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We're all friends. Here's a safe space to let your /ic/ feelings out. Vent your artist frustration here. I'll start

I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO PERFECT THIS SIMPLE CLEAN CEL-SHADING STYLE FOR A LONG FUCKING TIME AND I THOUGHT I HAD BEEN MAKING GOOD PROGRESS WHEN I SAW SOMEONE POST PIC RELATED IN AN /A/ DRAWTHREAD AND IT'S JUST LEAGUES AHEAD OF MY WORK, LEAGUES AND LEAGUES

It's just like, what the hell have I been doing all this time?

>> No.3823281

>>3823279
I honestly want to see your work. I do enjoy cell shading.

>> No.3823288
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3823288

>>3823281

>> No.3823330

>>3823288
I've seen this posted before so forgive me if I'm a bit skeptical. Honestly everything anime including cell shading is simplified form. To do it properly you have to understand the shapes you are shading. From "your" pic on the right you still have issues simplifying form. It almost looks like you have studied individual parts but have trouble combining them. And if I was baited, meh.

>> No.3823331

>>3823330
All I did was trace a photo for the image on the right

>> No.3823335

>>3823331
Have you tried studying the fundies?

>> No.3823337

>>3823335
yeah i still do that, for that image though I just wanted a quick figure to practice cel-shading with

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3823340

>>3823288

>> No.3823342

>>3823340
don't make fun of me

>> No.3823343

I've been drawing on and off for about 15 years. After making ok progress (as I think) in the first 3 years I stopped drawing regularly and can't keep up consistent practice for more than a couple of months per year.

>> No.3823345

>>3823343
What's your current art look like?

>> No.3823353

I can't draw shit from imagination, the only thing i can do is draw from reference and using my shitty style to change the picture a bit. It's really starting to kill my motivation.

>> No.3823354

I’m really bitter about the fact that I’m offering commissions for a laughably cheap price while getting no commissioners (yes I am networking) while there are chibi artists selling their art for £100 and getting loads of clients. It’s one of those things where I realise that I just haven’t reached a big enough following yet and I just need to get myself out there more but I still can’t help being salty.

>> No.3823355

>>3823345
Can't show anythyng currently. It's slightly above total beginner.

>> No.3823356

>>3823354
Me too. I was even offering full-color, full-figure illustrations with backgrounds and detail for literally $5 on fiverr.

>> No.3823357

>>3823288
yikes. inb4 20 replies
next time in order to avoid derailing your own thread, try to avoid posting images like these

>> No.3823360
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3823360

AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH WHY AM I SO LAZY AND I CAN'T STUDY PROPERLY FUUUUUUUUUUUCK I WANNA GET GOOOOOOODD

>> No.3823362

>>3823356
Awh dude :( I hope you get to a point where you can sell your work for the amount it truly deserves

>> No.3823364

>>3823354
Also because I used to get so much activity and support on my art back when Instagram had a chronological algorithm, but now get barely any. It’s especially annoying cause my art was really shit back when it was recognised, but now that I’ve massively improved nobody sees it.

>> No.3823371

>>3823331
Ok, makes sense. Sort of looks like some is traced, but the hand, and breast was done poorly giving it a disjointed look. Nothing wrong with tracing for practice; however it will never look right essentially pasting anime parts on a figure. Try from scratch.

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3823379

>>3823279
>what the hell have I been doing all this time?
>>3823288
not practicing actual anatomy and appealing proportions/shapes.

Look man, if you want to get good with anime stuff, it's almost 80% about getting good looking faces. I wanted to point out the huge difference in the facial proportions between the source art and yours. The eyes are too far apart, and the nose and mouth are too far away from the eyes to make "the cute", AND YOUR NECKS that shit doesnt look good in any dimension, brother.

don't even kid yourself with the "muh style". try to recreate styles you really enjoy almost 1:1 WITHOUT tracing first. It'll take a few months if you do it everyday. On paper and on digital. Don't be a fuckwit, and put in some constructive mileage.

>> No.3823380

>>3823342
It's not often that I run into someone that's worse than me so no, I am going to make fun of you. Left is shit but right look like a fucking goblin wearing a costume.

>> No.3823385

>>3823380
>worse than me
Not OP but I seriously doubt that, pyw

>> No.3823399

>>3823385
you are OP, its not hard to be better than (you)

>> No.3823402

>>3823399
nope
pyw

>> No.3823607

becoming good at art is one of my greatest desires yet I cant seem to put in the time to practice, I just lose all motivation and end up burning out within minutes. the more I try the more im starting to think that maybe art just isnt for me and that I should focus on something else

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3823615

>>3823288

>> No.3823631

>>3823607
Are you me? Only difference is when I actually sit down and do my studies I tend to do it until I've to do something else or go to sleep.

>> No.3823741
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3823741

I'm too tired to think
It feels like my body can barely function, my bones ache and my muscles are sore.
My face feels feverish and my eyes droop more everyday.
I can't think anymore

I'm atrophying purely from exhaustion, there's just too much work for me and absolutely no outlet besides art. I have no friends and my family barely speak to me.
I can spend weeks just going to lectures, studying and drawing at my apartment, which sounds comfy but the reality is that after almost 2 years of it my art has barely progressed while my social skills have severely regressed.


I hate the idea of working or dealing with people in general, people are cunts in general. Back-talking, lying, hypocritical, self-important cunts and they deserve no less than to have their fingers lopped off and eyes pulled out.

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3823746

>Got progressively worse during 4 hour practice session

>> No.3823750

>>3823288
Cel shading is the least of your worries

>> No.3823806

>>3823741
>I hate the idea of working or dealing with people in general, people are cunts in general. Back-talking, lying, hypocritical, self-important cunts and they deserve no less than to have their fingers lopped off and eyes pulled out.
I know, man. I know. I haven't had a friend in almost 10 years now. I used to have some close friends, but they all turned out to be jews in the end.

>> No.3823816

>>3823288
every time I hope this isn't a real guy

>> No.3823845

>>3823816
Oh it's a real guy. Did you think a robot was drawing and posting on here?

>> No.3823858

>>3823845
well I guess we have a new mikufag then I'll be waiting for that 10 years no progress progress pic

>> No.3823870

>any time I do something I can replicate, but can't explain why it looks good, I deny that I did something good and erase it
>it's even worse if I do something I can't replicate
>my rendering has been stagnant as fuck because of this
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.3823876
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3823876

I'm sorry I shitpost and aided to bring about the "not going to make it" and crab memes, it was a way to vent the disappointments from not being able to have a spirit to carry a work through completion. It's been many years of stopping half way into the drawing leaving it unfinished due to too many anatomical errors or poor coloring.

Sometimes we even wish to return being blissful again in our own ignorance just as we were before we found this place. We envy those outside who are unaware of their own faults and freely post their art without hesitation. The ability to perceive your own mistakes is a double edged sword leaving you hopeless in a purgatory between giving up or pressing forward to the next failure.

I'm sorry I try to drag others down to the same rut, maybe we pull at others hoping that they'll pull back for a way out.

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>>3823870
Just let it happen, anon. You need to get to your "ah ha!" moment where things start making sense.

Having a log of your work is very important for understanding your own shortcomings and how to overcome it. You shouldn't feel guilty over drawing something well.

>> No.3823910

>>3823903
Thanks. It's been getting much better lately, but I still have those hangups and I feel like giving up when I do. Looking back at my work, sometimes I feel like I've made no progress at all, at least not visibly.

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3823916

>>3823360
>>3823746
>>3823870

>> No.3825048
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3825048

>>3823746
Got my skills back

>> No.3825051

>>3825048
What do you draw?

