How long until I'm this good?

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Anonymous Sun Mar 17 07:46:55 2019 No.3854142 [Reply] [Original]

How long until I'm this good?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 17 07:47:26 2019 No.3854143 >>3854142 pyw

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 17 07:48:26 2019 No.3854144 >>3854142 Starting from scratch? ~4 years of daily practice.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 17 07:49:27 2019 No.3854145 also, how many years has teal been drawing for? subtract the time you've been drawing for from that

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 17 07:50:24 2019 No.3854147 >>3854143 what?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 17 07:51:28 2019 No.3854148 >>3854145 who's teal?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 17 07:53:44 2019 No.3854149 >>3854142 How exactly DO you get this good? What did teal use to study with? Nobody is asking these important questions.

Anonymous Sun Mar 17 07:58:48 2019 No.3854151

>>3854142
>competent figurative drawing & gesture
1 to 2 years
>good composition, shape & character design
harder to say, you could either develop a sense for it really quickly or take a few years to make work that really stands on it's own
>a unique and appealing style
wish i knew ;_;
>>3854149
where does teal post these days?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 17 08:01:52 2019 No.3854155 >>3854142 learn to animate

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 17 08:01:52 2019 No.3854156 >>3854151 >where does teal post these days? He has his own board on eight chan

Anonymous Sun Mar 17 08:18:41 2019 No.3854172
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>>3854147
I'll do the spoonfeeding. pyw means "Post Your Work" around here anon. Here's a couple more terms for your glossary:
gmi= gonna make it
ngmi= not gonna make it
crab= unskilled, seething anon

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 17 08:20:17 2019 No.3854174 >>3854172 >crab Who came up with this retarded term?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 17 08:23:06 2019 No.3854177 >>3854174 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crab_mentality

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 17 15:38:57 2019 No.3854534 >>3854177 Hello newfriend

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 17 15:40:01 2019 No.3854537 >>3854534 oh shit nigger this was for >>3854174

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 17 15:51:19 2019 No.3854553 >>3854534 the true way to spot newFAGGOTS (read:you) is to see who uses the crab meme, thats PURELY a late 2017 meme spread by posers trying to fit in its shit that pussy bitches use because theyre too soft for pre nu-/ic/

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 17 15:55:37 2019 No.3854556 >>3854174 our lord and savior, crab mullins

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 17 16:06:59 2019 No.3854576 >>3854142 does he do that in one go or is there an underlying sketch?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 17 16:16:34 2019 No.3854591 >>3854553 I'm something of a newfag myself, but I always found the 'crab' meme to be forced and dumb. It almost sounds like a tumblr insult.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 17 16:17:31 2019 No.3854593 >>3854142 3-4 years completing one drawing a week

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 17 16:19:12 2019 No.3854596 >>3854142 source? this is really appealing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 17 16:20:06 2019 No.3854599 >>3854591 in essence it is, it's a shorthand for "Youre mean and your criticism isnt valid because i dont like it" straight tumblr pussification the same way idiots think "projection" is the 200IQ way of saying "no u"

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 17 16:22:29 2019 No.3854601 >>3854599 that's not to say there's no crabs, a lot of shitty artists that don't network like to shit on people they see are less skilled but have more followers

Anonymous Sun Mar 17 16:26:52 2019 No.3854609

>>3854601
of course there are but "crab" is just baby's first /ic/ meme so they walk around like wind-up parrots trying to show that they're hip with the kids

strong overlap between crab memers and people who who wont show their work when called out to post it

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 17 16:32:29 2019 No.3854621 >>3854142 source?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 17 16:37:53 2019 No.3854627 >>3854172 kek this pic is pretty neat

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 17 16:46:56 2019 No.3854639 >>3854172 qt as FUCK

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 17 17:08:46 2019 No.3854684 >>3854156 what's it called? >>3854576 >https://imgur.com/gallery/8eHzD

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 17 17:18:27 2019 No.3854706 >>3854684 /kaatyuun/, beware it's mostly underage NSFW.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 17 18:15:50 2019 No.3854797 >>3854593 Hell no. Drawing requires a lot more dedication than that

