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[Anonymous No.3790132]

How do I design plausible mechanical features without studying mechanical engineering?

Are there "anatomy" books or similar ressources for mechanical design that tell you when a certain style of joint is used and when not?

[Anonymous No.3790133]

Scott Robertson "How to Draw"

[Anonymous No.3790157]

>>3790133
Fuck off you retarded parrot.

>>3790132
>How do I design plausible mechanical features without studying mechanical engineering?
>books
Unfortunately no, I don't know of any books about that; if you'll find any later, please post. Most people make do with references from google, watching documentaries, going to museums etc.

[Anonymous No.3790159]

https://www.gutenberg.org/files/58391/58391-h/58391-h.htm

[Anonymous No.3790167]

>>3790159
Nice starting point for researching and studying individual parts, thanks

[Anonymous No.3790186]

>>3790159
Thanks, this is awesome

[Anonymous No.3790187]

>>3790159
thanks anon, i sent you some nudes

[Anonymous No.3790190]

>>3790132
learn technical drawing

[Anonymous No.3790196]

You don't.

Artists have to know more Anatomy than surgeons, more Mechanics than engineers, more Architecture than architects, more Biology than a veterinarian, more Optics than a physicist, more Mythology and Weaponry than a historian.

All for a fraction of the salary.
Welcome to drawing.

[Anonymous No.3790209]

>>3790132
Gumroad John Park - Mech Design Bundle Package covers a lot of the basic joints and operations for them in the first part of these videos.

[Anonymous No.3790232]

>>3790132
How do I study mechanical engineering? Where do I start?

[Anonymous No.3790234]

>>3790132
Build gundam models

[Anonymous No.3790268]

>>3790196
>Artists have to know
Artists don't have to know any of this. You don't need to master any of these things to be a successful artist.

Not all artists are illustrators who work very realistically, technically and precisely. Don't make such large, blanket statements about what it means to be an artist.

[Anonymous No.3790294]

>>3790196

That's not even true, what a retard you are, you're generalizing so hard it hurts as well. Le art is hard xdd man

Art anatomy is wildly different then surgical anatomy i don't know why you spread that disinformation, very few artists if any at all can actually do architecture at a sufficient level these days also, drawing weeboo fantasy buildings that you copy and paste from pictures doesn't count.

I can go on and on but you're actually stupid, this isn't the 16th century anymore.

[Anonymous No.3790320]

>>3790294
This will make you really happy.

Dude created more more than 2700 animations of various mechanisms, sliding doors, gear transmission, levers, whatever you want.
https://www.youtube.com/user/thang010146/featured

There is also a pdf with description, still picture and a link to yt vid.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/6db2ju5ck75ce6x/2700AMMePDF.zip

[Anonymous No.3790322]

>>3790268
>>3790294
guys, why take the bait? everybody can smell that shit from the catalog

[Anonymous No.3790328]

