/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.3837137]

How do I draw like this?

https://twitter.com/aya_katsudon

Before anyone asks

[Anonymous No.3837143]

Learn perspective. Learn nude and clothed figure drawing. Learn design. Learn to create a good story with strong characters and believable sets. Use lots of reference and draw from life. And practice all of that consistently.
Study your favorite artist, learn what you like about their work and why.

[Anonymous No.3837148]

>>3837143
I was going to type up another answer, but just do this and just follow her twitter closely. Close /ic/. Never come back again. And you will forever be happy that you can draw like that.

[Anonymous No.3837171]

>>3837137
go from simple shapes to small details
obviously you have to go decent first

[Anonymous No.3837176]

>>3837137
Unironically give your soul to the Robertsonomicon
You can find a copy in the artbook thread

[Anonymous No.3837178]

I like how free the lines are, not sure why, maybe because it makes it more lively that some super cleanly constructed heavy perspective stuff

[Anonymous No.3837182]

>>3837178
By the way, can you get such results by just eyeballing stuff?
I'm /beg/ but I feel like this might not be fully accurate (not that it matters anyway) and that the lines and kind of rough and wobbly look in some places might help hide this.
Like if you're trying to be 100% accurate with super clean lineart and you make one mistake it's disturbing, but it you draw like her or, even more rough, like Q Hayashida (Doroherodo manga), it gives more freedom in not having to stick to maths.

[Anonymous No.3837183]

>>3837182
Yes, you can get such results by just eyeballing stuff.

[Anonymous No.3837185]

>>3837182
>not having to stick to maths.
most people eyeballing VP not just a selected few

[Anonymous No.3837189]

>>3837137
Also, you will never be able to draw like this unless you enjoy drawing itself. This is very much a "I love drawing" kind of style.

[Anonymous No.3837197]

>>3837189
This seems deep but I'm not sure I _get_ it.
Do you mean it just takes so much time that you have to love drawing? Or something else?

[Anonymous No.3837200]

>>3837197
You will never do it unless you love drawing. You won't learn how, you want take the time you need to do do it, you won't polish it to perfection. There's a reason so many of us paint.

[Anonymous No.3837232]

>>3837200
It's strange you say this. I feel like I fucking love drawing and when I start I can't stop, but for some reason I've also slacked my whole life and never really learned or spent much time. I feel conflicted. Anyway, I guess actually starting and shutting down everything else to work the most hours you cna everyday is part of "the job", so I should probably learn discipline if I want to get anywhere close to this one day.
(sorry for the off topic and broken english)

[Anonymous No.3837283]

>>3837232
Not him but what happens to most people is they start the learning process and it kills them, they feel like they making no progress and start to wonder if they still like drawing, but by all means start learning.
>>3837197
From looking at the picture the "I love drawing" kind of style that other poster mentioned is probably refering to the hobbyist aesthetic of it, the wobbly lines, uncolored graphite and fetails look like it was done in a therapeutic manner to have fun rather than trying to make something refined ( all the details look like the artist probably had the same fun feeling of doodling around a page whilst someone that would be doing it professionally might not enjoy doing all that detail)

[Anonymous No.3837489]

>>3837137
Happy cat

[Anonymous No.3837695]

>>3837137
>everything is super accurate
>faces are toddler tier trash
this person is an autistic savant, 100%

[Anonymous No.3837713]

>>3837137
literally just keep trying to copy them until it works

[Anonymous No.3837718]

>>3837182
I'm also still beg but as far as I know people are eyeballing stuff. You've to practice it to be accurate.

