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How do I become a workhorse like cutesexyrobutts? How to increase discipline?

>> No.3856078

>>3856069
stop thinking about when you'll draw and just draw

>> No.3856173

If you do something every day eventually it takes no effort, no energy, no matter how much attention you actually gave it. Time disappears and your project is done, and you go walk outside, and you stretch out so you don't actually fucking die.

Then you go back in and do it again until your head hits the goddamn keyboard.

>> No.3856199

>>3856069
Why like cutesexyrobutts?

>> No.3856206

>>3856199
Not op, but is his work considered 'bad'? I personally don't see anything wrong with it, but maybe I'm missing something.

>> No.3856226

>>3856199
he churns out a pic like in the OP every day or other day

>> No.3856276

>>3856069
what is that brush hes using?
SAI marker?

>> No.3856301

Unironically start smoking/vaping while working

>> No.3856319

>>3856078
this literally just put a face down then give it personality

>> No.3856397

>>3856069
stop trying to be like someone else, and be yourself!

>> No.3856400

>>3856226
>>3856206
thats probably why the thumb is on the wrong side.

>> No.3856403

>>3856400
made me look. ebin joak

>> No.3856405

>>3856173
/thread

>> No.3856457

>>3856069
This may not apply to you, or actually most people, but here's my story. I have noticed that it's much easier for me to follow tasks if I write them down beforehand. It makes them more solid in my eyes. Where previously I could allow myself some lax and skip for something totally random, now if I just sit down and write schedule on sunday for entire week ahead(including necesseties), I have actual meaningful path to stay on.

>> No.3856582

>>3856069
I admire his sheer quantity but it actually puts me off because I don't want my stuff to look like his. The blending is so fucking weird, and that's what my shit starts to look like whenever I "stop thinking and just draw bro"

>> No.3856590

>>3856069
Everything he does is fanart, it's a mindless routine.

>> No.3856887

>>3856590
lmao. dear anon, please post your work. I would especially love to see one of your mindless routine artworks.

>> No.3856932

I'm a 30something with ADD but a reasonable art career so here's what I've developed over the years:

>Routine
Even if it's just a simple as 'draw on tues evenings' or as complex as those crazy NEET study schedules, routine helps anyone. It's one thing if you have a deadline and stay up all night 'in the zone', but don't make a habit irregular sleeping hours, it just takes from your next day.
This doesn't just extend to drawing as having a regular sleep, eat and exercise pattern will boost overall mood and learning ability, as does having a 'work area' and getting dressed. They say 2 weeks builds a routine.
This is my biggest issue atm because I fell into working irregular hours so I can't build a routine, it's so noticeable I'm changing jobs.
>Accountability
Having deadline and peers that you can talk to. Set deadlines for yourself on to-do type apps (Habitica is gamified and cute) and goals with attainable stages.
>Evaluate
Do you enjoy the things you spend your time on, are they worth your time? Be aware of what you realistically want to achieve and eliminate time wasting habits if they get in your way (StayFocusd can cut down useless online browsing).
>Be nice
If you just aren't a savant then constantly berating yourself isn't going to fix it. It's understood one size does NOT fit all when it comes to academic learning, addiction recovery etc so it's insane to expect drawing to be different. Don't be a dick to yourself, don't mollycoddle yourself but instead treat yourself like you would your best friend; acknowledge your achievements and cheer yourself on where you can but stay a firm realist about what needs to be changed for the better.

The best advice I ever had was from an ADHD message board but seems applicable to all, someone said the key is just doing the 'preparation'. E.g. open the word document for that essay you need to start, or put the pens and paper on the table, or open the drawing file in front of you. Once it's in front of you, you'll do it.

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3856979

I would also recommend an app called "Headspace". It's a very nice and cheap app for guided meditation with a lot of courses on focus. Discipline comes quite easily if you manage to befriend your mind.
I always disregarded meditation thinking it aimed to teach people to stop giving a shit about anything, but turns out it's just a technique that helps you to be more productive and less stressful in everyday life.

>> No.3856984

>>3856932
blessed post

>> No.3857005

>>3856932
Routine definitely helps, even better if you have specific time set aside.

Schedules will help you more than any "productivity hack", time blocking a close second.

>> No.3857111

>>3856979
meditation is a meta-skill

>> No.3857140
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3857140

>>3856403
its not a joke? the thumb should be pointing inward

>> No.3857165

>>3857140
The thumb IS pointing inward. It's a bit hard to read, but it's not drawn as you think it has been drawn.
Stop reaching this much, crabs.

