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3838074 No.3838074 [Reply] [Original]

why does low quality moe art get popular just because it's moe?

>> No.3838077

all high iq's know that most people are not intellagent enough

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>>3838074
Don't mistake low quality and having a simple artstyle. I'm not saying it's on par with KJG renders or god-tier sketches but there's still a lot that goes into it. Most of this board wouldn't be able to reproduce that oekaki anime shit if they wanted to.

>> No.3838110
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>>3838074
Don't mistake low quality and having a simple artstyle. There's still a lot that goes into it. Most of this board wouldn't be able to reproduce that oekaki anime shit if they wanted to.

>> No.3838116

>>3838110
it honestly doesn't look to hard to replicate especially since the designs are bare bones, it feels really flat, and the line art is not even clean.

>> No.3838119

>>3838116
Then try it anon? No offense, but see for yourself. I've never seen this board do it well.
And if you're good at it, you could post it online and surf on that trend.

>> No.3838130

>>3838074
I think you just answered your own question

>> No.3838132
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>>3838119
>surf on that trend.
i want to make it but, i have some dignity. i would never make low quality art for the sake of jumping on a trend.

i also gave it a quick go and it's honestly not that hard.

>> No.3838144

tkmiz is an awful example for this because theyre actually talented as fuck. look at some of the spreads from their manga & then go cry about your lack of skill

>> No.3838154

>>3838132
The characters really dont mean shit. Add a background

>> No.3838156

>>3838144
>tkmiz talented
bruh

>> No.3838158

>>3838144
But I suck so much Anon!
Praise me! Tell me my shitty drawings mean something!

>> No.3838160

>>3838154
his backgrounds are also flat most of the time, they also don't mean shit, the anime fixed it by getting the skilled pros in to draw them.

>> No.3838161
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>>3838132
>i have some dignity
Yeah, right.

>> No.3838162
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>>3838074
personally i call it "low func"
low functioning anime characters, quite cute but i wouldnt advise ppl to become tkmiz knockoffs or whatever. obviously they know what theyre doing and fucking around, and people will eat up anything with enough polish or detail. way worse art gets really big. not calling him bad but honestly its probably a tenth of their skill at work.

>> No.3838163

>>3838161
>hoping on trends = dignity
gmi as a sell out

>> No.3838166

It's not low quality, it's just simple. Anybody above absolute /beg/ can easily tell that OP artist understands appeal and 3d.

>i also gave it a quick go and it's honestly not that hard.
What does "it" mean to you? You don't get it.

>why does low quality moe art get popular just because it's moe?
It doesn't. Drawings >>3838132 would never get popular although they aim for the same impression.

>> No.3838182
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3838182

>>3838166
>tkmiz understands 3d
barely

>> No.3838191

>>3838182
>barely
Why?

>> No.3838197

>>3838182
soul
>>3838132
soulless

>> No.3838202

>>3838191
>just look at that chair
>look at her ear
>look how paper thin that girl next to the big worm looks in the environment

>> No.3838205

>>3838197
they are both soulless
if you want to see good moe art with soul just read the made in abyss manga

>> No.3838218
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>>3838205
you're soulless

>> No.3838221

>>3838205
didnt that artist get arrested for CP

>> No.3838223

>>3838221
that never happened

>> No.3838224

>>3838202
Looked at the chair and ear.

The girl doesn't look paper thin.

It's not as good as OP but it's not enough to say that the artist barely understands 3d. It seems to be from a comic and comics contain many failures, even from celebrated artists, especially in less important panels. That doesn't mean that they don't understand 3d. You can't call it low quality either unless you simply have bad taste and place the work in the wrong context.

>> No.3838226

>>3838182
>>3838197
>>3838218
How do I learn to put soul into my art /ic/?

>> No.3838233

>>3838223
yeah it did it was a huge thing a year ago.

>> No.3838238

>>3838233
link me some proof anon.

>> No.3838240

>>3838233
that was rurouni kenshin’s artist i think

>> No.3838243

>>3838240
Is he okay now?

>> No.3838244
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>>3838224
i quickly threw this together to show that drawing the character at a slightly better angel would have fixed it from looking so paper thin

>> No.3838246

>>3838243
yeah the manga got put on hiatus for a bit then eventually returned

>> No.3838248
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>>3838226
You have to draw something you're really into with every bit of passion you can muster, tirelessly, retentlessly, until yourself and your art reach a soulful state.

>> No.3838256

What part about "keep it simple, stupid" don't you understand, op? Why don't you get your head out of your ass and realize there's more to art than muh Loomis muh fundies and that the intent and meaning behind it is far more important.

>> No.3838258

>>3838240
yeah woops. it was just speculation that tsukushi would fall along with kenshin.

>> No.3838261

>>3838244
The original doesn't look paper thin and your drawing doesn't fix anything, she's just facing another direction. Your awful line quality and pointless form lines just weaken this thread even more.

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>>3838261
>pointless form lines
top kek

>> No.3838271

>>3838266
Kekking it up with the reaction images but still a dunning kruger. Enjoy your future realizations I guess

>> No.3838280

>>3838271

if you think they are pointless i'm pretty sure you don't know what good 3d looking drawings are

>> No.3838291

>>3838132
those hands really make it look like you don't know what you're talking about. not to mention the shape design.
grind out 3000 more boxes and try again

>> No.3838295
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>>3838074
Tkmiz is great, I don’t understand all the hate, especially since the work they put on their twitter is just what they do for fun. Fundies are important, but deviating from reality is fine as well. We learn the rules so we can break them. Tkmiz clearly knows their shit, but it’s also entirely fine to say that you don’t like certain design decisions they’ve made. A piece only needs to follow it’s internal logic.