>> No.3825056

>>3825051
Was drawing from observation, still /beg/

>> No.3825073

I started Drawabox yesterday and spent several hours doing the exercises, now my shoulder is still tired and sore. I want to keep drawing and improving but now I have to wait for my body to catch up. I appreciate the space to vent since otherwise I would be shitposting in other threads out of boredom.

>> No.3825290

>>3825073
>Drawabox
Thanks for this. Always seen it mentioned casually but didn't realize it was a full course type of deal.

>> No.3825308

>>3825073
>>3825290
You guys tried Peter Han yet?

>> No.3825348

I feel really bad that I still suck despite having this incredible amount of ressources.
I feel like a cheap hack of what true artists might have been in the past, when they didn't had acess to all of this anatomy and other ressources.
Is having everything served on a plate like that bad? I've always avoided looking at ressources and I was terrible, now I'm still terrible but starting to understand things thanks to all those tutorials. And for some reason it makes me feel bad that I could never figure this out myself compared to all those talented artists that actuallty produced stuff so early when I'm still a beginner in my 30s.

>> No.3825351

>>3825348
All this means is that you need to try harder.

>> No.3825353

I know the only thing I like is to draw but I figured that up super late, and now I'm resolved to make it (even on a small scale, even a part time job would be fine), but I don't know how people actually make money besides porn commissions and stuff (I tried but I don't really like it)

I wish someone would make a career flowchart because I'm such a fucking baby I don't know what I want and where to start.

>> No.3825354

>>3825348
I have a feeling you're not being realistic.

>> No.3825364

I wish I didn't spend so much time playing video games and jerking off for all those years when I had the time to do so

>> No.3825366

>>3825364
mind if I ask why?

>> No.3825371

>>3825354
In what regard?

>>3825351
I got this. What specifically pisses me off these days is the feeling of knowing all those great artists (not even talking masters only) that managed to get such good understanding of fundamentals and style without having anyone to copy orso many tutorials on demand.

>> No.3825393

>>3825308
>>>3825073
>>>3825290
>You guys tried Peter Han yet?
No, what am I supposed to be trying? Does he have some kind of lesson plan similar to Drawabox that we are supposed to follow?

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3825398

>>3825364
same bro

>> No.3825399

>>3825371
you assume that your resources are much better than theirs. Yeah they didn't have the internet, but so what? Most Internet tuts are garbage and misleading anyways, it wouldn't be bad by any means to learn as an apprentice to a master - hell it might even have been better than what you have, what do you know? Letting yourself feel bad about something so messy and wide a claim isn't smart - it's bad morale practice.

I'm not tryin to meme you with motivation, just have a little perspective. You're talking about something that may very well not even be true. People had their means back then.

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3825408

More of a question than a vent, does anyone sane actually mind if someone tells you "That drawing looks like a character from X"? I've seen it more and more in Instagram and it feels like the artist thinks he's justified to act like a cunt towards anyone that makes a similar comment, am I lacking in empathy or are most of these people's egos made of glass?

>> No.3825411

>>3825408
Yeah, what’s the point of commenting such non-contribution trash on my images. Get out of here.

>> No.3825423

>>3825393
DrawABox is basically derived from Peter Han's stuff.

>> No.3825429

>>3825408
I think it MIGHT be something in the lines of wanting everyone to know that you fully worked on it, from the ground up.

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>>3823360
Don't hurt me like this.

>> No.3825450

>>3825364
I hate how after I masturbate, I feel too tired to do anything productive for about least an hour.

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>>3825450

>> No.3825877

I’m sad cause I feel like i’ve improved quite a bit but the thing im struggling with is networking and socializing i hate that I shake like a little bitch when I have to practice presenting my art for classes and i hate that i’m too stupid and autistic to know how the fuck to make friends without feeling like i’m just another ass kisser

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3825912

>>3823288
Off to read some Loomis, friend

>> No.3825932

>struggling with commissions
>all my drawfriends recommended me to build a following first, chase the trends, draw the current popular/trendy things, that sort of stuffs
>tfw i'm too much of a stuck up asshole i can't even do that without loathing myself for being a sellout

someone pls tell me how to kill my shitty ego

>> No.3826041

>>3825408
I feel like people who do this are egotistical cunts. you could just give someone a compliment by commenting “this reminds me of x, it’s nice” and then they use that as ammunition for some fabricated drama to boost engagement. I wish someone would comment on my work at all.

>> No.3826047

>>3825932
if you’re not willing to sellout then don’t bother with commissions. just do work that makes you happy without relying on it for income and get a real job instead.

>> No.3826180

>>3823288
I feel bad for you man, I suck the most at anatomy on this board

>> No.3826183

>>3826180
post bad anatomy I want to see

>> No.3826184

>>3825912
I don't need to read your meme crap

>> No.3826239

>>3823288
anatomy-tards btfo it has nothing to do with anatomy. Do you see OP having "lmao 2headswide" shoulders? Anatomy isn't the issue, it's whether it's "beautiful" that's the issue. anyway your shading doesn't have high enough contrast, and the "small detail to large smooth detail" ratio is off. You have middle of the road detail everywhere. The simple clean style relies on smooth flow and deep shadows, usually made by multiply layer. Thin lines don't matter if they're too stiff.

>> No.3826245

>>3823355
then you should actually stop drawing without thinking and study, so you dont gonna waste another 15 years

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3826250

>>3826184
>actually believing loomis is a meme

>> No.3826251

>>3823364
then you need more networking, actually networking, instagram if fine but if you only use that thing is not enough at all

>> No.3826252

>>3826250
The old masters never even heard of a Loomis

>> No.3826299

>>3826251
I’ve started trying on Facebook too, gonna keep spreading like a plague onto different platforms until someone notices me lmao

>> No.3826305

>>3826252
>Newton never even heard of Einstein, so he's a meme

k

>> No.3826311

>>3826305
>fell for a meme
>tries to justify the meme
lol

>> No.3826323

>>3823288
fucking anatomy, anon
work on your anatomy first

>> No.3826327
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3826327

I'm not going to retweet and like your atrocious work and commision prices out of pity. Stop daily retweeting your 5 day old posts you desperate fuck.

>> No.3826332

I started taking commisions from my irl firends recently and I've really learned some things about them, it's surprisingly fun but a part of me feels like I made a bad choice

>> No.3826334

>>3826323
I literally traced a photo of a real person you dunning kruger

>> No.3826336

>>3826334
well you still gotta work on it though

>> No.3826580

>follow an artist on twitter because I like their work
>now all they ever do is retweet stupid memes and shitpost in lowercase, maybe posting a sketch once every 3 weeks
>after which they complain about their bipolar depression and anxiety for another week, making "please help me @ my patreon" posts that effectively amount to "give me money or I'll kill myself"
>unfollow them because fuck that
>whatever mutual follow app they're using immediately tells them I've unfollowed them
>they make a callout post naming me and several others (who were also clearly tired of their stupid bullshit)
>artist's numerous shitty teenage fans jump on the bandwagon and try to spin up a drama cyclone about it
>start blocking people because it all gets REAL personal from out of fucking nowhere
>realize I've had to block like 150+ accounts >eventually stop using twitter because it's just not fucking worth it
Jesus fucking christ, fuck social media.

>> No.3826608

>>3826580
II hanashi da oniichan. Mata omoshiroi suto-ri kikitai desu.

>> No.3826656

>>3826580

Good, twitter is a fucking cesspool these days, better stay out

>> No.3826689
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3826689

I been drawing for around 6 years now,got a small following on instagram (just around 86+ followers) still i know i have to get better or do more colored drawings ,ppl like to see pretty colors and shit i guess,whatever i know i try to be okay with whatever i have (one of the most recent drwaings i've made)

>> No.3826762
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3826762

>draw faces from imagination
>the all look like the hot girls on campus or ex gfs
>get horny as fuck
I kind of like this, but at the same time it gives me tfw no gf.