>> No.3857166

>>3857140
If it weren't for the tip of the finger going behind other fingers you couldn't tell if it's pointing inwards or outwards

>> No.3857177 [DELETED] 

>tfw already make around 25k
>tfw if I make more my health insurance explodes
>tfw if I start earning more my surplus net income is maybe 20-30% of the surplus gross
>tfw literally prevented from success by my socialist kike government

Can you ever make it if you refuse to enslave yourself by your own success? I'd much rather keep living a chill life and not working so much. If you ever break into the 'respectable' earning brackets in my country you literally cannot go back to comfymode as you're now required to pay fucktons in health insurance and all kinds of other jewish cartel scams.

tfw yay europe. fucking kikes.

>> No.3857194 [DELETED] 

>>3857177
Join ancapistan and tell those Jews that taxation is literally theft.

Once robot slaves exist, you can move back if the (((EU))) ultimately dissolves.

>> No.3857197 [DELETED] 

>>3857177
Just make a lot more money then.

>> No.3857209 [DELETED] 

>>3857194

if only ancapistan existed. it would be the most successful and prosperous country in the world and thus democratised, diversified and bombed into oblivion faster than you can say barmitzva.

>>3857197

what for? i see no point in putting myself in the position of having to work 9-12 hours a day 6 days a week as a freelance artist if the only one who benefits is my plutocrat owner overlords. i have fucktons of free time right now, i make my 25k very very comfortably. if i could make 60k working as much as i do now, i'd definitely go for it but otherwise no thanks.

it's odd to me how 'normal' it's become that the government keeps people poor and that 60% of ones earnings is immediately syphoned away by the dreidel brothers. and people still look down on you if you don't participate in the materialist consumer culture rat race that is subtly enforced in order to coerce people to keep their hamsterwheel spinning. i think as a freelancer you're just much more in tune with where money actually comes from (labour and effort) than officedrones who just look at their salary go from 6k to 2.5k and think 'that's just how it is!' and see their workday as just spending 8 hours at the office without doing much or being close to the actual product delivered by their jew-corp.

yeah i've been on pol too. but i'm too old to keep ignoring the realities of this world.

>> No.3857215 [DELETED] 

>>3857177
>3857177 #
What does any of this have to do with the thread? Fuck off fag.

>> No.3857219 [DELETED] 

>>3857209
Complains about effects of late stage capitalism, thinks socialism is to blame

Moron.

>> No.3857245

>>3857219

of course it is. are you retarded?

>> No.3857256

>>3857245
lol you'll forever be the kind of looser who keeps on making everybody loose with him.
Enjoy living as a bootlicking dumdum with no understanding of basic economic theory or its application beyond youtube videos...

You're still a moron.

>> No.3857289

>>3857177
then just work less so that you don't go over the amount you are cool with and enjoy.
you don't need to be a genius to figure that out anon.

>> No.3857304

>>3857256
what kind of imbecile are you? i could just copy paste exactly what you've written and the conversation would have gone further exactly zero steps and my post would be no less nonsensical than yours. you've addressed nothing, you've made no points worth noting, you've done absolutely nothing but vomit your low iq drivel on a board attacking someone who's opinion you disagree with because it makes you feel like less of a sad, manlet virgin faggot kindergarten dropout. nothing but accusations and projections. fucking syphillic animal. i hope you die from your aids. i've come to hate your kind more than you could ever possibly imagine. human garbage is what you are. no, animal garbage actually.

>>3857289
oh but that's what i'm doing. i'm very happy in my shoes and enjoy the low stress life a lot. so much time for projects and hobbies. that's why it baffles me when people somehow act like that's an undesireable spot to be in, and the normie wagecel life is somehow better. crazy world.

>> No.3857331

>>3857304
>oh but that's what i'm doing.
I see, then you just wanted to brag about your being unable to be successful. Okay.

>> No.3857354

>>3857304
boohoo bitch :)

>> No.3857359
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3857359

>>3856069
By not being a wagecuck working from 8-5 and getting your soul sucked out by rude customers and a Jew boss pushing you to squeeze every shekel out of cheapfucks and nickle and dime everyone all day.

>> No.3857362

>>3857304
Stop derailing this thread, fuck off piece of shit.

>> No.3857391

>>3857165
>single random anon nitpicks a popular artist's drawing
>"heh so many crabs today"
the absolute state of this board

>> No.3857420

>>3857391
Oh look, another crab. Thanks for proving my point.

>> No.3857614

>>3857391
>unironicallly defending nit picking
The absolute state of you right now

>> No.3857618

>>3857614
I wouldnt call drawing a hand backwards "nit picking"

>> No.3857952

>>3857618
except that hand is not drawn backwards.
the problem here is not the artist nor that hand. the problem here are crabs like you.

