If learning to draw is so special then why are Korean animators doing it for cheap?

[Anonymous No.3829774]

You all think being able to draw is something only super special and talented people can do.

And yet there is a sweatshop in korea/china/Japan cheap doing it super cheap with lots of workers...

They animate literally all your favorite anime and cartoons, and they all do hundreds of drawings to animate frames of animation.

Seems like drawing is actually a super cheap skill.

[Anonymous No.3829776]

>>3829774
Stop

[Anonymous No.3829777]

The east treats it as a viable job that actually can be done with work whereas the west promotes talent and the 1%.

[Anonymous No.3829779]

>>3829777
but sweatshop animators do a good job. We wouldn't have good shows without them.

[Anonymous No.3829781]

>>3829779
I didn't say they didn't do a good job. I'm saying that it's only special to learn to draw in the west and that it's not for the east. You have a western line of thinking.

[Anonymous No.3829782]

>>3829781
Oh I get it. I agree anon, you make a good point.

[Anonymous No.3829795]

>>3829776
no.

[Anonymous No.3829844]

Inb4 triggered talent fags

[Anonymous No.3829853]

>>3829774
Nice bait.

Now, if we talk about it seriously, no, drawing in itself isn't special, little kids learn to draw early one, and learning basic drawing skills is just that - a skill.

"Art", is a completely different thing.

And, the sweatshop animators in Korea aren't creating the characters, scripts, and are mostly tweening. The lead animators make the key frames. It's grunt work.

[Anonymous No.3829879]

>>3829853
>little kids learn to draw

[Anonymous No.3829880]

>>3829853

Fan art fags don’t design shit either.

Swatshop animars can draw the in betweens just fine and with quality.

[Anonymous No.3829881]

the real question is. do you think youre special for learning to draw?

[Anonymous No.3829882]

>>3829774
>tfw no super asian drawing genes

[Anonymous No.3829884]

>>3829882
if you were asian youd be the same lazy bastard but with smaller eyes.

[Anonymous No.3829901]

>>3829884
This

[Anonymous No.3830158]

>>3829774
>Korea
bump

[Anonymous No.3830180]

East Asian culture is big on instilling discipline in young people.

[Anonymous No.3830200]

>>3829774
one of these guys actually posted here a while ago. they dont draw the way we do. he said that basically all they do is mechanically trace a new frame on top of a previous one with light boxes. they dont learn about the basics of animation or what makes animation good and there is a ton of reworking in these kind of sweatshops when the work ends up too stiff or just shit. go read pyongyang by guy delisle. its not centered on the trade side of the story but you get an idea of how these kind of places work.

[Anonymous No.3830249]

>>3830200
Why do they still work traditionally?

[Anonymous No.3830257]

>>3830249
Digital would be too expensive for those sweatshops, never mind them just stealing it outright.

[Anonymous No.3830285]

>>3830200
Someone must be competent for it to work, otherwise they couldn't trace over nothing.

[Anonymous No.3830289]

>>3830200
He also said that from tracing so much, he actually got good at drawing.

[Anonymous No.3830317]

>>3830289
Tracing is the art hack /ic/ is looking for but is to afraid to use.

https://youtu.be/Yz66OF_wblg

[Anonymous No.3830319]

>>3830317
He did also mention completely fucking up his hands from having to trace/draw so much. Pros and cons, you weigh them.

[Anonymous No.3830337]

>>3830319
I think a lot of artists end up fucking up their hands, elbows, shoulders, backs, etc. in some way from just drawing a lot. At least that is what my Twitter timeline leads me to believe.

But you are right, there are pros and cons to everything.

[Anonymous No.3830361]

>>3830289
yeah I call bullshit on that guy being legit.

[Anonymous No.3830375]

>>3830361
He did post an image to prove his legitimacy. He drew some anime character.

[Anonymous No.3830571]

>>3830361
Why would that not make someone legit? There is using tracing as tool, and then there is relying on it.

[Anonymous No.3830724]

Formerly Japan

[Anonymous No.3830764]

>>3829774
Culture is different in East Asia is different to the west
Repeated work and memorization = good
Freedom to express oneself = bad

Also quantity vs quality - the average cartoon or "anime" is just repeated drawings of the same poses, with maybe a few unique frames per episode.
You copy and paste backgrounds/characters all the time.

Look at Simpsons, etc. 30 years and the designs stay the same because they're just copy and pasted and easy to draw from muscle memory.

The west tends to value more individual pieces and creators - the east tends to go with "repeated work makes good work > unique work is bad"

[Anonymous No.3830791]

>>3829774

[Anonymous No.3831236]

>>3830791
lol

[Anonymous No.3831247]

>>3830319

Dude i'm working as a storyboarder and it's already happening to me.

[Anonymous No.3831248]

>>3830791
where is this from?

[Anonymous No.3831260]

>>3831247
post your work.

[Anonymous No.3831264]

>>3830791

Historically art has always been a craft. The whole idea of being a free spirited "artiste" is a recent invention

[Anonymous No.3831265]

>>3831264
Seriously, it’s ridiculous. It’s like we went backwards in time to netherandals. How has the east managed to keep it a craft, but also maintain the social stigma of art being lowly but America for example, is completely against it aside from teaching it and promoting in education despite the careers?

[Anonymous No.3831333]

>>3831260

Don't think my employer would be too happy about that.

[Anonymous No.3831341]

>>3831248
Search for "Mike Judge on the Best of Howard Stern."

[Anonymous No.3831358]

>>3831264
>Historically art has always been a craft

I feel it still is. The ridiculous "craft cannot be art" idea is only pushed by the most snobbish elements within modern art and the talentless who have scammed their way through academia. Craft is function, and even modern art has one: to line the pockets of art galleries with money from patrons who enjoy wafting through their collective pretentiousness more than anything.

Only a handful of modern artists reach any acclaim, and an even smaller subset of those make a living. Meanwhile millions of artist-craftspersons have a career making movies, designing products, as well as creating fine art.

[Anonymous No.3831373]

>>3831341

[Anonymous No.3831485]

>>3829774
Because asian entertainment industry is fucking jewish honestly, arguably even more so than the actual jews
It also doesn't help that, unlike the westerners, they also have a culture that encourages people to act like a doormat to their seniors/superiors. Even if you feel you're being treated unfairly, there's not much you can do because going against your higher-ups is seen as socially unacceptable, leading to them just keep treating their workers like slaves

[Anonymous No.3831526]

>>3831358
This

[Anonymous No.3831592]

>anime
>art
one step above stick figure battles on notepads

[Anonymous No.3833684]

>>3830249
>>3830257
Traditional pencil also just looks better. Color is usually done digitally though.

[Anonymous No.3834540]

>>3829774
Drawing isnt special. If you can have abstract thoughts and you can grab a pencil (even with your mouth) you can draw. Every human that doesn’t have a severe disability can be an artist.

People like to think of results as talent so they can have a convenient excuse for not improving or trying themselves.

[Anonymous No.3834773]

>>3831264
No it's not lol