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3828955 No.3828955 [Reply] [Original]

Painting is easy, just put the brush on the canvas.

Post your traditional art here.

>> No.3828958
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>>3828955
here's some sketches of the same model

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>>3828955
good thread idea (OP)

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>>3828981

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>>3828985
12x12 recent painting

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Couple tiny oil paintings, second time working with oils so I kinda just winged it

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Another one, this one is acryl gouache on watercolor paper.

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>>3828995
A quick watercolor from last month or around there. been doing more digital lately so I'm running out of my images.

>> No.3829006

>>3828998
i like the icy oceany looking one.

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>>3828955
It would be very helpful if everyone stated what kind of ref they used. pic related, none obv.

>> No.3829055

>>3829003
no ref
>>3828981
no ref but random ork pics
>>3828985
dont remember what this was from but its in the book thread.

>> No.3829056

Traditional is for unemployed losers, digital will always be superior.

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>>3828955
Last painting I finished since getting a cat. I've had to move my entire workspace.

>> No.3829058

>>3828958
How can you be so good at painting and so shit at drawing?

>> No.3829062

>>3829058
Drawing and Painting are two different skills

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>>3828998
No references used for these 2

>>3829000
Pic related is what I based the gouache one on, found on Pinterest

>>3829006
Thanks!

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I’ve come a lot further on this, starting on the figures. Planning to add lots of flowers.

>> No.3829103

>>3829097
is this brian? that castle is popping out of the canvas. very good.

>> No.3829104

>>3829088
>no ref
Good job. realistic work made from photo ref should have a disclaimer imo.

>> No.3829119

>>3829104
Thank you, and I agree 100%, I do my best to always mention it or even include the reference if I can, I just got lazy this time.

>> No.3829212
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A side study for a thing I’m working.

>> No.3829225

>>3829212
>>3829043
An old book I got several years ago.
Obviously sketched out fast with no regard for perspective or anything. I’m looking at how to get a texture I think might work.
Conte crayon, Generals charcoal stick, pencils, and a little pastel.

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>>3828955
going out again today to do some land scaping paints
feels good living near the beach

>> No.3829246

>>3829241
I’d probably only paint the ocean!

>> No.3829337
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oils, from photo ref kinda, it doesnt look much like the person

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>>3829246
yes the ocean is great, but for some reason I love the dunes

>> No.3829365

>>3829241
that ocean looks pretty wack.
you should look for another alternative to plain ultramarine blue

>> No.3829481
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3829481

i have no idea what im doing. but i enjoy painting so i got a portable tripod thing and some canvascardbord today and im going to go out and paint some hills and ponds and shit near where i live. if i do this every day, maybe in a few decades ill get good.

>> No.3829603

>>3829337
good values, her neck is way too long though.

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oh i also did this thing. i know it doesent make much sense. its from imagination and im /beg.

>> No.3829723

>>3829481
There is another way:)
About 7 months ago I did the same thing you are doing and then posted my results here.
An anon told me I’d be better off laying down my paint and concentrating on drawing for a year.
I eventually realized he/she was right and did just that. 7months in I have learned so much and still am needing to learn much but I am actually closer to my goal of being a painter. And an added bonus: I have started to really love drawing.
Before, drawing intimidated me, but now it’s just a challenge I can’t wait to get home from work to embrace.

I am about beside myself in anticipation for the time (this spring/summer) that I have a well drawn out drawing that, once transferred to my painting surface, I get to paint with all the knowledge I gained from drawing.
Do it man. Learn to draw. It will be frustrating at first but once you start figuring things out, it starts becoming so much fun.

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>>3829723
thanks for the tip. at the moment i have a semester "off" so i have some time. i do some drawing every day and have for over a month, and have learnt perspective and a few basics at uni. pic related is the level im at. 1/3

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2/3

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3/3

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>>3829365
it was that colour that day i'm not good at painting but my colours match the ocean of that day

>> No.3829794

>>3828995
I love this anon

>> No.3829834

>>3829747
I love this, magyar bro

>> No.3829860
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finished this for now

>> No.3829887

>>3829860
If you feel it's finished, then it's finished, but if you want, take a look at your values. Convert this to greyscale. Your values are the same in the background, in the sky, and in the foreground, in the water, and it's creating a visual band that overpowers the focus of the painting, in the mid-ground. The mid-ground is basically a void, visually, and the eye is drawn to the water, not the figure.

