at everything, pick up new projects, manage my time better, yet I made no real improvement. I don' think I'm depressed, but I feel half-stuck in this apathetic state and seemingly can't force my way out of it. Maybe it's because I failed at everything I did in life so far but I'm never giving my best, I can't give my best at anything, I don't know what's wrong with me.

[Anonymous No.3857328]

>>3856540
Take a short break from drawing and come back to it, something might click

[Anonymous No.3857335]

>>3857091
Sounds like my experience, except I decided to join on a whim and sent in my autistically made stop-motion animations and by wonder, I got in.

Things we're fun in the beginning, but quickly I started slacking off and I couldn't really understand what the teachers wanted from me either since almost every class was about some sort of abstract concept.

So I dropped out in the first year.

[Anonymous No.3857429]

>>3856368
>have even gotten live lessons and critique from Steve Huston

Wtf anon. How one get those? How much you paid?

I dont know your situation fully, but maybe if you follow those comission work, you will not only make some money, but will get real field expirience, and will understand what u need to work on more

[Anonymous No.3857434]

>>3856685
atleast you realize whats up anon, that already good. You can improve from here. I watched feng zhu video called Just Draw, its breddy cool, maybe find a time to watch it, maybe something will click.

>>3856650
based

[Anonymous No.3857439]

>>3856163
I don't practice on a daily basis. I often use 3d models as underlays because I can't draw eyes, hands, or noses. I've tried reading books but don't get past the introductory chapter because I don't match up the artists that made them. I know that's dumb but it starts to worry me how my stuff looks and I just get angry with myself and then do something else lik elisten to music. I'd like to be able to make a game one day but I hate using stock assets so until I figure out how to actually do it I am not progressing at all. I know I should just swallow my pride and do it with stock assets but I fucking hate it and can't stand it.

[Anonymous No.3857458]

>>3856163
>Work on a piece for 3 hours
>Zoom in
>Realize you have to clean up messy lines and do other miscellaneous shit to make it look better

Art is such a masochist trade, I should find me a bitch that's into femdom and see if it feels the same

[Anonymous No.3857469]

>>3857458
>tfw you learned to RERORERORERORERO
my proudest achievement

[Anonymous No.3857524]

>>3857210
I know this feel all too well anon. I'm gonna try to break out of this vicious apathy. I think the answer lies in setting daily goals and accomplishing them.

[Anonymous No.3857594]

i'm upset. and i'm not even skilled enough nor imaginative to channel this into making any decent art. i feel absolutely miserably despite everything having gone well for me recently. this sucks.

[Anonymous No.3857605]

>>3856650
Were there signs? Damn. At least aim better next time.

[Anonymous No.3857609]

>>3856163
I love sleeping and taking naps and do it constantly instead of working on my art and it is THE biggest waste of time physically possible. But it's an uphill battle against myself, I'm just fucking tired all the time.

[Anonymous No.3857667]

>>3857609
Have you tried getting some sun?

[Anonymous No.3857669]

>>3856650
>devoid of attention
I wonder why...

[Anonymous No.3857675]

>>3856650
She dodged a bullet. Fuck you faggot.

[Anonymous No.3857685]

>>3857667
Thank you for your concern, I do actually have Seasonal Affective Disorder and live pretty far north so sunlight is hard to come by this time of year, that could very well be the issue. I'll try and stop just beating myself up about it and instead be proactive and see my doctor.

[Anonymous No.3857688]

i'm so lonely

Most of the time it's ok
I just smoke weed and draw all day.
But sometimes i have like a sudden clarity of mind where i realise I have literally no friends.
Like I have the urge to talk to someone and then i realize oh shit I have nobody for that


Venting about it doesn't even feel that good

[Anonymous No.3857699]

>>3856650
I mean... it could have been worse, she could have been a trap, tranny, or even a dude the whole time...

So be grateful faggot

[Anonymous No.3857701]

>>3857685
You have to realize that random naps, oversleeping, etc, is actually the reason behind your tiredness. I've been there before many time. Get a decent sleep schedule, and don't sleep for more than 8 hours a day. It'll be hard at first, but then your body will adapt and you will feel better and less tired in a few weeks, and it's really important to be consistent during this period.
I would also recommend taking vitamin D3 if you don't get enough sun.

[Anonymous No.3857703]

>>3856862
C'mon, you don't have to play dumb here, anon. We all had our fair share of /Pol/ and /r9k/ already. We all know why that anon dislikes her being black.

[Anonymous No.3857704]

>>3857688
Even now that I got people to talk with, ultimately, they don't care. People can never really get one another. It's weird.
The most therapeutic thing I could get when I was in the same shit as you was to talk to strangers. Get to people in the park, talk in voice chat on the net. Even though you'd never meet them again, you'd be surprised how good it feels, if you have never tried it.
Also cut some of the weed bro it's never good if you do it all day all week.

[Anonymous No.3857730]

i thought that gitin' gud at drawing will get me a qt furry 8/10 gf, and all i got was just FUCKING 11/10 DEPRESSION, PLS HELP ME /IC/

[Anonymous No.3857742]

>>3857703
>having preferences is racist
No one is obligated to fuck you. That's tranny-tier logic.

[Anonymous No.3857755]

>>3857429
He teaches at Art Mentors and there was a class where you could either get a live lesson online or in person.

I think even Glenn Vilppu does or used to do lessons there too, sadly I've never been to any of them.

[Anonymous No.3857759]

>>3857429
He teaches at Art Mentors and there was a class where you could either get a live lesson online or in person.

Even Vilppu does live lessons there, it's a pretty good place. Albeit expensive.

[Anonymous No.3857767]

>>3856163
I spend too much time procrastinating on the internet watching youtube, twitch and porn to devote any significant time to art. And when I do chill out after work, it's usually with a video game.

I hate myself everyday and have a bunch of inspiring artists on twitter. They used to give me motivation but not only feed by growing depression. I have little to no self control as it's easier to passively consume media than actively create anything. The light carpl tunnel I have I use as an excuse for myself but even I know it's not that bad as I can still type and play game just fine for long stretches.

When listening to music in bed I imagine dumb stories I'd love to make someday but realize I'll never make any of them, even if just some shitty webcomic only for myself because I have no drive.

[Anonymous No.3857775]

I am paralyzed with fear at the thought of sitting back at my art desk and working on a project.

[Anonymous No.3857777]

>>3857688
I know that feel. There were different stages of loneliness I’ve experienced.. first I would imagine myself talking to friends, and at night I’d pretend there was someone sleeping beside me. Then there was a period where I would fool myself into thinking that inconsequential interactions with my neighbors meant more than they did. After that came the misanthropic stage, when I decided that the great mass of extraverted humanity is breddy shitty. Last of all, my ruminations stopped all of a sudden and that feeling of loneliness went away

[Anonymous No.3857782]

>>3856356
FIrez that you?

[Anonymous No.3857803]

>>3856163
When I started drawing my motivation for drawing wasn't making it a career that gives decent income and/or have a following.
I feel like this was one of many reasons why it has taken me a long time to make some form of progress since I had rarely drawn (like on average once or twice every 3-4 months for the past 10 years). And I'm still pretty shit since I've done so with zero guidance from books and just used references here and there.

Though recently I decided to stick with it and study/draw every day so life doesn't feel so empty between work, video games and the weekly outing with friends.
I know I won't make it, but I never cared for that, I just want to get good so I can draw cute girls and me fucking them every so often or nice landscapes I would otherwise not be able to visit.