[Anonymous No.3838135]

>>3837176
this. if your mind can stand roberts mind blast of boredrom you have the neccessary patience to reach your goal

[Anonymous No.3838228]

>>3837137
use a pencil. easy

[Anonymous No.3839002]

shit is not perfect perspective for you beginners to feel better, but at the same time shit is good enough relative to other shit. Eyeballing requires going in and out when comparing objects relationships to each other. When you get to a certain point you just can feel when shit you put down is tilted or off kilter and draw to accommodate it just enough so the whole thing will stay "good enough". Once you draw the lines for the bottom of a box object you can kinda work how everything else has to sit in relationship to it and then eyeball how far back other things sit because once you have certain objects you should know how to multiply and measure distance based on objects in perspective, ect ect ect. At a certain point forcing things into true perspective fucks shit up since it all wasn't made with that intention but using guides to check stuff can help stop you from drawing sideways trees and flat people all of a sudden.

[Anonymous No.3839008]

>>3837137
I call this "memory vomiting", if you look closely nothing is terribly detailed, she's just vomiting everything she can remember about each form.

It works in reverse too, don't try to sketch details, TAKE NOTES, DON'T DRAW.

I'll repeat. TAKE NOTES INSTEAD OF "DRAWING" about what you're looking at.

[Anonymous No.3841612]

Damn why doesn't she have a trillion followers

[Anonymous No.3841622]

>>3841612
it's black and white and doesn't look good as a thumbnail. Also it looks cluttered, putting a ton of shit into a single image doesn't automatically make it good.

>>3838135
she clearly eyeballs stuff, there are no construction lines so she doesn't work with the Robertson method

[Anonymous No.3841689]

>>3841622
Robertson method, as most others, needed to teach you to eyeball it all and to be able to do construction in your head. You use construction lines only as long as you still need them but the further you go the less you will use them.

[Anonymous No.3841713]

>>3841689
robertson's whole point is using landmarks so you can just mirror shit without error, he uses the landmarks in his regular drawings, you can see them. Federici uses the same method with X grids and shit, the whole point of that stuff is not eyeballing.

[Anonymous No.3841714]

>>3841612
She is only seventeen. No wonder she doesn't have many followers.

[Anonymous No.3841722]

This twitter seems to contain more of her drawings of human characters instead of focusing mainly on backgrounds.

https://twitter.com/aya_tonkatsu

>>3837143
>>3837189
She seems to be EXTREMELY passionate for drawing. If you scroll through her twitter accounts, she appears to be uploading something every other day. It's like she spends almost every free moment drawing. I admire her passion for it.

Glad this thread introduced me to this artist.

>>3841612
>>3841714
I would say 12k followers to 418 following ratio is pretty damn good for twitter. She even has Kuvshinov and Guweiz following her.

[Anonymous No.3841724]

>>3841714
>She is only seventeen

[Anonymous No.3841725]

>>3841724
I legit want to kill myself rn

[Anonymous No.3841726]

>>3841722
Based

[Anonymous No.3841729]

>>3841722
Great environments but the shitty anime faces completely ruin the art.

[Anonymous No.3841741]

>>3841725
>>3841724
She seems to draw even when she goes out to eat with people

https://twitter.com/aya_katsudon/status/1080413084898848770

If you're really feeling suicidal, check out this artist, pic related. According to her, she just graduated high school recently ;_;

http://pixiescout.tumblr.com/

Do these teen savant artists spend so much time in high school doing art that they become nearly professional level by the time they're 18. I wish I used all my free time in high school as well.

I know I'm making excuses for myself but I feel like there wasn't as many good art resources back then (even like almost 10 years ago) as there is now.

>>3841729
If she's just 17, she has tons of time to improve her faces. It looks like backgrounds is more of a strong point for her.

[Anonymous No.3841742]

>>3841724
>seventeen
Give me one reason why I shouldn't delete my art blogs and fucking give up right fucking now
I am DOUBLE her age and I'm not even a tenth as good
Holy fucking shit just kill me right now

[Anonymous No.3841745]

>>3841741
>She seems to draw even when she goes out to eat with people
I draw all the fucking time too, why am I not this good

[Anonymous No.3841746]

>>3841742
do it

[Anonymous No.3841751]

Maybe talent does exist

[Anonymous No.3841755]

>>3841751
Yeah, maybe. Just maybe.

