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/beg/inner thread Anonymous Sun Jan 20 05:43:06 2019 No.3776017 [Reply] [Original]

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the Drawthread with our fundamental exercises.

Previous Thread >>3772468

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, do not give up, make someone proud.

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS:
1)
>screenshot the image and post that instead
2)
>change camera capture settings to something smaller
3)
>send to computer and resize in MSPaint

READ THE STICKY if you need guidance when you haven't even started

Sticky: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

TRY TO GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK - many studies are left unreplied, which is a bit sad and can be quite demotivating for the people that try their best to improve, but are left directionless.

REMEMBER, if you've just started out you work will not be good, it doesn't need to be, just get in to the swing of actually drawing, and learning how to study. Most of all, enjoy it.

"Success is no accident. It is hard work, perseverance, learning, studying, sacrifice and most of all, love of what you are doing or learning to do."

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 05:43:45 2019 No.3776021 File: 31 KB, 424x600, 363a4f85a928ec55fc3daddb495353e5.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3776017 ref 01

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 05:44:23 2019 No.3776023 File: 80 KB, 600x731, e0a208b2a17ac96beb89d4ba056e2c0f.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3776021 ref02

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 05:45:02 2019 No.3776024 File: 72 KB, 767x1024, 1547884916556.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What's /beg/s thoughts on this chick? She's pretty qt What type of girl do you like Anon?

Anonymous Sun Jan 20 06:12:58 2019 No.3776042 [DELETED]

>>3776024
I wanted to say something about you guys stop acting like a bunch of fucking horny teenagers. But then I realize this is /beg/ and you guys really are a bunch of horny teenagers.

Also, she's fat and has a waist and face of a orangutan. If you guys knew something about body type would know that a thin waist it's more than half of the necessesary to have sexy ticklegs, otherwise they are just fat.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 06:21:48 2019 No.3776048 File: 131 KB, 1200x800, 005_practice_001_construction.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3773794 T-thanks, anon san. Here is more practice.

Anonymous Sun Jan 20 06:23:28 2019 No.3776052
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>>3776048
It's not like a "line art",i just tryed to make one on top not so cketchy. Also i changed it alot from sketch. because when i purely followed sketch it looked bad somehow. Sketchy lines hide that is bad for me somehow.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 07:17:37 2019 No.3776118 File: 3.80 MB, 463x768, 1547560409648.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3776024 Dumb horny child. I bet you're hispanic. Stop spamming your shitty fat girls and try posting something that actually looks attractive.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 07:19:03 2019 No.3776124 >>3776118 fucking saved. muh absolute dick! sauce?

Anonymous Sun Jan 20 07:24:42 2019 No.3776134
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I've seen some artists on Instagram who always seem to get perfect likeness and proportions in their portraits. How is such consistency possible? I could take a photo of an outlined face I drew, put it under the reference photo in Photoshop, and get good proportions by checking mistakes like this. But it feels like I'd be using a crutch and might as well be tracing. What do??

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 07:27:23 2019 No.3776135 >>3776134 practice?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 07:28:54 2019 No.3776138 File: 3.84 MB, 405x720, c5951bd7gy1fw2apbs06mg20f00qo7wm2.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3776124 Not sure, sorry.

Anonymous Sun Jan 20 07:48:30 2019 No.3776168

>>3776134
Construction. Learning to map out basic shapes, check proportions and angle, lay slightly more detailed shapes, check angles and proportions...
Rinse and repeat until photo-realism. Remember to correct early, if you leave it till your picture is mostly done and spot a mistake you're fucked.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 07:49:34 2019 No.3776170 >>3776134 Also, you need darker darks and edgier edges.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 07:51:34 2019 No.3776175 >>3776168 Can I just sight-size instead of use construction? I have a problem visualizing and every time I try construction it feels bad and comes out bad. If construction is the only way then I'm fucked :/

Anonymous Sun Jan 20 07:59:50 2019 No.3776182

>>3776175
> If construction is the only way then I'm fucked
Where are you learning construction from?

>Can I just sight-size instead of use construction?
Some artists can. They've usually drawn 100x the amount of other artists; and still will make tiny errors which aren't "picture perfect"

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 08:02:26 2019 No.3776185 >>3776182 I've gone through Fun With a Pencil, Loomis Head and Hands, watched Proko videos, and Houston's head video. Nothing seems to help. I feel like I have a brain disability that makes it impossible for me to do construction.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 08:03:42 2019 No.3776188 >>3776185 No recommendations then sorry. Honestly your picture above looks correct proportionally, but shading wise if off.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 08:06:32 2019 No.3776191 >>3776188 thanks anyways anon. If shading is what I have to practice more, then I'm fine doing that.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 08:10:52 2019 No.3776192 >>3776134 What is "grid drawing".

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 08:12:47 2019 No.3776194 >>3776044 >looks like the reference was a little overexposed. But that doesn't answer either of the questions?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 08:15:07 2019 No.3776196 >>3776192 tracing for people who want to pretend they're not tracing

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 08:38:28 2019 No.3776207 File: 45 KB, 731x774, Capture.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 08:55:41 2019 No.3776211 >>3776207 Low effort.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 08:59:43 2019 No.3776214 >>3776207 try to use less lines

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 09:02:31 2019 No.3776218 >>3776207 Try drawing from a reference, even if that reference is other manga/anime. You don't have enough fundamental knowledge to draw anatomically correct characters right now.

