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I’ve never taken a art class in my life. What basic of basic fundamentals should I learn? If i should go to thread just link and I’ll go there.

>> No.3817487

Just draw.

>> No.3817489

Unironically loomis.

>> No.3817496

>>3817486
There is a /beg/ thread specifically for this. The OP has resources for new artists

>> No.3817497

>>3817489
Fuck off.
>>3817486
OP don't listen to this cunt. If you want to draw people, start off by doing perspective + form exercises (scott robertson, drawabox) and figure drawing exercises (gesture, hampton, bammes) at the same time. In terms of basic basic fundamentals though, line, form and perspective should be your biggest focus for now. Don't worry about anatomy until you're more confident with those three.

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3817499

>>3817489
Not sure if loomis was a meme or not, I started doing “Fun with a pencil”. Should I continue that or a different one?

>> No.3817500

>>3817489
Fuck off dumbass

>> No.3817505

>>3817497
Thanks I’ll start looking into those. I’m assuming there’s resources in the beginners guide?

>> No.3817510

>>3817496
Must have missed it, thanks I’ll go check it out.

>> No.3817511

>>3817499
Loomis books are okay, but don't fall into the meme of ONLY relying on his books. Look at other sources of information at the same time, such as Hampton, Bammes etc like >>3817497 said. And always do your basic exercises, like drawing pages of boxes, construction from observation, other perspective stuff and gesture

>> No.3817537

Just learn simple forms, bro. Everything is just forms.

>> No.3817552

>>3817505
Yes and also check out the sticky

>> No.3817554

>>3817537
Don't forget to feel them

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>>3817486
perspective is the first and most important thing every beginner should learn. i feel like this get looked over because beginners condition themselves into thinking that perspective zero relevance to anything that isn't a building or box shaped structure.

>> No.3817840

>>3817497
>bammes
>Don't worry about anatomy
Is not bammes anatomy, though?

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>>3817840
Most of his books are anatomy, but I'm talking about his life drawing books (and the great information about proportion and construction within)

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>>3817497
>recommending Scott Robertson to beginners
You better be trolling. It’s way too advanced...

>> No.3817922

>>3817917
So how do I go when I have artists using different constructions for figure drawing? Should I use each one based on the book I'm studying(bammes's construction when I'm studying his book, hampton's construction when I'm studying his book...)?

>> No.3817927

>>3817922
Yeah, just learn different construction methods to see which one works for you - learning and gaining more knowledge through experience can only be a good thing. After studying enough you eventually get a sense of which methods suit you the most.

>> No.3817930

>>3817927
Ok. Thanks, anon.

>> No.3817981

>>3817613
no it's not. that's for architects.

>> No.3818911

>>3817613
This book has TONS of text in it. How do I fucking read it without wasting time on the worthless narrative?

>> No.3818916

>>3817919
It's better for beginners than Loomis is.

There, I said it.

>> No.3818919

>>3817919
His exercises start off very simple and slowly easy you into more perspective techniques. He even explains every single aspect behind his methods, unlike Loomis' cryptic texts.

>> No.3818922

>>3817919

Scott is way easier for me than loomis

>> No.3818925

>>3817487
Does drawing every day really improve your drawing skills? Seems like a meme to me. Like randomly banging the keys on a piano expecting to produce music

>> No.3818936

>>3818925
ONLY drawing every day is not enough, no. This is one of the biggest lies this place perpetuates (right up there with Loomis being good). I'd argue thinking about drawing is better than drawing mindlessly every day, hands down.

>> No.3818937

>>3818925
It's more about building up a habit of drawing everyday so that you can improve consistently. Although you should always draw with a purpose, e.i. have a goal in mind that you want to achieve by the end of a drawing session or a couple

>> No.3818947

>>3818936
Not OP but can I just skip Loomis if I find it boring and overly simple? So far I prefer the more analytical books that you guys mentioned.

>> No.3818955

>>3818947
Absolutely, although you'll have to get used to the fact that doing studies and exercises will get boring after a while. Mix it up by applying what you're learning to actual pieces while you're studying.

>> No.3818957

>>3818916
You can say it alright, but you'll be wrong.

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>>3818957
>you'll be wrong

>> No.3818988

>>3817981
>>3818911
You guys made me smile, thanks. Pretty odd to think there are beginner artists that unironically think like that, huh?

>> No.3818999

>>3818988
Fuck, I'm not that good at english when it comes to specialized language. I don't understand some of the exercises.

>> No.3819008

>>3818999
watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upxBGNcryRs
It's very basic, but breaks down the general idea of how grids and perspective will improve your drawings.

>> No.3819010

Anatomy and perspective. That's it.

>> No.3819030

>>3819008
Watched it and subscribed. These guys are awesome. Thanks anon.

>> No.3819584

>>3819008
woah this was very helpful
>>3818988

not him but i also have a hard time trying to read something so videos are good .

>> No.3819640

>>3819008
das it mane

>> No.3819650

>>3817489
i gotta say, i (tried to) read fun with a pencil years ago and i joined the "fuck loomisposters" bandwagon, but his head and hands book is fucking excellent and i'm starting to rethink things.

truthfully, i should second guess EVERYTHING i see on here

>> No.3819652

>>3817486
I would start with DAB
if you want to draw human no source is better for beginner than Steve Huston book
if you can go to NMA for Steve and Vippu figure courses
pick it up then draw from life

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>>3817486
First ditch that shitty tutorial pic and wipe it off your system.

Gotta second this anon >>3817613 , perspective is what separates amateurs and real artists.
You should read the sticky post on this board as well, it links back to a helpful beginners guide for the basics.
A very useful channel for art on YouToube is also Proko. He teaches many important art fundamentals and anatomy in video format, so make sure to watch these.

You should not forget to practice basic shapes. Cubes, Spheres, Cylinders and other basic 3D Shapes, everything in the World can be broken down into different variations and combinations of these shapes. For beginners it is important to simply complex structures into simple ones, simplifying the ribcage into a Cube, simplifying the arms into cylinders etc.
When drawing something you must first break the thing you want to draw down into basic 3D shapes and then build on top of that foundation. This is an important thing to remember. Don’t fall into drawing lines and contours exclusively. Think 3D, and imagne eveything you draw as 3D.

That’s all I can come up with right now, so good lick from here on, anon.
Becoming good at art is a long, tedious, time consuming process but if you want it you can do it.

Right now, as a beginner, focus on 3D Shapes, Structure, Gesture and Perspective.
Don’t get too much into complex anatomy yet. It might distract you. You only need to know about the basic proportions of the average human body.

>> No.3819668

>>3819663
There is not a single reason to watch Proko instead of the Watts online course.

>> No.3819671

>>3819663
>3D Shapes

>> No.3819708

>>3817497
>Robertson
This is how to make someone not want to draw anymore. Some anime posting fag isn't going to want to do some autistic Scott Robertson shit.

Dynamic sketching > all. For beginners anyway.

>> No.3819714

>>3819708
...or you could do them at the same time? also
>anime posting fag
>autistic Scott Robertson shit
sounding real convincing there huh, opinion disregarded lol