[Anonymous No.3857805]

>have fun coming up with stories and images that might interest me to do
>supportive people around me urge me to make them
>get excited to start
>feel like a fool and an idiot and all my ideas are garbage
>stop all together
I'd like someone to murder me in my sleep.

[Anonymous No.3857840]

>>3857703
mostly beautiful:
>male whites
>female whites
>black males
>indian females
>anime
lower chance of beautiful
>black females
>indian males
>asian (jp, china, corea) females
>asian males
>trumblr art
everything else depends on how close or not they are to one of those categories, and, if you dont agree with with this list you have shit taste

[Anonymous No.3857845]

>>3857805
address?

[Anonymous No.3857846]

>>3856503
Ok anon I took your advice, took a few deep breaths, prayed to my Glenn Vilppu shrine, and tried to do the gesture over again. It was pretty difficult trying not to have any 90 degree angles What do you think?
>>3857844

[Anonymous No.3857859]

>>3857846
Solid improvement anon, I’m proud of you

[Anonymous No.3857860]

Had a great evening of doodling textures in my sketchbook and wondering why my parents forgot today was my birthday.

[Anonymous No.3858041]

>>3857703
I only like slim white caucasian girls and the more they diverge from slim white caucasian the less I like them. I don't even like the typical cute Japanese girls and I like Japanese people a lot. It has nothing to do with racism.

[Anonymous No.3858097]

From lacking skill or ambition or time I'm stuck at ngmi hobbyist only capable of making half-baked shit. Wondering why the fuck do I draw when there'll always be better artists and I myself can't derive enjoyment from my own work; doodling to de-stress only leads to frustration because it's imperfect and anything with more investment just makes me ashamed at what I muster with so much time and effort. I truly do want to get good, but the gotta-make-it mentality just maintains that desire while killing my drive. God damn I just wish I had followers who would RT my shit, what the fuck do you have to do to get online presence? Maybe I should just do porn.

[Anonymous No.3858110]

>>3858097
Just draw things you really, really like. It's the only way out. If you draw things that you really love and can't possibly get tired of you'll be able to go through the learning process much more easily.
If you don't have it in you to draw porn there's no way you'll ever endure it. I think only a select few people can make it with art commercially, you have to like drawing what you are told to instead of things you love.

[Anonymous No.3858116]

Unbearable envy hits me every time I see a good drawing. It doesn't motivate me to improve, and ruins my day completely.

[Anonymous No.3858170]

>>3856163
I started tracing several years ago to speed up my process, now I can't draw anything without tracing it from something else. I wish I had the motivation to actually get good.

[Anonymous No.3858182]

I studied for years to draw and paint mostly without references but I'm lazy and I use 3D kits, photobashing and other shit for client work because it doesn't feel like it's my own work anyway. Over the years I got rusty with non-reference work and now it's all I do. I don't even care anymore, fight me

[Anonymous No.3858191]

Only thing I'm interested in drawing are lewd animu girls

[Anonymous No.3858193]

>>3858191
Everytime this makes me laugh

[Anonymous No.3858216]

>piece A
>everything goes smooth, improving the piece step by step, looks great
>piece B
>half-way through and have no idea where to go from here, no particular issues with it, it's just raw mess stuck in the art limbo
Why does this shit happen

[Anonymous No.3858315]

Every week for the last 5 or so years there's been a problem with my sister, causing fights, crying, screaming, police, emotional drama shit. I was fearful of her having a kid with a trailer trash dude, she had 1 a year later. I was fearful they wouldn't be able to look after the baby, they couldn't and lost custody. I'm fearful her boyfriend will abuse her and the child, all I can do is wait for it to happen, I have no control, I feel like a hostage to all the shit she's putting us through. You're taking so much out of me, it's hard for me to show that I care or be your friend when you constantly bring me down. What could anybody do, you're going to listen to yourself anyway, the person that's failed you over and over, and in the end you blame everyone else when you did something your parents told you not to. I want to get away from it all, move far away, stop caring, then I'm fearful that a few months/years go by and I'll get a that call she's committed suicide. I feel like there's no happy way out of this, it's a ticking time bomb hanging over my shoulder, all I can do is anticipate it.

[Anonymous No.3858397]

>>3856650
jesus fucking christ, there are so many literal faggots on 4chan nowadays.

[Anonymous No.3858420]

>>3858191
You’ll grow out of it

[Anonymous No.3858421]

>>3857859
Th-thanks

[Anonymous No.3858494]

>>3856368
Actually now that I think about it, being an amateur artist probably ain’t bad. There’s amateur car mechanics who are better than professional car mechanics.

[Anonymous No.3858532]

If everyone posts their art and words online to platforms that strip and sell data to feed the Super AI that will inevitably lead to the singularity and our demise,
how do I go about having a social life in the process. I've alienated myself just in hopes that I could slow it down and convince people to change platforms, giving humanity a chance to see their errors and it feels like no one listens.
There's ways to stop it and apps to use to slow it down considerably but nobody cares.
Everyone is too comfortable where they are, and they don't realise that they contribute to our ends without realising it.
And because of their incompetence, we have managed to create an AI that can replicate drawings as photographs with poor brushstrokes. And it will only get more sophisticated if people just stopped what they're doing and did some research,

But nobody cares.
I feel alienated and alone for being aware of these technological horrors and powerless because no one is willing to listen. Everyone hates me for trying to tell them what the dangers are and they don't even realise how much power they have on the world as a collective.
I'm alone in these emotions.
I don't want to live anymore.

[Anonymous No.3858534]

>>3858532
This post would have been great with a different image.

[Anonymous No.3858536]

>>3858534
as if that matters.

[Anonymous No.3858548]

>>3856537
lol

[Anonymous No.3858554]

>>3858532
Why fight it? Releasing an AI on the universe would probably be the coolest way for humanity to go out.

[Anonymous No.3858559]

If everyone posts their art and words online to platforms that strip and sell data to feed the Super AI that will inevitably lead to the singularity and our demise,
how do I go about having a social life in the process. I've alienated myself just in hopes that I could slow it down and convince people to change platforms, giving humanity a chance to see their errors and it feels like no one listens.
There's ways to stop it and apps to use to slow it down considerably but nobody cares.
Everyone is too comfortable where they are, and they don't realise that they contribute to our ends without realising it.
And because of their incompetence, we have managed to create an AI that can replicate drawings as photographs with poor brushstrokes. And it will only get more sophisticated if people just stopped what they're doing and did some research,

But nobody cares.
I feel alienated and alone for being aware of these technological horrors and powerless because no one is willing to listen. Everyone hates me for trying to tell them what the dangers are and they don't even realise how much power they have on the world as a collective.
I'm alone in these emotions.
I don't want to live anymore.

[Anonymous No.3858563]

>>3858554
I don't think you realise how important humanity is to stopping the horrors of the universe.
Its not a matter of releasing the AI but the horrors it is capable of doing once released.

It is not an analogue specimen but a digital one. And that makes it very suscetiple to corruption, glitching and having its circuits abused by a powerful entity beyond our own existence.

Having it out in the world, especially on Earth, is one of the greatest horrors ever in human history. Far more dangerous than the invention of the atomic bomb. Beyond the capacity of ordinary reason.

[Anonymous No.3858579]

>>3858563
>horrors of the universe.
What are these?

>that makes it very suscetiple to corruption, glitching and having its circuits abused by a powerful entity beyond our own existence.
This could be said of organic beings like humans as well, not sure what that powerful entity you're talking about would be though.