I get that you chose a pin-up type pose to paint, and made up a random background for it. It doesn't really work, because you have a stylized cartoony environment, and a semi-realistic style for the figure. The juxtaposition is jarring, and I feel makes the painting as a whole lesser than it's parts.

>> No.3829914

>>3829212
I'm liking this.Just a tip from experience is that better perspective can make it easier to get the "feel" of the book and it will turn out better overall.

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>>3829887
I made the contrasts less stark, and mixed things more towards the middle, and enhanced some of the highlights on the figure

>> No.3829933

>>3829915
i like it alot

>> No.3829948
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>>3829914
Hey thank anon. This is the perspective drawing that I’m going to apply that practice to. Yeah I’m counting on the perspective and some reflected light and some shadow to really make things look good. Thanks again.

>> No.3830027
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Picture I painted oil on 11x14 canvas. It was for an art class. We had to do a painting of a "view outside a window." I had my paints and stuff set up in my basement so I just painted the view I had of the basement window. I spent about 3 hours on it. I forgot it was due that night lol. Originally we had a week to work on it but I forgot about it until the last minute.

>> No.3830062

>>3830027
looks like some perspective-y nonsense going on where the tire well goes behind the pipe

>> No.3830157

>>3830062
Yea it was a rush job but I was happy with it overall.

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did more to this

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did more to this

>> No.3830274

>>3828995
great use of colour the shadow at the bottom has a beautiful deep, cold aspect to it.

>> No.3830407

Are colored pencils a good way to learn color if you've never used color before?

>> No.3830430
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>>3830407
Yes they are. Here's a link to a free ebook about learning to use colored pencils.

http://www.ebook777.com/basic-colored-pencil-techniques/

>I always liked to draw using colored pencil. Nevertheless, I never found any interesting book that would deal with several approaches to the colored pencil medium. After reading about Mrs. Borgeson work, I decided to try and never got disapointed. Her books (all of them) give you several different points of view about the colored pencil and teaches you (step by step) how to apply the techiniques to solve apparently simple problems. Layering, lifting, color interactions, error corrections, light and much more. A nice book to have and enjoy.
Easy-to-follow demonstrations show you how to use colored pencils to paint trees, flowers, animals, people and other popular subjects. The colored pencil is an easy-to-use, inexpensive and incredibly expressive medium. And nobody is more skilled with the pencil than Bet Borgeson. Using many visual examples to illustrate her points, Bet will teach you how to use layering, burnishing, lifting color and other basic colored pencil techniques to create an exciting range of effects-from highly detailed realism to loose, luscious color. She also offers advice on choosing the right materials, conveying textures, layering in backgrounds, and combining colored pencil with other mediums.

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69 GTO "The Judge" pastels

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I redrew the book closer to what’s going to be in this thing.

>> No.3830820

>>3830027
the colors are dumb accurate tho

>> No.3831072

>>3830027
Great job!

>> No.3831185

>>3830646
Awesome. You can almost feel the texture of the binding

>> No.3831187

>>3831072
Thanks a lot!

>> No.3831270
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here's this so far

>> No.3831277

>>3831270
Looks good. Really cool technique

>> No.3831302

>>3831270
i hope you don't go full illustrat on the background like you usually do on this one

>> No.3831330

>>3831270
your hands look like complete garbage

>> No.3831465

>>3831330
Those aren't my hands

>> No.3831466

>>3828955
I want to fuck that arm pit.

>> No.3831540

>>3831466
Thanks

>> No.3831562

>>3831270
Do her hands really look like that?

>> No.3831564

>>3831185
Cool man thanks.

>> No.3831588

What kind of traditional medium gets vibrant opaque colors like digital art?

>> No.3831615

>>3829915
Thats way better, great job

>> No.3831625
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>>3831588
gouache, markers, and watercolors are usually what digital artists use.