>> No.3826764

>>3826334
I can't believe you can't even trace right, fuck. I vent this feeling of absolute sadness you give me.

>> No.3826846

>>3823279
i posted this drawing and some dude said it was shit and that i was an idiot because i had blocked in black on the shirt without using white for highlights, at the time i said that i could fix it but only later realised he was talking bs about that because i could put white over the black just fine >:O !!!! that really fucked my turkey not being able to call that guy a dumbass who is wrong about shit

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>>3826846
i meant he said that i shouldnt have filled the whole shirt in black cause it would fuck up the highlights. well here it is and theres plenty of pure white highlights i put over the black so that guy can suck a fuck

>> No.3826867

>draw $20 portraits for normies
>make a couple hundred dollars a month off of this
>think im cool for scamming the shit out of normalfags
>realise that im not scamming anybody and that im completely legit
Later virgins.

>> No.3826871

>>3826867
haha good for u

>> No.3826939
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3826939

>Trying to finish assignment
>couldn't finish the task that's worth like have the fucking grade
>probably spent ~10 hours total trying to figure it out to no avail
>just sitting on my ass deriving equation and going in circles
>trying to make the fucking conditional statements work
>say fuck it and just go to hand it since there's no fucking time left
>I FORGOT TO DO THE FUCKING BIBLIOGRAPHY
>AND ENDED UP HANDING IT IN 2 MINUTES FUCKING LATE
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH!!!

>> No.3826957

>Almost 30 years old
>Still draw like I did when I was 15 (bad)
>Want to git gud and draw for vidya someday
>Too lazy to put in effort
>Just getting older and not gitting any gudder

>> No.3826966

>>3826939
I feel you, anon. I really do.

>> No.3826986
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3826986

Got sorta decent at drawing, then stopped working at it when I got a stable but time consuming job. Now 39 and haven't drawn regularly in over 10 years, just occasionally sketching bullshit. Recently started following artists on Twitter and Instagram, feeling regret that I let my chance to make it pass me by.

>> No.3826998

>>3826764
Nope I assure you, it is a 100% accurate trace. You are making shit up about anatomy to try and look smart, but I 100% accurately traced a photo of a real person. You have been exposed as the fake that you are.

>> No.3827001

>>3826998
Post the photo

>> No.3827002

>>3826986
What kind of artists do you like?

>> No.3827003

>>3827001
post your butthole

>> No.3827021

>>3826998
Back off aspergic bait

>> No.3827033

>>3826998
But judging by your output, it still looks absolutely garbage

>> No.3827045

>>3827033
Says the retard who just got caught being a fucking dunning kruger

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>>3827002
I started off as a fan of comics, I really enjoy Jerome Opena, Olivier Coipel, and James Harren among current artists. Then I got into old school concept guys like Iain McCaig, Akihiko Yoshida. Also like some manga artists like Terada, Boichi, Hiroaki Samura, and Sakamoto Shinichi.
So pretty much I’m just a pleb.

>> No.3827083

>>3826986
At least you can be good by the time you retire and just do whatever you want.

>> No.3827322

>>3827045
I'm so sorry for your failure OP

>> No.3827462

I don't know how to make my drawings look professional and effortless and it's so fucking annoying aah. It's like people can tell instantly you're amateur trash. Doesn't matter if you know how to draw something if you can't draw it looking nice.

>> No.3827510

>>3826957
You should draw anyways.

>> No.3827546
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3827546

>I can actually draw decently by combining tons of references
>But I don't know shit about drawing from imagination, construction, etc and it makes me feel like a hack.
>And I am a really really shitty learner in all subject and topics and trying to grind imagination drawings that look absolutely disgusting feels like hell

>> No.3827548

>>3827546
I felt the same for a while. Turns out drawing a lot from imagination no matter how disgusting helps a lot. Improve each time and eventually you'll be on your way to doing okay things without reference and never feel like a hack ever again until you have to use reference that is.

>> No.3827549

>>3823279
I'm a self taught artist I taught myself when to paint when I was about 14 and developed my own art style but then I had multiple paintings stolen from me and someone took credit for my art and got scholarships for the paintings to improve their skills
When I made new paintings I got accused of trying to copy my own stolen art style and was assaulted

>> No.3827554

>>3827549
I only had 2 week of a month long art class and watching some Bob Ross videos to start me off on painting and everything else I did was me experimenting with painting

>> No.3827628

>>3826327
What will make you retweet then?

>> No.3827638

>>3827549
Dude that’s fucking horrible I’m sorry this happened to you :( I hope the situation clears up in the end

>> No.3827838

>>3827322
And you're just a faggot nothing person, so I'm not sorry for you.

>> No.3827871

Artists are jerks and being around other artists is more mentally draining than actually working on it

>> No.3827896

>tfw you don't have the skill or patience to make illustrations that stand on execution alone
>tell myself it's fine as long as i can use my art as a vehicle to tell stories instead of making art just for the sake of looking good
>tfw it turns out you're also garbage at coming up with stories

>> No.3827960

>>3827896
>tfw garbage and you know all there is to do is study more and get better
Why are we here just to suffer?

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3828089

>>3827896
>>3827960
I don't need this shit right now.

>> No.3828091

>Made art gains last week
>Draw yesterday
>Suddenly all of those gains are gone
I really hope it was just stress.

>> No.3828095

>>3826327
this annoys the shit out of me when an artist rts their own stuff more than once or twice in the span of a day

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3828106

>cant muster the will to draw
>feel guilty
>deny self any other activities, like vidya
>feel empty
>can't muster the will to draw
>ect ect
for days, weeks, months

just kill me

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3828107

>>3823279
How do i enter a healthy life so i can finally focus on getting better?

>> No.3828117

>>3827546
Draw a kangaroo for us from imagination

>> No.3828261

>>3828107
I don't know you or your exact situation, but these things helped me to develop good art habits:

Exercise every day. Get moving, do some pushups and squats, try to train your grip strength. You don't have to do anything crazy, don't need to join a gym or buy weights, just get your blood pumping for 20 minutes. Go jog, ride a bike, whatever. It helps the brain.

Stop eating shitty food. You don't have to eat nothing but kale and quinoa, but for god's sake don't eat candy and pizza and soda all the time. You'll feel better all day with two eggs and some bacon for breakfast instead of a hot pocket and a red bull.

Get off the internet for most of your day. Seriously, limit yourself to like an hour, maybe two. I personally would always try to justify my internet usage, saying I needed it for gathering reference or looking up tutorials or getting critique, but the reality was I was just using it to avoid studying and learning. Use it at a time that's most convenient for you, but limit yourself all the same. That goes for your phone, too. Try to keep distractions to a minimum while you're working.

Give yourself a direction you want to take your work. Set goals and deadlines for yourself, and punish yourself accordingly when you fail. Don't overdo the punishment, though; don't tell yourself you're shit or take away all leisure time because you think you're a retard or whatever. Just remember that you're trying to get better, and if you missed a deadline, it's because you wasted your time somewhere else--cut down your leisure times accordingly, and do better next time.

In the end, if you want to focus on getting better, it's all about making realistic schedules and building discipline.

>> No.3828269

Some of you wannabe e-artists are so fucking bitter for no reason. If you're gonna be such a miserable asshole, do the world a favour and don't smear your shit all over everyone trying to have a nice time enjoying their craft.