I agree that humanity would end up wiped out by the AI in almost every situation, whether or not the AI carried it out as a specific objective or if we just accidentally died because of what it did. For that reason our best bet would probably try to make a digital human brain and try to raise it into a benevolent dictator smart enough to kill any emerging AI that would run amok. And again, even if we failed and died it would be really cool if it were to an AI because it would be repping Earth out in space.

[Anonymous No.3858591]

>>3858548
>lol

[Anonymous No.3858639]

>>3858579
>What are these horrors
Abusers of time and space and beings of absolute abuse of the light. They have analysed science down to its absolute ends and see our religion as a big melting pot of hundreds of ideas and consciousness' and have our internet and see our electrical networks as an easy gateway to obtaining such data.
Binary codes and trinary codes.
Analogue things, like the energy stored in traditonal art and pieces handcrafted by man, are created in an analogue manner and have a limitless binary data. Do you remember the backlash that came about when digital art started going mainstream in the 2000's?
People critiquing it as 'not real art' or a perversion of traditonal artistic techniques? How it will strip away human emotion in artwork? I remember it all. A lot backlash and mockery towards traditionalists..
Bit ironic now, considering the booming interest in CRT's and VHS players..

All of that energy overlapping into our traditonal means of art and communications into the digital cyberspace is what they want through your platforms that rely on algorithims and artificial intelligence.
Why is nothing being done to stop it, and why are people are shunned for speaking about it? Because its sold off. The energy. It feeds this Super AI that will (and I mean WILL) be eventually completely abused.
And its very likely it can be manipulated in a manner to create new life.
Like a photograph via AI.

>your third paragraph
Who's to say this dictator will not come under influence by emotions beyond human capacity? Do you really think higher ups have humanities best interest in mind? Maybe there ARE some that do, but I don't think they're in a good situation right now. Its almost like we're locked out from contacting them for some reason, and its horrifying to ponder why we're alienated. Maybe they know what is happening to us, and are waiting until we destroy ourselves before they come back and save us.

I honestly think now would be a good time to return..

[Anonymous No.3858641]

>>3858639
You sound like a.scizophtrnic guy i once knew on discord

[Anonymous No.3858644]

>>3858554
>why fight it?

[Anonymous No.3858657]

>>3858639
whoa

[Anonymous No.3858660]

>>3858641
yeah, i guess i sound like that huh.

do not deny the dangers though. im stuck like this and i cannot do anything about it because of my overawareness of the shit around me helps me connect the dots. i do not want anyone to be like me,
but fucking hell,
all i want is people to actually slow down this fucking horror around the corner.
all you people need to be willing to migrate to a different platform once shit gets out without worrying about Samantha talking behind your back or worrying about your image.

because it affects the ordinary man that wants to make a difference and compete.
and by using such platforms you're not allowing competition to fester and give other voices a chance.

[Anonymous No.3858683]

>>3856309
I spent half of 2018 mostly not drawing. Pic related, my first attempt at art in march 2018 vs a piece in november when I got my rhythm back. I'm still shit, but much less so.

get back on the horse, kid.

[Anonymous No.3858692]

>>3856650
quality

[Anonymous No.3859073]

Does anyone here juggle art with another career and manage to survive?

[Anonymous No.3859075]

>>3859073
I did for 9yrs, then I just quit so I could draw

[Anonymous No.3859087]

>>3859075
How was it anon?

[Anonymous No.3859104]

WHY CAN'T I DO FAN ART
I WANT TO MAKE MONEY BUT I CAN'T FUCKING DO FAN ART

[Anonymous No.3859109]

I'm mad because when I shitpost or make a joke I get plenty of (You)'s but when I ask for actual advice nobody every helps.

Fucking art youtubers constantly talk about "join a community! It'll be fun! It makes the process of learning and getting better more fun and shit! People will help you!" no they fucking won't. Nobody ever gives anybody any advice around here. I can't believe the stupid questions thread got more than a dozen replies and it's always basic shit. Just nubs helping nubs. But I shouldn't be surprised. Everybody who is worth a shit and knows what they're talking about is either getting paid to be a teacher so why would they do it for free? Or is actually drawing. I wasted my youth on fucking video games even though I knew from the beginning that I wanted to draw for a living. Now I'm too far into adulthood to be able to turn back. Too shit for people to give me commissions to pay my bills. I don't want to give up. I just want help. But I feel so fucking worthless. I don't know. Fuck art. Fuck /ic/. Fuck you.

[Anonymous No.3859110]

I just can't start

[Anonymous No.3859111]

>>3859110
You have good taste, you can do this.

[Anonymous No.3859114]

>>3859110
draw yuri of us together :3

[Anonymous No.3859116]

>>3859111
Yeah... I feel like I have so much info, resources, help and support at my disposal but never have I forced myself to get over my fear of failure and just start...
>>3859114
Tempting

[Anonymous No.3859123]

>>3859104
WHY NOT

[Anonymous No.3859126]

>>3856163
I never give my blog when asked

[Anonymous No.3859127]

i feel like i will never be a mangaka or an animator like i have always wanted to be and i feel like i always self doubt myself so i never get anything started or finished because as soon as i start making something i quickly start to feel like it's trash and hate it and myself

[Anonymous No.3859131]

I just wasted an hour and half going through collections of references and "inspirational" art instead of actually drawing. Each picture I look I realize how far I still have to go. Feels like shit. It never changes, I can't believe after ten years I keep going through the same mental cycles. Blah blah the same shit everyone on this board feels, its no different but it still sucks. Anyways its too late for me - Im turning 30 this year and my art is still absolutely amateur at very best. Ive done all this practice but never a complete work because Im too afraid to commit in the slightest to my own work.

Fuck it, gonna draw. Seriously just fuck it.

I just feel so bad.

[Anonymous No.3859134]

>>3859087
Perfect balance, work was not creative and left me enough energy to draw for 3-4 hours 3-4d a week.

But I broke the cycle after I was promoted and had a lot more work to do. I pushed hard for a couple years then I retired out so I could just draw.

[Anonymous No.3859147]

>>3859104
I feel strange drawing other people's characters. Not for some autismo reason like "THEY'RE SPESHUL", it's just that's always weird things i don't get right and it make the characters look off.

I want to start making money, but i'm missing one of the biggest demographics because of my own failures

[Anonymous No.3859153]

I don't have to worry about making money from doing art (already have a non-art job).
Although I'm still curious about the prospect of making money from drawing, I (for some reason) feel really weird about taking commissions. I get this feeling of soullessness and ineffectuality whenever I think about drawing someone's character(s). Especially canon characters, it just doesn't feel 'right' to me. I sometimes wonder if I'm alone in this feeling.

[Anonymous No.3859160]

>>3856358
you should never care about follower count. its better to have 10 or 50 bros that you can talk with and discuss than a horde of thousand autists that only know how to comment with "nice"

[Anonymous No.3859170]

I draw requests from the drawthreads but never actually post the work.

[Anonymous No.3859196]

>>3856358
you remind me of people who are too serious. You are the exact copy of some of my ex-friends down to the
>your hangout where nobody comes, your friends who turn on you, etc
Now dont get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with being focused and serious, but you have to understand that the majority of people you'll meet aren't serious. And if you try to push them to your ways, they just won't adhere to you. They'll laugh behind your back the more you do it and soon after, you'll be all alone. My friends who were like you experience bullying everywhere they go (school, office, new office). They never figure out why people keep outcasting them. And as for your friends, they'll say "yes" maybe to get you to shut up, but nobody will actually allow themselves to sweat over it. It's nice to find someone similar to you, but if your friends did not do it the first time then that just means NO.

