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Does anyone actually care about the Rossdraws drama?

>> No.3796025

>>3796022
No, I didn't even know about it. Tell us what happened. Did he accidentally say "nigger" on stream or something?

>> No.3796028

>>3796025
he traced without credit and people on twitter are freaking out

>> No.3796043

>>3796028
Oh yeah, looks like ic's favorite funny comedian has already release a video about it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAavbMyEU_E

>> No.3796045

>>3796022
>Does anyone actually care

well, I don't come to /ic/ to look at you guy's art

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>>3796022
Good to know that this obnoxious soulless gook is worse than me at art.

>> No.3796053

>>3796028
>twitter are freaking out
when arent they?

>> No.3796067

>>3796028
>>3796043
I dont approve the idea that an artist has to credit shit. because art is ideas communication, and, contrary to what those which like to be in control say, ideas should be free. In an iideas free circulation world ppl are smarter, competition is more fairplay, and there is less redundant repetition in projects and studies.

also because my ref folder is made up mainly by "1546458145232.jpg" files and I cant be bothered to knowr the source of a pic

>> No.3796069

>>3796067
>ideas should be free

Copying/tracing/overpainting photos isn't "ideas". It's obviously fine for outright photo studies but if you use reference that you don't own and it can be recognized in your finished work, your art is less valuable. Doubly so when you "forget" to mention that you used reference and try to present your art as your original work. When people stumble upon the original reference image (as someone is bound to do on pinterest sooner or later) they are going to be disappointed and realize you are a fraud.

>> No.3796070

>can we please talk about this newest e-drama like the faggot ngmis that we are?
fix'd

>> No.3796080

>>3796070

I like drama threads and I draw 100x better than you'll ever manage.

>> No.3796081

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BL9XSjBuwt0

better video
Ross painted from a stock photo artist on deviantart (you know one of those who have a ton of photos up that you can use for reference under the condition that you give credit) and she asked him for credit, but he did not comply

>> No.3796082

>>3796080
Faggot ngmi nonetheless

>> No.3796085

>>3796028
Why is every big digital artist a fucking hack in some way, shape or form? I only follow a few comic/manga artists but every time I come here, I find out that ANOTHER digital painter is a tracer/photobasher/

>> No.3796097

>>3796080
post work tough guy

>> No.3796099

>>3796069
your ideas of what constitutes "idea" and "value" are screwed

an idea is any kind of information, no matter its quantity or quality. only because something is not new to you, it does not make change what it is. Ideas are not what you perceive, but the sum of all you can and could perceive.

the same goes for value of ideas. only because your perceived value of something is low, that's only because you have an abundance of it and others might not. If you value the skill it went into making something, then a trace is something of low value for you, but if you are somebody who values pretty pictures, regardless of the amount of effort put into it, then tracing is only another tool in your shed.

>> No.3796101

>>3796085
all good artists are thieves, some just havent been caught yet

>> No.3796109

>>3796099

Nice word salad. Bottomline is regardless that your work is less original and valuable if it's based on photographs shot and composed by someone else.

>> No.3796112

>>3796109
and so what? why are you saying it like that's a problem?

>> No.3796115

>>3796112

I'm assuming people here on this board want to actually git gud

>> No.3796171

>>3796085
they spent their time promoting themselves and not challenging their art. That's why the best artists imo are pretty unknown

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He's just another ilya. They trace images all the time.

>> No.3796255

Never heared of him so I went to watch his videos.
Why do Asians not have souls?

>> No.3796322

>>3796022
Oh boy, shitty art youtubers delighted to get easy views making e-drama vids about other, more popular, shitty art youtubers.
That Dangle'O Wallace faggot is even commenting on them to try get more views again, I wish people would fuck off with drama vids instead of getting gud and having something useful to offer.

>> No.3796359

>>3796081
OK not gonna bother to watch it till the end, but so far he says that ross didn't credit models- not a word about tracing.

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>>3796081
>you can use for reference under the condition that you give credit
This bitch is fucking retarded.

>> No.3796364

>>3796217
wtf!