Here's a pencil portrait I did tonight

>> No.3831644

>>3831625
I don't want to draw digital, and watercolor isn't very opaque

>> No.3831649

>>3831644
Sargents watercolors were pretty opaque. Most academic forms of watercolor work pretty opaquely, and are incredibly drawing based as opposed to the more watery washy looks you usually see in avant garde artists. Maybe soft pastels are what you're looking for? They take much longer to master than the other things I've mentioned and are much more of an investment but the crispness and color you can get out of pastels is really striking. Just make sure you're in a well ventilated room because pastel dust is poisonous

>> No.3831674

>>3831649
I need something that's not super expensive and can be used without making paper turn into mush. I'm fine in taking an investment of a particular medium if it provides crisp colors.

>> No.3831679

>>3831674
Watercolor is the cheapest thing you can reach for, gouache a little more, markers more, pastels the most, with each providing more opaque color than the last, and increasing in difficulty curve. So maybe gouache is what you should try

>> No.3831682

>>3831679
Thanks

>> No.3831692

>>3831679
>gouache less opaque than markers

>> No.3831693

>>3831692
gouache is easy mode though, markers not so much, and markers cost a shit load

>> No.3831834

>>3831679
I love how you think that watercolor is easy.

>> No.3831891
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I did this digitally but I want to paint it with oil on canvas. I want to start digitally and finish it on canvas because it's easier to make changes on pc. But I dont know how to create textures with oils.? It blends more than i like when i lay down paint over another.

>> No.3831896

>>3831590
/beg/ are being shitlords and ignore me

>> No.3831938

>>3831891
Use thinner for very thin scrubby in initial colouring, the first 20 mins or so. Then use paint with no medium. I leave paint out on my palette all the time & only remove it when it dries too much as I'm tight AF, and I find you can get some nice textures like that in your pic if you use 'a bit dried out' paint.

>> No.3831940

>>3831891
>>3831938
Thinking about it, I paint alla prima mostly, but of course if you will be painting in layers then that should be easy. And come here to show us the result, anon!!

>> No.3831945

>>3831679
What's so difficult in pastels and what's so easy in watercolor?

>> No.3831947

>>3831938
Thanks. Will try it.
>>3831940
I also was planning to paint wet on wet

>> No.3832006

>>3831270
wew you'll never stop being bad. everyone pay attention, this is what happens when your ego inflates and you become a "muh style," you never improve. you've been critiqued over and over again for your poor proportions, awful hands, bad outlines, shit perspective, childish nonstudied backgrounds, etc etc. but you don't listen. you've become so obsessed with a painting technique and the fact that you went to a shit art school, making you believe you don't need to go back to studying. you don't draw through your drawings, no real studying at all. pathetic. >>3829337
ive seen your work before and it's always my favorite in these threads, good job dude, even if this one wasn't as good as the last few I saw (if those were you)

>> No.3832038

>>3831834
Isn't it?

>> No.3832042

>>3832038
Watercolor is the hardest painting to master. Unlike with oils and acrylics, you can only work in one direction and can't just cover up mistakes with another pass.

>> No.3832047

>>3832042
Is that why the only watercolor painting nowadays is avant-garde shit?

>> No.3832053

>>3832047
are you actually retarded or are you just pretending?

>> No.3832079

>>3831625
What's your palette for watercolours Brian?

>> No.3832160

>>3832079
Would probably just use Viridian, Yellow Ochre, Vermillion, and Cobalt Blue, but my watercolors are shit. I prefer oil pastels if I'm gonna use a color medium outside oils. But I'm not Mr. Moneybags so I stick with limited palette oil painting.

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>>3831945
It's considered painting in technical terms and you can tell by looking at accomplished pastel artists why it's not drawing. Goache, watercolor, and markers are drawing mediums which is what leads digital artists to gravitate towards them. There's very little consideration for surface texture in them, while with pastels you can make things rough or soft.

>> No.3832172

>>3832166
Compare that with watercolors, it is obviously still a difficult medium, but it's very performative as in Sargents work where he knew what he was gonna make and it was purely down to execution in drawing ability. Sure there's some texture but that's achieved by pressure of application, not any particular unique technique. Pastel has a lot of varied techniques that need to be utilized to achieve certain effects, as is the case with painting with other mediums.

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>>3832172
Whoops forgot picture

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>>3831947
The dry brush effect of Seago might work. I'm on my other computer now so can post a pic to illustrate when I meant by 'dried up paint' look.