>>3790268
>>3790294
Fine, anon, then feel free to go dance some shitty gypsy Despacito on the streets for some change so you can afford those sweet sweet scoubidous and decorate your artist-ass vests, you inexcusable waste of shoe soles.
OH, YOU KNOW WHAT ARTISTS DON'T EVEN HAVE TO DRAW ANYTHING EVER ANYMORE BECAUSE WE GET TO CHOOSE WHAT IT IS TO BE AN ARTIST fuck you, I'm talking about people who actually put effort and learn a craft, not you juggling gorgonzola with a chimpanzee hanging from your ass your gimmicky skills are worth jackshit unless you wanna be a facebook star DO YOU WANNA BE A FACEBOOK STAR? IM SURE MY AUNTIE IS ITCHING TO SHARE AND LIKE YOUR ARTISTIC FEATS SUCH AS SMOKING TIBETAN MANURE AND HANGING FROM SOME GREASY TRAPEZIUM LIKE THE SPECIAL ACROBAT YOU ARE 100K LIKES ARE YOU PROUD NOW THAT YOU NEVER LEARNED ANYTHING WORTHY AND ARE GETTING CLAPPED AT FOR BEING A HUMAN SEAL HONKING YOUR OWN NIPPLES HOW ABOUT YOU LEARN SOME CARPENTRY AND BUILD YOUR OWN CASKET IT COULD BE A VERY SMALL BOX SINCE YOULL STARVE TO DEATH AND SHRINK TO THE SIZE OF THE LITTLEST ONE TRICK PONY THE WORLD HAS EVER SEEN
WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU EXPECT ME TO DO WITH ALL THE ANATOMICAL MISTAKES IN MY DRAWINGS SLAP SOME 100% ORGANIC STAMP ON THEM AND PRETEND ITS ART OR MAYBE I COULD PAY AN ACTUAL ARTIST WHO PUT IN THE HOURS TO DO IT FOR ME NOT YOU, OF COURSE CAUSE YOURE TOO BUSY DEBATING THE INS AND OUTS OF HOW NOT TO LEARN ANYTHING AND STILL SOMEHOW SELL YOUR BEACH ARTCRAFTS WITH OOGABOOGA CAVE PAINTINGS OF YOUR SHITTY OC TO SOME DUMB TOURIST OR MAYBE YOUR MOMS FRIENDS ARE YOU SERIOUS NEXT THING IC WILL SAY I DONT NEED TO LEARN HOW TO COMMUNICATE WITH MY CLIENTS BECAUSE AN ARTIST IS A COMPLEX HUMAN BEING WHO SHOULD LEARN TO BUTTSYNTHESIZE HIS OWN PAYMENT AFTER A HARD DAY OF WORK THAT INVOLVES NOT LEARNING ANYTHING BECAUSE THAT WOULD KILL THE POINT OF BEING A FREE SPIRITED BLESSED CREATOR OF ART HOW ABOUT FUCK YOU THAT IS NOT GONNA HOLD WATER WHEN YOURE FIFTY YEARS OLD AND YOUR WHOL

[Anonymous No.3790337]

>>3790132
>implying these are plausible
>bolts that cannot be undone as they have one side wedged up against a solid piece of metal
>rotating masses that dont have sturdy stoppers in place so they will warp off with only a little force

[Anonymous No.3790357]

>>3790196
Jesus fucking Christ how stupid can you get

[Anonymous No.3790407]

>>3790132
All joints work in exactly the same way, and bear loads in the same way too.

[Anonymous No.3790413]

>>3790407
Then why are there so many different kinds of joints?

[Anonymous No.3790449]

>>3790328
Hahah hit a nerve?

[Anonymous No.3790463]

>>3790196
Or double the salary if you draw boobies

[Anonymous No.3790502]

Funny how almost each thread on ic starts productive and then devolves to insults, swearing and trolling.

[Anonymous No.3790506]

>>3790232
Go to college.

[Anonymous No.3790564]

>>3790294
>very few artists if any at all can actually do architecture at a sufficient level these days
I doubt people here can draw a fucking basic arch that won't collapse If built irl

[Anonymous No.3790651]

>>3790564
why would I need to? it just has to look like a fucking arch

[Anonymous No.3790656]

>>3790196
Laughably untrue. No artist ever has had the technical knowledge of the human body. Can you cut open a liver and identify the parts? Name the major blood vessels? How they work?

This is one of the most hilariously wrong things posted on /IC in quite a while.

[Anonymous No.3790676]

>>3790564
Most architects don't deal with the reality of building something, they design the look, and structural engineers make it actually work. Architectural designers come up with the vision, and then work with engineers to make it work. No architect I know of handles the entire job from sketch to final construction plans - they will consult engineers to design load bearing walls, HVAC, electrical, plumbing, and designing the foundation that works with the actual land, and hiring civil engineers to solve problems that might be there. It's a team job. You have to learn how things are constructed, but the guy who designed the new World Trade Center towers just determined their look - and engineers figured out how to actually build them.
To say that an artist is an architect just because they can draw a house is just funny to me, because that shows a complete lack of understanding of the architectural process and the field as a whole. In the past, people like DaVinci worked/dabbled in engineering, but Michelangelo simply designed the look - and left it to the masons to build the tombs and such that he was hired to design, while he carved the statuary. I would bet the masons came back to him several times in his career and said "yeah, we can't build that."