>> No.3838303

>>3838295

>tkmiz knows their shit

anon they are intermediate level at best.

>> No.3838310

>>3838266
Form lines are not pointless. Your form lines on that image are pointless and also wrong

>> No.3838311

>>3838303
I dissagree, their work on the Girl’s Last Tour ed shows that their fairly competent.

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x68q7hq

>> No.3838331

>>3838311
>most of the shots look flat with the buildings, pipes and, background objects
>i'm not counting the shots with the girls and the car as that's most likely traced from a 3d model like the one they use in the show
>the snow ball fighting shot looks good
>the campfire shot background looks good as well, i hope he didn't trace that.
>house shots toward the end look intermediate tier
>and the camera breaking i'm pretty sure is traced from a 3d model.

>> No.3838334

>>3838331
but it has soul

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>> No.3838340

>>3838334
that art it's self doesn't have soul but the story and the setting does. the art has appeal but it's pretty soulless as it's the pure definition of moe blob. i think if the heads of the characters were slightly altered to be less overly moe it would have helped a lot to give it more soul.

>> No.3838346

>>3838303
pyw

>> No.3838350

>>3838339
fucking kek i'm saving this.
thanks for making me laugh at how bad this meme is.

>> No.3838354

>>3838339
based

>> No.3838358
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>>3838354

>> No.3838364

>>3838248
this.

>> No.3838384

>>3838244
Dunning Kruger

>> No.3838386

>>3838358
>>3838364
AND REDPILLED

>> No.3838409

>>3838295
This looks like it was made in ms paint.

>> No.3838414

>>3838358
based
edit 1: haha can't believe my top rated post is a single word!
edit 2: wow I'm just getting flooded in gold! thanks guys!!

>> No.3838425

>>3838414
seething

>> No.3838427

>>3838425
Based this guy is

>> No.3838428

>>3838427
But unironically

>> No.3838430

>>3838425
haha why are you so mad at a single word lol, based boi kek
edit 1: thank you so much, my first platinum

>> No.3838432

>>3838414
Unironically based and kino post, gets the soul
>>3838358
>>3838425
Doesn't get the meme, souless (unkino and uncopable)

>> No.3838433

>>3838430
>Sarcasm is my default state, aren't i so quirky xd?
>if u dont like me ay my best then u cant have me at my worse
>I hide behind sarcasm because I have no personality and or humor of my own it's the easiest and lowest form of being 'witty' so it's not a problem for the things I'm compensating for.
Cope

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>>3838432
>>3838430
>>3838427
>>3838414
>>3838386
>being retarded enough to spout dumb memes like a child
>>3838433
>>3838428
>>3838425
>>3838358
>being retarded enough to get triggered and cry at dumb memes
Stop being so fucking pathetic and think about what you're doing with your lives. Stop derailing the thread, retards.

>>3838074
I personally love oekaki, there's something so clean and satisfying about it. I notice that most artists who do it well also have a strong understanding of art already, like tkmiz or disgaea's illustrator. Just because it's easy to emulate doesn't mean it's bad.

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>>3838441
>Just because it's easy to emulate doesn't mean it's bad.

>> No.3838451

>>3838433
>not considering that people who don't even draw often come from shitty boards like /b/ and /pol/ just to shitpost
Why are you wasting your time, realize that you're over-analyzing bait and move on. Or at least contribute to the thread..

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>>3838441
>>3838451
Good point. Fair enough. I'll stop because you asked nicely.

>> No.3838459

>>3838441
tkmiz doesn't have a strong understanding of art though, oekaki is all he ever does, and it's always so unclean and messy. don't compare tkmiz to the soulful clean art of disgaea.

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>>3838447
That's just one (unfortunate) example. I guess what's easy to emulate is subjective though, but that comes with skill experience. Something like pic related is easy for me to emulate because I spend a lot of time doing studies of specific styles of artists I like, but it would probably be difficult for someone who is just getting into drawing. Also not going to post my work because fuck being associated with ic.
>>3838459
Fair enough, just goes to show that you can be highly successful even if your art isn't top notch. That should be encouraging if anything. I still love her art and animation though.

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>>3838468
>Something like pic related is easy for me to emulate because
meant this pic related

>> No.3838497

>>3838468
>Fair enough, just goes to show that you can be highly successful even if your art isn't top notch. That should be encouraging if anything. I still love her art and animation though.

not going to argue there, though their art is not the best it's still amazing what they have managed to accomplish, though sometimes i do wish it was less moe as it can be kind of jarring when taken to the extreme. i do still have lots of respect for what they have accomplished and the story they told through girls last tour.

>> No.3838916

>>3838074
Just because something is simple doesn't mean it's low quality.
PSG's style is very minimalistic, yet in the decade since it's air I've only seen one person outside the production team manage to successfully capture the style.

>>3838110
this all the way

>> No.3839048
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3839048

>>3838459
why is messy art not soulful?
if anything, i prefer messy art to shiny clean lineart

>> No.3839063

>>3838384
The lady got a point, you know.