[Anonymous No.3841758]

>>3841755
Nah, she’s probably clocked in over 10000 hours easy. What’s worrying is I doubt I would have the patience to draw out environments the way she does. Drawing every cup on a display stand...

[Anonymous No.3841764]

More suicide fuel. The artist was just 18 when this was made

http://velinxi.tumblr.com/tagged/veloce-draws-poop

Also special mention to Vetyr who used to be on /ic/ a lot

>>3841742
Does anyone ever wish that they could have spent their time in high school grinding more? But it feels like a lot of these good teen artists drew what they liked AND studied fundamentals at the same time.

I remember just wanting to draw sonic the hedgehog OCs and doodle all the time. It feels like high school is the perfect time to become good at art with all the free time and lack of responsibility a lot of high school students have.

>>3841745
Probably because of this >>3841751

That just means you have to work even harder to make up for the lack of it ;_;

[Anonymous No.3841767]

>>3841764
Pic related sucks though

[Anonymous No.3841774]

>>3841764
I think it's time for me to throw in the towel. I tried my best for years. Fuck this shit, fuck my talentless self, fuck the time I wasted in my teens fucking around. Maybe I can still find work at McDonald's like I was meant to all along until I find the courage to jump against a train.

[Anonymous No.3841776]

>>3841714
where did you get the info she's 17?

[Anonymous No.3841794]

>>3841764
I just smoked pot, got shitfaced drunk and had sex as a teen, didn't care about drawing till mid 20s
now it's literally too fucking late, I wasted my fucking life

[Anonymous No.3841795]

>>3841774
Pretty weird that that cringe finally made you give up

[Anonymous No.3841796]

>>3841741
>>3841764
>>3841764
don't feel too bad. i studied art super backbreakingly hard throughout highschool and i still suck really hard anyways. and i knew /ic/ by then.
the road to getting gud is insanely complex and nuanced, with hundreds of factors that can make or break your chances of artistic success.
intense study in your teen years can definitely help a lot, but don't fool yourself into thinking that it will seal your deal to gitgud express or even anywhere near that.

[Anonymous No.3841806]

>>3841795
The pic in >>3841764 is shit but >>3841741 and OP are beyond anything I will ever achieve and it's made by literal kids. I have lived twice their years and I'm fucking shit. I look at my art stuff and I realize that I'm delusional for even daring to post it online, it doesn't even look like an actual presentable portfolio while these children have an absolutely professional look to everything they do. I should just accept that I wasted all my best years having dumb fun instead of working and now I'm fucked.

[Anonymous No.3841828]

>>3841806
Pyw, Photoshop jank can bring acceptable stuff up to a pro level

[Anonymous No.3841832]

>>3841828
I do what OP does but shitty

[Anonymous No.3841834]

>>3841832
Oh in that case check out the ‘stealing art gains’ thread, I’ve heard there’s something you can do with her poop

[Anonymous No.3841837]

>tfw will never get to stuff a qt female art prodigy's frozen poop up my ass

[Anonymous No.3841841]

>>3841834
I just lose all my motivation to draw. I would've been drawing for 3 hours now but I had to read this stupid thread during breakfast so why the fuck should I even try. I hate this board so much.

[Anonymous No.3841859]

>try to find something motivational to stop wanting to kms
>find videos / articles
>"don't compare yourself to younger and better artists, it's toxic!"
>"they might be already pros with 300k followers and 10 years younger than you but it's your voice that is important!"
>"you are unique and nobody is better than you at being you!"
>look up the speaker's art
>it's fucking garbage

[Anonymous No.3841882]

>>3841622
This, even just flat colours would make her much more popular with Normies and at least double her followers. Mochiipanko's environments are much simpler than this but have appealing colours that people eat right up. Shilling yourself constantly with hashtags like visiblewomen etc also helps but nips seem to have too much self respect for that, bless them.

[Anonymous No.3841932]

>>3841776
From her profile:
あや 高3 絵 メタリカを愛する 原画売ってます
"Aya, third‐year high school student, love Metallica, original picture on sale"

[Anonymous No.3841938]

>>3841932
living the dream, the perfect human specimen

[Anonymous No.3841941]

I also found out she is a member of brass band and not art major. She is a fuckin' trombone player. Jeez...