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>>3796217
>ref

>> No.3796374

>>3796043
Stop posting this furry

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RossDraws? More like RossTraces

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>>3796022
He's been tracing for a long time but everyone will forgive him because he's a kawaii gay asian boy who loves to crossdress. A literal tumblr dream.

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>it's another /ic/ discovers professional artists use reference thread
>>3796376
that's clearly not traced

>> No.3796399

>>3796376
I'm not surprised when artists are caught tracing, but I am confused when they are caught tracing for drawings that should be simple to execute. This is just a bust drawing.

>> No.3796400

>>3796022
I'd rather give credit to the actual phtographer than the thot instamodel

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>>3796396
Did you just compare rossdraws to fucking Zorn?

>> No.3796408

>>3796022
>caring about eceleb drama
woman detected

>> No.3796409

>>3796396

There is a world of difference between using photos that you have shot and composed for reference vs overpainting photos of cosplayers and instathots. How fucking stupid are you?

>> No.3796412

>>3796363

That's pretty standard ettiquette for free resources on the internet regardless if they are textures, 3d models or photographs etc.

>> No.3796413

>>3796399
>I am confused when they are caught tracing for drawings that should be simple to execute.
laziness caused by greed. the faster he puts out vids and posts, the faster he gets google/facebook ad bux

>> No.3796425

>>3796081
Wait, they are intended to be stock photos? then fuck em, either sell them to a stock photo site, or fuck off. it's a "request" to credit her cause she has no grounds to demand it.

>> No.3796427

>>3796425

It's been common courtesy when you provide free resources on the internet for decades now. It makes you look like a douche and hack if you try to to sneak it under the radar.

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>>3796412
When those textures, models and photos are used directly in your work.
If we assume that Ross just referenced her photo, she has nothing to bitch about. Not a single pixel of her picture made it into the final work.
And if he traced that one, she has no more reasons to bitch about it than anyone else.
He could've painted over literally any cosplayer thot suggested by google. She just happened to be the first one in his "reference" folder.

>> No.3796442

>>3796431
Then send me your picture, anon. I'll trace it, paint a dick in your mouth, then share to my 100k followers and get money on my Patreon. Still think your image doesn't have conditions for use? Her conditions were "do whatever, but at least give credit". Not only it's her personal image, but the photo production too. It's not like Ross is going to be sued, but his reputation will rightfully go to shit.

>> No.3796450

>>3796431
>Not a single pixel of her picture made it into the final work.

That is not the standard by which copyright infringement of this sort is judged.

https://copyrightlitigation.blogspot.com/2010/03/4th-circuit-fine-art-paintings-from.html

https://www.diyphotography.net/painter-found-guilty-plagiarism-painting-photo/

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>>3796022
I've realized this many times before, but this thread just goes to show how unbelievably pathetic /ic/ is. Just like everyone on twitter and instagram, this is being blown out of proportion as if Ross just raped a disabled child. I don't really understand why people are getting so offended by this. I personally think his art is pretty generic, but he's definitely skilled and it took a lot of effort and determination to get where he currently is. And now all of that is being disregarded because he traced a couple times - now everyone is acting like he's been tracing his entire life. It really just goes to show how crabs love to find any excuse to put people beneath themselves. If you need to do this to feel better about yourself, you're genuinely pathetic, really.

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>>3796022
I've realized this many times before, but this thread just goes to show how unbelievably pathetic /ic/ is. Just like everyone on twitter and instagram, this is being blown out of proportion as if Ross just raped a disabled child. I don't really understand why people are getting so offended by this. I personally think his art is pretty generic and his whole youtube persona is fucking irritating, but he's definitely skilled and it took a lot of effort and determination to get where he currently is. And now all of that is being disregarded because he traced a couple times - now everyone is acting like he's been tracing his entire life. It really just goes to show how crabs love to find any excuse to put people beneath themselves. If you need to do this to feel better about yourself, you're genuinely pathetic, really.

>> No.3796468

>>3796460
Idiot. When you get popular you get increased scrutiny. People give Ross money because of that persona you dislike. If his persona (rather than his art) proves to be untrustworthy, people will rightfully punish him for it.
Got it? He's selling his persona as well as his art. His persona is the product. If the product is not what advertised, people will shit on it/demand refunds.