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 17 18:52:29 2019 No.3854823 >>3854142 who's the artist?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 17 19:08:05 2019 No.3854836 >>3854142 It's too bad teal has zero sense for appeal. All of his characters look like anatomically correct saggy old women.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 17 19:17:28 2019 No.3854848 >>3854797 Everyone's different but I'd say that's accurate.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 17 19:20:18 2019 No.3854853 >>3854848 One drawing a week is not enough, 2-3 years drawing every day is more likely to get to that level

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 17 19:24:27 2019 No.3854859 >>3854823 According to other people in this very thread, teal

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 17 19:29:51 2019 No.3854866 >>3854853 One finished drawing. You can still sketch a couple hours a week as well

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 17 19:31:44 2019 No.3854871 >>3854866 What would count as a finished drawing? Does that include shading/rendering/backgrounds/etc.?

Anonymous Sun Mar 17 20:44:40 2019 No.3854958 [DELETED]

I notice there’s a lot less hate for Teal these days. It confirms my suspicion that the bullies were largely concept art fags who were jelly that a 2D loli artist had better fundamentals. /ic/ has become a lot less toxic now that we don’t see much concept art on here

Anonymous Sun Mar 17 20:48:42 2019 No.3854964

I notice there’s a lot less hate for Teal these days. It confirms my suspicion that the bullies were largely concept art fags who were jelly that a 2D loli artist had better fundamentals. /ic/ has become less toxic now that we don’t see much concept art on here

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 17 21:00:08 2019 No.3854978 >>3854142 This looks pretty basic, if you practice hard you should be that good in approximately 6 to 12 months.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 17 21:07:05 2019 No.3854985 >>3854978 t. dunning kruger

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 17 21:13:19 2019 No.3854991 >>3854978 Post your work

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 17 21:15:00 2019 No.3854992 >>3854978 >looks pretty basic so does the work of many great artists, but you’ll find that it’s deceptively simple

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 17 21:18:24 2019 No.3854994 >>3854978 I'm drawing a lot in 2,5 years and I'm not even close to that quality. Simple doesn't mean easy.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 17 21:20:47 2019 No.3854995 File: 7 KB, 229x238, 1524927329924.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3854978

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 17 21:25:28 2019 No.3855002 >>3854871 full shading and rendering sure background optional, but in this case its just lineart so you can probably go even faster

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 17 21:34:08 2019 No.3855009 >>3854964 Mercwip suffered and died for this positive development. Bless.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 17 21:35:30 2019 No.3855012 File: 35 KB, 600x600, IMG_3048.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3854964 >implying being anti-loli makes you 'toxic'

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 17 21:37:56 2019 No.3855015 >>3855012 >liking 3dpds Umm sweaty, you need to get your head checked

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 17 21:43:25 2019 No.3855019 Can i post something and can yall tell me if i have a slight chance?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 17 21:46:24 2019 No.3855022 >>3855019 Sure anon.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 17 21:47:04 2019 No.3855023 File: 14 KB, 300x238, 1430280994776.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3855019

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 17 21:48:23 2019 No.3855025 File: 339 KB, 1000x1000, Rimuru.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3855022 Just bought Clip and I'm getting used to some brushes, but this probably the best i can do at the moment.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 17 21:49:44 2019 No.3855028 >>3855025 as long as you keep improving you're doing well how long have you been drawing? the mouth is all fucked up btw

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 17 21:50:14 2019 No.3855029 >>3855025 Around intermediate tier, if you can reach this point then the only thing keeping you from gitting gud is time and effort imo. If you keep pushing yourself I'm sure you'll make it anon!

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 17 21:51:00 2019 No.3855030 >>3855028 I wanna say less than 1 year of serious practice But overall basically all my life.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 17 21:52:08 2019 No.3855031 >>3855030 yeah man you're doing good then, just keep drawing

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 17 21:54:56 2019 No.3855033 >>3855025 >>3855030 Give yourself another five years of "serious" practice and you may be at the level of OP.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 17 21:55:07 2019 No.3855034 >>3855031 I wouldn't say intermediate, i still need to learn better anatomy and coloring Maybe high beginner? >>3855029 Thanks, I'll try my best