>> No.3857976

>>3856206
>>Not op, but is his work considered 'bad'?
"Bad" is subjective what is undenoable that CSR is capable of throwing out these images literally every day. That is certainly respectable.

>> No.3858224

>>3856206
He's not bad.
Art is subjective.
Also remember hes better then 97% of /ic/

>> No.3858245

>>3856078
>>3856173
Can you guys just work for hours on command? I can't do this and I feel retarded. I started drawing every day but I can very rarely draw for more than 2 hours.

>>3856206
Honestly his work is rough but nice. What I find weird is how he's so damn popular. He doesn't seem anything more special than many other porn artists
Maybe posting nearly every day IS very effective for marketing yourself

>>3856979
I should try this.

>> No.3858437
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3858437

>>3858245
Draw for an hour, take 15 min break, draw for an hour, repeat. Lunch and dinner take a 30m break, you could watch an episode of something or goof off while eating. Divide hour into multiple half-hour activities when necessary, such as 30 min rendering shapes, 30m gesture, take break then move onto figure drawing etc. --- You can use stuff you did in one exercise for another, for example I did a page full of circles as warmup and later used them to construct skulls with.

>> No.3858885

>>3856069
Give no fucks and stop being a perfectionist

>> No.3858887

>>3858245
>Maybe posting nearly every day IS very effective for marketing yourself
>Maybe

For fucks sake STOP BEING LAZY

>> No.3859016

>>3858245
>Can you guys just work for hours on command? I can't do this and I feel retarded. I started drawing every day but I can very rarely draw for more than 2 hours.
Have you ever had a fucking job?
You literally have to work for 8 hours with just a few breaks in between.
It's the same fucking thing when you are a professional illustrator.

>> No.3859068

>>3856069
>How do I become a workhorse like cutesexyrobutts?
By becoming a workhorse like cutesexyrobutts.
>How to increase discipline?
By increasing discipline.

>> No.3859319

>>3859016
At a job you have someone breathing down your neck and really bad consequences if you don't do your job. For drawing there is nothing like that.

>> No.3859323

>>3859319
Join DAD and petition for the tribunal

>> No.3859328

>>3859323
I joined DAD multiple times and always dropped it anyways. Don't see a reason to try again.

>> No.3859356

>>3856206
Render good, anatomy bad
Like every single render that gets popular. All Normalfags don't care, shiny graphics is all they care about.

>> No.3859363

>>3859356
mass appeal is important for popularity, shocking

>> No.3859394
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3859394

>>3859016
>Have you ever had a fucking job?
Kinda but it wasn't 8 hours and it wasn't manual labor.
Even when I had to just work my mind keeps daydreaming and I can sort of autopilot some tasks but I can't actually focus on the task for multiple hours straight, that seems impossible. The only things I can do that with are just no brainers like watching anime or vidya. For anything else I've ever done like school homework and study, drawing etc. I can maybe keep focus for a few mins and rarely more than that. Then I start meandering again
An anon said to me to check for ADHD, I don't know

>>3859319
This is also true, I certainly feel pressured to work when I know someone needs my work to be done in a time limit and results are expected of me but there's no way I can reproduce that with drawing by myself

>>3858887
It really isn't that easy dude. Maybe I have a problem but I tried many many times to be more productive. It's kinda helped slightly for drawing but it still feels like a slog

>> No.3859446

>>3859319
If you are an adult and you don't have the luxury to just not do it.
If you are scribbling in your free time, then that's not a job and it has nothing to do with what I was talking about.

>>3859394
>ADHD symptoms all over the place
Get help imo.
>I certainly feel pressured to work when I know someone needs my work to be done
When you are a professional illustrator (or when you do any freelance job or run your own business) YOU need your work to be done.
Again, if you draw for a hobby and you don't live off it, then there's no need to draw for so many hours on end. Just freaking enjoy drawing and stop whining.

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3859485

>>3856069
Buy tons of sketchbooks, draw all the time. It's that simple.

>> No.3860535

>>3859356
Then why does anyone bother with anatomy?

>> No.3860538

>>3859356
His anatomy is bad? It looks pretty passable to me. No six fingers like Sakimichan.

>> No.3860541

>>3860535
Not everyone do art to mindlessly appeal to masses for money. Shocking, I know.
If you just want social media success, there are far more efficient ways to whore yourselves

>> No.3860559

>>3859485
Do you think she can zip her sweater, or is it impossible?

>> No.3860746

>>3860538
>Boiling down good anatomy to drawing a correct number of fingers.
what a brainlet

>> No.3860859

>>3856199
He's productive, he's good, he's getting even better.