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>>3796460
>And now all of that is being disregarded because he traced a couple times
>a couple times

>> No.3796515

>>3796101
What about Artists who draw from imagination like KJG and others who paint from life? What are they stealing?
I assume you wrote this to ease the guilt you feel about all the works you've stolen so far.

>> No.3796521

>>3796045
toppest kek

>> No.3796530

Honest question, not salty or anything (I'm a hobbyist, don't even have a blog or anywhere to post)
Why are there so many people defending ross? Do you guys do the same? (i.e trace/paintover pictures or draws)?

>> No.3796539

>>3796396
>clearly not traced
Hi kyle

>> No.3796727

>>3796067
bullsht You say that because you don't have anything worth shit.

if you had any good idea you would be bitching about people stealing for you

>> No.3796747

>>3796028
I’m already tracer xD

>> No.3796749

>>3796043
Nuh uh I ain’t giving that nigger a click

>> No.3796795

>>3796400
You should give credit to the copyright holder.

>>3796530
Tracing and doing paintovers is fine, professional artists do it, but you have to credit the author of the original.

>> No.3796801

>>3796425
She has grounds to demand it actually, she holds the copyright.

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>>3796442
If you stumble upon my picture in google feel free to do whatever the fuck you want with it. I can't (and don't want to) do shit about that except laughing at your /beg/ traced shit.

>>3796450
>copyright infringement
>standard
Lmao. Copyright laws are clusterfuck of arbitrary nonsensical bullshit.
Rare cases of delusional photards going full buttblasted jew and abusing this broken system for easy shekels still isn't good enough reason to feed their bloated ego every single time.

>> No.3796827

>>3796085
>Why is every big digital artist a fucking hack in some way, shape or form?

Because there's a very high demand for them to produce awesome artwork under tight deadlines and with no room for failure. Even the best artists produce duds some of the time, but when you're a pro and there's so much competition for every job, you can't let yourself be known as the pro who sometimes fails to produce great work. So you cheat, because it's your job and the client doesn't give a shit as long as the work is good, and only art nerds like us even notice you cheating.

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LMAO
This is /ic/ dream in realty.
Now you need to give credit to every piece of reference you find in Internet.
Isn't this is perfect? It's great time to copyright (tm) poses and angles. No hacks allowed.

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3796844

When you draw people on the street who gives you right to draw them?

>> No.3796845

>>3796043
i hate that smug nigga

>> No.3796848

>>3796727
I give my ideas for free on /ic/, not my fault they dont find them worthy

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>>3796028
how has this only come out now?
We've known this for years now.

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To be honest this looks like another new """""western"""" trend. Especially after "Plastic Love" cover photographer (who has no rights to this photo) DMCAed video on youtbue. After 33 years.
Not only you need to suck cocks 24/7 (you're not _______fobic right? but now you need to respect instawhores. Fuck western women.

>> No.3796869

>>3796376
No rules... only tools.

>> No.3796872

>>3796844
You can draw them, you even have the right to photograph them, but if you publish your photos or drawings (so long as the likeness is clear), they can demand you to remove the pictures, or give credit.

>> No.3796875

>>3796872
But all artists did this. I mean traditional artists. Even Old Masters.

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>> No.3796880

>>3796875
Yeah, and nobody gives a fuck, it's just that technically the people you draw can demand you to not publish their pictures. Also, "Old Masters" paid their models.

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>> No.3796885

>>3796880
>Old Masters" paid their models.
You can see sketches of random people that was later used in paintings.

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>> No.3796897

>>3796885
As I said, nobody gives a fuck. Plus, that before modern copyright laws. But even today, most people don't care, especially since they will probably be barely recognizable in the final work.

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>>3796839
Lol did sattou really do that?

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>> No.3796935

>>3796827
>Because there's a very high demand for them to produce awesome artwork under tight deadlines and with no room for failure. Even the best artists produce duds some of the time, but when you're a pro and there's so much competition for every job, you can't let yourself be known as the pro who sometimes fails to produce great work. So you cheat, because it's your job and the client doesn't give a shit as long as the work is good, and only art nerds like us even notice you cheating.
that makes sense in the context of client work, but there's no reason why Ross is tracing images for his instagram posts and Youtube videos. He has no pressing deadlines to meet there. Why go through all the trouble? He's lazy and fucking stupid. It's like Jeff Bezos shoplifting at a dollar store.