>> No.3839068
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3839068

hows my tkmiz copy guys

>> No.3839072

>>3839068
too much details, you missed at capturing the essence

>> No.3839074

>>3839048
Messy does not always make something soulful just as clean crispness does not make something soulless, this shit is a matter of feel and creativity behind it, generic animu girls with no real purpose for existing tend to be soulless because you dont feel connected to the peice "ah its generic girl 154 nice" when are has soul that means you can feel something that goes along with it, of couse this is just what i belive so take this with a grain of salt.p

>> No.3839076

>>3839072
huh you're right

>> No.3839077

>>3838132
LOL

>> No.3839080

>>3838244
>didn't even align the grid to the floor, so it just floats there
based dunning kruger

>> No.3839082

>>3838243
I think the anime continuation got canceled

>> No.3839152
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>> No.3839156

>>3839068
lines are too messy

>> No.3839407
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>> No.3839413

>>3839407
beautiful

>> No.3839468
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3839468

>OP
>his life
>his drawings
>his redlines

>> No.3839532

>>3838074
its story quality. idc how bad art is, if the story is good, it can pull viewers in np.

>> No.3839655

>>3838077
>high ig
>intelligent

haha no

>> No.3840957
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>> No.3841183
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Is tkmiz a girl? I've heard some people say they're a girl and some say it's some 40 year old married guy with kids

>> No.3841191

>>3838074
pedophiles

>> No.3841214

>>3840957
>>3841183
No guy would ever draw like this.

>> No.3841244

>>3840957
>>3841183
>>3841214
there was some clip of him imitating a dog, he has a guys voice. so, a guy
and no hes not a tranny, this is japan we're talking about

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>>3841183
>>3841214
>>3841244
Pretty sure tkmiz is a girl, that's how every artist I know refers to her at least. And she does a lot of yuri works, which is pretty indicative

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>>3841248
>eats pussy
>an heroes
That escalated quickly.

>> No.3841266

>>3838244
hahahaha

>> No.3841267

>>3838205
literal shit-eater

>> No.3841455
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Only brainlets hate tkmiz

>> No.3841478

>>3838132
>>3838244
this board always makes me laugh

>> No.3841500
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>>3841455
There is something extremely appealing about her art, despite the roughness.

>> No.3841501

>>3841244
>>3841248
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%81%A4%E3%81%8F%E3%81%BF%E3%81%9A
>つくみずは、日本の漫画家。男性[1]。
>Tsukumizu is a Japanese mangaka. Male.
SHE'S LITERALLY FUCKING TRANS LMFAO

>> No.3841505

>>3841248
>first time seeing tkmiz
>then that ending
I, what?

>> No.3841508

>>3841505
>tkmiz lewds
Damn you.

>> No.3841638

>>3841455
I dont hate him, but as Im far from being depressed I just cant relate to his art
Also, if his art is anything but lolis I will hardly get interested

>> No.3841770

>>3841638
Brainlet response, thanks for proving him right.

>> No.3841788

>>3839063
Don't samefag loser

>> No.3841791

>>3838459
>>3839074
actual brainlet

>> No.3841807

>>3841501
Not surprising at all. Women get into yaoi, men get into yuri. It's why both genres are very, very bad at depicting homo lewd shit.

>> No.3842081

>>3841807
3D homosexuality is disgusting, so you can't really blame them for not depicting it realistically.

>> No.3842088

>>3838132
>draws anime
>>i have some dignity
OK, retard.

>> No.3842154

>>3842088
he actually can't draw at all. neither do you. you're that kind of /beg/ pest that turned this board to shit

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>> No.3842329

>>3841248
I thought tkmiz was a girl, then I found:
>年越しの瞬間に射精する人どれくらい居るんだろう
I wonder how many people ejaculate at the precise moment a new year arrives
>女児になったらやりたいことスーパーでかかとのローラーでシャーするやつ
Things I want to do when I become a loli: That heel roller thing
>iPadに射精すると誤作動してアプリが切り替わったりするほどです
When you jizz on the iPad, sometimes it goes crazy and switches apps
>自慰したあと手洗わずに舐めて済ませるのやめたい
I wish I could stop just licking my fingers instead of actually washing my hands after masturbating
>仮想現実で幼児アバターに入ったおじさん同士がイチャイチャする未来まだかな…
Are we at the future where middle aged men can pretend to be little girls in VR and cuddle eachother yet
>女児ぱんつ穿いて講義うけたりしてた
I used to attend class wearing little girl underwear
>コスプレ女装オナニー動画FC2に
上げるの夢だったな…
It was my dream to post a cross dressing masturbation video on FC2...
>美少女同人作家になってスケブおじさんとエッチする夢しか無かった
All I dreamed about was having sex with pervy middle aged men as I turned into a bishoujo doujin artist.
>成人女性の裸見ると吐いちゃう
I puke when I see naked adult women

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>>3842329
Wowee wow wow yet another trans "woman" turns out to be a crossdressing pervert who has a lesbian fetish color me surprised

>> No.3842356

>>3842351
I don't think he ever tried to hide it, it's just a large portion of the yuri community try to argue that he's a girl because they hate men, and anything to do with men. See /u/.