>> No.3828273

>>3828261
wow thanks a lot man, really good advice here. I agree with everything you said. Big props to giving serious long advice here.
I try to keep up a healthy lifestyle but i fall off of it whenever i get depressed, gotta try to make being healthy a normal thing instead of a "unusually good" thing. The part about the setting deadlines for myself and punishing when i fail is a thing i didn't think of that much. I think i let myself off the hook too easily whenever i fail my commissions. thanks again for the advice m8

>> No.3828282

>>3828269
agreed
>post something I worked really hard on
>some dipshit rolls into the comments whining about how they'll "never be this good"
>cries about "certain people having advantages" over others
>about how their art never gets noticed so they "literally can't improve"
>tell them to fuck off and git gud instead of whining
>get mad DMs from other bitter shitbads
why waste the time complaining and trying to drag other people down just for working harder than you're willing to? don't @ me just because you hate yourself, keep a fucking journal and leave me out of it

>> No.3828295

>>3827838
My guy, your pic is a 4 year progress yet there is zero progress at all. Start working on your fundies instead of feeling bitter about it

>> No.3828304

>>3827628
Actual good artwork or those with potential. It gets obnoxious when I keep seeing the exact bland artwork retweeted the next day and the day after that etc etc

>> No.3828309

>>3828269
You gonna get a lot of that from staying too long here

>> No.3828311

>>3827546
Practice drawing from imagination then

>> No.3828402

AAAAAA I WANT TO BE DEAD
I WANT TO BE DEAD ALREADY
I'LL NEVER GET GOOD AT ART
JUST LET ME DIE
I WANNA BE REBORN AS ASK
OR KANEKIRU
I DONT WANT TO BE ME
I FUCKED IT ALL UP

>> No.3828417

>>3828295
>t. faggot nothing person

>> No.3828444

>>3827638
This was like 9 years ago the guy who took credit for my art and earned himself a scholarship for it

>> No.3828470

>>3828444
I hope everyone realised that he was a talentless cunt after he got in

>> No.3828710

I bought a danbooru gold account to look for something specific to fap to I didn't find it exactly so I edited some drawings from something close enough I made a normal cute anime girl into a gyaru with a fatter ass and fapped it felt right and I didn't save it but I might redo it and study that edit because the proportions made my pp hard

>> No.3828712

>>3823288
is this what artistic death looks like?

>> No.3828716

>>3828712
no whether you like it or not it's what progress looks like

>> No.3828724
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>>3823288
Reminder that this is where Kyle was once before. You are witnessing another Kyle in the making and we cannot wait until he comes back and btfos everyone. All he needs is direction to git good I believe in him and I believe major butthurt will be had after he makes it.

>> No.3828726

>>3828470
He was a nigger so...
My art style was fairly unique mostly big simple strokes and little color blending
Paint the picture and put as much key details with as few paint strokes as possible and make it clean
Unless I felt like painting something crazy then i would make it pretty elaborate
I painted a green fairy under a fern but it was like a savage native fairy armed with a spear and the plant looked poisonous
The woods in the background looked like a bog that could kill you
I even painted my name right on the painting big enough to not be covered over and on the back of the right where the fairy was so it couldn't be stolen easily and it got stolen anyway by the same nigger
He painted black over the back and cut out the center of the painting to get rid of both of my names and made some convenient excuse

>> No.3828730

>>3828724
who the fug is kyle

>> No.3828736

>>3828726
>stole your bike your girl your paintings your degree your peers trust in you probably your virginity
Did you paint about any of that?

>> No.3828769

>>3828417
Stay bitter homie. Not my loss

>> No.3828792

>>3828769
I'm not your "homie." Stop talking like a ghetto gangster wannabe. Have some class if you want people to respect you.

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3828808

>>3828726
>Larping this hard
You did this art and had it available for a wannabe artist to steal and never had any witnesses who had seen your work to attest to it? Did he watch you in paint seclusion through your window and hatch his plot to get a scholarship? You had the ability to produce this work but not to do new work showing your fundamentals and talent? Anyone could tell they were stolen if you could reproduce the brushwork and the thief couldn't. Plus, art schools don't give a shit if your art is derivative if you show the skill. Your whole story is ridiculous.

>> No.3828811

>>3828792
I’m not the person you’re responding to but I hope you learn to socialise with people like a normal human being, you fucking neckbeard

>> No.3828819

>>3828811
It's a joke dumdum. much like you

>> No.3828822

>>3828792
Nice projection lmao

>> No.3828824

>>3823288
>4 years
BIG YIKES

>> No.3828825

>>3828824
Lets see your 4 years.

>> No.3828827

>>3828824
>big X
kys with your faggot normie memes

>> No.3828828

>>3828827
>>3828825
make me uwu

>> No.3828829

>>3828827
I always cringe painfully when I see or hear this. There are people who actually say this out loud in real life, too. I feel so embarrassed for people who talk or type like that. It's like they have no self-awareness. Like people who unironically say "epic win"

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>>3823288
holy shit

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3828925

>>3823288
Are you this guy?

>> No.3828933

>>3828925
This one has more appeal than OP

>> No.3828938

>>3828925
he literally regressed lmao

>> No.3828939

>>3823288
Thank god Im not this autistic to regress for 4 years

>> No.3828943

>>3828938
Post your work.

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3828957

>>3827896
>>3827960

>> No.3828980

>>3828943
I did :^)

>> No.3828983

>>3828980
You're half way there, now point us to your work faggot.

>> No.3828994

>>3828983
Not that anon but it's fucking hilarious how mad OP is. Keep it up.

>> No.3828999

>>3823288
Oh dear...

>> No.3829023

>>3828983
I’m OP

>> No.3829050

>>3825411
>>3826041
>>3825408
Are people really this sensitive? If someone were to comment the character I drew looked like an already existing character, I'd just politely ask in what regards, so I could then change that certain part, unless it's really miniscule. Like c'mon people who sperge over this are an embarrassment.

>> No.3829150

>>3828808
No actually I painted it in my single bedroom dorm room which was on very liberal college campus
There were security cameras on all floors of every building but those cameras were operated by students overseen by staff
If you wanted your work graded you had to put it on public display as public art for it to be seen by staff and if It hadn't been graded yet anyone could take it down because it wasn't recognized as student artwork
If it got graded the art would be put in display in another section of the school as student art and whoever made it got credit for it and the reputation for making it
I had to put it on display then leave for class
I'd come back from class my artwork would be gone
Another student would be talking to someone about my art and taking credit for it
I'd ask security wtf happen they would say sorry we deleted our security footage because we didn't see anything criminal happen and were not gonna arrest and ruin the reputation of a good boy who dindunuffin just cause he took your painting
You can't do shit in that kind of situation
I've mad new paintings in the same art style and had people who think I was copying someone else's style assault me

>> No.3829159

>>3825408
Rather there are even more kids using social media these days and feel entitled to be a cunt on anyone who disagrees with them.

Personally, i don't mind if they commented something like this. People usually find connection on existing characters so it's not uncommon for these things to happen

>> No.3829160

>>3828736
He never stole my bike and idgaf about the girl she was a dumb liberal that wanted to push me front and center so she could show me off in front of her peers and the other stupid guys
I did paint a picture of a dragon burning down a castle
And another of a small wizard boy riding a t rex blasting the shit out of a village of people with green beams of energy coming out of a wizard staff and hat
I also painted a mermaid cuddling with a shark pup

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>>3828829
People do this?

>> No.3829198

>>3829194
>tfw you know what’s going on behind that finger
Yikes for real.

>> No.3829200

>>3829150
What bullshit hunger games grading system is that? I hope you're lying because that school should be condemned otherwise.