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>> No.3796972

>>3796935
>He has no pressing deadlines to meet there.
producing work regularly is very important for gaining popularity, look at how regularly sakimichan posts work, look at how often pewdiepie uploads videos.

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>> No.3797011

>>3796409
tbf nobody outside of autists cares

>> No.3797015

>>3796431
Actually his picture looks exactly the same as the picture of the model, and its not transformative in any way outside of looking drawn.

>> No.3797023

>>3796853
The pic you used doesnt illustrate the issue at all

>> No.3797025

>>3796972
>producing work regularly is very important for gaining popularity look at how regularly sakimichan posts work, look at how often pewdiepie uploads videos.
That's not a hard deadline. Ross, SakimiChan, and PewDiePie could disappear from the internet for an entire year and not end their careers. There are many artists who don't post every single day and remain relevant. Also if your income is entirely dependent on Youtube or Patreon you're doing it wrong.

>> No.3797027

>>3797025
t. irrelevant person

>> No.3797043

Whats crazy about facebook, and all of the exposure online in general, is that you’re almost not allowed to grow in a sense anymore. At least not without being scrutinized to some extent by peers. When you were coming up before the internet you could be anyone you wanted to your small group of friends. You could have any style, copy anybody, take on as many influences as you like without anybody saying you’re unoriginal. But having a stage like this and starting out learning to be an artist is so strange and I think it hurts development by quite a bit. Waiting to be different before exploring the things you love in fear of being ridiculed as another rip off is almost a non starter.

That being said, even if you are ridiculed but keep going you’ll eventually realize that this is just a small bubble in the industry. The rest of the world doesn’t know or care for the most part about how you got to where you are, what you used to paint/draw like. They’re just going to know the person you became and gained notoriety for being.

All I’m saying is that because this is the new normal being online in these groups, you have to have thicker skin and not worry about being described as another clone of someone else on your way up to being who you will become. Just keep your head down and focus on what you enjoy.

I am also full of shit and you don’t have to listen to me, but I love you, I promise.

>> No.3797063

>>3796853
>Implying you can copyright poses

>> No.3797070

>>3797015
The what difference is it when people draw pictures of people in their 'style'? We know who it's meant to be.

>> No.3797089

>>3797070
It's not even overly stylized, nigger

>> No.3797160

>>3796801
oh I know she has it, but unless there is a significant financial insensitive you can't enforce it. Copyright cases are prohibitively expensive. every meme image you've ever seen is Under Copyright, a hell of a lot of them arn't transformative, but you can't afford to hunt them all down.

>> No.3797416

IT'S EASY :
you just finished your drawing and it has elements that are really close to your reference?
Just say "based on [author/artwork name/URL]" in its description. Also, check if the OG artist is ok with this before starting.

Don't want to deal with this? Do your own thing.
Don't see the problem with it? Imagine that your own artwork that took hours of work gets a >90% replica and the author says "yup,it's all me",as if you didn't exist.

>> No.3797426

>>3796925
>>3796927
That's Sakimichan level spine breaking there.

>> No.3797427

>>3797063
you dumbass it's not about the pose, it's about the fact that he obviously traced the images in the laziest way possible. if you're gonna copy people's work you could at least try to not make it so obvious.

>> No.3797531

>>3796022
Nope, couldn't give a shit.
Also the dude literally photobashes, how is tracing crossing the line for him now?
Whatever, heard he apologized too so I especially don't give a shit.

>> No.3797575

>>3796376
This is stylized enough to count as referenced portrait/cartooning.

>> No.3797579

>>3797575
That's not how it works

>> No.3797580

>>3796043
Stop shilling your channel, retard.

>> No.3797584

>>3797025
It's not a hard deadline in the sense that something is due to someone at a certain time, but social media artists need to shit out content constantly to get picked up by the algorithms of the sites they're on + get adbucks. So this creates a problem; the artist becomes more worried about shitting out pictures than getting fundamentals right by themselves.