>> No.3842393

>>3842329
oh my god what the fuck.. so hes some kind of pedo? god fucking damn it, what else could i have expected. ffs

>> No.3842411

>>3842393
(s)he's transloli you bigot

>> No.3842412

>>3842329
>I puke when I see naked adult women
everything was ok till here, he needs help

>> No.3842480
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>>3842329
based

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>>3842329
>When you jizz on the iPad, sometimes it goes crazy and switches apps

>> No.3842553

tkmz animated the ED of the anime by himself, he is more talented than everyone in this thread.

>> No.3842571

How do I get a soul /ic/?
What do they have that I don’t?

>> No.3842575

>>3842553
Whats your point. The only person insulting his work is OP

>> No.3842576

>>3842329
based

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>>3842329
>I puke when I see naked adult women
>I used to attend class wearing little girl underwear
All the more reason to like him.

>> No.3843198

>>3842329
based and redpilled

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>>3842329
Fucks sake I believed him not to be a full blown degenerate

>> No.3843217
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>>3842571
Forget about fundies, forget about Loomis, forget about /ic/, just draw what your mind wants to project on the paper. You can't have soul if you restrain it by putting too much technical thought into it. That's why it's so hard to do it. You need to have a style and/or fundies acquired down to muscle memory so they don't hinder your creative flow.

>> No.3843222

>>3839068
Too detailed in the wrong places. Too messy in the wrong places. Shit like this takes some design sense to properly know which part you should reduce to very simple lines and where you should sparingly put small details.

>> No.3843236

>>3843217
I recognize that guro lesbian loli rape artist

>> No.3843842
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>>3843214
His first work was a loli yuri 2hu doujin.

>> No.3843926

>>3843842
I don't care about what he draws, loli yuri are fine in my book as are most fetishes... I meant the person himself being borderline troon with obvious issues.

>> No.3843933

>>3843926
i don't care as long as he's not around real children

>> No.3844096

>>3843926
can't a man ejaculate on his own iPad? can't a man lick his fingers after masturbating? You do much more disgusting stuff during real sex, anyway. Even his dreams of being fucked by middle aged men or posting crossdressing porn is mild tier.

>> No.3844117

>>3844096
That except he's a ~woman~ now.

>> No.3844121

>>3844117
oh wow, okay. I take it back.

>> No.3844469

>>3841770
It must feel great masturbating with the feeling that your IQ is rising just for looking at simplified moe doodles on dark tones

>> No.3844477

>>3843217
Thanks for the advice.

>> No.3844586

>>3842329
holy shit based

>> No.3844611

>>3844096
I mean listen anon, I don't care about what fantasies people have. We all have at least some degen shit on the back ouf or minds and there's nothing wrong with it. There's a difference between thinking things, saying them out loud and acting on them.
It does bother me a bit to see people-and a successful artist at that! talking about how they like jizzing on Ipads, went to school in girls underwear, want to be a troon or hate the sight of grown women so much that it makes them want to puke... I find that quite degenerate. Mildly degenerate, but degenerate nonetheless. You can't do that outside of an anonymous board.

>> No.3844895

>>3838074
Why does shit music gets popular?

>> No.3845002

tkmiz is still not that good and nothing in this thread has convinced me, if you want to see someone who adds more appeal to the style just look at the work of funamusea

>> No.3845089
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>>3845002
>funamusea
At least tkmiz does something different with his art, e.i. genuinely interesting themes and ideas - it's very experimental. Funamusea is just generic 13 year old deviantart girl's cutsey style trash.

>> No.3845157

people should realize that drawing isnt about just correctness or cleaniness of a drawing also style,composition,mood and colors come into role of an art. and imo i like how messy his lines are it just shows its really an art. i can guarantee you that the last attributes are more appealing than correctness or cleanliness of a drawing.

>> No.3845166

>>3845089
>Funamusea is just generic 13 year old deviantart girl's cutsey style trash.
Honestly I think that's why I like funamusea so much. Part of me still likes that type of style a lot, it makes me feel a little nostalgic. Funamusea is just a very nicely refined version of that style.

>> No.3845236

>>3845089
Those huge feet and tiny bodies reminds me of og Bleedman, god dammit.

>> No.3845314

>>3845236
it gives me digimon adventure vibes

>> No.3845508
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>> No.3845515

>>3845508
What separates it from typical amateur scribbles? It has such soul.

>> No.3845550

>>3845515
Fundamentals.

>> No.3845706
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3845706

i gave simple moe drawing a shot

>> No.3845748

>>3845550
What are fundamentals then because you're not using that word like /ic/ does

>> No.3845749

>>3845706
I love it. Got a blog where I can see more?

>> No.3845756

>>3838074
it's popular because it currently has anime and popular comics. The comics got popular because the story is interesting. The story has a market and people are willing to disregard the art. His art, on the other hand, is just mediocre. Muh soul, my ass. If he posted his art here without any of his following, /ic/ wouldn't go "muh soul", shit on him and push him to /beg/. lmaoing at beg people trying out for his low effort artstyle because they can't do any better.

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>>3845756
>comics

>> No.3845760

>>3845515
>soul

it really doesn't it just looks like a poorly drawn hidamari sketch. you can't just justify something with having soul without saying why.


because to me it just looks like souless poorly drawn moe. as i have seen better moe, like made in abyss for an example.

>> No.3845762

>>3845759
I never joined your shitty discord anyway

>> No.3845765

>>3845762
>thinking Japari Park is from that shitty discord server
Oh anon...