>> No.3829271

>>3828819
I’ve been bamboozled

>> No.3829384

>>3829194
You bet your yikes it is

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3829405

The majority of artists I follow are porn or pin up artists. The majority of shit I've drawn so far in my life are girls. I didn't want this when I was a child. I wanted to draw cool niggas doing cool shit. Now all I see and think is porn. Drawing dudes was a after thought until now. I see an artist upload some cool shit on my feed but if there's a drawing of a girl right beside it, I have to actively resist the urge to click on the girl in order to see the cool shit. I'm too immersed in the porn. Fucking dumb stupid retarded monkey brain.

>> No.3829409

>waste twenty years of my life trying to draw without fundies
>finally learn some fundies
>create a new blog
>post some art
>gets no attention
>stop posting, grind more fundies
>first post after the grind is a "badly drawn" shitpost with some higher quality drawings mixed in
>somehow gets 100 notes and some people start following
>I'm happy and motivated
>post more, trying to upload something everyday
>nothing gets any attention (20 notes tops)
>drawing I posted yesterday got only one like
Is there a point? Should I give up?
Also everything I posted was fanart of something that's currently relevant so there is no excuse.

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>>3823288
Here's some more cringe for you. People who draw like this actually exist.

>> No.3829602

>>3829409
You should network yourself more bud, interact with other artists and art enthusiasts, people not only follow for technically good art but for personality as well

>> No.3829627

>>3826305
No one starts with Einstein?

>> No.3829646

>>3829627

That's not the point, the point is that you just don't disqualify someone because of 'muh old masters'

No one learns math with the 'old masters'

>> No.3829665

>>3829646
>No one learns math with the 'old masters'
I don't know how your math eduction went, but I'm pretty sure that the basic stuff in math is "muh old masters".

>> No.3829667

>>3829665

So did Loomis, he didn't invent construction, just simplified stuff

>> No.3829670

>>3829602
I fucking hate interacting with people but thanks, I'll try something. Any advice on how to appear likeable?

>> No.3829692

>>3829670
Ahh I do know what you mean, I’ve always hoped to just post art and somehow end up noticed but it just doesn’t work that way :( in the captions of your posts it seems endearing to be slightly self deprecating ? Not in an overly pessimistic way but in a lighthearted-making-fun-of-yourself kind of way. I always try to be positive and use some emojis to be expressive in my captions, just so they have a specific cute tone. You can also just say some casual opinions about your day to day life, for example, when posting fanart you can comment on how you recently got into whatever it is you’re posting about, say how you hate or like some characters because being opinionated will encourage viewers to agree or disagree with you <3

>> No.3829754

Every time. Every fucking time I try to draw something I just repeat the same exact shit I always do and I can't break away from this. I might get something interesting in the sketching phase, but the more I refine it, the more it regresses back to what I always do. It's driving me mad and I've scrapped dozens of pics altogether because it'd just be the same shit again.

>> No.3829924

>>3829754
Are you sure that it’s the same thing over again and not just you developing your style ? Also, the solution to that would be having inspiration and an idea of what you want to convey before you start drawing.

>> No.3829928

>>3829924
Nah, I guess you could call it my style but when it's the bad things about "my style" it's still a problem that I can't get rid of them. It's stuff like poses and the way I draw bodies and the problem is that I'd like to branch out and diversify what I can do. I unintentionally just go back to the familiar and safe, same shit I always do. I've noticed that I can break out of this by drawing with limited tools like mspaint or a binary brush, because it forces me to do something different and I can't just fall back to the same crutches I usually go for, but whenever I try to use a "serious" brush again it always goes back to the same old shit. I basically have the option to draw better than my usual oekaki, or the same old shit.

>> No.3829929

>>3829924
>>3829928
Also, if my text reads like aimless rambling it's because I'm drunk. Sorry about that.

>> No.3829957

>>3829200
It's called liberal Democrats and there desire to put down anyone that doesn't toe the party line
It was specifically designed for taking advantage of anyone that was already vulnerable

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3829966

Everyone is drawing pokemon now and getting a shit ton of notes and it frustrates me because I always fail to jump into bandwagons with my mediocre ugly shit and it hurts
It fucking hurts and I feel bad for being so desperate someone please just kill me

>> No.3830005

>>3829966
Just post your shit if your so desperate for bandwagon clicks haha I was gonna draw this shit anyway. It's a win win for me because I'm a pokefag. I would suggest just not drawing if it really brings you that much anguish though. You shouldn't be doing it for aattention.Ehats the point of drawing if you aren't having fun?

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>>3830005
>You shouldn't be doing it for aattention.Ehats the point of drawing if you aren't having fun?
My exact same thoughts, that's why it stings I know I would be doing something bad in my book but I'm so desperate for validation right now I'm seriously considering it
But then I think back when the Bowsette shit blew off and I spend 2 days making my piece to get 5 notes and shit dude no I don't wanna feel that kind of sick anxious gut feel again over my drawings.

>> No.3830110

>>3829928
Do you mind posting examples of your work ? In my opinion it’s ok to practice things within your comfort zone just for fun, if you’re noticing an annoying repetitive pattern within your drawings then the next step would be to work against it. I understand you, you want to draw with fluid movements that are natural to you but when you do the end result just looks like a carbon copy of your other works. Try getting inspiration from other artists and make some quick copies of their work, if you increase your visual library then there’s a higher chance of diversity in your art

>> No.3830133

>>3830100
Post your bowsette so I can like it

>> No.3830163

>>3830133
I wanna see too

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3830182

Trying to get a following but I’m shit at coloring

Should I just draw popular things and hope something like that gets me big?

>> No.3830189

>>3830100
>>3829966
Then just draw something that you actually enjoy. You'll just drain yourself out trying to fish likes from others but if you're really thirsty for attention, interact with other artists, like and reblog their shit and hashtag your fanart for more visibility

>>3830133
>>3830100
Post bowsette too I want to see

>> No.3830204

>>3830182
i feel the same anon. im very bad at coloring

>> No.3830231

>>3830100
That bowsette shit was fucking gay. Don't jump on shitty bandwagons that you don't feel passionate about just because you think it might get you some followers. Remember that millions of other artists were doing the same thing what that bowsette garbage was blowing up, so there was no reason for you to stand out for doing the same thing.

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>>3823279
i did over 1200 drawings in the last 8 months in some kind of manic autistic frenzy to try and get back the only boy i ever really cared about. no that doesn't make any sense but it was easier than admitting he's probably never coming back. without him i don't have any drive left or any reason to keep drawing.
i got gud but there's nothing worth painting anymore.

>> No.3830322

>>3830320
>tfw did 1200 drawings in the same period of time just to get better
Must be nice having a boy or someone to run after.

>> No.3830357

>>3830231
I like bowsette jr

>> No.3830364

I feel like every time I "study" something I'm doing it entirely wrong. Im copying muscle diagrams and doing figure drawings of models and such but I have no idea how to apply any of this information to my own drawings and it makes me feel like an idiot

>> No.3830371

>>3827838
man someone's ngmi

>> No.3830372

>>3830357
>jr
oh shit - there is a junior version

mooooooodddds

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3830387

dealing with depression and loneliness but my art improvment gives me some hope

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>>3830372
shhh just sleep on her lap pillow anon there's nothing to worry about

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3830458

>>3823354
Same. Feels bad...