>> No.3797703

I'd opt for niggers to be b& from posting in this board. especially this one right here >>3796043

>> No.3797709

>>3796408
either fucking this or underage pl*bbitors

>> No.3797719
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>>3797023
Maybe not, but using elbow design done by other concept artist on your character (as a part of... elbow design) is just as bad as tracing IMHO.

>> No.3797906

>>3797584
>social media artists need to shit out content constantly to get picked up by the algorithms of the sites they're on + get adbucks.
aaand that's why you shouldn't rely heavily on social media for your income. look at the tumblr bullshit or how many channels youtube randomly decided to shut down or demonetize (art related and not). I'm not saying to never post on social media. It's just a bad business model to chain yourself to because they don't give a damn about the content creators. An artist is better off building a strong client base offline, selling prints, etc. and just using social media to drive people to their own pages. that way you can be focused on making quality work instead of rushing to trace enough images in time so you can get your next adbux check.

>> No.3797930

The pol/ic/e is at it again!

>> No.3797943
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3797943

>expecting a ricenigger to have any sense of ethics or morality

My sides

>> No.3797957

i dont why are u guys shocked he have been doing this for years only the normies now noticed and tumblrfags resident on twitter realized that he might be manipulating an image..

>> No.3797965

>>3796376
>GOOK!
??????

>> No.3797981

>/ic/ defending thots
I thought "60% of /ic/ are roasties" was just a joke

>> No.3797984

>>3796515
they are stealing from life itself

>> No.3797987

>>3797957
Photobashing and paintovers are his thing, that's not the issue. The issue is that he doesn't credit the author of the original.

>> No.3798247

>>3797089
But, I can tell it's draw by him.

>> No.3798266

>>3796022
I don't know who that is, I don't know what happened, and I don't care lmao

>> No.3798267

>>3798266
wow. upvoted

>> No.3798307

>>3797089
Implying you can't tell it's from Ross, Cracker.

>> No.3798329
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3798329

why would you shift from this...

>> No.3798332
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>>3798329
...to generic shit like this

>> No.3798333

>>3798329
>>3798332
likes

>> No.3798335

>>3798333
sad desu

>> No.3798354

>>3798332
because he's a flaming homosexual who got smacked around by his dad, so it's only natural that he wants validation more than anything.

https://youtu.be/jxVfsG8srqA

>> No.3798360

>>3798332
He wants to be the new Sakimichan

>> No.3798378

>>3798329
Woah SO EPIC
non generic at all

>> No.3798435
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>>3796099
ngmi or gmi but get fired after a day

>> No.3798443

>>3798329
>>3798332
Both are equally generic, you fucking cretin.

>> No.3798979

>>3797984
>The reasoning skill of /ic/ summarized in one post

>> No.3798995

to be honest, ross tran art looks good and appealing
no point seething over this

>> No.3799054
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3799054

>>3797987
>twitter normies care more about some thot's ego than artist's scam and incompetence

>> No.3799139

>>3796022
I don’t get it
If Ross is such a good artist
Why does he need to trace at all?

>> No.3799244

>>3798329
>Adventures of the stick salesman
How not generic.

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>>3798995
But he is popular and successful, I'm not gonna improve myself so why not be mad at someone who improved themselves?

>> No.3799397

>>3796028
>tracing
That's his entire fucking thing
Takes a picture and draws over it being le funny youtube man the entire time.

>> No.3799437

I find it hilarious that all the digital fags always tout their “draw from imagination” method as superior, then defend FUCKING TRACING AS LEGITIMATE!
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAAH!

>> No.3799464

>>3798329
>>3798332
Those are both trash, faggot.

>>3798333
>>3798335
>>3798354
Kill yourself.

>> No.3799469

>>3799437
Tracing is a legitimate technique of traditional art.

>> No.3799471

>>3799139
>Why does he need to trace at all?
because he's a slave to social media and what normies think of him.

>> No.3800057

>>3798329
Fantasy enviroments are the most generic and boring shit. Real landscapes commonly beat them by miles.

>> No.3800062

>>3799469
((((legitimate))))

>> No.3800311

>>3798332
is this guy scared to draw hands or something?