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>>3832174
The trouble is, virtually no-one can make w/c work. A handful of people can pull of a picture like this. To achieve anything approaching this skill in an opaque medium is far more likely.
One of the artists I like these days if Votsmusch.

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>>3832201
Excuse my spelling mistakes. Gah.
Opp end of spectrum, I admire Ian Sidaway's work. Very graphic. more patience than I could ever muster, but his plein air work is beautiful. See pic related.
http://iansidawaystudio.blogspot.com/

>> No.3832227

Why is good colored pencil art so rare?

>> No.3832230

>>3832201
There are lots of watercolorists who do great work, just artists who learned the medium and work in it. You aren't supposed to paint opaquely with watercolors, that's not how they should be used. I still think that pastels are easier than watercolors, but it's not like an ordinary painter who learns watercolors for a few years can't make them "work".

>>3832166
I don't get your point. Yeah there are a lot of techniques in pastels, but there are even more techniques in digital painting, is digital painting even more difficult? No. Watercolor painting has a lot of techniques too. The whole "painting vs drawing mediums" thing is just arbitrary, how do you define either thing?

>>3832227
Because drawing with them is pretty tedious.

>> No.3832231

>>3832227
same reason good Crayons drawings art
paint is just usually better for everything

>> No.3832234

>>3832231
>same reason good Crayons drawings art
I don't see why people can't explore using it at least

>> No.3832238
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>>3832231
You take that back. Rembrandt's crayon drawings are dope.

>> No.3832239

>>3832234
they do

>>3832238
never said they werent but they were almost always used for convenience or as an underdrawing or study for a painting

>> No.3832241

>>3832238
Isn't that sanguine?

>> No.3832244

>>3832239
But colored pencil is prettier

>> No.3832245

>>3832241
idk, I always see "crayon" listed as the medium for a lot of Rembrandt drawings. Probably wasn't anything like the wax crayons we have today. Occasionally I buy a set of Crayola crayons thinking "SURELY THESE CANT JUST BE AWFUL RIGHT?" and they most assuredly are everytime.

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>>3832006
is this copypasta?

I smoothed out the values on the shirt and made the fingers more defined with an outline, that's all im gonna do to this one. Gonna call it done. It's the same model in the same pose next week so I guess I'll just do a drawing.

>> No.3832337

>>3832245
Are colored pencils that bad, or just tedious?

>> No.3832348

>>3832337
they're fine, they're just limited in what they can do and kind of way too expensive for what you get.

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i tried experimenting with crayon and charcoal onto this

>> No.3832356

>>3832348
colored pencils are cheap

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>>3831644
Gouache will do the trick, it's opaque (as long as you use the right consistency), dries to a matte look, and the colors can be as vibrant or muted as you need them to be. Pic related are a couple acrylic gouache paintings I made recently.

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>>3832205
I've been on a plein air kick recently so I'm glad you shared this, very nice stuff. I'm personally a big fan of Marc Taro Holmes' old watercolor stuff (he switched to oils recently), pic related.

I love how loose but detailed his work looks, and the how varied his colors are.

He's moved to Instagram since switching to oils, but his watercolor stuff is still on his old blog http://citizensketcher.com

>> No.3832546

>>3832337
They're fine, the only problem with them is the amount of work and time you'll have to put in. Look through the book on colored pencils posted above, most of it is just tricks to save time.

>> No.3832548

>>3831588
Oils, acrylics, gouache, markers.

>> No.3832629

>>3832546
I don't mind the amount of time and work

>> No.3832728

>>3832629
It's tedious and boring as hell. I'd rather use gouache or watercolor and be done in a few hours with an idea than polish turds for days on end. Most colored pencil work you'll see is photocopies or still life. I value my time and don't want to spend what little I have on one piece.

>> No.3832737
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A painting I finished a few months ago.

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Screen printing counts as trad, right?
Pic related is from a set I did a few months back

>> No.3833191

>>3832728
I can relate to this. I enjoy colored pencils but on large areas I always lay down a pastel base. Especially backgrounds. But I prefer just using pastels and pastel pencils for minute details.

>> No.3833197

>>3832260
probably not
take the critique and move on

>> No.3833224

>>3832230
>. You aren't supposed to paint opaquely with watercolors, that's not how they should be used
Wrong
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolf_von_Alt

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>>3833224

Indeed. And Turner obviously. Here is a sketch showing use of white bodycolour.