Anonymous Sun Jan 20 09:12:13 2019 No.3776222 [DELETED]

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Grid paper anon here, how's this? I got inspired by a Korean guy named Kim Jong Gi who draws directly without sketching so I did the same. The torso and legs are kind of fucked but hopefully the background hides it.

Anonymous Sun Jan 20 09:14:23 2019 No.3776226
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Grid paper anon here, how's this? I got inspired by a Korean guy named Kim Jong Gi who draws directly without sketching so I did the same. The torso and legs are kind of fucked but hopefully the background hides it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 09:29:23 2019 No.3776234 >>3776226 not that good, there are problems everywhere use more shadows, black shapes so its not that flat

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 09:32:49 2019 No.3776239 >>3776234 fuck OFF nigger

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 09:34:57 2019 No.3776240 >>3776239 no u

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 09:36:32 2019 No.3776241 >>3776234 Yeah I was avoiding shading since that's where I usually ruin it. Will post again later, maybe it masks the flaws

Anonymous Sun Jan 20 09:42:54 2019 No.3776245

I need tablet advice that isn't some fucking shill tryna fuck me over. So I've got about £200, and I'm torn between getting a larger tablet size, but sticking to the basic type (Eg; Intuos Comfort Medium size), or getting a pro tablet (Eg; Intuos Pro Small). Which is the smarter move? I looked into other brands, but there seems to be too many issues with jaggy lines (Huion), or parralax (XP-Pen). Help?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 09:48:08 2019 No.3776249 >>3776245 What's the difference between pro and basic?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 09:49:39 2019 No.3776250 i know its generally a bad idea to use alcohol markers on watercolor paper but what about pigment liners (microns)?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 09:50:43 2019 No.3776251 >>3776226 i like the style but the arms are distracting

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 10:11:12 2019 No.3776263 >>3776226 pretty nice. Actually i don t have a problem with the legs or torso but more with the arms but overall i like it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 10:17:21 2019 No.3776267 >>3776245 i would say get the bigger one

Anonymous Sun Jan 20 10:17:23 2019 No.3776268

>>3776250
They don't like cold press paper very much. Larger felt tips play nice though. I'd do some tests to see if they bleed under a wash. As finicky as dip pens are about paper and painted surfaces, they do pretty well as long as you haven't destroyed your paper with heavy washes raising a nap.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 10:22:48 2019 No.3776276 File: 230 KB, 617x702, 20190120_101948.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I don't understand how I keep always fucking up. I must have brain damage.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 10:24:19 2019 No.3776280 File: 111 KB, 400x1200, 609.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 10:27:19 2019 No.3776287 >>3776276 Control your mark making your fucking retard.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 10:28:21 2019 No.3776291 >>3776280 Why is the butt centered when everything else is 3/4?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 10:29:01 2019 No.3776292 >>3776287 My hand shakes so I can't make clean lines you fucking crab.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 10:38:21 2019 No.3776310 >>3776292 And this is an excuse how?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 10:43:13 2019 No.3776321 >>3776287 kek

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 10:44:14 2019 No.3776323 >>3776268 any recs on what i should use as a liner if i want to use watercolor paper as pages for comics? you know for panel bordering

>>	Previously Sun Jan 20 10:48:39 2019 No.3776330 Re-posted in here in he \beg\. Any feedback? Be gentle?

>>	Previously Sun Jan 20 10:49:15 2019 No.3776331 File: 537 KB, 401x694, (2).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3776330

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 10:49:27 2019 No.3776332 >>3776330 I like it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 10:50:13 2019 No.3776333 >>3776330 I can feel the emptiness in your piece, Bravo!

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 10:51:15 2019 No.3776337 >>3776331 reminds me on how much i've been neglecting to study the back of the knee

>>	Previously Sun Jan 20 10:54:31 2019 No.3776340 >>3776337 I used the pose tool app for this. It's pretty good and detailed.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 10:55:54 2019 No.3776342 >>3776331 The tail connection looks bothers me.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 10:56:57 2019 No.3776345 >>3776331 The tail connection bothers me.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 10:58:07 2019 No.3776346 How do I stop getting the urge to draw? I have nothing else to do with my time since I'm on disability support, so I often get the urge to draw, even when I know I can't draw anything and shouldn't try.

>>	Previously Sun Jan 20 10:59:58 2019 No.3776349 >>3776332 Thank you. You are kind.

Anonymous Sun Jan 20 11:01:56 2019 No.3776352

>>3776323
Depends how fine you want your borders. Microns are fine, they just tend to skip, catch, and cut into cold press, I'm also not fond of how CP scans and looks in print but that's just me. If you're just inking on top, you shouldn't have serious problems with bleed and lifting, but I'd test it, I don't really use marker pens when I can depend on india ink being a consistent pain in the ass already.

There's always mixing your own blacks and using a liner brush. Venetian red and prussian blue is dark as fuck, as is pthalo green and perylene maroon. Getting a liner you don't mind destroying and using ink is also a possibility.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 11:04:31 2019 No.3776355 File: 221 KB, 2195x3138, MalodorousFizzbang.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 11:04:44 2019 No.3776357 >>3776346 Draw till you feel burn out, then power through it till it makes you sick just thinking about drawing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 11:05:33 2019 No.3776358 >>3776280 >>3776291 definitely looks like one of her asscheeks has deflated.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 11:05:41 2019 No.3776359 >>3776349 You're a dork