>> No.3845766

>>3845756
this.

if he didn't have an anime people on /ic/ would constantly say he is beg tier.

it's only because he has an anime people think he ascended it when he never did, as most of the anime was drawn by actually top tier people and the ending he did you can tell was rotoscoped from the 3d models they use apart from a few scenes like the snowball fight and the camera breaking.

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>>3838074
don't know, but there's art who is horribly ugly and bad done and is still popular.

>> No.3845772

>>3845766
people are trying to grasp at something. We're /ic/, but you'd be shocked at how many begs are in the anime groups and how bad (even for a beg) they are. I've seen many who went the way of of this artist. They couldn't improve so they just stylized the shit out of their art, and 99% of their art are chicken scratches with half-assed colors. Muh soul, amirite?

>> No.3845902

>>3845749
well i have an IG but i don't have much stuff like this. I enjoy experimenting with lots of stuff so im not too consistent. thanks for the interest tho, anon.
instagram/tepperzcoloredbrush

>> No.3845945

>>3845902
You should continue to do the style more and better yourself with it. You're quite good at it.

>> No.3845963

>>3845945
thanks, i think i will

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>> No.3846261

>>3842329
Holy fucking kek, based

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3846337

>>3842329
Jesus.
I didn't think sh-I mean....he? was that fucked in the head.

>> No.3846339

>>3845515
Japanese people have a specific word for this kind of drawing that means "good bad art" or something

>> No.3846413

>>3842329
>I used to attend class wearing little girl underwear
h-hot

>> No.3846531

>>3838074
It's cute and puts me in a good mood.

>> No.3846536

>>3838116
Yes replicate. Creating these designs, backgrounds, colors and storytelling from scratch is something else. dumbass.

>> No.3846539

>>3846536
give someone a box of crayola markers or ms paint and they could do the same

>> No.3846547

>>3846539
then do it faggot

>> No.3846558

>>3846547
>purposely make bad art when you could use that time to make good art
no, because i'm not retarded and i don't want any of his bad habbits rubbing off onto me even trying to replicate his stuff

>> No.3846577

>>3842329
>imagine every character he draws is actually his self insert as a little girl

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3846591

>>3846577
... Is that weird? Is that not what we're supposed to do?

>> No.3846598

>>3846591
Are lolifags secretly homo and trans?

>> No.3846608

>>3846598
Not sure about homo, but mentally ill people flock to trans shit. You get lolicon, furries, nu males and speedrunners all turning trans as a way to feel accepted as part of a tribe that validates their lives until they end up killing themselves as soon as they realize that it's not that simple and the after-care of the transition procedure is hellish.

>> No.3846679

>>3846339
oekaki

>> No.3846786

>>3846577
it probably most likely is the case

>> No.3846828

>>3846608
B-But what do you mean that with enough estrogen my old man dick wont turn into an eeny little girl pussy?
What do you mean irreparable damage??

>> No.3846846

>>3846786
>>3846339
http://yagian.blogspot.com/2012/11/heta-uma-unskillful-but-skillful-and.html

>> No.3847502

>>3838074
It has soul

>> No.3847505

>>3847502
>muh soul

>> No.3847508

>>3847505
Sorry you lack the soul necessary to make good art. Why don't you go play with the other NPC's on /pol/ and /tv/

>> No.3847511

>>3847508
i don't think someone who wears little girls panties and vomits at the sight of real women but still draws women doing lewd stuff has a soul. if they had a soul they already sold it to the moe devil.

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>>3847511
Nah, there's still soul. Tortured and twisted, but you can still see it in the work, or rather, feel it.

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3847517

>>3847514
Did they just become an hero?

>> No.3847523

>>3847514
>>3847517
Yeah, what the hell is going on? tkmiz's style seems to be moeblob but with a dark twist without you even knowing it.

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3847526

>>3847514
there is so much about this that is jarring to even look at. fuck me even redlining this would be such a pain to point out everything wrong with it.

there is no soul in it, you just think it has one because the girls all have moe blob faces so you feel a sense of attachment and protection to it because that's how are ape brains work with cute things with big eyes and stuff.

i have seen better things with more soul in the alternative threads on this board than this empty husk.

>> No.3847529

>>3847526
>thinking in terms of right and wrong
Truly kanekibrained.

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>>3847517
Don't worry, they left their shoes behind. I'm sure they'll come back for them
>>3847523
Drawn by one poor sad fuck
>>3847526
NGMI

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3847538

>>3847529
all art is subjective to each individual but that's genuinely how the brain works and this art is just using cheap tactics to make you like it on an emotional level without the actual substance of actually being drawn that well on a technical level.

>> No.3847542

>>3847514
>the girl in the pink jacket thats probably regretting her decision
this hurts to look at

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3847543

>>3847532
i swear moe attracts autism there is nothing that sureal about it.

i rather be ngmi then be gmi as a moeblob sellout

>> No.3847550

>>3847543
Nice b8.

>> No.3847551

>>3847543
This style seems familiar.

>> No.3847561

>>3847550
>b8
fucking kek, imagine being this dense

>>3847551
it's called leh soullessian and is a style first invented in japan by hack pixiv and twitter artists. who watched anime growing up and want to replicate what they watched but are to lazy to actually put effort into getting good.

the western equivalent of this is the kids and edgy teenagers on deviant art that draw bright neon coloured cats and cartoon characters and say it's muh style.