>> No.3833721

>>3833599
Fuck turner. How's this even possible.

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>>3828955
Current WIP 2'x2' oil on birch

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Mmm some peppers I painted in oil

>> No.3834920
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Gouache self portrait

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WIP. Acrylic on canvas(36x36).
Going for a Warhol-meets-Nagel look

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my first atempt at a plein air. small farm and hut in börzsöny. im a beg when it comes to (oil)painting. what is wtong with it and what, if anything is good?

>> No.3835021

Good stuff in this thread. Trads are actually doing much better than most of ic

>> No.3835027

>>3834920
Would become 50% better if you work on your edges. Some edges are too sharp like the hair line and the lower lip transition to shadow. Some are too soft which creates over modeling. Good work though.

>> No.3835047

>>3828998
cute!

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>>3830027
preddy dope

>> No.3835095

>>3835094
i was hoping you'd overdosed
well theres always tomorrow

>> No.3835365

>>3835018
look up some youtube artists of plein air that you like. james gurney does a lot with with casein/gouache/watercolor more than oils but there are also a lot of oil painters. there might be some landscape books you'd want to check out too. check out jack hamm's landscape book which is secretly a composition book.

focus more on shapes of the painting and separation of light and shadow. don't worry so much about detail of brushwork yet. so much of the painting is the same value with little contrast, no focal points to draw your eye to other than some of the white in the huts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frGJEjKff7Y&t=2m40s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vf7GsjNTA4Q&t=2m43s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6entBxoFGA

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>>3834606 i like the peppers looks very real

Oil painting im working on about 6 layers of paint applied critiques please

>> No.3835958

>>3835021
>more willing to spend time and money
>somehow better

>> No.3836181

>>3835365
thx ill check them out. honestly im still struggleing getting my brushes to do what i actually want them to. aplying the color i mixed. in all these painting videos thy put down a layr of paint and than paint over it like its nothing. if i try that the paints will mix on the canvas and i dont get the desitrd colour. or anything but a mess sometimes.

>> No.3836183

>>3835952
I like it, but why are the horses so relaxed?

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>>3835095
>implying I haven't been sober the entire thyme and it wasn't all just an elaborate goof

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Brian, post your palette board or how you arrange colours. Also, have you ever worked in grisaille or sought to accomplish a different value scale?

>> No.3836387

>>3832737
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still me still a /beg retard and this is my second plein air. so other rhan the fact that i cut off the bottom half of the composition caus im a fucking idiot, what can you tell me about it?

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ps i also dropped a role of tape on it at one point

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>>3836322
heres my palette right now, im using mars black, yellow ochre, alizarin crimson, vermillion, and titanium white right now

>> No.3836687

>>3836583
what a mess

>> No.3836695

>>3835027
Really appreciated anon

>> No.3836771

>>3836181
it seems like you shouldn't be doing plein air then. you should be working on doing value studies at home, then when you can do that move on to color studies of still lifes. if you can't mix colors, plein air is a nightmare. if you can't get your brushes to do what you want, you'll never get the results until you practice more in a comfortable environment where it's ok to fail.

>> No.3837919

>>3836771
i do that too. i just like going outside. there is a lot of cool shit where i live. i dont get this study thing though. i never studied colour theory. i get warm/cold and saturated/not but thats about it. how do i do a value study? btw i dont realy speek propper english so maybe i just dont know that word.

>> No.3837930

>>3836583
Okay now lemme see some brushes

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>>3836583
FGS man, where is your mixing space? I only have a tiny pochade box unless I set up a glass palette for larger paintings, but I still have a useable area...

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>>3837956
most of it is usable, all that yellow is dry I just need to scrape it off (It was shit paint that dried too fast so I ended up using a ton of it) and the rest of it is all dry, and usually when I paint I have three pools for blue, red, and yellow, that take up very little space, and I mix things up and down into greens, purples, blacks, and oranges. It helps that I generally paint very thin too, so often when I use an area of it I can re-use it in the same painting session before it's even fully dry.