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 11:05:46 2019 No.3776360 >>3776355 These folds are all over the fucking place.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 11:07:01 2019 No.3776363 >>3776346 Either find a hobby that you like more or keep drawing until you get good. All of us sucked at drawing until we'd drawn so much that some of us didn't suck anymore.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 11:08:02 2019 No.3776364 >>3776360 Shit, just when I thought I'd gotten decent at them.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 11:09:57 2019 No.3776367 >>3776364 If you're going for a cartoony graphic style, it's better to simplify the fuck out of clothing folds. If you detail them too much the character just looks wrinkly and messy.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 11:11:13 2019 No.3776370 File: 111 KB, 940x870, happyguy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3776355 You put on the happy mouth symbol the wrong way around.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 11:12:21 2019 No.3776372 >>3776370 Shit, that's good.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 11:24:44 2019 No.3776377 >>3776359 I know.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 11:27:45 2019 No.3776379 File: 110 KB, 400x1200, 609redbutt.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3776291 Ah dammit. Thank you for pointing that out. I think I did it better here at least but too lazy to do it all over again.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 11:28:55 2019 No.3776381 File: 3.29 MB, 4128x3096, 20190120_112751.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Idk if 9m doing it right guys. It's hard getting proportions right. Any criticism is needed lads

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 11:32:11 2019 No.3776382 >>3776381 Small drawings for unsecure people.

Anonymous Sun Jan 20 11:34:13 2019 No.3776383

>>3776381
No criticism since I can't tell what are you going for, but watch all of Proko's videos on heads. That'll get you started. This is a short one, the first one, for a simple front view
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4ZLkyTuX_w

That's the method basically everyone on /ic/ uses. You have to do that thing with the circle and semi circles and planes, you do that a few times and you'll start getting your proportions right. There are more short videos on heads from Proko, you should watch those.

And as if that wasn't enough, just now I see he released a 30 minutes deluxe tutorial on heads
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAOldLWIDSM
I haven't watched it, but skimming through it it's the same method but expanded. Just let Proko teach you heads with whatever video you pick from him.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 11:38:15 2019 No.3776386 >>3776383 Going for an anime style

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 11:45:58 2019 No.3776393 >>3776386 Learn some real faces, deviate from that

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 11:47:12 2019 No.3776394 >>3776386 define "anime style"

Anonymous Sun Jan 20 11:50:27 2019 No.3776402
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>Make a somewhat passable piece that I actually like
>Hey I'm making progress, this looks like an actual human being
>Can't replicate it in the next 3 drawings I make and it's back to drawing ayy lmaos with vaguely human shapes

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Anonymous Sun Jan 20 11:52:29 2019 No.3776403
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>>3776386
Don't shy away from the tutorials my dude, those techniques aren't just for realism. The "Loomis method" (that circle/mannequin head) is used for anime too. It's a blank space and you fill it with whatever you want, but using that template will give you good proportions. So I recommend again checking out the videos, just seeing these images on google isn't very helpful you'd just copy without understanding the point.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 12:12:34 2019 No.3776430 >>3776355 the left arm (his left) is bent the wrong way, like he has a broken arm or something Try making that exact pose and you will know what I mean

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 12:16:36 2019 No.3776435 >>3776430 Good catch, thanks. I'm trying to have his hand pressed up against a wall behind him. Should his forearm be angled towards you a little, rather than away?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 12:24:04 2019 No.3776440 >>3776435 the upper arm should tilt away from the viewer the forearm will tilt away too but to a lesser extent just observe how you arm behaves when you try to lean against a wall like that

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 12:27:03 2019 No.3776444 >>3776402 it's like you did a critical hit IRL

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 12:34:41 2019 No.3776452 >>3776402 It's the grind, man. None of those 5-year progress pictures ever show all the shitty pictures in between, because it fucks with the narrative of "look at how consistently practice pays off!"

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 12:41:30 2019 No.3776459 >>3776402 This is what happens if you let chance control your drawings.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 12:49:46 2019 No.3776470 File: 623 KB, 1500x1350, mahou.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 13:24:52 2019 No.3776500 File: 2.62 MB, 2270x1210, 209412.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] First gesture drawing session, how shittily did I do?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 13:25:27 2019 No.3776501 File: 3.35 MB, 1988x1558, 543212324.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3776500 another

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 13:26:29 2019 No.3776504 >>3776500 >>3776501 (I'm fully aware I chicken-scratched my lines)

Anonymous Sun Jan 20 13:53:37 2019 No.3776536

>>3776245
I'm using an xp pen and I super love it
It IS my first tablet though

xp pen G640, super cheap and, so far, really good. I've even dropped it a few times and nothing bad has happened (Even though I read a review saying it might break)
I'm just ecstatic to be able to draw on my computer, and its got pretty great pen pressure
What is parallax?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 13:54:48 2019 No.3776537 >>3776504 Well, stop it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 13:55:23 2019 No.3776539 >>3776276 Its not bad, just unfinished Get some darker darks, and lighter lights and you're good to go

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 13:55:27 2019 No.3776540 >>3776500 >>3776501 Do figure drawing instead.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 13:59:06 2019 No.3776544 >>3776500 >>3776501 Pretty shitty. Stop chicken-scratching.

Anonymous Sun Jan 20 14:00:24 2019 No.3776547

>>3776500
>>3776501

They aren't bad, but you need to pay closer attention to the angles of the lines
The girl sitting down has her head tilted down, not straight up

The ballet dancer has the same thing going on with the head, back and arms.

Practice drawing what you SEE, not what you think should be there

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 14:06:32 2019 No.3776554 >>3776470 >tfw no crits or anything >tfw its the same everytime I post something

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 14:10:28 2019 No.3776561 >>3776554 it's cute, fgt

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 14:14:47 2019 No.3776574 >>3776537 that is the goal.

