/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.3779576]

Art is a skill that will take tens of thousands of hours to get anywhere close to "good". I've watched hundreds of young artists give up entirely because of how steep it is. They get amazing progress early on and start slacking off or trying to go for a style early on where they seriously lack experience. They grind fundamentals which are good but don't have any ideas of what to make, and it turns into bland garbage. I'm not bashing fundies it's a super necessary step but it won't carry you anywhere on it's own.

Here's a lesson for you newbies, don't expect to get good in 1 year or 2 years or even 5 years, you'll only disappoint yourself. Art is a lifelong skill, just keep working, challenging yourself and keep moving forward. If you do this you'll always progress.

t. a nobody who found out 99% of his old /ic/ friends gave up on art

[Anonymous No.3779585]

Sorry you lost your friends, I guess. The problem, if it is one, is what to make. I don't consider most artists fine artists so it's obvious that the dream goals of [product] end up being juvenile by the time you have any skill to express them. I don't have high opinions of fine art, but some of them have the right idea as far as mindset.

[Anonymous No.3779588]

>>3779576
Ilya in 2008

[Anonymous No.3779591]

>>3779588
2010

[Anonymous No.3779594]

>>3779591
2011

[Anonymous No.3779595]

>>3779594
2012

[Anonymous No.3779600]

>>3779595
2013

[Anonymous No.3779601]

>>3779600
14

[Anonymous No.3779603]

>>3779601
16

[Anonymous No.3779604]

>>3779603
2018

[Anonymous No.3779625]

>>3779576
you only need enough fundamentals to do what you need. the usual western animu abomination requires very little. like a year at most with digital tools. anything half decent in an artistic sense takes random combinations of insight, knowledge, and technical skills. if you're a soulless robot it shouldn't even take the span of a regular uni education to make visually appealing content. you're just a jaded /beg/ with a learning disability.

[Anonymous No.3779630]

>>3779625
For the sake of argument, I'm going to agree but say the difference between "good enough" and "artists you like" is at least 3 years.

[Anonymous No.3779635]

>>3779625
>another starry eye'd newbie who thinks he knows it all

good luck on your journey anon, hopefully you will overcome the upcoming challenges in your path

[Anonymous No.3779643]

>>3779635
if you can't make something half decent with four years of study you have a mental deficiency that may or may not respond to meds/ therapy. the internet is flooded with 'okay' artwork done by thousands if not millions of hobbyists. don't let depression make you any more stupid than you have to be.

[Anonymous No.3779651]

>>3779643
are you strawmanning me or something? what are you arguing with me about? I literally said you get amazing progress early in you art career, but none of it is "great" and newbies think you keep progressing at this same rate as when you started. They get depressed and lose interest in art because they see themselves in a hole.

[Anonymous No.3779660]

>>3779651
so this thread isn't about op crying over art being too hard for him but about art being too hard that none of his friends do it with him anymore.

get better friends. don't expect everyone to push autistically to the same level as you. other people have lives and very different goals from that of an autist.

[Anonymous No.3779663]

>>3779660
I don't know how long you've been on this board but most people clearly have high goals with art.

[Anonymous No.3779666]

>>3779663
most people? what? most people are hobbyists that just want to do something enjoyable to them. go look at the trash streaming on twitch. high goals they must have.

[Anonymous No.3779668]

>>3779666
Ok anon now you're being super disingenuous. I don't even know how to argue with someone trying to smokescreen me

[Anonymous No.3779669]

>>3779576
>tens of thousands of hours
Six hours every single day for a year is a little over 2,000 hours. Anyone who progresses well while studying six hours every day for five years (10,000 hours) will be an accomplished professional, far past the point of merely gitting gud.
You and your fellow dumb kids all dreamed big but lacked the work ethic to commit to it? Welcome to 97% of self-proclaimed "artists". I remember browsing the gallery of a former /ic/ anon who was borderline professional after two years of dedicated solo study while having started at square one.
Otherwise you're perfectly correct, and an active artist who isn't comfortable with his current boundaries will always be improving, but the only reason someone would take 5+ years to git gud is if they're not serious/lazy.

[Anonymous No.3779673]

>>3779669
/ic/ poll showed that most people draw on average 2 hours a day
so 15 years for average /ic/ anon

[Anonymous No.3779679]

>>3779673
>high goals
>2 hours a day
truly the hobby of the deluded.

[Anonymous No.3779686]

>>3779669
If you're talking about tehmeh, he has dramatically stagnated since then and even after those 2 years I wouldn't call that as "good", there's a lot of skill lacking.

[Anonymous No.3779688]

>>3779686
Wasn't tehmeh's progress pic faked?

[Anonymous No.3779692]

>>3779688
yes, this is tehmeh's actual progress

https://imgur.com/gallery/m7VLG

other than him I have no idea of what other artist on /ic/ he could be referring too