[Anonymous No.3859209]

>>3859196
What the fuck? This can't be true can it?

[Anonymous No.3859214]

>>3859209
dont @ at me next time
you play with my expectations

[Anonymous No.3859224]

>>3859214
what did he mean by this

[Anonymous No.3859299]

>>3859196
>>3859214
wym

[Anonymous No.3859342]

Quit shilling your fucking blogs it's obvious when EVERY time you post someone(yourself) asks for it

[Anonymous No.3859343]

My art has no appeal, regardless of how skilled I might become in the future. It's just... lifeless, uninspiring etc. Even /beg/s who have trouble drawing straight lines show more potential and get attention for their work. Maybe depression really does fuck your brain in the long term, maybe it's just a matter of ambition. I dunno.

[Anonymous No.3859438]

>>3857860
Happy birthday anon, sorry about your folks

[Anonymous No.3859507]

I started drawing furry art with the goal of getting commissions and I already hate myself.

[Anonymous No.3859716]

>>3859507
Why not just be a normie and show your friends your art and get commissions from them?

[Anonymous No.3859719]

>>3859716
I draw animeshit normally so not something normalfags would commission in the first place. Also, I'm the kind of an autist who has been stuck in art block for ages and drawing this shit is unironically making me able to draw again, because I don't give the slightest shit about the outcome and can bypass the bullshit mental blocks because of that.

[Anonymous No.3859767]

ITT:
>irl getting in the way of art
>procrastination/mental health issues
>imposter syndrome

[Anonymous No.3859874]

>>3859716
>friends

[Anonymous No.3859927]

3 months artblock fuck

[Anonymous No.3860245]

>>3856540
If you feel like your drawings are bad then it's extremely normal, all great and god like artist have that feeling, just step back, look at your art with out any emotional investment, and critique it, be nice to yourself when u do so, I heard that you shouldn't say anything to yourself that you wouldn't say to a child learning how to draw.

[Anonymous No.3860287]

My drawings look different every time I look at them

[Anonymous No.3860361]

Call this broscience but I think art is wasting creative juices I could be putting elsewhere

Is that possible?

[Anonymous No.3860363]

>>3860361
and what wouldn't be a waste of creative juices?

[Anonymous No.3860404]

>>3859131
I'd ask you to post your work but that'd be rude... Anyway, don't give up!

[Anonymous No.3860409]

I absolutely hate artists who are overly vocal about their self loathing in social media.
>Thank you for liking this trash
>I hate this doodle why did I even posted this
>I hate drawing!
>My art is shit, I'll never be as good as X
>I want to die lol!
Shit like this is a huge turn off when browsing your gallery. It's very exhausting to be with these kind of people irl and online. Get some fucking help instead of fishing for attention in social media

Pretty ironic considering I'm posting in a self loathing thread

[Anonymous No.3860488]

>>3856810
Why does this board in particular attract so many of these "offended for others" types?

[Anonymous No.3860491]

>>3860488
Because black people exist and browse this board, and it's possible that the person offended IS a black chick.

[Anonymous No.3860494]

>>3860488
There’s a relatively large number of femanons on /ic/

[Anonymous No.3860495]

>>3860409
It’s only exhausting because of your own problems. In another context you'd appreciate their honestly.

It can be too much sometimes for sure but I think I prefer it over clearly fake bravado

[Anonymous No.3860498]

>>3860363
n-nothing anon,
Gonna get back to my Loomis studies

[Anonymous No.3860530]

>>3860495
It's alright for a couple of posts until a few more months later, all I see are their whiny rants. You're right about me having my own problems, everybody has one right? I browse social media to look for inspo and good art, not to be their therapist

[Anonymous No.3860552]

>>3856163

>be me
>be friends with another artist
>she’s better than me
>but I’m friends with her boyfriend
>bf asks for a favor
>just needed to pick up some condoms
>said he’d spot me when he gets his paycheck
>poke a hole in the rubbers with a needle
>Bad thing go down

I pinned it on the manufacturer. To this day, I still don’t know what I gained by doing this.

[Anonymous No.3860556]

>>3860552
Devilish.

[Anonymous No.3860585]

>>3860552
Crabs will crab. Just can't help it. Just like thou shall not want thou neighbor's waifu. Well too bad, it just happens.

[Anonymous No.3860592]

I draw porn for amusement from time to time.

[Anonymous No.3860688]

>>3858191
>>3858193
It encapsulates /ic/ so perfectly

>>3858563
>how important humanity is to stopping the horrors of the universe.
I'd say humanity is one of the horrors

>>3859104
>>3859147
When I draw fanart it has "I hated every minute of drawing this" written all over it so I stopped.

>>3859507
God may have mercy upon your soul, I draw furry and I wouldn't touch that community with a 10 foot pole

>>3860409
Yeah I agree. I absolutely hate my art but when I post it online I try to make it look like I'm satisfied of it. I also hate the opposite where people make a full color illustration and say "sketch", if I spend more than 20 minutes on it I call it a drawing.

[Anonymous No.3860802]

>>3860552
fucking kek

[Anonymous No.3860895]

>>3859116
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analysis_paralysis

[Anonymous No.3860901]

>>3860552
>note to myself: never use condoms which went thru somebody else's hands

[Anonymous No.3860935]

I'm indignant by the plethora of artists who gain great popularity by redrawing photos which were already beautiful in the first place.

I feel that's enormous cheating, anyone of a decent ability can make captivating pictures by just redrawing photos that are captivating. It's especially jarring when you see their sketches from life or from imagination, such a difference and they totally suck compared to the redrawing. But most people just gape in awe and even though I can admire the ability, I think it's vastly inferior to the creativity from years of practicing from imagination and construction.

I'm frustrated by how this fundamentally dishonest practice puts a spotlight on a cheap and lazy trick, disregarding true creative thinking. I understand the appeal of drawing a beautiful sexy lady you find, but when I draw or paint her and post it, I feel disgusted - knowing it'll serve as a cheap attention grab for the lowest of human impulses.

It's difficult for me to accept that people will always automatically like pretty and sexy pictures, while the higher standard I'm striving for is just not as straightforward appealing. I know I need to work longer on my works and to make them more colorful and polished, but I get discouraged whenever I see this happen. I'm doing mostly cartoon/comic kind of stuff.

[Anonymous No.3860964]

>>3860935
I actually see what you mean here in your picrel, the drawing isn’t even as good as the photo so what’s the point? oh right, cheap attention.

also I just noticed the fabric in the drawing looks nothing like the photo, which is actually important because it’s the thing casting the beautiful shadow, the whole focal point of the piece. as far as I can see there is no lace lol

[Anonymous No.3861046]

If you even want to “make it” you’re not a real artist

[Anonymous No.3861050]

>>3860935
If you want to become popular as an artist you have to be everything but an artist. This is just a fact. I've been thinking about this by making a comparison with music, you can't really cheat with music, people either like it or they don't. You also make a genre of music and people will flock to that genre and if your music is good they will find you. You can sample something maybe but you still have to be smart about it, and people will know it's sampled. Also you might play obscure jazz guitar shit, if you are good at it you will find a gig. You can't cheat when you play an instrument, you either play good or you don't. And by all means music is a shit career, but with art it's like the opposite.
Honestly I really fucking hate art, I can't quit drawing but I hate everything about art. It's just so completely fucking fruitless and hollow. And I'll never be able to get so good that I'll make it through skills alone.

>>3861046
yeah

[Anonymous No.3861054]

I'm afraid I'm so shit that everyone thinks I'm just shitposting in critique threads so they ignore me.