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 17 21:59:54 2019 No.3855041 >>3854859 not them but where can I find Teal?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 17 22:07:59 2019 No.3855045 >>3854145 Hes a professional illustrator and like 40 something years old so a pretty long time.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 17 22:15:50 2019 No.3855052 File: 294 KB, 960x800, Npc_zoom_3030087000_91.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3854142 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQR4v36N5cA Everyone's journey is different, it completely is up to you. So go draw, bitch.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 17 22:21:59 2019 No.3855053 >>3855045 >like 40 something years old How do you know?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 17 22:56:48 2019 No.3855075 >>3855053 he was doxxed here once and there is a chance that the goblin that did it is still around to remind everyone about it

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 17 23:09:03 2019 No.3855085 >>3855052 Is the guy who made this video a decent artist? Should I watch the video through, will it help me? I've been really looking for something like this. I've mostly just been drawing boxes for the past 20-30 days or so

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 17 23:14:43 2019 No.3855088 >>3854985 underrated >>3854995 this

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 17 23:15:21 2019 No.3855089 >>3855085 Okay, nevermind, I checked his Twitter and watched a bit further into the video and he's the real deal. I'll give this a watch.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 17 23:27:45 2019 No.3855099 File: 354 KB, 1412x1145, FtCHgQI.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3855085 >>3855089 just drawing boxes? you need to be doing much more than that dude. Loomis is not a meme, get to work dude.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 17 23:56:31 2019 No.3855119 >>3855099 OH BOY, I SURE DO LOVE FUCKING 4CHAN EL OH EL HAHAHDHASFHAHSDFASDF

Anonymous Sun Mar 17 23:58:18 2019 No.3855120

>>3855099
>>3855119
Sorry, I've just been trying to fucking post this god damn image and respond to your god damn post for thirty fucking minutes now. I think image posting is fucked or something. I have been drawing more than just boxes. I could link a folder with everything I've ever drawn for the past 123 days but I feel like that would be getting too personal.

Here is a link however to what I was going to fucking post before EL OH EL 4CHAN

https://i.imgur.com/sOKb2Ic.jpg

REMEMBER TO BUY YOUR 4CHAN PASS, D00D. CAN'T KEEP THE SITE RUNNING WITHOUT THEM OBVIOUSLY LOL

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 18 00:10:41 2019 No.3855127 >>3854142 3 years if you r actually working every day to improve. 5-8 years if you r retard.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 18 01:12:50 2019 No.3855156 >>3855088 upvoted

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 18 02:46:17 2019 No.3855220 >>3855041 Read the thread you lazy sack of shit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 18 08:35:52 2019 No.3855407 >>3855045 wtf

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 18 08:40:39 2019 No.3855412 >>3855045 >40 years old pedo Eww I can imagine what he looks like.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 18 10:08:51 2019 No.3855497 >>3855412 jelly much?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 18 10:58:03 2019 No.3855535 >>3854174 >Who came up with this retarded term? Nice job in calling yourself out. Obtain some social skills and maybe don't use the computer for just one day.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 18 11:14:18 2019 No.3855557 >>3854553 >Being this new

Anonymous Mon Mar 18 14:59:22 2019 No.3855740

>all these people not understanding the crab insult
what?
it's based off an expression, which is based off actual crabs showing the same mentality
it's an easy way to say "you're just trying to drag others down since you're shit yourself" which is pretty common on /ic/ and has been a thing for a while

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 18 15:17:11 2019 No.3855753 >>3855535 Jokes on you. The guy probably kicks ass because he is not spinning his wheels on /ic/ all day long.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 18 16:43:00 2019 No.3855817 File: 405 KB, 2048x1085, 1526995790573.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3854985 >>3854994 >>3854992 Koreans can, why can't you /ic/?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 18 16:47:17 2019 No.3855821 >>3855817 The guy in your pic got a nice improvement but his figure drawing isn't close to OP pic

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 18 16:47:55 2019 No.3855822 >>3855817 wtf...

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 18 16:51:20 2019 No.3855827 >>3855822 yeah man, 12 years for THAT? No thank you

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 18 16:53:05 2019 No.3855829 >>3854599 who gives a fuck what specific terminology people use you fucking autist

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 18 16:53:37 2019 No.3855830 >>3855817 drawing since the age of 1, it's not fair

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 18 19:33:31 2019 No.3856014 >>3855829 >who cares about language Yeah, we should all just go back to caveman speak and use grunting and screaming to communicate.

Anonymous Mon Mar 18 23:52:06 2019 No.3856314
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I really wish I knew how simon is able to achieve such consistent and graphic tone changes. It seems to be a combination of using default Sai brush and mixing to white along with the occasional use of large airbrush.