[Anonymous No.3841944]

>>3841941
>tfw no qt gf art genius will play my trombone

[Anonymous No.3841953]

>>3841941
Now I really hope that she keeps doing her hobbies

[Anonymous No.3841954]

>>3841941
yeah it always turns out that these people not only are insanely good at the thing you obsessively do all day but also have a nice healthy social life and do other activities and probably excel at those too because they're just made of better genetic material so why the fuck not

[Anonymous No.3841956]

>tfw will never be a qt japanese schoolgirl doing everything you like while excelling at them and also having a healthy social life

[Anonymous No.3842040]

>>3841954
"Made of better genetic material"

Shut the fuck up and fuck off with your excuses

[Anonymous No.3842099]

>>3841722
This would be so perfect without these animu faces

[Anonymous No.3842100]

>>3841724
She probably drew from an early age, theres nothing wrong with that

[Anonymous No.3842112]

>>3842040
I've been drawing 8 to 10 hours a day for 7 years, I've given up on everything else, friends study jobs, just to draw and I'm not a tenth as good. Nobody gives a shit about my work. I'm just a useless retard who started way too late. I deleted everything I have online and I took a fuckload of Valium. I hope I don't wake up. I hate myself so fucking much.

[Anonymous No.3842114]

>>3842112
see you tomorrow

[Anonymous No.3842116]

>>3841932
Teen art qt with boomer musical tastes, perfect gf

[Anonymous No.3843541]

>>3841954
it is truly the blackest of all pills

[Anonymous No.3843542]

>>3843541
Another one down

[Anonymous No.3843548]

>>3837137

[Anonymous No.3843565]

>>3837137
This level of detail makes me physically sick. Why would anyone ever want to do this

[Anonymous No.3843570]

>>3843565
i think it looks cool.

[Anonymous No.3843573]

we're not gonna make it bros

[Anonymous No.3843969]

>>3841741
>She seems to draw even when she goes out to eat with people
Is this love that I feel?
I want an autistic qt japanese drawfag gf now, how can I live without this aaaaaaaaah

>>3841742
Because being good at pure technical aspects doesn't mean being successful or being able to convey what you want to you retardatron

[Anonymous No.3843972]

>>3841794
It's not too late holy shit, just fucking draw, your fucking pussy.
Maybe it's too late for _some_ goals like becoming KJG, but is this what you want? Do you only admire KJG level?

[Anonymous No.3843980]

>>3843565
Because many artists find it enjoyable to draw tons of detail and clutter

[Anonymous No.3844012]

>>3842112
i wanna see your work anon. it's possible you're grinding too much & not as effectively as you could be.
>>3841741
if you're a kid who likes art & takes it semi seriously say from 12 years old onwards then you'd easily have 6 years of study by 18. that doesn't take a savant especially when you consider that's the same age if not older than when most apprentice artists would've started working when art was an actual trade. the biggest problem now is that kids (many of you probably experienced this too) are actively discouraged from pursuing art & fed all kinds of misinformation so that they can waste all their time on a generalized education that they'll largely never use.
>>3841764
these kids have much better resources at their disposal. remember what it was like trying to learn how to draw 10+ years ago? there was very little in the way of professional tutorials or process videos, you pretty much had dimestore how to draw anime books & maybe hogarth if you were really lucky. not to mention the software options were far more limited & expensive too
>>3841741
>She seems to draw even when she goes out to eat with people
and you should too.

[Anonymous No.3844018]

>>3841741
>https://www.deviantart.com/pixiescout/art/New-Girl-211963619
>https://www.deviantart.com/pixiescout/gallery/
case and point, look through her gallery from the very beginning. there's nothing particularly extraordinary about getting gradually really good at something you enjoy if you've been doing it for 7 years. she might be 18 but draws like a veteran illustrator because she is one.