Anonymous Sun Jan 20 14:23:19 2019 No.3776593

>>3776470
I like the overall look

You could maybe play around with some shading but honestly, you could also get away with opening up a tumblr or w/e the fuck people use nowadays to post their art

The shirt looks messy, but hey, again, that might be a choice

Time to leave /beg/

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 14:27:44 2019 No.3776600 File: 241 KB, 1000x563, 2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] been learning loomis body

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 14:44:58 2019 No.3776620 >>3776554 Flat and boring.

Anonymous Sun Jan 20 15:03:26 2019 No.3776639
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I'd like to create art similar to the pre-rendered backgrounds used in Final Fantasy VII, VIII, and IX, but I don't know where to begin. Honestly, I'm not even an artist at all, but it's such a beautiful style that there should be more of it in the world, and I'd like to add my own if I can. That said, where do you think I could start? My idea is to look up pictures of city streets and other environments and copy them until I gain a sense for it, then move on to incorporate the more unique quirks and eventually color and so on. It sounds like a huge undertaking, but they say that anyone can be an artist, so I thought let's try it.

Sorry if this is out of place. I did read the sticky, I just wasn't sure where to go next. I have no interest in drawing people, after all - just scenery.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 15:03:32 2019 No.3776640 >>3776554 >>3776620 This honestly. You can pull off a super flat style if your shapes are interesting but yours aren't.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 15:15:43 2019 No.3776654 Doing the whole Fun With A Pencil book. What will it teach me when I complete it?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 15:20:36 2019 No.3776657 File: 58 KB, 607x899, gesture.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] First time trying a gesture, but I'm not 100% sure if I've got the right idea. >>3776021

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 15:22:09 2019 No.3776660 >>3776654 The idea of construction, and somesome bare bones anatomy and perspective.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 15:25:18 2019 No.3776664 File: 182 KB, 572x1000, rei.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I have never bothered to draw anything down from neck before, Im certain this picture has gazillion of mistakes on it

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 15:33:15 2019 No.3776671 File: 2.74 MB, 4128x3096, 20190120_150401.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Alright im back boys. Took your advice and used the Loomis method. Its looking good. Definetely seeing some progress. Any criticism is needed

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 15:37:45 2019 No.3776676 >>3776671 Now that you know the method, find an image of some random anime character and try to recreate it exactly. Pay careful attention to how much space there is between everything, especially the eyes.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 15:37:54 2019 No.3776677 File: 193 KB, 880x655, rabbit 11 redux.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3776671

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 15:39:45 2019 No.3776680 File: 167 KB, 480x360, BETRAYED US.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] aaaaAAAAAA HOW THE FUCK DO YOU MAKE USE OF PERSPECTIVE IN FIGURE DRAWING AAAAAAHHH

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 15:51:35 2019 No.3776693 >>3776664 It actually isn't that bad

Anonymous Sun Jan 20 15:53:52 2019 No.3776694

>>3776134
Doing what you're doing is already tracing once removed. Hence why you want to move away from copying and move towards construction and learning anatomy. From there, it's really all about measuring and angle relationships like others have mentioned. If you want perfectly accurate drawings, then sight-size won't be enough. However, you can try your hand at caricature which tends to get likeness even without accuracy. You can learn to pick up on the key features of a person's likeness from those techniques.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 15:55:04 2019 No.3776697 >>3776276 you doin alright man. pretty good construction overall. you just need to push those values some more. don't hesitate to go darker

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 15:57:23 2019 No.3776700 File: 1.28 MB, 1800x1207, Illustration41.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] my best effort

Anonymous Sun Jan 20 16:00:33 2019 No.3776706

>>3776500
Good effort on trying to get the gesture. You can actually push the motion and curves just a bit more. First though, you should try to break down the body into basic shapes and mass rather than hollow line curves. For instance, you can draw the ribcage as an oval shape, the pelvis as a block shape, and then connect that with the spine. The legs can just be cylinders or even lines for now. Think in terms of building blocks. Basically, you need to learn construction.

Anonymous Sun Jan 20 16:08:24 2019 No.3776717

>>3776664
Started off good but then the legs. Seems like there's no structure to the body. Looks like you're treating each part like it's separate. Like you draw the head, attach a chest, then arms, then attach legs, etc. It ends up looking disjointed. So when you draw a figure, you want to think of the whole pose as one thing. Don't worry so much about the head or any individual part as it will fall in line if you have a good structure and a good pose. Focus on a solid construction first and then you can add the details on top.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 16:13:59 2019 No.3776723 >>3776680 have you checked this out? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJWLaDSNBAI

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 16:20:06 2019 No.3776728 File: 81 KB, 1988x978, Loomis practice.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] God, Loomis makes me feel like shit.

Anonymous Sun Jan 20 16:34:34 2019 No.3776738
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what's the best way to do comparative measurement? Should I just imagine verticals/horizontals intersecting features or is there some faster/better way to do it?

Feels like it's all guesswork and no real structure to the process, is intuition supposed to kick in at some point or what?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 16:35:32 2019 No.3776739 >>3776738 >historically accurate vs we wuz kangs

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 16:37:17 2019 No.3776741 >>3776738 Just use your eyes nigga

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 16:42:06 2019 No.3776748 >>3776693 >>3776717 Alright thanks guys, I understand your tips to start from a whole pose first Im gonna go back to practice more!