It's a bit frustrating to study digital work: the kind of technique or brushes used isn't immediately obvious since there is an infinite number of ways to configure a brush. I know he uses Sai, and I got the chance to watch one of his streams recently. It was pretty great, and I got to ask him quite a bit of questions.

I'm reading through How To Render at the moment to fill knowledge gaps I have, but I love looking at his work. Yes, some of his subject matter might make people uncomfortable, but you can't say that he doesn't have masterful control of his edges and shadow shapes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 18 23:56:52 2019 No.3856323 File: 31 KB, 500x500, LET ME IN.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3856314 If he isn't going to post here I wish he'd at least post at /loomis/ on 8gag instead of hiding out in his own board jerking off by himself

Anonymous Tue Mar 19 00:37:53 2019 No.3856362

>>3855817
The difference is the culture. When a korean shows interest in drawing, their parents buy them books on perspective and a drawing tablet so they get a huge head start during critical formative years. In the west when a child shows an interest is drawing, their parents pin their drawings to the fridge and celebrate their mediocre art and they don't improve.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 00:49:52 2019 No.3856370 File: 1.88 MB, 480x270, boomer.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3856362 >Blaming anyone but yourself pathetic

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 07:29:41 2019 No.3856708 >>3856323 it's too late, teal's found his happy place

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 07:33:06 2019 No.3856714 >>3856314 You high nigga? That was probably drawn in greyscale and then had a colored adjustment layer thrown on top of it.

Anonymous Tue Mar 19 09:53:01 2019 No.3856852
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>>3856714
Please re-read my post. I make no mention of color. I'm also well aware he uses colorize layers on some of those pieces that he posts on Twitter when he's finished with them.

what I'm actually trying to understand is how he's able to achieve such a wide variety of hard and soft edges well using what is, from my understanding, a very small set of brushes.

Pic related. He was working on this while I was watching him stream, and while I didn't get to watch him finish it, it's my understanding that he was using Sai, worked in a single layer, and used only the default Sai brush to achieve much of the work.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 10:00:30 2019 No.3856859 >>3856852 Yeah his process is kinda cryptic. It doesn't help that he always hides his layer menu and answers really vaguely when asked about the technique-side of his craft.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 10:08:06 2019 No.3856869 >>3856370 >not taking note of what works and what note to better teach the future generations your kids are ngmi

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 10:11:41 2019 No.3856874 >>3856869 The ai will be doing the art in 30 years, this is the last batch of artists through.

Anonymous Tue Mar 19 10:13:03 2019 No.3856876

>>3856859
Yeah. I'm probably going to be doing some work tonight since I wanted to do some Bargue plates. I'm gonna take the time to experiment a bit and see what I can achieve.

My only thing is that I work in Photoshop, and so I'm wondering how much of his smooth transitions between values are of Sai's ad hoc color mixing for its default brush verses actual brush technique.

I don't really blame him for being cryptic, though. He's worked for years and probably gets question thrown at him all the time. I'd pay for his timelapses if he put them on Gumroad though, that's for sure.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 10:19:09 2019 No.3856883 >>3856874 What sort of hentai will AI make?

Anonymous Tue Mar 19 10:19:13 2019 No.3856884

>>3856876
He definitely takes advantage of SAI's blur/blending features from what I see in his stream. He frequently does that thing where you paint hard-edge first, then blur them using the watercolor brush. You can kinda do it in PS using smudge/mixer, but it won't be as clean and smooth.
He used to have a patreon with timelapses, but they're not really that much better than what he put up on Twitter. You can just record his regular streams.
I'd rather he make more of those old redlines and tutorials.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 10:20:53 2019 No.3856889 >>3856883 01010000111100000101010101011000

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 10:24:00 2019 No.3856893 >>3856883 The final hentai solution

Anonymous Tue Mar 19 10:28:02 2019 No.3856897

>>3856884
>used to have a Patreon
If it doesn't exist anymore, do you happen to have or know of where the old content is? Or if it's still around, could you point to it?
>You can probably just record his streams
This will be, in all likelihood, what I end up doing. I'm not trying to completely reverse engineer his technique, but it would be nice to have more complete understanding.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 14:37:07 2019 No.3857151 >>3855827 i thought those were months not years

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