>> No.3847565

>>3847561
Post your work. All you've done so far is shitpost with your ironic "this is you" pieces. You're so talented and underrated? Show us

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>>3847523
That's the appeal
Also pic related. This guy has some nice cute stuff but with really dark tones

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>>3847566

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>>3847568
This is just getting really fucking annoying now, why won't the artist just kill themselves already if that's all they fucking think about.

>> No.3847573

>>3847566
This is like the opposite of tkmiz's style. Really dark but with a moeblob touch. It drains me to actually see this guy's art though, so I'm not going to look at anymore.

>> No.3847578

>>3847565
i would but, i know you lot are all just crabs and would be jealous of my actually well put together technical drawing skills in anime. i can already see the seafoam frothing from your mouth from your posts ready to go into extreme crab snapping mode.

because i actually studied the fundamentals, and other mangaka and can draw on the level of that of a professional mangaka.

>> No.3847579

>>3847570
The dopamine hit from thinking about it is like crack to them. It's the same as any other addiction.

>> No.3847580

>>3847578
Then do it.
>"You'll get angry so why bother"
Well for one, we'll no you're not a limp dick faggot who can only shovel shit, but can't take it.
Show us your work and prove us wrong. Oh wait, you won't, because you don't need to show us all the work and effort in your art, you can just tell us. It's Dan's Game the post

>> No.3847581

>>3847570
this,

they are a degenerate, that makes mediocre art that only is popular due to moe, and has a fetish for yuri and little girl panties.

>> No.3847594

>>3847580
i can take shit but their work is worse than shit so if it's between saying their work is good or taking shit. i will take the shit firmly in both of my hands as it smells less.

of course i'm not going to show you i'm actually a pro that made it, i draw at a professional manga and doujin level. to show you my work would be outing my identity and linking it to this thread and even worse tkmiz

>> No.3847600

>>3847594
>Dan's Game the post

>> No.3847608

>>3847600
bruh, i don't give a fuck if you think it's dan's game the post. being a professional mangaka i know when there is actual passion into the work.

dragon maid goes for a similar style as tkmiz but if you look at that mangaka's art you will notice how much more refined, soul, and passion they put into their drawings even if they are in a moeblob style over tkmiz, that shits out a half bake drawing most of the time knowing people will like it just because it's moe.

>> No.3847615

>>3847608
>"It's shit, but I'm better. Not like I can whip up a drawing independant of anything I normally do. Nah, drawing don't grow on trees. Just take my word for it bro"

>> No.3847626

>>3847615
>that's some nice b8, i was almost tempted to pick up the pen and prove you wrong, but i'm not even going to risk ruining my career by linking it to some 4chan thread just to prove some rando wrong about how bad tkmiz is.

though even if they viewed the the most technical well drawn manga in existence they would still call it mechanical and soulless and proclaim tkmiz has soul with his few scribbles and half done works.

>> No.3847628

>>3847578
>jealous of my actually well put together technical drawing skills in anime.
>>3847594
>to show you my work would be outing my identity
lel pussy

>> No.3847630

>>3847626
As the best artist on /ic/, I dub you the crab knight.

>> No.3847634

Why is it so difficult for you faggots to post work?

>> No.3847636

>>3847628
>if not wanting to ruin my career to prove some internet rando wrong makes me a pussy

then i'm the biggest pussy in the world and it feels a whole lot better than being a tkmiz dickhead.

>> No.3847638

>>3847634
why don't you start with yours and have it be linked to this thread then?

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3847645

>>3841253
>>3847517
>>3847570
Are my posts, and I can draw a half assed depressed moe blob and claim to be a yurifag too for sympathy points. May I have a fucking circlejerk now?

>> No.3847647

>>3847645
was meant for >>3847638

>> No.3847662

>>3847645
Is that all you got? One head? How many (you)'s before you draw chest? Or a leg? Is it really too easy to draw that you don't bother drawing a whole picture.

>> No.3847665

>>3847662
I have drawn the entire picture but since we have a normal fag infestation I don't want to get banned again.

>> No.3847667

>>3847665
Mods are banning loli's
Since when?
Why is >>3842556 still up then?

>> No.3847668

>>3847667
A simple flat chest is not indicative to a loli, but the tumblrtards in that thread say otherwise.

>> No.3847671

>>3838074
its almost like context > technicality huh

>> No.3847676

>>3842329
Based

>> No.3847677

>>3846608
>speedrunners
whats wrong with speedrunning?

>> No.3847685

>>3847578
the delusion is strong with this one

>> No.3847711

>>3838074
Dunning Kruger: the thread.

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3847828

>>3847526
How come it made me feel, then?

>> No.3847831

>>3845766
>consistent, attractive style
>shows clear experience with color palettes and/or hatching in many works
>but he's a /beg/ because its messy jittery linework sometimes

he's only /beg/ to other /beg/s

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>>3846846
Not directly related but when DA wasn't yet completely overrun by retarded fetish crap I used to take a peek at the new entries and leave something encouraging on those, I looked at this really amateurish art just to take a break from the unreachable mindblowing pro tier stuff on my feed, I have insanely high standard and seeing amateur art kept me grounded, and the ideas sometimes are strangely fresh?