Anonymous Sun Jan 20 16:54:35 2019 No.3776760

>>3776639
Just find references for what you want to incorporate into your drawings. Pay attention to what specific elements or details make up the style you are going for and study that. You should also study the history of design movements in architecture, furniture and other decorative arts.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 16:54:39 2019 No.3776761 >>3776738 just go slow and practice more and more

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 16:56:16 2019 No.3776763 File: 449 KB, 900x1045, Vayle.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This is probably the first thing I've drawn that I think is decent and I'd like to get better so critiques, and pointers would be cool.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 16:59:52 2019 No.3776769 >>3776352 i think paint markers would be fine but i haven't really tried them on watercolor poscas have extra fine tips anyone know how they react to each other?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 17:05:10 2019 No.3776779 >>3776763 Do you have like the construction or a rough sketch on another layer you can share? The body is extremely strange-looking, but I THINK a lot of it just stems from the jacket not looking good and throwing off the rest of the figure.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 17:07:09 2019 No.3776783 >>3776748 alright man, good luck!

Anonymous Sun Jan 20 17:12:46 2019 No.3776794
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>>3776779
I didn't really draw any constructions before i did the rough sketch and line-art, i originally drew her without the jacket and just to the waist, her legs and jacket were sort of an afterthought

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 17:14:34 2019 No.3776799 >>3776470 >>3776763 >>3776226 I really like all of these

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 17:23:33 2019 No.3776817 File: 2.11 MB, 2894x3771, A374D182-AA39-423D-B48A-76407DC15FD9.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3776017 I drew a turkey today

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 17:25:28 2019 No.3776820 >>3776794 Yeah, it's exactly as I thought. The jacket was what was really throwing off the arms.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 17:26:03 2019 No.3776821 File: 42 KB, 720x1032, Wwr.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Trying to nail down a good balance of cartoony and realistic. How does this look?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 17:36:00 2019 No.3776839 >>3776821 The fairly detailed face contrasted with the massive round eyes is frankly hilarious.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 17:37:17 2019 No.3776842 File: 305 KB, 800x800, test 12.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] still gotta draw shibuya rin but too busy trying to do the sketchfab head

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 17:38:25 2019 No.3776845 File: 378 KB, 557x568, ue1arc67.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Trying to get into this kind of style after having done fundies. Any good tutorials on vector art/washi tape style people could recommend?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 17:46:26 2019 No.3776855 File: 1.67 MB, 1440x2044, Screenshot_20190120-234512_Gallery.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 18:10:28 2019 No.3776880 File: 40 KB, 645x951, Wwr1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3776821 >>3776839 is this better?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 18:19:06 2019 No.3776889 I uploaded Hampton's figure drawing book to google drive so that folks can have conversations about specific parts of it, might be helpful idk https://drive.google.com/file/d/1u9UC0NmizUkrUvxhKarbcwdw79euxeux/view?usp=sharing

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 18:32:27 2019 No.3776907 File: 191 KB, 685x543, 15minstudy.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I feel like my freehand height for features like eyes/lips is really often off. Here's a quick example.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 18:39:25 2019 No.3776912 File: 220 KB, 423x329, 1541518671975.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What's a good beginner drawing tablet?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 19:00:55 2019 No.3776933 File: 2.42 MB, 1475x1475, idk.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3776912 Most people I know started with a cheap Wacom Bamboo

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 19:01:29 2019 No.3776934 File: 1.28 MB, 2560x1920, 2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Free hand perspective exercise

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 19:02:42 2019 No.3776935 File: 1.22 MB, 2560x1920, 1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] And trying to turn a box. Send help

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 19:08:44 2019 No.3776944 File: 387 KB, 680x708, a09.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] FUUUUUUUCK WHY CAN'T I IMPROVE EVEN JUST A LITTLE BIT FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 19:11:35 2019 No.3776950 >>3776245 >>3776249 Pro has tilt sensitivity and more pressure levels but the tilt sensitivity is more valuable than the pressure. Go with medium unless you want carpal tunnel.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 19:16:16 2019 No.3776957 File: 1.32 MB, 3264x2448, IMG-0193.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3776017 I drew the maid from the anime Kaguya Sama. Please rate

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 19:17:25 2019 No.3776960 >>3776944 I think /ic/ has taught me that everything's a meme and improvement is a myth

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 19:20:52 2019 No.3776966 >>3776957 seriously dogshit. super seriousl y dogshit. Never draw again fucker

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 19:20:59 2019 No.3776967 >>3776957 looks like shit. you can't draw. you're not gonna make it. kill yourself, faggot.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 19:22:56 2019 No.3776969 File: 1.39 MB, 3264x2448, IMG-0171.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3776967 >>3776966 ;_; what bout this one? They're atleast cute right? :(

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 19:24:11 2019 No.3776971 >>3776969 Don't listen to them Anon they're cute Keep practicing bro

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 19:28:37 2019 No.3776973 >>3776969 we're just trolling you, anon. they look nice, keep practicing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 19:29:06 2019 No.3776975 File: 1.00 MB, 1288x1594, 20190120_192513.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3776671 Alright I'm back. Really getting the feel of it now. Any criticism is needed

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 19:29:34 2019 No.3776976 File: 917 KB, 1362x701, 1528165730551.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3776969 Liquify in photoshop. Use references and anime references

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 19:33:42 2019 No.3776979 holy fucking shit I can't not draw lopsided I flip and it's wrong, I fix it before flipping back and then it's wrong against when I unflip

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 19:35:33 2019 No.3776981 I can't read books for art for the life of me, holy shit I can't even get past the first chapter of Fun With a Pencil.