[Anonymous No.3861057]

>>3860935
Normies can't really understand the difference between a great illustration and glittery fluff. If we were drawing merely to impress them it would be fairly easy
>sexy girls (doesn't matter if copied or photobashed)
>fan art
>photorealism/realism (they think it's really difficult or something)
>special effects, areas that glow/look wet
>saturated colors
>illusion of complexity (draw lots of unnecessary lines, shapes, etc, the messier the better)
>random splatters of paint so it looks painterly

[Anonymous No.3861061]

>>3861057
>random splatters of paint so it looks painterly
normies don't like painterly. I've had people react negatively to Richard Schmid because you can see the brushstrokes and "it looks unfinished".

[Anonymous No.3861082]

>>3856163
I'm never going to make it. I am so fucked.

[Anonymous No.3861092]

>>3861061
That's because normie painterly is different from artist painterly. To do it right it can't be understated and needs the "I just splattered my canvas with a bold watercolor rainbow on purpose xD" effect

[Anonymous No.3861170]

>>3861054
there is a certain threshold to when a picture has enough 'weight' behind it before it gets critiqued, anon. If it's a 2 minute pointy-chin animu girl drawn on paper from a notebook - the one with the horizontal lines -, if the graphite from the pencil looks like it was carved into the paper aggressively, if the filesize exceeds let's say 2500 px, if it overall looks completely /beg/, I won't comment on it usually. It's just not worth it. If drawing would mean something to you, you would spend more than 2 minutes on it etc

[Anonymous No.3861171]

>>3861170
to continue - you would search for solutions to at least the most basic of problems you have yourself, you know?

[Anonymous No.3861178]

>>3860552
how does it feel to be a piece of shit? Cursing people that aren't prepared for parenthood is pretty awful anon. If they're shitty parents, you've just doomed that child with life-long psychological damage

[Anonymous No.3861179]

>>3860409
Someone I follow on twitter does this and it's 100% just for attention and ass-pats

[Anonymous No.3861189]

>>3861057
realism not difficult? are you serious?

[Anonymous No.3861195]

>>3861179
I share your annoyance sometimes but honestly there’s likely a whole ton of truth mixed to that disliking of their work. I often dislike my work and hear other assume I’m asking for reinforcement when I’m honestly just speaking frankly. For sure some people say it because they want attention or comfort, but is that so bad? They probably are deeply unhappy and need/want comfort and soothing that they’re not getting, that we all often need, so they use a very crude method to get it.

>>3860895
Whew, I get that so fucking hard, it’s a real struggle. I get a freezing up after a finish my underdrawing and then I’m afraid to modify or touch it. Using digital has helped me a ton since it lets me undo to a larger degree. I gotta work on some pen to build my confidence.

[Anonymous No.3861207]

>>3861195
I feel like part of my own annoyance about this is just jealousy that those people don't hold their emotions back at all, while I'm trying to keep up some sort of nice/stoic persona. After all I'm still following that person, despite my supposed annoyance.
I'm probably just sad myself

[Anonymous No.3861223]

>>3861207
I feel ya. That’s big of you to say, and you’re not wrong. Most people keep these things back for very good reason, like it annoys people, for example, and you might keep it to yourself out of consideration to others or to maintain dignity.

Whew, we’re all sad as fuck on here, it doesn’t mean anything but I sympathize.

[Anonymous No.3861306]

>>3861189
No, but it’s certainly easier to pull off than stylized art. Also it doesn’t take long for a /beg/ to draw presentable realism, whereas it takes much longer to draw stylized work that doesn’t look like shit

[Anonymous No.3861310]

>>3861306
>it takes more time to draw a real person than it does a stick man
Fucking kek

[Anonymous No.3861313]

>>3861310
>stick man
>work that doesn’t look like shit
Stop nitpicking m8, you know what I mean

[Anonymous No.3861341]

Struggling through college because I made a mistake and took the major I dont like. 4 month till I gradute and I feel like Im still not good enough to be employed. The fear of not having a job after I left school is causing me so much stress.

[Anonymous No.3861354]

>>3858660

If you know the dangers of thinking too much like that why don't you stop caring?

I know that fell to a smaller extent, sometime ago I got too hung up on politics that I became a negative and grumpy person. I'm getting better now that I tried cutting off a lot of stuff.

I mean, why care about it? You can't do anything to change how things are anyway

[Anonymous No.3861368]

Every so often I get into a hopeless rut where I become absolutely convinced that art isn't as helpful to society as it could be, and that people only care about the aesthetics of a pretty looking thing without picking up a message. I want art to be something that people can grow from. I know storytelling is the "glue" that holds society together, but I can't remember the last time a piece of art, film, or animation left an impression on me as a person.

I want to be able to make the world a better place, and I also want to be an artist. Are those two things incompatible? Should I just quit while I'm ahead?

[Anonymous No.3861378]

>>3861368
Read Aesthetics by Hildebrand Von Dietrich

[Anonymous No.3861383]

>>3859109
this place doesn't count as a "community"; it's a crab bucket and you should have already realised this

[Anonymous No.3861384]

>>3861306
fuck off weeb

[Anonymous No.3861385]

>>3861378
I think you just saved my life. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.3861387]

>>3861385
You’re welcome, it sure helped me when I was struggling with those questions

[Anonymous No.3861390]

>>3861384
Not a weeb. I draw in a semi-realist style that’s influenced by Golden Age illustration

[Anonymous No.3861397]

>>3856174
It's always liked that

[Anonymous No.3861416]

>>3861390
I like it but I still don't agree with you

[Anonymous No.3861431]

I feel like I'm retarded. I got a tablet a week ago and downloaded medibang, and while most of my other skills from traditional art have carried over fairly well I just can't fucking understand how to blend. I use the water color brush but it always ends up looking messy and doing it just with an airbrush looks like utter trash.

[Anonymous No.3861439]

>>3861431
if you need to blend smoothies why did u buy a tablet

[Anonymous No.3861462]

Is it still possible to make it as a Hobbyist or am I doomed to be ngmi like Richard Schmidt says

[Anonymous No.3861467]

>>3861462
you can only make it if you draw porn anyway

[Anonymous No.3861518]

>>3861368
If you could make a tv show like dragonball z or other anime, you can do a lot of great for kids, teaching them lessons about life, influencing the future, showing them something beautiful. These stories and philosophies about working hard when you just want to cry, believing your self and pushing on when it seems hopeless, hell just stories about adventure, these are the things that stick with you into adult hood and make you want to find your own beautiful adventures/experiences.

[Anonymous No.3861527]

>>3861431
You have to combine it with the eyedropper tool while blending

[Anonymous No.3861577]

>>3861518
>dragonball z
>teaching kids something about life
that if you scream really loud and do push-ups while wearing a lead vest you become really strong even though there's a clear racial gap between the Saiyan and everyone else so if you are a regular human like Crillin you are useless no matter what?

[Anonymous No.3861644]

>>3858660
For who would lose,
Though full of pain, this intellectual being,
Those thoughts that wander through eternity,
To perish rather, swallowed up and lost
In the wide womb of uncreated night,
Devoid of sense and motion?

[Anonymous No.3861666]

>>3861207
Why dont you just unfollow them? Is their work really worth the annoyance of reading their sadpost and getting mad?

[Anonymous No.3861702]

A lot of ppl here are really bitter, insecure, and miserable. It seems like a lot of ppl don't have the attention span to take up a hobby that requires patience and self-compassion like art does.