I love ThomasInTokyo btw, he's some French guy working in the anime industry who redraws things made by his kids and puts the images side to side, some of the most inspiring stuff I've ever seen
https://www.instagram.com/thomasintokyo

>> No.3847837

>>3847832
Wait he isn’t Japanese? How are the Frenchies so good at this whole Japanese thing? First it’s Radiant and now this? The color their skin would seem to indicate otherwise, but they somehow pull through? Anime and manga was supposed to be tied to the East and yet the French can learn its powers?

>> No.3847840

>>3847832
>https://www.instagram.com/thomasintokyo

>dont have soul
>steal soul from your kid
Did he beat the system?

>> No.3847841

>>3847832
what book is that?

>> No.3847842

>>3847837
Well if you move into a country and go full immersion and work in the actual industry you probably have an easier time learning to do the thing.

>> No.3847844

>>3847841
no idea, I have found this on this page >3846846
I don't really believe this 100%, I think technical skill is important even if you want to do simple shit, just like you can tell an amazing guitarist playing 3 chords from some guy strumming at the beach.

>> No.3847846

>>3847844
*but it's a good thing to keep in mind anyway

>> No.3847852

>>3847831
>it's his style so you can't critize it xDDDDDDDDDDDDddDDDD ecksdeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

ah, yes, my favorite weeb "argument"

>> No.3847879

>>3847645
Anon, you have to have at least someone dying or about to die in that picture. Otherwise, it wouldn't have SOUL, and it won't pander to "this is literally my feels" doomers.

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>>3847514
>>3847532
>>3847523
>tranny thinks about suicide
Oh boy oh boy

>> No.3848257

>>3847852
this

reminds me of the kids on deviantart that make the same excuse of muh style

>> No.3848262

>>3838077
Baste

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>>3847852
>>3848257
>disregard the idea that a good color palette and irregular linework can create appealing artwork
>disregard how consistent the linework and hatching are
>disregard the competent compositions
>"m-MUH STYLE AM I RIGHT XDD"
literally ngmi

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>>3848270
>good color palette
where i can't see it? it's just all soft pastel tumblr shit most of the time.

>consistent line work
hahahaha, it's as consistent as my ass crack.

>competent composition
i give tkmiz that

they are a gmi muh style moe blob sellout

>> No.3848305

i want to lure tkmiz into visiting /ic/ and make her cry!

>> No.3848311

>>3848305
>her

>> No.3848313

>>3848311
alright, her(male)

>> No.3848317

>>3848313
>her(male)

>> No.3848323

>>3848305
We've just read about how he had his cummies all over his cellphone making the touchscreen spazz out

>> No.3848334

>>3848323
I want tkmiz to cum on the /ic/ catalog

>> No.3848351

>>3848334
So this is what makes you autists start orbiting someone? An effeminate male pretending to be a sexually confused girl with suicidal thoughts conveyed in drawings of little girls while blogging about the times he wore panties in public?

>> No.3848375

>>3848351
I don't care about any of that weird stuff I just think this board should be cummed on.

>> No.3848385

>>3848375
nothings stopping you anon

>> No.3848388

>>3848375
Take a screenshot of what's on the /ic/ catalog and give a fap offering for /ic/. Be a hero.

>> No.3848411

>>3848385
>>3848388
I dont have an ipad and I dont have a printer and I'm in the same room as my roommate who would probably stop talking to me if I just started ejaculating on my monitor so I cant really see this working out

>> No.3848417

>>3848411
you're a 4chan user, your roommate is a normie who cares what they think just do it. it's not like you are a normie anyway

>> No.3848420

>>3848351
yo, where are my orbiters at?

>> No.3848438

>>3838074
i wonder if tkmiz is an incel...

>> No.3848439

>>3848420
Post your work.

>> No.3848511

This thread is a perfect example of soul vs soulless being more than just a meme, there's the world of arguments about what's wrong with tkmiz here yet not one anon has successfully stepped up to the plate and produced satisfactory work that can compete. You can hat anime and you can hate messy styles but when you try to bring objective arguments to the table you're gonna need to back yourself up somehow.

>> No.3848520

>>3848511
the arguments exist to prove the point, i don't need to show you my work to prove i'm correct if i can give you examples of other peoples work that already do it. again dumb anon check out the dragon maid manga for moe art with soul and passion and a care for the craft.

and the reason people think soul vs soulless is a meme is people apply soul to work like tkmiz, with little to no context as to why it has it. which can be assumed by most people is just because it's some generic cute moeblobs that are all the same design just swapped out with new clothes and hair.

>> No.3848560

>>3848520
>i don't need to show you my work to prove
You are wrong and with what you've just said you have nullified your entire post.

>> No.3848570

>>3848560
imagine being this much of a retard.

sure next thing your going to asking is that i need to show you my body to prove i'm human.

or that i need to show you my pc to prove i'm using one to post this.

fucking retard learn common sense, learn to take on facts and examples to people provide if they logically make sense.

>> No.3848575

>>3848570
So you would blindly listen to just anyone who talks straight out from their ass with no merit? You bring a whole new level of the blind leading the blind.

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>>3848575
>take on facts and examples if they logically make sense

fuck sake, tkmiz fans are so dumb i have never seen any other fans for other types of moe be this dumb. even when constantly proven wrong.

instead of just admitting "hey tkmiz is stuff is kind of shit and soulless as it is just moeblobs but i still kind of like it, what can i say"

but that is so hard so fuck tkmiz and fuck their pathetic fans that empower their mediocrity.