Anonymous Sun Jan 20 19:56:20 2019 No.3776993
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Anon from a few days ago that did this and the others here; >>3770816
hope the link worked right, usually does

is this any better? took me about 4 fucking hours because muh tism
trying to make stuff look less lifeless and stop symbol drawing so much, so this time I drew from a reference (coming up next post)
I think the eyes are fucked up and too wide, nose is maybe a tad too short, hair is gonna be hell

>>3776855
whiteboards are tight as shit I need one, looking good Anon

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 19:58:36 2019 No.3776996 File: 100 KB, 530x713, bdff391f47ea77ea55fb8cd4e956dec3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3776993 man this looks like hell in photo form, I swear in front of me it's not this horrible

Anonymous Sun Jan 20 20:02:10 2019 No.3776998
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>>3776017
How bad is it? That's what I can do after 2 years of grinding, I can't draw shit from imagination without any references or else my mind goes blank (I don't know what to draw either 99% of the time as well). I feel so frustrated, sometimes I feel like I want to quit but that'd be a waste, when I first started drawing I honestly had fun, now I'm just slowly losing the motivation to go further.

Anonymous Sun Jan 20 20:13:25 2019 No.3777014
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>>3776998
Style is important, look at Krenz's sketches and your favourite anime artists, most importantly his linework looks loose but good. Try and get your lines the right the first time (SAI is easier for linework)/ This girl also looks a bit skinny and undefined so look up manga clothing references from your favourite mangos. If you examine Krenz's sketches he breathes life into the pose primarily through the curves in the spine and exaggerates curves. Keep working.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 20:15:44 2019 No.3777022 >>3777014 the thing is, I absolutely have no Idea what to draw.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 20:18:02 2019 No.3777029 >>3777022 Cute girls? Traps? Lolis? Your waifu? Cute boys? There's a lot of options open.

Anonymous Sun Jan 20 20:21:39 2019 No.3777038

>>3777029
Yeah but my lack of imagination is something that's holding me back. I don't mind grinding for hours, it's just that I don't know how to apply what I've learnt, sometimes I can stare at my screen/paper without drawing anything. And it's been like that for almost an entire year.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 20:27:16 2019 No.3777050 >>3777038 I just draw my fave characters in whatever setting I can manage. I read a lot of books and watch a lot of anime so I have plenty of fave characters

Anonymous Sun Jan 20 20:36:04 2019 No.3777064
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>>3777050
mfw watched 800 anime, jerked off to 10k doujins read over 200 manga, read a lot and have plenty of fav characters as well, even with all of that I'm still completely stuck. Why's art so frustrating.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 21:08:13 2019 No.3777106 File: 45 KB, 639x480, Wadanohara-and-the-Great-Blue-Sea-wadanohara-and-the-great-blue-sea-37713627-639-480.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3777038 when else fails draw Wadanohara.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 21:12:31 2019 No.3777111 File: 109 KB, 622x565, 1576816714357.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] when do I get good at figure drawing

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 21:17:44 2019 No.3777121 File: 528 KB, 824x989, sticky situation 2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Chose to just finish this off, is there anything I messed up?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 21:18:38 2019 No.3777123 >>3777121 where is the penis

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 21:18:55 2019 No.3777124 >>3777121 Looking at it now I think the posture of the arm could be a lot less awkward since I intended to go in a different direction with the picture than how it turned out.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 21:19:40 2019 No.3777127 >>3777111 >when do i get good on your next trip

Anonymous Sun Jan 20 21:38:55 2019 No.3777161
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>keys to drawing lets me loopy with my lines and feel out forms in 2-3 strokes
>draw a box is making me be super anal about every line I draw by ghosting it out beforehand
which do I pay more attention to

Anonymous Sun Jan 20 21:50:13 2019 No.3777171
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Not sure if it's ok to post here since it's a 3D model. But I'm not interested in 3d-specific stuff,such as topology, vertex weights, etc, but the anatomy. I think this board is the most appropriate for visuals of anatomy questions.

All of the pics correspond to the same model, who is supposed to be very busty, yet natural. First row is in resting position, bottom row is with the breasts being supported by an imaginary bra or other piece of tight clothing.

Bottom row just looks utterly ridiculous to me. Like she has two spheres bolted on. But I THINK that's how I should make her. It's the kind of shape bras give, it's just that bras aren't invisible. Still, they look stupid. Any redlining would be appreciated.

I'm also not sure about how the ass-leg connection looks in the 45º angle view. I like it in the side view, but it looks a bit too much in the middle one.

I don't mean to make a realistic character, but I don't want it to look too alien-y and repulsive, either.