>> No.3800327

>>3799469
Maybe in the process of transferring an ORIGINAL drawing to canvas in order to paint your own original drawing.
But in that case, you have already made the drawing yourself.
Why am I even answering your post, this is rediculous.

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>>3796022
is tracing drawing lines on the object?

>> No.3802409 [DELETED] 

>>3796043
i can't take this faggot he's fucking trash
i hope he gets niggeraids

>> No.3802438

>>3796376
Is everybody blind or most of the posters here are /beg/ retards that can't draw for shit? The jaw, eyes and hair have a different shape, it's obviously not traced fucking blind retards

>> No.3802462

>>3802438
Get your eyes checked anon, sounds like it might be serious

>> No.3802469

>>3802438
People who use the word "traced" in this thread are fucking idiots, but you are p dumb too. It's a paintover. It doesn't take as much effort to do a paintover and change few details. There's nothing wrong with a paintover but if the ref is still recognisable you gotta link it.

>> No.3802475

>>3797906
>YOURE MAKING TONS OF MONEY THE WRONG WAY
>what you should be doing is slaving away for individual furries paying you chump change for their fursonas sucking dicks

>> No.3802483

>>3796413
which is weird because he didn't even pump out art that fast

>> No.3802592

This "give credit" is bullshit and you all know it.
Why everyone pretending to be some kind of saint? In fucking /ic/? When I pick references I don't give a fuck about photographers and models. Especially camwhores

>> No.3802607 [DELETED] 

>>3802592
no one gives credit so they support who ever took the picture
unless you're as big as Sakimi then you're not gonna make another person viral by using them as a reference
people show their reference so people don't jump to the conclusion that it's done with no reference it's to prevent yourself getting exposed if you have a mid range following

>> No.3802614

>>3802607
>people show their reference
It's new trend.

>> No.3802639

>>3796022
it's all didn't matter now
he admits that he was wrong and sorry
https://twitter.com/Rossdraws/status/1092483273882628097
discussion over now get back to drawing you fags

>> No.3802643

>>3802639
That's great, good on him. What I hate is that there are literal 13 and 14 year olds acting all condecending like "you apologised and owned up to your mistakes, I forgive you". That just pisses me off to no end.

>> No.3802659

>>3802607
>unless you're as big as Sakimi then you're not gonna make another person viral by using them as a reference
lol

>> No.3802661

>>3802639
He's so full of shit. It's exactly like the "youtube apology video" 101.

>> No.3802662
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>> No.3803144

>>3802662
That shows it's not traced...

>> No.3803158

>>3802475
>what you should be doing is slaving away for individual furries paying you chump change for their fursonas sucking dicks
is that your life anon? i feel sorry for you.

>> No.3803171

>>3802469
Have you ever done a study? If your study is close to the original did you trace? paintover? No, you just captured the reference correctly. Fuck you and all the other shitty artists on this board.

>> No.3804839

>>3796022
Only people that envy his fame will i.e. other youtube drawfags. If no one would've spoken up, nobody would have cared.
Also his art's generic/boring and kinda hard on the eyes but normies gobble it up
>cuz if its shiny it must be good
and continue giving him money/views etc. and good for him, i guess.

>> No.3804846

>>3796022
>alle he draws are shitty uguu anime girl portraits
>he's done it for years and he's still so shit that he needs to trace
how can one be so fucking pathetic holy shit?

>> No.3804852

>>3804839
Say what you want about his work but his handling of shapes/composition is objectively pretty good

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>>3804852
That's the most non-argument i've ever witnessed in my shitty life.

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>>3803144
>Take picutre
>Trace it/Paint over it
>Use liquify tool so that it wont align anymore
>"Now it's no longer traced/painted over, because it doesn't align, you see?"
>Be Kyle

>> No.3805047

>>3804846
>how can one be so fucking pathetic holy shit?
it's fast money, that's all he cares about.

>> No.3805172

>>3804931
If it doesn't alling, it's not traced. It's not that difficult of a concept to understand.

>> No.3805209

>>3796376
This ain't a trace, you dumbfuck.

>> No.3805234

>>3796043
dis nibba be actually illustard. mark my word