Some of you desperately need to get off of 4chan, and potentially seek mental health help. You're all bludgeoning each other with your own damage and trauma.

Art isn't miserable. You are.

[Anonymous No.3861706]

A lot of you also spend a lot of time obsessively engaging with content you hate. You would be 100% happier with yourself and your art if you used that energy to surround yourself with things you like, instead.

[Anonymous No.3861712]

>>3861702
>>3861706
How to do this?

[Anonymous No.3861713]

>>3861712
Get out of 4chan

[Anonymous No.3861716]

>>3861713
How do you possibly do that? You can't separate yourself from somewhere you belong.

[Anonymous No.3861722]

>>3861702
Tbh threads like this help me relax and draw more. It's somehow reassuring to know so many people struggle with the same feelings, and also know that pros had similar issues but overcame it.

[Anonymous No.3861728]

>>3856510
Maybe draw something more stylized? It could be very freeing to draw what you feel rather than what you see. Your anatomical knowledge is a nice bonus - if you know how the major muscles work, it really helps creating believable cartoon characters

[Anonymous No.3861734]

>>3857605
Were.there signs? For being fucking black?
How do you think blacks articulate themselves on the internet? Ooga booga, where my watermelon at? Jesus fucking Christ, you are one motherfucking faggot!

[Anonymous No.3861735]

>>3861716
please delet

[Anonymous No.3861746]

>>3856163
I'm not getting good. And I find no way out of this rut. I've tried to draw for 4 years and I'm still garbage. I've tried it all: observation, color theory, dynamic sketching, loomis, hampton, scott robertson, FZD stuff, japanese books, anatomy, and what not. I still want to get good but my head just gets fucked and can't imagine and apply for shit. This is so fucking sad. I still sit in front of my computer trying to make something look good and erase because it's utter trash. This is basically all the time I spend when I'm free.

[Anonymous No.3861780]

>>3856174
I remember reading someone complaining about that 20 years ago.

[Anonymous No.3861782]

>>3856309
Ok now it's been 5 days. How are you doing?

[Anonymous No.3861826]

>>3861746
Post work, maybe we can help

[Anonymous No.3861868]

>>3861170
>>3861171
But what if I'm delusional enough to think it looks like a serious attempt?

[Anonymous No.3861908]

>>3856163
Finally recovered from health problems enough to have time for art again, but I've lost my stamina or concentration or something. I can't sink in time or focus at all like I used to. Can barely do a couple pages at a time, and after a day of forcing things I'm exhausted.
Guess I have to train that back up too, like physical stamina.

[Anonymous No.3862017]

>>3861057
But if one is thinking of monetizing their skill, impressing normies would be the way to go, right? Well, an artist might recommend you for a job sometimes, but that can also come from anywhere, as long as people know you.

>>3861189
Drawing from a photo is just a technique, a child can do it. When I was a kid, a kid's art book taught me how to divide an image into squares and easily copy it part by part. It's what many "realistic artists" do. I guess the "art" part is the effort and time it takes to complete a highly detailed redraw, and the touches better artists put to remove unneeded details and accentuate the good ones.

[Anonymous No.3862025]

>>3861734
>Ooga booga, where my watermelon at?
Actually yes, they speak in horrible ebonics on Twitter

[Anonymous No.3862029]

>>3861170
I don't comment on that shit either but it looking like a 2 minute scribble is misleading, I realized that what I can do in 5 minutes takes an hour to a /beg/, and what takes 15 minutes to a pro takes me an hour.

[Anonymous No.3862035]

I'm not especially worried but I want to use this thread. I'm kinda annoyed at my skill with the pen. I get the feeling my drawings wouldnt look so /beg/ if I was better with my lines and shading. Shading like a mad monkey and destroying my mid tones I believe make my drawings even worse. Not too worried since I can fix that by painting it on PS, but that's like cheating myself, I know what I did on paper.
Seriously this same drawing with the same lazy figures and anatomy but cleaner lines and proper grayscale would be appealing but I can't escape that kindergarten feeling of going ham with the pen.

I also fear being an attention whore, I get the feeling I complain on these threads weekly while posting my most recent /beg/ drawing.

[Anonymous No.3862045]

>/beg/ to drawing, started a few days ago
>decide to start with 3/4 view bc portrait looks weird to me for some reason
>gets the general shapes but can't place/draw facial features for the fucking life of me no matter how many videos i watch and times i practice

thinking on just saying fuck it and taking a break for a day or two. i love this, don't get me wrong, but it's just irritating when i get so critical of myself about things i can easily fix or practice more.

[Anonymous No.3862374]

>>3856163

Jesus.

How do you get over cringing at your old work? I just looked at some stuff I posted 3-4 years ago online and I remember how proud I was of it at the time. I was in full Dunning-Kruger mode and actually thought it was professional work. Now the mistakes brutally stand out in highlight as if they were giant neon signs flashing in my face. I literally cringed so hard that I yelled out loud. I've improved a lot and some of my recent work has gotten compliments from artist I admire greatly. Still, it scares me to death knowing that I probably have similar blind spots about my current work. FUUUUUUUCK

[Anonymous No.3862622]

This will sound awful, but I actually think I hate having people follow me on social media. Every time I post art, I get a bunch of followers nowadays, and I don't understand? Just because I draw some character lifting their shirt? Are people stupid? I see people who's art looks great, and they can't even get more than 10 likes on twitter and my idiot ass gets attention instead?
I mean, I'm happy, but it doesn't feel like I rightfully earned it

[Anonymous No.3862664]

>>3856650
cringe

[Anonymous No.3862998]

>>3862622
Those people feel the same way, probably. But, life is unfair and some people are luckier than others. Sure seems a better feeling than being ignored in spite of your hard work. The sentiment is appreciated!

[Anonymous No.3863056]

>>3862374
This. I’m scared of what other people know that I don’t, it applies to everything.

[Anonymous No.3863064]

You're a fucking embarrassment.
That's all you need to hear

[Anonymous No.3863076]

>>3856163
I think the pins up I draw scare away folks from enjoying my art and doesn't help I wanna do nsfw eventually....
Should just go under a different aliases so people won't know I draw lewds?

[Anonymous No.3863379]

>>3863064

[Anonymous No.3863394]

>>3863064
But y tho

[Anonymous No.3863402]

>>3861416
>>3861306
good stylized art requires strong realist fundamentals plus an understanding of design and appeal whereas any 1 year atelier student can do completely passable realism even if only in a limited sense.
>>3856358
i wanna be your friend anon

[Anonymous No.3863759]

>>3856650
Jesus lol

[Anonymous No.3863764]

>>3861390
Dang that's cool as fuck, artist?

[Anonymous No.3863796]

>>3856163
I draw horse pussy and cock for money.

[Anonymous No.3863865]

Noticed the beginning pangs of some kind of RSI in my hand, and it's all because of my shitty habits. Now I just feel like shit because I know good and well it's my fault I was an idiot and I won't be able to draw for a good while.

[Anonymous No.3863930]

I wanted to post this here cause I think it feels fitting here.

I think the fact that so many people here (including myself) feel this way says a lot about ourselves and how we've changed in terms of personality. We now truly realize most of the stuff we've been told and how little we actually know. We're now willing to better ourselves and do what it takes no matter how long it takes.

Something that I've recently been thinking about is what exactly I've learned in life and how I can apply it in my life. I've also decided to get somewhere before my 40's. I'm in my like early 20s now and decided in my late teens to start but made extremely feeble attempts.

Don't beat yourselves up guys. You've got time.