Any help/red lining will be welcome. Thanks for reading.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 22:08:20 2019 No.3777189 File: 872 KB, 1288x1361, 20190120_220709.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Repost. Any harsh criticism is needed. Looking to improve

Anonymous Sun Jan 20 22:14:01 2019 No.3777194
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>>3776975
This is looking much cuter, that chin will help you more. You shouldn't try round faces like you did before until you get better.
A tip I'd give is to make the main circle a bit bigger so it stands out and you get more space to put bigger hair. Hair is usually a big part of anime characters, idk if I'm being clear. Trying to make the top of the head less flat.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 22:14:25 2019 No.3777196 >>3777189 I'm not gonna criticize this until you stop drawing postage-stamp size drawings

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 22:15:19 2019 No.3777199 >>3776671 what the fuck is that thing

Anonymous Sun Jan 20 22:28:06 2019 No.3777218
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I think I may be able to do this a little better if I try again from scratch
my issue is that I don't follow his advice to do everything in one perfect stroke but if I do I'm just ctrl zing a shitload and still learning nothing

Anonymous Sun Jan 20 22:28:24 2019 No.3777219
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>>3777189
This is good already but still more western than anime. You can try adding eyelashes to the eyes to make her look beautiful and using harder edges on the upper half of the eyes. Actually I'd make the eyes smaller and change the face to make it less round but that's where it gets tricky, there's tons of anime styles so taste comes into play. This is an example of outlining the outer edges.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 22:28:38 2019 No.3777221 >>3777196 Understandable. I'm trying to get my faces to improve until I start doing full on character design

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 22:36:01 2019 No.3777226 >>3777194 >>3777219 Ty for the criticism. Getting the proportions right were the hardest part of it all. Each time the eyes looked slightly off. I would go back and erase and erase until it would fit in right

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 22:46:34 2019 No.3777237 File: 119 KB, 962x588, Untitled.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I just want to draw cute girls not ugly robots ;-; Can i just skip hamptons head drawing and just go straight to anatomy?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 22:49:57 2019 No.3777244 >>3777064 Have a look at other people's art and then get setting inspired. I always find that it's either the perspecting or the not knowing how to render something that fucks me up

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 22:50:03 2019 No.3777245 >>3777237 if you're only wanting to draw anime, draw anime heads from anime guides the body stuff will still help you, yes

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 22:53:51 2019 No.3777252 >>3777237 Anime is just anime heads glued onto skinny realistic sketched bodies. You should be doing a lot of figure drawing and gesture drawing. Have a look at krenz's sketches, vilppu's gestures and loomis' loose sketches for what to aim for

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 22:58:29 2019 No.3777258 File: 245 KB, 800x800, rabbit 50.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] gotta use the loomis

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 23:13:54 2019 No.3777271 Can I get some feedback on >>3776657? Like I said, it was my first attempt at a gesture drawing and it's hard to tell if I'm even on the right track with it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 23:29:35 2019 No.3777282 How come When I draw from a reference like a photo or something I’m a lot more accurate. But when I try to draw faces or things in real Life when I’m outside, they end up looking like complete shit.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 23:30:00 2019 No.3777283 >>3776760 Thank you anon, I'll get to it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 23:31:45 2019 No.3777287 >>3777271 >>3776657 theres nothing to critique jackass. Actually draw something.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 23:37:48 2019 No.3777292 File: 2.60 MB, 750x1334, EDBE7D09-5749-41CE-A59A-ABBE8E835400.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] First time painting in about four years. Thoughts?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 23:38:35 2019 No.3777294 Is it actually possible to draw in my mind? I'm trying to do it, but the drawing keeps disappearing on me.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 23:41:31 2019 No.3777297 >>3777292 the perspective is weird and so is the atmosphere, everything else is nice though

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 23:48:25 2019 No.3777302 File: 42 KB, 303x621, first.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Sun Jan 20 23:53:19 2019 No.3777306

>>3777294
Kim Jong Gi literally says he drew in his mind for a year when he got drafted into the army. Now, whether or not that's possible for a normal human being is a different thing, and unless you are unable to grab a pencil and some paper there's no merit in doing so.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 23:56:29 2019 No.3777308 >>3776993 lots of symbol drawing going on here still. eyes and lips in particular

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 23:59:37 2019 No.3777312 File: 108 KB, 723x876, db3c4d63f0041f8df0a9878a23024419.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How long should you practice fundies before attempting stylization? Not my pic btw.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 00:11:46 2019 No.3777326 File: 139 KB, 882x879, Help 1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3776017 Hips are really messing me up, I know I curved the sides a bit. I'm using an anatomical reference is that really how hips be?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 00:12:29 2019 No.3777327 File: 629 KB, 2100x1600, Human anatomy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3777326 Reference I used.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 00:20:35 2019 No.3777333 >>3777297 Good thing I’m currently working on a perspective practice I guess. Define atmosphere?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 00:42:15 2019 No.3777355 >>3777327 If you're drawing a female, use a female anatomical reference.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 01:14:08 2019 No.3777388 File: 362 KB, 764x1000, image.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] When do I get to draw like this

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 01:17:38 2019 No.3777391 File: 200 KB, 498x750, 1427394443814.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3777388 DO NOT SEXUALIZE THE REMIU

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 01:44:09 2019 No.3777402 I'm legitimately convinced there's something wrong with my eyes If I don't flip after every single stroke it comes out lopsided how can my brain convince me that it isn't lopsided every time

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 01:48:14 2019 No.3777407 >>3777402 Have you tried drawing upside down?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 01:48:55 2019 No.3777409 >>3777402 >Doing a backflip after every single line That's rad as heck.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 01:49:05 2019 No.3777410 >>3777407 not for a while maybe I need a refresher

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 02:29:32 2019 No.3777431 File: 110 KB, 800x800, doomguy.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 03:04:09 2019 No.3777456 >>3777064 Over saturation has turned your brain into goop. Imagination is like a muscle, and when all you do is consume other peoples work you're not working it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 03:05:12 2019 No.3777459 >>3777171 >>>/3/

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 03:07:26 2019 No.3777462 >>3777312 Ideally you never stop applying fundies.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 05:37:15 2019 No.3777564 File: 705 KB, 1080x1426, IMG_20190121_023337.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Only God knows why did I draw this. I just planned to draw a torso then improvised the rest.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 05:48:56 2019 No.3777568 >>3777564 I like it a lot

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 06:00:19 2019 No.3777577 File: 447 KB, 573x1019, candle.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Mon Jan 21 06:09:08 2019 No.3777586

>>3776364
You want to get good at drawing, right?
Good artists don't try to sneak by with randomly placed lines hoping they'll pass as folds. Sure they might jot down random stuff for some landmarking at the start, but from there they go on and actually think about the folds and connect them with each other, imagining a structure below the whole thing.
So if you want to get good at drawing, start trying to do the same. This skill won't improve much just by drawing a shitload of poorly thought through clothing - sit down, look at references, try to see the whole image.