[Anonymous No.3844021]

>>3844018
I have been drawing a lot for more than 7 years

[Anonymous No.3844025]

>>3844012
I haven't really made any grinding for the sake of grinding, I have always drawn things with a purpose.
Either way it doesn't matter now

[Anonymous No.3844031]

>>3844021
>>3844025
what does your study routine look like?

[Anonymous No.3844036]

>>3844031
I have personal projects, I make sketches for those projects and take what I like and do some research to refine them into a better picture. That's really all. I have improved a lot in these years, I have taken courses etc., my improvement was good considering I started so late. It's just that I'll never catch up to these people, it's just too late for me. I haven't built an audience at all and I'm so old, I simply can't go on like this. This whole art career dream is just delusional.

[Anonymous No.3844051]

>>3837695
artistic choice, buddyo

[Anonymous No.3844052]

Im also 17 and this is a wip i'm doing ( inspired by one of the images in this thread ) as you can see this person is way better than me. Does it hurt? Yes. But i'm not giving up my dream and let someone outclass me this bad, you know what i'm saying? Don't give up your dreams. Also stop watching porn.

[Anonymous No.3844057]

>>3844036
if you shitpost on an imageboard, it's highly unlikely you're over 30. have you ever seen yasuo otsuka's joy in motion anon? it's really worth watching if you're having these kinds of doubts in yourself. art isn't like a sport or something where you have your prime years and then just go downhill from there, it's something you build over a lifetime and it just keeps getting better the longer you go on. but you do really have to think about the long game and cultivate learning into lifestyle you can happily sustain instead of just frantically grinding to git gud while you become more and more miserable and resentful of yourself. your process sounds pretty good but there are still a lot of areas you could be handling inefficiently. recently i've been painting in 32 15 minute intervals with breaks in between and it's made to whole process much more focused and decisive. treating everything like a speedpainting has actually made it a lot easier to make good decisions.
>I'll never catch up to these people/I haven't built an audience at all
do you paint for other people or do you paint for yourself? as far as an audience is concerned, you don't really need one to have a good career. just work on building a healthy client base & it wont matter if anyone has even heard of you.

[Anonymous No.3844058]

>>3841764
I dont feel bad about your suicide fuel because I dont like her art.

[Anonymous No.3844078]

>>3844052
You'd actually be a lot closer if you just kept the perspective simpler and more consistent. they're kind of rotated around a barrel animal crossing style erratically at the moment.

[Anonymous No.3844082]

OP pic is done in near-isometric perspective, like pic related. makes things a little easier, fun to play around with

[Anonymous No.3844088]

>>3844052
This site is 18+ you zoomer scum. Fucking kinds, thinking they know shit.

[Anonymous No.3844089]

>>3844078
I screwed the perspective a bit but i'll see what i can do. When i finish the page, i'll post here

[Anonymous No.3844093]

>>3844088
Hey no need to be hostile, i mean no harm. Also i'm almost 18, so..

[Anonymous No.3844095]

>>3844088
ur mums 18+

[Anonymous No.3844104]

>>3844012
>>She seems to draw even when she goes out to eat with people
>and you should too.
It's beautiful dedication but I don't know if you should. Unless your friends are drawfags or you can multitask af, you should be present in the moment, otherwise it's the same as people that are on their smartphone all the fucking time.

[Anonymous No.3844109]

>>3844088
Wow, who stole your lunch?

[Anonymous No.3844113]

>>3844104
>Unless your friends

[Anonymous No.3844135]

>>3844113
There there, it's gonna be ok /a/non, you can still make friends, I evolved socially very, very late, when I thought all hope was lost.

[Anonymous No.3844142]

Where's her finished work lol

[Anonymous No.3844165]

>>3844057
I haven't drawn anything since I saw this stupid thread. I just hope my depression won't relapse in full and I'll completely quit drawing again.

[Anonymous No.3844189]

>>3844165
Go draw a circle now.
Or just let your hand draw whatever.

[Anonymous No.3844929]

>>3844113
It's ok I'm the same as you