>> No.3861957

>>3860541
Ok snowflake.

>> No.3862314

>>3859485
hnnngggg

>> No.3862331

>>3860559
>>3862314
Dickbrains spotted.

>> No.3862409

>>3862331
t. Low T

>> No.3862456

>>3862409
another dickbrain spotted.

>> No.3863370

>>3860538
>artist who uploads consistently for years miscounts number of fingers
wow they must not know their anatomy huh, back to loomis you go

>> No.3864607

>>3856069
>cutesexyrobutts
What a weird fucking username.

>> No.3864815

>>3864607
>what are memes

>> No.3864823

>>3856301
why the fuck is this post here. I've literally become more productive from picking up gay ass vaping

>> No.3864828

>>3864607
This. I am extremely disappointed that he doesn't exclusively draw robots with nice asses.

>> No.3866837

>>3856069
>How do I become a workhorse like cutesexyrobutts? How to increase discipline?

-draw fast
-quit perfectionism
-stop comparing yourself to others

>> No.3866851

>>3857420
>anyone who disagrees with me is a crab
>>3857614
yes I was 100% defending him, esl-kun

>> No.3866884

>>3866837
>draw fast
draw fast with purpose
just drawing fast so you can "finish and move on" makes your art shit

>> No.3867023

>>3860535
because when you know enough anatomy you become far better than most of the non anatofags and also know their tricks of shininess which will make it even better to them.

>> No.3869450

>>3864815
>what are decent usernames

>> No.3869508

>>3869450
>what are recognizable usernames
he makes almost 5k per month. he started his patreon 3 months ago.
do you really need any more proof than that that his username is completely okay, retard?

>> No.3869535

>What little I know I learned starting from age 27, completely incidentally, following youtube tutorials
Ok, he just isn't human.

>> No.3869641

>>3869535
>learning and studying is inhuman
You're never gonna make it with that attitude.

>> No.3869660

>>3869641
The other way around, my attitude is because I didn't make it.

>> No.3869664

>>3869508

It's good. Easy to remember. Also makes the artist come across as someone who doesn't take himself too seriously

>> No.3869666

>>3869660
I was also in my early 20's once.

>> No.3869674

>>3869666
I'm 29

>> No.3869675

>>3869664
exactly

>> No.3869683

>>3869674
So clearly your life is now over. There's no possible way you'll make it at this point. Better to just pack it all up, then.

>> No.3872145

>>3856069
Ritalin

>> No.3873383

>>3859323
Newfag here. What did you mean by tribunal?

>> No.3873437

>>3869535
reminds me of that wagecuck character from bakuman who picks up a manga in the tramway and goes
>yep I will do this
absolutely disgusting, those talented bastards will never know the struggle of brainlets

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3873449

>>3873383
It's a part of the site where people that submit submissions that breaks the rules (less than 30 minutes, not art, reuploading old/other people's work) get tried and punished.

>> No.3873458

>>3856078
>Stop trying to hit me and hit me

>> No.3873468

>>3856069
Damn he really does just churn stuff out almost every day. Inspiring desu though I don't want to do porn or even people.I wonder if I can make a workflow like this and make a finished environment or scene every other day.

>>3869535
where does he say this?

>>3873437
I don't think that guy was gud though right, not technically at least. He just had a really fresh take on things from knowing nothing about manga so he didn't follow tired old tropes and made some great gag stuff.

>> No.3874449

>>3862331
gg @ your shit genetics

>> No.3874880

>>3869535
If he's really 27 he's not that ridiculously good of an artist, respectable sure but within normal reason.

>> No.3875090

>>3856301
This, unfortunately.

>> No.3875091

>>3856932
Seconded

>> No.3875308

>>3859319
If drawing is your source of income you don't get to eat if you don't draw.

>> No.3875382

>>3872145
Isn’t modafinil better?

>> No.3875629

>>3874449
aaaand another dickbrain just joined the party

>> No.3875643

>>3875629
You should consider getting a designer pussy. It would improve your personality a lot. your smell too.

>> No.3875647

>>3875643
i have the feeling it's a good thing I don't know what that is.

>> No.3875666

>>3875382
Nah, modafinil is like the best cup of coffee you’ve ever had. Ritalin is like a laser

>> No.3875766

>>3856069
Read "The Willpower Instinct" before that book, I couldn't bring myself to do anything or stay on task but since reading it along with some notes, I've found the spark that I needed to remind myself that I do have discipline and the ability to stay on task. Sometimes, that's all you need — to be reminded that you are capable of doing something. That's the big thing reading the book accomplished for me.