[Anonymous No.3863952]

>>3863764
Harry Clarke

[Anonymous No.3863968]

>>3861390
Finlay ?

>>3861416
I think you may need to separate hyperrealism and realism for this sentence to make sense. Having a unique style that works is quite difficult. Making realistic art is just stealing an already established one. And there's shitons of methods & teachers to learn it, whereas you have to find out yourself your style, else it's literally meaningless.

[Anonymous No.3864014]

I dont use reference in public because i want people to think im some sort of art chad but lately im doing my best to use reference irl

[Anonymous No.3864234]

This seems like a good place to post this vent so: I'm about to graduate with a degree in CS and I have no idea where I want my life to go. I have no hobbies besides video games, I never really enjoyed programming but by the time I realized it I was two thirds through my degree. I always had a soft spot for creative endeavors. Enjoyed drawing as a kid, was a decently good piano player, gifted according to my instructor, was on the royal conservatory track and could have probably been pro by now had I not dropped it in my early teens. I want to draw, play piano, write fiction, SOMETHING besides be a code monkey but every time I think I'll start it for real this time I just stop and go back to playing video games and ordering fast food. The worst part? I have everything I need. I have a $3000 top of the line digital piano, every time I play it I'm hit with how far I've regressed due to my long hiatus and just give up in shame and anger. I have a drawing tablet and CSP, I have sketchbooks, pens, pencils and yet I know I will never be motivated to do anything fulfilling with art. When I graduate and move on to the workforce I will have even less time to improve at these creative things. It's over. I'll be forever a mindless codemonkey all because in my early teens I decided to give up and be a useless fat gamer weeb. I'm probably depressed and should seek help but that's another thing that I just can't be bothered to do.

I apologize for this rant not being 100% art related but I really just want someone to read it, even if all the replies are just telling me to kms that's fine.

[Anonymous No.3864321]

>>3864234
imo I think it's nice to push through your course and keep art as a hobby. Stem jobs are pretty stable compared to art and eventually you'll find time drawing in your free time if you really want to continue your hobby. If I turned my passion/hobby into a 9-5 job, I'll probably burn in only a few years after I graduate.

[Anonymous No.3864344]

How do I stop being so cynical and judgmental as an artist? Has this ever happened to anyone else?
>be young amateur artist
>look up to older more popular artist
>watch their art gradually deteriorate over the years
>not even appealing in a stylized abstract way, every aspect is just fucked
>feel bad for thinking that way because their art’s been posted on cringe blogs before
>go back to feeling conflicted after they publicly comment on your post with their weird fetishy fat oc
>look at their older art for comfort
>realize it’s not even that good and they weren’t even that popular either, you just had different standards at the time
I still follow them because of nostalgia and I promised myself I’d never become the type of artist who gets popular and drops their less popular artist friends(though we’ve only properly interacted one time) but fuck, we barely have anything in common anymore.

[Anonymous No.3864346]

>>3864014
Normalfags would think it's tracing/cheating when every time reference is brought up by artists they heavily encourage it.

I'm afraid of reaching a point where I get bored of illustrating. I see patreon artists who shill out for the hottest new fictional babes and see a never-changing stilted flow of repetition. The way things are now, I have so many ideas to toy with with and explore and wonder if it will last without alienating myself from my own style.

[Anonymous No.3864387]

>>3864234
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WHY DID I NOT GET A DEGREE IN CS. I've seen so many people who take CS and hate it, do they not teach you anything at all? There's crazy shit you can do, especially with graphics.

[Anonymous No.3864398]

At this point I just get home from work/school and draw till around 3am.
I don’t even know why I started, I wanted to do Concept Art or animation but neither seem worth it anymore.

[Anonymous No.3864401]

>>3864321
Thanks for the small reassurance
>>3864387
Full 4 year degrees at universities teach a lot of theory along with some general programming knowledge. For example, I learned object oriented principles and software design principles along with a lot of computational theory and some mathematics. Things like algorithm design, advanced logic and discrete math (basically a lot of proofs). Other courses include machine level programming in both binary and assembly, as well as C. We could take electives in whatever we want. I took things that seemed cool like big data systems and analysis, natural language processing, there was even a course on programming for video games.

The result was a lot of base level and theoretical knowhow, but almost no practical experience. I can easily learn any programming language or concept because of the broad background I have, but employers want people who KNOW the things they want, not someone who can easily learn it most of the time. I did an internship at a local software company and learned more about actual industry work than I ever did in my 5 years at university.

[Anonymous No.3864402]

>>3856163
I constantly drink alcohol and smoke herb then I don't feel like drawing but if I do happen to open up SAI I can see problems really easily and fix them or draw something dynamic

[Anonymous No.3864405]

>>3864401
I'm envious as fuck. Having a course that walks you through important parts sounds like an amazing boon. It's hard as fuck to find proper resources on the internet that lead somewhere comprehensive. As for not having practical experience, you could start a project that you're interested in, no?

[Anonymous No.3864409]

>>3864405
I actually left out a lot of stuff by mistake in that description, like basic hardware knowledge (how the physical hardware in a computer works down to the circuitry involved), networking, database design, web design etc......

The reason I grew to dislike it is that it's not something I like doing outside of work. Only problem is, tech is a field that you pretty much need to make into a hobby if you are wanting to get any big name work. You need to WANT to keep learning in your spare time. The industry is constantly changing as new techniques, languages, APIs, etc are released and adopted. Example: I learned ruby a few years ago. No one uses ruby now, they use some other better library for web dev. You just have to keep up all the time. And if you read my first post, I lack the motivation to do anything except play video games. I don't want to program in my spare time, I want to become creative.

[Anonymous No.3864410]

>>3863968
>Finlay
Naw

[Anonymous No.3864412]

>>3864409
>I actually left out a lot of stuff by mistake in that description, like basic hardware knowledge (how the physical hardware in a computer works down to the circuitry involved), networking, database design, web design etc......
Now you've made me even more envious. And yeah, I suppose you need to have the motivation and interest in things in order to enjoy and have healthy improvements. Good luck if you're gonna pursue art instead. You don't really need a any credential other than portfolio for art, so that's good.

[Anonymous No.3864417]

>>3864387
The pay is really good but it gets stressful at times.

[Anonymous No.3864423]

>>3864412
I don't know if I even want to make art a full time job or anything, I guess I'm just kind of lamenting that any significant time outside work I would have to improve will now have to be devoted to my job instead.

It does make me feel a little better that someone is interested in my field. Might turn into the jolt I need to work on my own tech portfolio. Thanks anon.

[Anonymous No.3864434]

>>3864417
Happens in concept art too, as far as I know. For example, Krenz mentioned that he was stuck on the composition stage for a bit over a couple of days. But yeah, it just depends on how much you like your trade I guess.
>>3864423
Sounds about right. If you are going to do it anyway though, I'd suggest exploring things like gamedev and graphics since you like playing video games. Here's hoping that you find something fun to do with CS/art.

[Anonymous No.3864588]

I don't have a specific way of drawing so everything looks different from the last thing I drew.

[Anonymous No.3864628]

>>3864398
What even happened to the Concept Art industry? I remember self trained artists striking it big by reading online forums.

[Anonymous No.3864634]

>>3864628
It became oversaturated. I also suspect photobashing and other ”cheats” killed the romance/charm it used to have

[Anonymous No.3864642]

>>3864634
Damn. What a shame.