>> No.3830626

I'm pretty sure someone I know posts in either ic or co, gets ignored then proceeds to whine in her twitter about how she's too good for this site. I hope you're not reading this lmao coz you're fucking hilarious

>> No.3830847

>>3823279
Tons of crappy accounts on Instagram, Twitter or whatever gets thousands of followers when i barely gain a few of them. Fuck. I mean, i know my art is deeply flawed and i have a lot to learn, but i think my characters designs are still original, i mean, most of the stuff i see when i scroll between artists could have been done by any of them, with a few exceptions.
But i don't get how to gain more followers. I see people farting and getting a ton of likes and replies. But even when i suck up to trends and get (rarely) hundreds of likes and retweet, i barely win 2 or 3 followers in the process, maybe less. Often i see people starting to follow me and yet my count remains equal or lower than before, meaning some of them left, because i didn't followback or some shit.
It's just so tiresome and depressing, to do shit without anyone looking at them.
>>3823288
Work on your anatomy before everything else. And draw more often.

>> No.3830853

>>3830847
Pyw

>> No.3830861

>>3830847
>i think my characters designs are still original
Doesn't matter. What gets attention is the appeal of your artwork so if your work looks dull as fuck, obviously they're not gonna follow you

>> No.3830872

>>3830861
I guess that makes sense. I tries to work on cool projects. I'm working on a boardgame right now (and having fun when i'm not depressed by some shit), hopefully that'll appeal more to people.
I want to focus on bigger, flashier pieces too but it's fucking depressing when something you spent days doing goes unnoticed.
Jesus i never thought i would become such a big attention whore, but in the end someone's drawing without anyone to look at their shit might as well not exist.

>> No.3830895

>>3830872
>I'm working on a boardgame right now
>hopefully that'll appeal more to people.
>I want to focus on bigger, flashier pieces too
Your expectations are off the roof. Start small, anon. You'll be prone to depression and disappointment if you gonna start with something that big

>> No.3830911

>>3830847
>>3830872
Well, it seems no one follows you because your work is just not good enough, wheter from a conceptual or technical stand point.

You also seem to carry a lot of misunderstandings about how social media works that you use to cope:
> I see people farting and getting a ton of likes and replies.
People with tons of follows will have a lot of likes on meaningless post because they already have toma of followers from thw other stuff they post.

>most of the stuff i see when i scroll between artists could have been done by any of them
No one cares about people that try to be different to be different. They care about things that they like.

>> No.3830915

>>3830895
>Your expectations are off the roof. Start small, anon. You'll be prone to depression and disappointment if you gonna start with something that big
True. I'll stick with characters and smaller illustrations until I'm "satisfied enough" with my skills anyway.
>>3830911
>People with tons of follows will have a lot of likes on meaningless post because they already have toma of followers from thw other stuff they post.
That's quite logical, i just wonder how in hell some of these people got big in the first place.
>No one cares about people that try to be different to be different.
Not my case, i do different stuff because that's what i want to tell people about. I'm not looking for snowflakes, just cool and interesting characters that have things to say.
>They care about things that they like.
Yeah, this i get. Most people don't care about things they're not already acquainted with. I definitely have to dilute more mainstream stuff with my other works otherwise I'll scare people off.

>> No.3830936

I finally have my day off but I've been wasting the morning I need to make enough money from art to quit my shit job before summer starts

>> No.3830964

>>3830626
Just name and shame anon, they won't be able to tell who you are anyways.

>> No.3830977

>>3830964
I know a handful of people who knows I browse ic so no.

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>>3830189
>>3830133
Thanks for the heads up but I would rather not. Admitting this thing is hard and anyways I got some people who know me lurking here and I live in constant paranoia already, it just never ends

>> No.3830986

>>3830982
post it admitting that doesn't sound bad or embarrassing to me at all that's your friends won't feel any differently about you

>> No.3831000

>>3830626
I now a guy from co who posted here before. Told him to study more fundies but he sperged out instead.

>> No.3831008

>>3825932
Do what Shad does make fun of the characters or fanbase . Subvert expectations

>> No.3831031

>why don't you draw ____ anymore??
>not a req but could you draw ____ again?
>draw ____ or don't post, I don't follow you for this other shit

Fandoms are the fucking worst.

>> No.3831109

>>3831031
True. Manchildren that can survive without being fed with the same shit over again. And they certainly won't eat their veggies.

>> No.3831140

>>3823354
Post blog, I'll commission u right now

>> No.3831157

>>3831031
>not a request but here's my awful request
all the time with this shit
I've started replying with
>not to be offensive but your mom is a stupid cunt

>> No.3831196

>>3831140
Wait are you serious ? @beholdnika on Instagram, see if you like my work

>> No.3831207

>>3823279
I play video games and or browse 4chan for hours instead of drawing. I draw when i have other responsibilities or don't want to play video games I said I would play, anime/manga backlog, etc. Everything I do is a form of procrastinating to not do something else. This has been going on since age 14. Oh yeah, I also draw almost entirely for attention. That's why I only get shit done consistently when I drawfag. Haven't drawn shit ever since I stopped besides a bunch of shitty sketches which I immediately delete afterwards instead of saving or scanning if they were done traditionally.

>> No.3831240

I always wanted to draw and create art but never gathered the courage and discipline to do it. But now after some years I finally managed to get in the mindset and finally commit to it. I'm liking it and seeing improvement, but the problem is I can't see my objectives anymore. If someone were to ask "why do you draw, anon?" I would simply reply "I don't know." It's like I lost the spark but in exchange gained the discipline and willpower. Now I draw with hope that in the future that spark comes back and I can finally see a goal.

>> No.3831243

>Starting to steadily post shirts on redbubble
>Lucky if a shirt gets 2 views
Please let my motivation stay strong.

>> No.3831244

>>3831196
You've got almost 800 followers, how are you not rakin it in?

>> No.3831256

>>3831244
I honestly don’t know, I suppose out of those 800 followers only a small percentage are active and interact with my account

>> No.3831284

>>3831243
Stay motivated anon !

>> No.3831311

>>3831256
>>3823354
>beholdnika
maybe this isn't what you want to hear anon, but it's what i wish someone told me when i was starting out. don't worry about the money side of things yet. you're improving at a really good rate & starting to do work that other drawfags can appreciate, but when it comes to being at a viable level to get good jobs, you're not there yet. lowballing yourself wont solve that problem. at best, it'll net you some of the shittiest clients imaginable and just cause you misery while taking away focus from the kind of work that will actually make you better. you're pretty young, so unless your situation is really unstable and you *need* money to live (and have a disability or something that prevents normal forms of employment because let's face it, you can't eat on those prices), just take advantage of the fact that you have a while to focus entirely on learning & having fun before this has to turn into a job. don't get discouraged, art is fucking hard and making money with it is even harder. i completely believe you have what it takes to reach that point, just not yet.
>>3831256
that number can mean a lot of different things especially on a generalist platform like insta. there's big difference between people who can be assed to click the follow button, other drawfags who give you some small level of engagement and actual paying clients.

>> No.3831322

>>3831311
I appreciate your advice anon, the reason I’m so keen on doing commissions now though is because my boyfriend’s, best friend’s, and mum’s birthdays are all in March. I know I should get a proper job to save money to buy them gifts but at this point I don’t have enough time. Either way I see what you mean, I’m thankful you took the time to write that out for me <3

>> No.3831334

KILL ME please just the amount of work I have to do is unreal

>> No.3831342

>>3831334
It always helps me to watch movies and listen to music while doing work

>> No.3831372

>>3823279
Commissioners are scum. They have zero capacity to empathize with others and they think their money is worth more than it truly is.
One motherfucker had the fucking nerve to tell me to tell me to redo a whole piece just because he wasn't satisfied with it. It's like the retard could not conceptualize he's asking me to work for free. Look here little nigger, it's very unfortunate that I'm garbage and the work wasn't done to your satisfaction, but it still took me like 30 hours to make and I'm not putting one more fucking minute in it. Accept the uncertainty is the nature of the game, cut your loses and write me off as a shit artist with shit skills and never hire me again, but don't fucking dare ask me to work for free. I fucking lost my mind trying to get your shit to a point it was good enough for you.