>> No.3876789

>>3858437
This nigga knows

>> No.3879100

>>3856069
How fast is his output anyway?

>> No.3879114

>>3875766
>Sometimes, that's all you need — to be reminded that you are capable of doing something
Makes so much sense

>> No.3879149

>>3879100

>mfw he is actually just posting from a huge back catalogue of work done over the span of five years as a NEET

>> No.3879342

>>3875766
I'll be looking for this at the bookstore this weekend, anon. Ive gotten better at waking up early and doing my studies, but actually doing them proves harder as time goes on, even if it's for something like 2 hours.

Also will be good for my fighting game training.

>> No.3879357

>>3859068
Kill yourself

>> No.3879416

>>3879100
He posts shit like the OP's pic every day or every other day.

>> No.3879484

>>3879342
libgen

>> No.3880202

>>3856069
Fasting. Drink only water and multivitamins

>> No.3880221

>>3879416
Lmao. OPic looks mediocre at best and it is certainly way above average as far as quality of his own work goes. He actually bothered to stop for a moment and fix that down syndrome face he always does. Also it's a bust thing without any resemblance of a pose so you don't see his drawthread-tier anatomy.

There is no miracle as to why he shits this trash out so frequently. He just has no resemblance of internal quality control and spends 3 hours TOP at each of those pieces. And it really shows.

>> No.3880253

>>3880221
>spends 3 hours TOP at each of those pieces
And that's why he's making it, while you are doing studies in your basement.
Grats.

>> No.3880271

>>3880253
Hey. At least, between two faggots who aren't making it here, I am not the one defending an objectively shit artist that panders to the lowest common denominator even as far as porn goes.

>> No.3880276

>>3880221
I don't know where that little diatribe came from, but I wasn't even defending the guy.

>> No.3880286

>>3880276
It was definitely intended to be addressed to some other post but I can't be assed to re-read this thread and find which one.

>> No.3880310

>>3880221
I don't know where that little diatribe came from, but I wasn't even defending the guy.

>> No.3880519

>>3859356
aesthetically pleasing anatomy > accurate anatomy

>> No.3880540

>>3880271
You are just a salty crab, while I'm not. That's the only important difference here.

>> No.3881293

>>3880271
That's the internal problem with being a perfectionist. Studying helps but it'll distract you in the long run. Cutesexyrobots probably has enough self awareness to know he's not the best. Is work is littered with anatomical inaccuracies and his painting skills are average. However he must not give a shit because he keeps churning shit, learning along the way. That's really the only way to improve at a steady pace. You will spend years rendering perfect tits but forget to actually finish the entire piece caught up that it's masterpiece. So just draw shit til you get better and study often but don't make it your life.

>> No.3881577

>>3881293
GOSPEL
This anon gets it.
>>3880221
>>3880271
This anon doesn't get it.

>> No.3882287

>>3856199
>Why like cutesexyrobutts?
- God tier work ethic
- Non-perfectionist
- Finish things
- Started in his later in life has yet has more notoriety than the 'naturally talented' and those whose been at it for more than a decade

>> No.3882546

>>3856069
>painting a full piece every single day no matter what. trying hard lighting and challenges with each one

Jees I wonder how he gets so good so fast. I bet he takes art roids.

>> No.3882659

>unironically liking the artist that will burn themselves out in like 10 years max over the slow burner that masters their craft and keeps going for 4 to 5 times as long.
ITT: Dickbrains. enjoy your FOTM artist that will likely fall for the pedo/furry/edgy meme and be forgotten by the next FOTM artist. Happens every time.

>> No.3882746

>>3882659
What a crab lol.

>> No.3882756

>>3869674
You need 3-5 years to build almost any skill to professional level unless you are a complete retard. That's assuming you do it on the side and don't dedicate all your time to it.

>> No.3883406

>>3856069
stop idolizing artists!

>> No.3883686

>>3882659
>that will burn themselves out in like 10 years max
how do you know this?

>> No.3884757

>>3883686
Name one teenaged prodigy that still draws in their late 20s/30s? I'll wait.

>> No.3885482

>>3884757
sakimi

>> No.3886499

>>3856069
>How do I become a workhorse like cutesexyrobutts? How to increase discipline?

learn to render
stop giving a fuck
finish art daily

>> No.3886526

>>3881293
This post's making me rethink my habits. Probably should draw until getting stuck and then study the thing I have trouble with. Need to make more finished pieces, time is precious

>> No.3886621

>>3886499
Yeah, just finish thinks and move on. Don't think about it too much, just do it. Doesn't mean you shouldn't study and shit, but who cares if things aren't perfect.

>> No.3887794

>>3856069
livestream