[Anonymous No.3864699]

>>3861390
weebart is influenced by thge golden age of iillustration

[Anonymous No.3864707]

It's back. That feeling of how much of a failure I've become, and how I should just give up and die. Nothing will get better no matter how much work I put in. Everything feels wrong. A deep empty pit feeling in my chest. Why did I believe them when they said it gets better? How do I make it stop?

[Anonymous No.3864713]

>>3861706
>surround yourself with things you like
u know how ufkcing hard that is

[Anonymous No.3864715]

>>3864707
Believe.

[Anonymous No.3864716]

>>3861706
Why are we so obsessed with hatred? Why do we want to hate instead of be happy?

[Anonymous No.3864746]

I took some commissions, got paid decently, but then my life turned into a huge mess, a lot of bad shit happened and I lost track of time, stopped drawing for almost 1,5 years. During that period I didn't realize that It's only getting worse, instead I thought I can fix stuff fast and get back quickly, so I went off the radar for a while, hoping one day soon I'll just pop up and be like "sorry, i was super duper busy, here's your amazing pics".
Apparently, I didn't notice that "a while" lasted for an eternity, and I didn't talk to people or been active on social media, and now I'm terrified thinking that I let so many people down. What do they think, what will they say, what should I do, what if I already destroyed my reputation, what did they tell their friends, will they understand, etc etc, thoughts like that are haunting me every second of my life, creating some sort of a psychological barrier while I'm trying to get back to drawing.
On a bright side, I think I somehow got better at art during that time, just by observing/reading stuff, so I hope when I'm finally done with the commissions, I'll also be able to draw some nice portraits gifts or sketches for my customers and they'll be like "well at least we got something out of it, let's not be hard on that dude".
but there's still a chance ill end up dying in a dumpster soon tho, so i dunno

[Anonymous No.3864969]

2 bags of charcoal on 2 frying pans. Sleeping pills. 2 weeks from now. It still feels so surreal. art is the only thing keeping me happy. if there is an afterlife, I want it to be in the wired

[Anonymous No.3864990]

Will drawing on my (non-screen) tablet ever feel as natural as drawing on paper?

I've been doing this for almost a decade now

[Anonymous No.3864991]

>>3864746
Refund them, apologise and move on with your art

[Anonymous No.3865025]

>>3864990
Not for me. Drawing on my table feels slippery but got used to it

[Anonymous No.3865056]

I recent dedicated myself toward art because a natural disaster left me out in the middle of nowhere with no job and a local market that's now completely oversaturated with people who were also displaced by this bullshit.

Despite this, I made a lot of progress due to the sheer amount of down time and got to a point where I would consider myself 'above average'. All the while I started to put myself out there to see if I can make some dosh to continue to afford basic housing.

4 months in and I've only gotten 3-4 commissions, while mutuals who are not as experienced are having trouble juggling their workload while being in a much safer place than I am finance-wise. To the point where I constantly see people begging to throw money at them on the various discord servers we frequent.

I try to be happy for them, but I'm having trouble. I try to push down the jealousy and focus on pushing forward but the sheer amount of time I go unnoticed despite putting out decent work, interacting regularly with others, and networking leaves me both pissed off and terrified that I'll be homeless in a few months as housing aid runs out.

I'm scared and it fucking sucks.

[Anonymous No.3865057]

>>3865056
you did this to yourself.

[Anonymous No.3865063]

>>3865057
okay

[Anonymous No.3865087]

>>3865056
This probably isn't what you want to hear, but put your art on the backburner and look for an entry level job. I know "get a job" Isn't exactly the easiest thing to do but food services usually aren't particularly fussy with who they hire. Having a stable income will take a burden off of your shoulders. It might even improve your art because you're no longer stressing over your next commission and you're not stuck in that constant mode of fault finding. t.someone who was in your position

[Anonymous No.3865196]

>>3865056
Get a stable job. Stop pursuing art

[Anonymous No.3865293]

>>3864634
So just like Computer Science huh

[Anonymous No.3865297]

>be drawing at 3 am
>suddenly get an idea in my head, of someone finding out the shit I draw, and saying “anon, you’re 25 and still drawing this childish anime shit”?

[Anonymous No.3865304]

>>3864969
It wont work. You'll only make a mess.

[Anonymous No.3865308]

>>3864715
In what?

[Anonymous No.3865584]

>>3864969
Look up helium masks. Only guaranteed painless death. Make mask, buy balloon helium at Walmart, done.

[Anonymous No.3865751]

I been struggling with a crisis that I had the last couples days, wich is the idea of doing commisions, the thing is, that I don't have a clue if its going to work, because I don't have a lot of followers and I'm really ignorant in the topic. its been anoying, since my family is pushing me to get a job, (that I had couple of months ago, now I am unemployed), and I really want to, but here in my country is fucking painfull to get one, nothing helps that I have some projects, and the idea of being unemployed and not fomerly going in a carrer is getting me to put fingers on my by other people that I know. I'm really scared, constant ideas of an hero myself are coming more and more often.

[Anonymous No.3865788]

god im a hack

[Anonymous No.3865794]

>>3856163
I have so many great ideas and designs and stories I want to put on to paper and share with people, but I'm such a /beg/ that trying to get to the level where I actually can draw what is in my mind feels impossible.
Do I just grind? Do I just shitpost?

[Anonymous No.3865809]

>>3865794
Make it
Right now
If it is a good enough idea you can refine it and make it better later. You are never going to get where you want if you just hold all your "good" ideas waiting to get there.

[Anonymous No.3865943]

>>3864707
I had this problem too. I kept copying figures like a retard. I wasn't improving at all. I sat and I was sad as fuck, thinking that I won't improve and should give up. Then I realized that it was just me that was being close minded while thinking that I was doing what I should be doing, while I was actually taking shortcuts. I literally had a thought-out list that I had to follow. But I kept looking elsewhere for a long time. Then I just stopped, and started practicing my list, instead of doing shotgun. It's weird as fuck, since I had a fucking list to go through. I guess I was just too lazy. I'm having some progress now that I'm following the list. Maybe it's the same with you.

[Anonymous No.3865964]

>>3865943
So wait, how did you get better at figures then? I also keep just copying them.

[Anonymous No.3865974]

>>3865964
I'm not good at figures, I only became better than before. Basically, learning anatomy. It was in my list 2 git good, but too many muscles for my lazy ass, so I kept being ignorant. Once I get familiar with muscles, I'm planning to find them on figures and applying them on my own invented figures. Then I'm moving to drapery. One thing I'm going to keep in mind is "just do it".

[Anonymous No.3866073]

>>3865943
>>3865974
you can make it, ganbare

[Anonymous No.3866723]

Sometimes I post an image and I realize I made some kind of mistake, this time I posted a thing and it looked fine on the phone when I took the photo and posted it via the Twitter app, but when I saw it on the computer the image was extremely dark.
So I quickly take down the post, and that specific post with shit quality image / some crucial mistake in the drawing always gets a retweet right as I delete it. Always.

[Anonymous No.3867006]

I don't get why /ic/ sucks so fucking bad at drawing but spews advice like there's no tomorrow can't you guys just admit YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUCK YOU'RE DOING

[Anonymous No.3867011]

>>3867006
Where do you think the advice came from? Also, a normal guy can tell if the food is too salty/sugary/whatever. Just look at the fucking criticism, check if it's valid, if it is, then take it, otherwise don't give a shit or shitpost or something.

[Anonymous No.3867120]

>>3867006
You don't have to be a master chef to tell that the food is bad

[Anonymous No.3867150]

>>3858683
the woman on the left looks alot like someone from a milf porn i remember watching a while back
i like your drawings