>> No.3831387

>>3831372
Sorry you had that experience, did you not update the commissioner with every siginifant step in progress ?

>> No.3831409
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3831409

>>3823746

>> No.3831428

>>3831372
what does your sketch/ approval phase look like anon?
you sort of need to design your workflow in a manner that's retard-proofed for shaky clients.

>> No.3831462
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3831462

Its all about keeping at it, never give up. I used to underestimate the fundamentals and thought that continuous drawing would help me. Its all about mixing practice with deliberate study.

>> No.3831491

>>3831462
I actually like the tracer one

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>>3831462
Shut the fuck up tracing faggot.

>> No.3831530

Why do girls not like get horny and flirt with me?

>> No.3831532

>>3831462
>>3831491
>>3831527
pottery

>> No.3831537

>>3831530
you have to be born chad they throw themselves at chad just because his abbs butt back shoulders and everything else look good and he's social and he started to grow a full beard at the age of 14 and they don't even think about anyone else chad is all they want if you aren't chad or taller chad girls don't care

>> No.3831538
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>>3831530
Girls aren't attracted to virgin beta artists that aren't part of the 0,2% that made it. Sorry anon.

>> No.3831541
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3831541

I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO DO SOMETHING USEFUL FOR YEARS BUT EVERYTHING LOOKS LIKE SHIT.

MAKING ART WAS MY DREAM BUT NOW ITS JUST A CHORE AND I HATE IT.

ALSO EVEN IF I WAS HALF DECENT AT IT, NOBODY CARES OR RESPECT THIS ANIME SHIT ANYWAYS.

I JUST WANTED TO SEE ANY REWARD FOR WORKING SO HARD EVERYDAY AND I SEE NOTHING. I HAVE NOTHING.

[screams in portuguese]

>> No.3831542
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>>3831372
I give them a sketch, allow one or two adjustments, and if they still don't like it, I refund them with no explanation and block them.

>> No.3831544

>>3831541
>NOBODY CARES OR RESPECT THIS ANIME SHIT ANYWAYS.
Maybe if your art looked more like anime and less like weird portugese stuff, your experience may have been different.

>> No.3831547

>>3831541
this >>3831544 lol

>> No.3831574

Nobody gives a shit about my drawings and it's pretty disheartening really.

>> No.3831576

>>3831541
nobody even cares about art in Brazil, the museums are always empty and mostly poorly maintained and people think Mona Lisa is the only painting ever made, not to mention Romero Britto.

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3831583

Posted on reddit the other day and linked my instagram in the coments
>26k greenies
>3 new followers

Whats the point?

>> No.3831608

>>3831583
Have you tried getting gud? Post link.

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>>3831608
It was just some shitty comic, not something I worked super hard on

https://imgur.com/n3eaDdN

>> No.3831640

>>3831583
What is a greenie?

>> No.3831660

>>3831640
Upvote/Karma

>> No.3831672

>drawing on and off for 4 years or so, but fairly consistently
>join art discord
>some random ass 15 year old just posts random doodles they do in mspaint that are 1000x better than anything I can do
it sucks. thank god nobody i know in real life sees my art.

>> No.3831673

>>3831532

wut?

>> No.3831675

My 3 months of sekrit japanese training is almost complete

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>>3831583
Reddit is the absolute worst place to advertise anon. Redditors being braindead "updoot xD and move on" isn't a meme. There's a reason they're on this cancerous website, it's because they're too lazy to branch out to other websites.

>> No.3831874

>>3831675
Interesting

>> No.3832202

How does everyone else improve so much faster than me? I don't know what's wrong with me every time I pick up my pencil and try drawing it feels awful. I know whatever I make is bad. I know whatever practice I do will look bad. Gestures, circles, boxes, lines, studies, no matter what it will look bad. Why does everyone else's stuff look good. What am I missing? Is it talent?

>> No.3832203

>>3823279
vent threads are for nu-/i/c ngmi anime pussies and you cant prove me wrong

whiny little bitch containment thread for why its unfair that youre not famous

>> No.3832210

>>3832203
Said the little bitch faggot nothing person :)

>> No.3832214

>>3830320
Post drawings/art gains and you're sure to get another boy.

>> No.3832215

>>3830320
I'm the same as you anon. Pining after a girl i've lost years ago. It fucking sucks

>> No.3832217

>>3831660
cringe

>> No.3832222

>>3832210
ow ow mommy he called me names
curse all you like you know its true bud.

post your art (you wont)

>> No.3832233

>>3832203
I forgot it’s illegal for people to have emotions

>> No.3832243

>>3832233
yeah thats what i said, i said it was illegal. glad you can read.

just a bunch of 17 year olds whining though about how they suck at drawing instead of practicing drawing and then wondering why they rent getting better despite spending 4+ hrs on 4chan a day

>> No.3832252

>>3832243
You’re making an unfair assumption saying that they’re spending 4 hours a day on 4chan. How do you know that they haven’t been practicing for the entire day up until making a single reply in this thread ? Art can be frustrating, let people vent

>> No.3832262

>>3832252
because ive been on this board forever an i know the kind of people who make and participate in these threads.

not a coincidence that these threads popped up for the first time in summer 2017, same time this board got pussified and weeb'd up.

now its all "dude CRABS hahaha get it" and people refusing to post work after being called out or going "you first", people like nosebro and illustrat, jiimmy, and brian shitting the place up with their attention seeking massive egos

board has gone to the dogs.

>> No.3832530

Nobody comments on my art anymore. Not to critique it, not to call it shit, nothing.

At least I'm getting more likes on pixiv now though

>> No.3832538

Im still a virgin and im 28. Do i get respect after a certain age? I heard this is the only way to become a wizard. Thus ive kept my viginity.

>> No.3832547

>>3832262
it's always been shit new memes don't change that nice venting btw
>back in my day
>like 2 years ago

>> No.3832554

>>3832202
Is drive (and also rampant self-worth issues but i'm no shrink)
Learn how to love art first, how to enjoy doing it and stop thinking that is a horrible chore made to make you suffer and then think about technicalities and learning new shit.

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>>3832203
ITT: All it requires for a nobody on 4chan to assume you don't work hard is to post in a thread he doesn't like.

Grow the fuck up.

>> No.3832992

>>3832547
>ill jump to any conclusion without thinking just to make a jab at you
try 11 fag

>> No.3832994

>>3832968
"like grow the fuck up, like oh my god just like go away"
"bye haterzzzz, bye felicia"
"like, y i k e s"

brainlet weeb trash

>> No.3833001

>>3832994
"Please stop posting things I don't like on my board! You're the one telling people to go away"
All I said was grow up. If you think something as little as venting means someone doesn't draw or they don't work hard, you need to grow up or stop being a one-trick pony because people can do multiple things at once, you whiny bitch.

You don't have to leave or go away. Just realize you're a whiny bitch who can't handle things he doesn't like, which also requires you to grow up and understand that things you don't like won't go away if you cry like a bitch every time they show up. Luckily this is the venting thread so you're free to. As long as you're aware that you're whining, which doesn't seem to be the case. The same can't be said for others, since that's the point of this thread.
If you can't handle it get off the internet.

>> No.3833007

>>3833001
>im sensible and calm, just admit youre a fucking faggot, cant you see that youre the one freaking out and im right

and all im telling you is to go fuck yourself, why are you so triggered\angry\freaking out?

relax :^)

>> No.3833018

>>3833007
You're the one telling me to go fuck my self, calling me a brainlet, etc. You're clearly projecting and it's painful to see.
You unironically seem mad, especially when you started in the thread whining.