>> No.3848596

>>3848585
The point everyone's trying to make here is that if the content from the OP is so shit and unoriginal why can't those who objectively criticize not only recreate but enhance it to meet whatever tier of appeal that is deemed competent under the fundamentals? I am playing the devil's advocate here I am not even that other Anon who you initially replied to but what I am stating is either put up or shut up there's a lot of shit flinging ITT with no merit whatsoever to back any claims up.

>> No.3848604

>>3848596
>>3848585
Therefore any argument against the content from the OP is entirely subjective to one's tastes and preferences what it boils down to is another "you're waifu a shit" tug o war between who has better tastes than who it's pointless.

>> No.3848619
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3848619

>>3848596
it's not that hard to do to in hence it, it's as simple as toning down the moe, adding in extra detail, correct none broken anatomy, ect
just look at something like tsugumomo that goes for a moe type of style but with all the fundamental craft.

again i don't have to show you my work to prove the point of tkmiz is not that good even by moe standards, and moe is the only thing that draws people to there art.

a film reviewer doesn't need to have directed a film to know it's bad if they give examples how it is

someone doesn't need to have a helicopter licence to know it's bad and someone fucked up when they see a helicopter crashed into a tree

a game developer doesn't need to show what
games they have made to prove that something like bubsy 3d plays like shit

it's the same for this situation.

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3848625

>>3848619
>i don't have to show you my work
We really appreciate you telling us this that way we would know exactly where to stop reading.

>> No.3848630

>>3848570
lol devil's proof

>> No.3848631

>>3848625
fine go suck on tkmiz's shitty art see if i care. empower more shitty low effort art. because it has muh moe soul.

i'm going to go spend my time actually looking at well put together moe art and studying from that over moe scribbles and half done works

>> No.3848635

>>3848619
Of course you don't need to have a helicopter license, directed a move, or made a game to state the obvious.
But sometimes, an expert opinion is more valuable when the situation isn't as black and white.

>> No.3848641

>>3848635
what is so not black and white about tkmiz's art fitting

>the definition of moe blob
>having uncompleted messy line work
>broken anatomy
> looking flat in a lot of places, lacking a more better understanding of 3d form

they have good composition skills and a decent understanding of 3d environments but it's just all so poorly executed for it be of anything really good.

>> No.3848642

>>3848631
Just so you know I believe it is shit and personally detest the artist since /ic/ has painted them as an edgy little brat who uses dark humor to attention whore. Call it the Shadman of moeblobs if you like, I honestly just wanted to see your work. Is it really that difficult to post work?

>> No.3848655

>>3848642
>redpilled anon

nah it honestly is not but i just don't want to be linked with anything to do with tkmiz regarding my work. i'm a pro i have a few friends in some of the doujin circles i am in that also agree that tkmiz just takes moe to a very low effort level.

which is all fine and dandy at the start but they show zero effort of ever trying to improve or change as they are stuck in their own style as it got them and anime so they think they don't ever need to improve and can just keep making the same type of drawings and stagnate in the same spot forever.

a little more anatomy in his work would go a very long way.

also shadman is a very good point of comparison to tkmiz. they are not hopeless you can see the potential but they get stuck in their style that got them money and fame and never improve past it.

>> No.3848663

>>3848655
>i just don't want to be linked with anything to do with tkmiz
It would be easier if you just admit that you don't want your shitposts be connected with you and have your work be regarded as inferior to what's on the OP. Maybe it's because most of us are so used to remaining an Anon with no name outside from here that may jeopardize you from remaining inside a social circle so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. I still think you're full of shit.

>> No.3848668

>>3848663
>my work inferior to op
haha that would be a hard one for anyone to pull off you would literally have to be super beg tier or just chris-chan.


thanks for the benefit of the doubt, also sure think what you want of me. i have already stated most of my key points with proof as to why they are true.

so i'm cool if people want to continue to like tkmiz after everything i have proven that's up to them. i don't care if anyone believes me or not and i'm not risking my anonymity over it.

any way i have said my peace think i am going to stop responding to this thread as it's eating out time i could be make pages.

>> No.3848672
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>>3838074
The only one who comes even close to Tkmiz feel (on the board) it's Madotsuki-bro

>> No.3848675

>>3848672
Please stop shilling your own work.

>> No.3848676

>>3848672
madotsuki-bro is cool you can tell they put more effort into learning the fundamentals than tkmiz

>> No.3848682

>>3848675
Madotsuki-bro would never do that, how new are you?

>> No.3848684

>>3848682
Confirmed for being madofag. We like you, please stop while you are ahead.

>> No.3848737

what in the god damn is this thread

>> No.3848741

>>3848737
tkmiz hell scape

>> No.3848892

>>3848737
Autist causes a shitstorm and won't post his work to back up any of his claims.

>> No.3848928

>>3848737
muh soul the thread

>> No.3848937

Personally i love the themes he brings up in his works, and because he also seems to share a few similar interests with me
Y'all can talk shit about his imperfect artwork and perverted fantasies all you want, but unironically these flaws are what gives artworks a human touch (or "soul" if you like to put it that way)

And ultimately he's the one who got his manga animated, not the one bitterly slaving away to chase technical perfection while not producing anything notable at all

>> No.3848939

>>3848937
This is quite an elaborate way to state muh style.

>> No.3848942

>>3848939
this

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3848984

>>3848255