[Anonymous No.3790695]

>>3790132
every time you walk by something mechanical with interesting pieces, take a picture of it and draw those pieces when you get home to add them to your visual library, then cobble them together.

[Anonymous No.3790701]

>>3790132
Watch the TV show "how It's made"
showcases a lot of manufacturing techniques and how stuff works.
Basically just copy gun and robot designs

[Anonymous No.3790710]

>>3790701
How Its Made Seasons 1 to 24
321 Files
60.09 Gb
>Ultra Rare specials are also included.
nostalgia, I remember early Saturday mornings watching this all the way till afternoon. then id go shoot paint balls and throw oranges and rocks at/with the bros. good times.

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321 Files
60.09 Gb
>Ultra Rare specials are also included.
nostalgia, I remember early Saturday mornings watching this all the way till afternoon. then id go shoot paint balls and throw oranges and rocks at/with the bros. good times.

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[Anonymous No.3790727]

>>3790337
>>implying these are plausible
>>bolts that cannot be undone as they have one side wedged up against a solid piece of metal
>>rotating masses that dont have sturdy stoppers in place so they will warp off with only a little force

This is why mechanics hate engineers. This shit is real.

[Anonymous No.3790730]

>>3790710
>How Its Made
Wow, I remember watching that with my family every morning before primary school. Those were the good times.

[Anonymous No.3790745]

>>3790337
>>3790727
How do I learn to be like you two?

[Anonymous No.3791054]

>>3790337
Plz share your knowledge.

[Anonymous No.3791650]

Since couple of spergs made a mess of this thread, bellow are the posts that actually counts and provide required info.

>>3790133
>>3790159
>>3790209

>>3790320
>>3790320
>>3790320

>>3790710

Also, observation really counts.

[Anonymous No.3791665]

>>3790132
You guys are overthinking it.
Focus on shape design first and then just fake the mechanical parts. It just has to look believable enough.
It also depends on what you are going for i.e. cartoony, gundams, etc

[Anonymous No.3791778]

Mechanical engineering student here, the only good advice is to draw machines from life. Draw cars, mechanical parts on the sides of buildings, go to a museum that has airplanes and tanks for bonus points. Learning the specifics of machine design is only important for engineering and won't help you draw better mechs, your focus should be on capturing the forms properly and building a visual library of common design patterns to use in your own work. Try and think of the function of a specific mechanism as you're drawing the forms (it helps to build them with simple shapes to understand them better) and it'll be easier to use them properly in your own designs. Or just use reference if youre lazy

[Anonymous No.3791842]

Maybe let's make this thread better by posting anon's Mecha/machinery art? Also it would be good if you tell what do you study or your general tips drawing this stuff

[Anonymous No.3791928]

[Anonymous No.3792004]

>>3790196

[Anonymous No.3792089]

>>3790234
yup that helps... build and take notes

[Anonymous No.3792093]

>>3791928
source?

[Anonymous No.3792108]

>>3790132
There's this class by Jake Parker: https://courses.svslearn.com/courses/drawing-robots-and-machinery

"Like studying the anatomy of humans to understand how to draw them correctly, so too must you study and know the anatomy of machinery."

and he intends to update it: https://www.instagram.com/p/BtMIwN0nIlx/


and he intends to update it

[Anonymous No.3792109]

>>3792093
Metal Skin Panic MADOX-01

[Anonymous No.3792134]

>>3790196
We really do not lmao
Nothing that we draw gets made into an actual thing thus doesn't need any in-depth knowledge at all. Illustrators can't be arhitects, doctors, vets etc. just because we learn some basics of the subjects

[Anonymous No.3792136]

>>3790564
My archs are there to look pretty anon not be functional IRL, I'm not a engineer lmao
never had an issues with my boss telling me my shit wouldn't hold longer than 2 years IRL LMAO

[Anonymous No.3792287]

>>3791665
When do you use self-powered joints and when hydraulic cylinders?

[Anonymous No.3792301]

>>3792287
Depends on load and accuracy requirements

[Anonymous No.3792870]

>>3790196
the absolute fucking level of delusion