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>literally drops all social media, youtube channel for a whole year
>nonstop grinding, over 10k drawings, several art books
>still sucks

How to NOT become a Volen CK?

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>> No.3843038

>>3843033
>How to NOT become a Volen CK?
Give up

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The guy needed 4 years to realize learning how to draw is essential in order to become a concept artist, all he did before was photobashing

I mean, what the fuck? Is he retarded?

>> No.3843078

His art looks great to me. Why the hate

>> No.3843081

>>3843078
/ic/ has a shitton of retarded posters.

>> No.3843084

>>3843033
Draw what you like.

>> No.3843091

>>3843081
Well, so does ic

>> No.3843120

>>3843050
kek, are you?

you can get by in the concept art industry nowadays with very shitty drawing skills. look at wootha and shaddy.

actually look at almost any concept artist that does hardsurface stuff, it's all 3D and photobash.

>> No.3843127

>>3843091
???
so does /ic/ what?

>> No.3843129

im sorry. i must be retarded. Cause his artstation looks like he made it.

https://www.artstation.com/volenck
Post work OP.

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>> No.3843131

>>3843033
What exactly is wrong with his art? I don't see any glaring issues.

>> No.3843132

>>3843130
Diogenes was a unit, his justification for masturbating in public was ‘when im hungry, I eat in public’. This is a masters study so not sure why he put it on artstation.

>> No.3843139

>>3843132
because he drew it. i mean what do you want. i dont think a job looking at his art station is going to be "Hurr Durr he did a master study and put it on his portfolio?".

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>>3843139
They want to see the artists vision, creativity and capability for invention, not copies of another (superior) artists work. The original artist already did all the legwork so showing people a study shows them nothing about you or your skill. Compare this study with Volen's actual work and you'll see a very clear disparity in everything from technical proficiency to creativity. If someone hired him based off this study, thinking he could produce work like this on his own, they would be sorely disappointed. Studies are for learning, not showcasing skill. Esp. master studies.

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>>3843139
They want to see the artists vision, creativity and capability for invention, not copies of another (superior) artists work. The original artist already did all the legwork so showing people a study shows them nothing about you or your skill. Compare this study with Volen's actual work and you'll see a very clear disparity in everything from technical proficiency to creativity. If someone hired him based off this study, thinking he could produce work like this on his own, they would be sorely disappointed. Studies are for learning, not showcasing skill. Esp. master studies.

>> No.3843146

>>3843139
He’s going for a concept artist job. No one gives a fuck if he can copy shit that’s right in front of you, it’s a basic skill even hobbiests should have

>> No.3843147

>>3843129
He had to go back and get a job not related to art because no one was hiring him. Not really the definition of someone who made it

>> No.3843158

>>3843033
So has this guy drawn anything from imagination yet? 6 years and all I see are photobashes and reference copies.

>> No.3843160

>>3843146
this. but yall should keep putting master studies in your portfolios more jobs for me

>> No.3843166

>>3843158
He has started constructing properly and thinking of form, so in a sense yes. Haven’t seen design work from him though.

>> No.3843179

>>3843050
So uh, do YOU make a living out of art, or are you just shitting on someone who does?

>> No.3843183

>>3843033
Most of his drawings are easily passable, what are you talking about? I mean, I may not have seen his shittier drawings from a quick google search but please, post his worst to prove your point.

>> No.3843188

>>3843130
I don't understand. Isn't this a famous painting? Is this a joke?

>> No.3843194

>>3843179
>making a living out of art
>not being STEM master race
>not working in a STEM job that provides actual tangible benefits to society
lol @ you

>> No.3843205

>>3843194
Jokes on you, I'm actually an engineer and drawing is just my hobby. I just don't see why someone would be shitting on another who is working as an artist in the free market, i.e. people are voluntarily giving him money for his work.

>> No.3843208

>>3843194
Copeworks. Half the cunts on 4chan are working stem fags, we know the reality.

>> No.3843292

>>3843194
>he says that while enjoying animu and vidya

>> No.3843477

I mean his studies from old masters and whatnot are pretty nice but He seems to be strangely uncreative and has a small visual library. Maybe He just overthinks everything too much

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>>3843033
Hush now, child.

>> No.3843497

>>3843194
So you don't know what you're talking about. NEXT.

>> No.3843503

>>3843493
kek

>> No.3843577

>>3843183
>>3843131
>>3843129
It's all photobashing, retards

>> No.3843658

>>3843577
All right, most of his "art" is passable, then.

>> No.3843671

>>3843493
Wish this bastard would just get good. Not keen on changing my worldview to incorporate talent

>> No.3843678

>>3843033
daily reminder that master studies or art in general doesn't mean dick if you can't do it with your hand and a piece of paper or canvas.

Digital art is like driving an automatic car, do you think Formula One drivers can only drive automatic cars on race-days?

>> No.3843697

>>3843144
I think studies can be useful, insofar as showing your ability to mimic another style, which could be used if you're in an art team, but at the bottom of the totem pole. like, animation studios would make the junior artists do the in-bet weens, yes?

>> No.3843744

>>3843130
That rendering is so trash, i'm genuinely sad for him.

>> No.3844191

>>3843497
Not an argument.