>> No.3833023

>>3833018
sounds like youre projecting
you seem unironically, literally, sisncerely, upset and like you suck big cocks

why is that anon? want to talk about it? personally i dont like to suck fat cocks but i understand your lifestyle

unironically

>> No.3833029 [DELETED] 

>>3833023
So mad.

>> No.3833032 [DELETED] 

>>3833007
> :^)
Is so fucking embarrassing when kids come here thinking this is reddit

>> No.3833035

>>3833029
why are you projecting

>> No.3833038 [DELETED] 

>>3833032
i know dude, we should totally raid reddit and 9gag for stealing our memes
you got your guy fawkes mask /b/ro?

>> No.3833044 [DELETED] 

seething @everyone

>> No.3833069
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>>3823279
I don’t want to be looked down on for being a westerner drawing anime, but it can have the perfect balance of appeal and realistic body proportions. I haven’t really drawn anime intentionally, but my art seems to curving more toward it the more it refines itself. Again, you can have the expressiveness and emotion that appeal-heavy art does, while also having the flexibility for realistic action.
My interest is animation, specifically action, so being able to get a grip on both of those things is really important to me. I just want to have a balance between not being a copycat weeb, but also feeling free to use what works for my art.

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>>3831284
They litterally just removed my account wtf
I had some original work and some parody stuff posted.

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>>3823288

>> No.3833261

>>3832262
You cant draw though?

>> No.3833302

>>3833144
Whats their reason for banning you? I was planning on making an rb account too with parody designs

>> No.3833311

I hate how jealous I am of other artists.
Instead of focusing on improving my own work, I find myself constantly getting frustrated that my work isn't like theirs

>> No.3833317

Anyone else feel like shit because you're into art and not math, engineering, medicine, any lucrative field that tangibly contributes to society?

Any self hating artists here?

>> No.3833330

bump

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>>3833302
I'm not sure. I submitted a thing for manual review. It might have been a mistake. There is parody stuff all over the site I don't think it was that don't worry.

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3833376

What do you guys think of this curriculum?

>> No.3833379

>>3833376
That's /gd/.

>> No.3833380

>>3833317
One you enter the workforce you’ll struggle to find people who you would consider to have a net gain contribution to society. Artist is one of the better ones

>> No.3833382

>>3833317
If you don't think entertainment isn't one of the largest contributions to society, you're delusional. For a lot of people, there would be nothing else to live for other than entertainment. Just think about that.

>> No.3833384

>>3833380
Brain fart. Someone who has a net positive impact on society through their work is rare. Once you’ve been in the workforce for a decade it’ll be obvious what we’re all actually doing by working. An artist makes people happy at least.

>> No.3833386

>>3833382
>For a lot of people, there would be nothing else to live for other than entertainment.

What a world

>> No.3833389

>>3833362
>>3833302
The part that makes me the maddest is someone actually bought one of the shirts. Redbubble owes me $7.50

>> No.3833410
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3833410

>think my art is mediocre because of the brush I use and all my favorite artists just have great brushes
>Know deep down I'm just fucking shit

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3833452

im just trash I guess, I work on something new and I always forget some fundamental issues. it's like im holding 20 different theories in my head while drawing and I forget about something that completely ruins it. 4 years of doing this and I still keep setting myself back to learning the fundies to drill it into my head. im a brainlet failure

>> No.3833484

>>3833452
Dude you just have to learn to enjoy art, pause for a second with grinding fundies, and just draw something that makes you happy- it can be the most self indulgent shit possible like drawing yourself as a cool character. As long as what you actually like the subject you’re drawing, it should get you into art again

>> No.3833487

>>3833452
Same feeling today. I just thinking about several diffrent stuff when im drawing but forget to most important thing - feeling it instead thinking about shapes. Im really furious it requies some time for me to warm up to making good stuff. I catching myself at drawing absolute shit, making constant breaks at morning - afternoon. And at late evening i acctualy feeling better at drawing... and usually at this time my body just requies sleep. Im feeling like God making joke of me.

>> No.3833490

>>3833317
>tfw both stem and artfag
bye losers

>> No.3833493

>>3833362
Are manual reviews a thing in rb now? I used to submit shit before without any mods reviewing it. Also what IP did you parody?

>> No.3833734

>>3833493
Manual review of the account getting removed not of a design itself. Evangelion and Netflix

>> No.3833950

>>3823279
I usually go to Draw Threads and take requests I like, I even tell the requester but in the end I keep the drawings for myself because I see the other recognized drawfriends in there and my dick shrinks

>> No.3834174

Still waiting for the manual review on red bubble. If I try to login now it shows the message in different languages each time.

>> No.3834259

>draw face in frog perspective
>reference is sexy and slender
>drawing looks fat and pignosed

>> No.3834295

>Get told by first year college kids that I'm still a beginner and just haven't been drawing long enough to get good, unlike them who have been drawing for the past few years...

>The fact that you're not see as working hard enough, and lazy

>The actual fact that you've been drawing since before they were in diapers.

>The fact when......eh whatever I suck.

>> No.3834310

>>3833452
>4 years of doing this and I still keep setting myself back to learning the fundies

Feel that. Been at this for 12 years now. Professional work, and school....and yet still cant achieve a level above a high schooler who began a year ago.

>> No.3834421

>do 15 minutes of intensive repaint, fix all the issues my work had in one go, everything looks super fantastic
>go to save
>krita crashes
>AS I SAVE IT, KRITA FUCKING CRASHES FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER
>relaunch, no recovery option
>okay fine did it once I can do it again
>go to paint, keeps fucking up, everything fucking up
>have to walk away from laptop at that point
>come back, rageclose everything, restart entire rig
>start repainting what I can remember that I did
>just doesn't look as good as it did
>really laggy when I color-pick, have to wait a moment before I can lay down a stroke after it
>wary as hell of this shit now, saving every hot minute
>still doesn't look as good as it did
Fuck there is NOTHING more frustrating.
and dont say some dumb shit like hurr should have saved because it crashed AS I WAS SAVING
I will never not be mad

>> No.3834427

>>3826580
that shit happens on tumblr (fuck twatter, its interface is cancer) where you follow someone and then they post 99 memes and political whining bullshit when you came there for art. i just unfollow at that point. I don't have a single post on my page that isn't my own drawing. social media is all cancer, all of it.
>>3834421
and it still doesn't look like it did and I am still fucking mad

>> No.3834571

Every day I feel like I get worse and worse

>> No.3834668
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I wish someone would just pay me to vector their artwork. Is there some kind of job title for something like that?

>> No.3835419
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3835419

Still waiting on that redbubble account review to try and get it back...

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I am never satisfied. Feels like shit. Good results though.

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3835788

>Build up the courage to finaly show my work. Expecting to get critsism so I can improve my work, and opertunity to ask questions. End up being ignored and talking to myself majority of the day.

I'm so desperate to talk about this stuff with someone to get advice, because everyone i know irl doesn't care about this stuff.

>> No.3835811

>>3835788
Where did you post it?

>> No.3835840

>>3835811
I think this is how you post links to threads >>3835428 (I'm new to 4chan so forgive my ignorance)

Either way it's plautena in the nsfw thread.

>> No.3835953

>>3835840
I'm not expert (especially on nsfw stuff) but some points I would say to work on is the boob placement. The boob on the left looks a bit too far to the right. The hand needs some work. The leg on the right looks a bit too thin and your lines are a bit shaky. It aint bad though. Do you hve any other art examples?

>> No.3835956

New Thread
>>3835955

>>3835955

>>3835955

>>3835955