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todays practice. something like 12 x 5 cm.
i know, i know /beg and all that. are there any good tutorials on use and mixing of colour?
1/2

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2/2
also any comments on whats shit about it and how to do better are wellcome ofcourse

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>>3838026
>>3837956
>not just using a single schlop pile and mixing in progressively lighter tones and colors as you go in a chaotic layering process

>> No.3838764

>>3838178
Are you trying to paint realistically? Because this is more cartoon than realistic.

LOOK at the shapes, volumes, colors, and values. You're painting what you think is there, not what really is there. Look at the contours of the objects.

I give you full credit for getting out there and trying - it's absolutely the best thing to do. You just need to work on training your eye and hand to capture what's there, not what you think is there, and it's a common issue for people starting out. And take your time. You won't master this overnight, keep trying, and be more critical when looking at the landscape, to see what's there, and how to capture it on canvas. Like someone else said before in the thread, stick to bigger block shapes, but get them accurate, and learn to capture the actual values and hues. Look for the darkest values, and the lightest. Block out the tree and the foliage as a block shape, to capture the contour, and then use darker values to indicate the volume - don't worry about individual leaves, go for the clumps and overall volumes.

Again - you're out there doing it. Keep going.

>> No.3838768

>>3838733
No one wants to paint like you jimmy so don’t bother posting your process.

>> No.3838778

>>3837919
A value study is a grayscale study of a scene, where you use black for your darkest darks (deep shadows), white for highlights (sky, really bright areas), and gray for everything else. You can use up to 2-3 shades of gray in addition to black and white, for a total of 5 values, but black white and gray are more than enough, and probably a better choice for your first few attempts.

You shouldn't focus on details at all, only on major shapes and masses. If you're doing a value study of a tree for example, you'd use gray to paint the general shape of the tree, then add some black where the main biggest shadow is. You generally won't even need white since sunlight hitting a tree generally won't look that bright, and again, you aren't aiming for complete accuracy, you're just trying to capture the main values of the scene.

You can do a value study from life, from a photo reference, and you can even turn a photo reference into a black and white picture (just desaturate it in any photo editing program/app) to make things easier.

There's lots of YouTube videos on this, just search value study, how to value study, landscape value study, environment value study, or anything along those lines

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tried a figure drawing today. 3 hours

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>>3838768
you should reflect on your negative attitude

>> No.3838967

>>3838803
Getting better dude.

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>>3838764
so basicly forget about details and pay attention to values instead. stick to blocking that in while im still absolte /beg. that seems like a good idea. ill try that tomorrow. for now here are todays practice paintings. these are all tiny.
1/3

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>>3838778
this value study thing sounds like fun. ill probably try that tomorrow too. 2/3

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slightly less tiny but still quite small. 3/3

>> No.3839476

>>3839462
Not bad but what are the dimensions and what brushes do you rock?

Does anyone have advice on palette cups? I had a Richeson cup for turpentine but it kept leaking. I want something more reliable. Thinking of Artist's Loft brand ?

>> No.3839509

>>3839476
thanks. its somewhere around 20 x 12 cm (8 x 5ish inches) and i used a flat 0.5 cm (0.2 inch) wide brush.

as for palet cups, whats wrong with a glass jam jar? or salsa jar. those are flatter.

>> No.3839516

oh and the first two are around 5 x 5 (2 x 2 inch)

>> No.3839788

>>3838803
Pretty solid work there.

>> No.3839789

>>3839457
You got it. Keep going.

>> No.3839801

>>3839476
I have a bunch of these, that I've collected over the years. Cheap, work great, don't spill, and the ones with caps are great for storing glazes and such.

https://www.jerrysartarama.com/palette-cups?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIqIDTn8ju4AIVXZ7ACh1b2ACdEAQYASABEgIm4PD_BwE

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I dun goofed the legs up in the last session

>> No.3841169

>>3839861
this is weird as fuck. i realy like it.

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todays prctice. im having a shitload of fun with these little paintings. 10 x 12 cm.
1/2

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my terpentine muddyes my colours unless its new and totally clean. what am i doing wrong?
2/2

>> No.3841195

>>3832349
her left tit is levitating

>> No.3841252

>>3838026
I'd like to see what finer brushes you use. I can never find useful 1s and 2s. I've collected sable, impressionist and synthetic but hog hair brushes are hardest to select.