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[Anonymous No.3826265]

Do you visualize the drawing actually on the paper before putting a mark down with the pencil?

[Anonymous No.3826275]

>>3826265
no. I visualize it in my mind, but trying to overlay my mind visualization with the paper feel like a very bad shaky parallex problem, so I treat drawing more like drawing from ref, just that the ref is in my mind

[Anonymous No.3826281]

>>3826265
I usually scribble out the raw shapes I have in my mind then define the ones I want with slightly darker pencil lines, ain't too crazy. This works too if you are without an idea, scribbling random shapes down until you spot something in there and darkening over it.

[Anonymous No.3826292]

My problem is when I try to visualize something, I can't actually see it with my eyes. It's just an idea of what someone or something looks like. I don't know what that's called but that's my biggest issue with drawing from memory.

[Anonymous No.3826307]

>>3826265
if I want to have good(not total shit) results yes
but it's not easy, requires fair bit of practice and concentration, sort of like singing when you sing in a choir, you need to keep your melodic line in mind and follow it despite what you hear from the others

[Anonymous No.3826308]

Funny I was just about to make a thread about this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8paXptpflE
Bernie Wrightson talks about it here, and says he has the image fully done in his mind and simply "projects' it onto the page

As a side note, while his plates in Frankenstein are incredible, I feel the comic he did "Frankenstein: Alive, Alive!" is severly underrated

[Anonymous No.3826325]

>>3826308
Fucking collective unconscious, dude. I'll check him out.
>>3826307
>but it's not easy, requires fair bit of practice and concentration
I know, man. I'm actively trying to see it on the paper and I can't focus for more than 5 minutes because of brain fatigue or something lol

[Anonymous No.3826344]

I tried yesterday to draw my mom but i couldn't visualise her face. I can't even see her eyes. Is it possible to change that like doing exercices to train my brain?

[Anonymous No.3827783]

>>3826265
I try to ,but it doesn't work for me. Categorizing ideas works far better for me. Drawing from reference and categorizing into words poses, clothing, accesoires, expression, etc. Before I start the drawing I recall the categories from memory and fill in the gaps with experience. The more things I categorize before starting the better visualization becomes. I also google reference images. Drawing from imagination alone is a fucking meme. Use reference.

[Anonymous No.3827784]

>>3826344
Weird, I can visualise her just fine

[Anonymous No.3829440]

>>3826292
aphantasia

[Anonymous No.3829919]

>>3829440
>aphantasia
Wow, I didn't know this was actually a thing. So most people can actually SEE images they're trying to visualize? My mind is blown right now.

[Anonymous No.3829936]

>>3829919
Its an acquired skill. Actual aphantasia is not common

[Anonymous No.3830051]

>>3829936
Oh, right. I was confused. So what do you call people who can visualize things as if they were seeing them with their actual eyes?

[Anonymous No.3830068]

>>3830051
noting because that's not a real thing, what you think people visual is exactly how you visualize things. They just trained is more, like you can

[Anonymous No.3830177]

>>3830051
Found the term for it: closed-eye hallucinations.

[Anonymous No.3830763]

I feel like mental sounds are easier to produce than mental imagery. When I'm recalling a song in my head, it's almost as if I'm actually hearing it. My ability to visualize is much weaker. Strange.

[Anonymous No.3830797]

To some degree yes, but mileagereally comes into play. And I think you should try your best either way. You can figure it out while doing a rough sketch and clean it up later. You need to at least have a gesture down imo

[Anonymous No.3830799]

>>3826292
People can’t project shit into their visual field you retard. It’s called the ‘minds eye’ for a reason, it’s a different thing.

[Anonymous No.3830808]

>>3830799
>People can’t project shit into their visual field you retard. It’s called the ‘minds eye’ for a reason, it’s a different thing.
Rude. But there are a handful of people who claim they can project images on the back of their eyelids as if they're physically see them. Obviously that would be extremely powerful for an artist.

[Anonymous No.3830921]

so this is like shadow boxing but for drawing?

[Anonymous No.3830927]

>>3826265
only basic primitives they are comprised from in space, rarely step further with overlapping organic forms.
I'm not even sure if it helps... barely I guess. the best drawings I did were when I didn't invoke images in my mind at all and just went with the flow.

[Anonymous No.3833263]

>>3826265
I don't always, but I've found my drawings generally turn out better if I have well thought out idea of what I want beforehand.
For me it's the difference between just doodling and starting a piece with the intention of finalizing.

[Anonymous No.3833298]

>>3826265
I draw
Visualize what I should have done
Then draw again
Then visualize what I REALLY should have drawn
Draw again
Repeat ad nauseam

[Anonymous No.3833327]

>>3826265
Yes. Visualization is part of the process. That's what sketching and studies are for, to help you visualize what the final will be. Did you think the masters stood in front of a blank canvas, not knowing what it would end up as?

[Anonymous No.3833346]

Been doing it all day yesterday but I keep forgetting to during.

[Anonymous No.3834033]

>>3826265
Do you even Keys to Drawing? Chicken-scratching actually helps visualization on paper.

Look at how Travis Charest draws his stuff on YT.

[Anonymous No.3834911]

>>3834033
>Do you even Keys to Drawing?
His drawings are terrible. Why would I take drawing tips from a bad artist?

[Anonymous No.3835394]

>>3830799
Yes I can, it's not a literal hallucination but it sort of looks like an afterimage

[Anonymous No.3835757]

>>3835394
You're so fucking lucky. I can't visualize at all on demand, not even simple colors. I don't know how I'm going to make it

[Anonymous No.3835792]

>>3834033
I counter with Kim Jung Gi

[Anonymous No.3835930]

I think I have aphantasia. It's hard for me to visualize anything in my mind. Can someone who can explain to me if they can visualize these nuts in their mouth?

[Anonymous No.3835938]

>>3835930
pretty good

[Anonymous No.3836146]

The mind's eye is kind of crazy. It's really hard to describe.

[Anonymous No.3836811]

Some people claim to have cured aphantasia with psilocybin mushrooms.

[Anonymous No.3837288]

>>3836811
I had something really similar to synthesia on mushrooms so I believe it.

[Anonymous No.3837569]

When I sketch randomly, I have only a vague idea of what I want to draw. The pen and hand explore the undiscovered country of the blank paper,and I am surprised as anyone watching me about what appears. But then I draw bits again,and define the imagery until it is refined enough to be incorporated into the larger work.

[Anonymous No.3837742]

>>3826265
I've been really trying to, I just can't at all unless there's at least something on the paper to help me root myself