Anonymous Mon Jan 21 06:09:34 2019 No.3777587
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>>3777577
I thought this was a photograph when I looked at it. I love the organic forms in the background. However, I would give the area I just circled a smoother gradation unless your reference says otherwise.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 06:12:53 2019 No.3777591 >>3777587 deadass i been working on that part for days i just cant get it right thanks for the critique

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 06:13:36 2019 No.3777592 >>3777591 Are you using PS? SAI?

Anonymous Mon Jan 21 06:14:47 2019 No.3777593

>>3776470
I don't think you need us to tell you that you need to work on your hair and gesture. You didn't draw a whole lot of things that *could* be critiqued. Your hands are one - they're fine. The texture of the clothing might be another, nothing wrong there either. The face is carried by the eyes which are fine as well. Your hair is half-assed. And here it stops - what else is there to give input on? That's all your drawing is. Don't expect critique while comfort-zoning.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 06:14:53 2019 No.3777594 >>3777591 * what I'm meaning to say is that for the purpose of blending you can use a biggish soft brush to make it meld more nicely

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 06:20:32 2019 No.3777599 >>3777592 ps

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 06:20:57 2019 No.3777600 >>3776855 not /beg//10

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 06:26:58 2019 No.3777602 >>3777292 What's the level you were at before those 4 years? Cool stuff

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 06:27:43 2019 No.3777603 File: 10 KB, 340x108, 1519024565935.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3777599 It might be a bit easier blending with this brush. Or a big soft one

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 06:28:46 2019 No.3777605 >>3777599 * https://www.sendspace.com/file/jlwm9u

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 06:39:58 2019 No.3777613 File: 3.42 MB, 2564x1776, 1546897836228.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3776470 >>3776554 Some suggestions. Work on developing your artist style by taking what you like from other artists.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 06:50:16 2019 No.3777618 >>3777613 >smooth out with liquify How would you use liquify for something like this?

Anonymous Mon Jan 21 06:57:24 2019 No.3777627

>>3777308
the eyes I can see where I messed up, they don't look enough like his and I fucked the pupils up
what's wrong with the lips? struggling to see the difference besides maybe the upper lip being too big

I'm trying hard as hell to avoid symbol drawing but still barely understand what defines it

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 07:35:34 2019 No.3777647 File: 764 KB, 2000x2000, unknown[1].png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Am I following this section of "Perspective Made Easy" correctly?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 07:45:51 2019 No.3777650 >>3776763 the thighs shouldn't curve away from each other so much at the crotch

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 07:47:17 2019 No.3777651 >>3776912 huion h610

Anonymous Mon Jan 21 07:54:29 2019 No.3777654

>>3777647
Mostly. Looks like you accurately found the height of the dudes in the top right. The dude in the foreground of the bottom right is too big though. The eye level is pretty high, so he's gonna look a bit smaller. I'm not sure about the bottom left guy, because the construction is quite confusing, but just on sight he looks a bit wrong. Try drawing the car on the street too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 07:55:27 2019 No.3777656 >>3777326 Hips are widest at the greater trochanter, you can't be drawing the mom from dexter's lab. Also the head is small.

Anonymous Mon Jan 21 07:59:47 2019 No.3777663

>>3777654
Thank you, I am probably going to do more of this tomorrow. The top right one is one that I did by establishing the vanishing points first and using the straight line tool. Yeah, on the one for the bottom left I drew the line through their head instead of at the top which is why it probably looks fucky. I also just copy and pasted the guy so I wouldn't redraw them. Thank you for commenting.

Anonymous Mon Jan 21 08:09:17 2019 No.3777670

>>3777302
Arms are waaay too short, hands usually fall a bit below the crotch, and elbows start at the waist, usually.
The hands are TINY, especially for a man

The head is waaay too big for a fully grown man. Even if its meant to be anime. If you want him to look more like a man, at least give him some bigger shoulders

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 08:12:50 2019 No.3777673 >>3777326 I would taper them a little bit more to the greater trochanter, like the other anon said, but I would also look at more women. Sometimes there's another little peak at the upper thigh. Fat sits funny on women

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 08:13:57 2019 No.3777676 >>3777564 Looks good, except for the part where his pants look like they're about to come off

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 09:21:24 2019 No.3777730 File: 134 KB, 1000x533, back.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Posted in the wrong bread at first, anyways, more proko backs. The gestures are all over the place, and I didn't torque the last one anywhere close enough, anything else?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 09:21:58 2019 No.3777732 File: 169 KB, 1000x393, backref.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3777730

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 09:23:24 2019 No.3777733 >>3777730 >>3777732 Oh yeah, and the muscles end way too shortly on the way back in the first one, right?

Anonymous Mon Jan 21 10:04:56 2019 No.3777754

So when do you go from figure/gesture drawing to anatomy?
I'm currently reading Hampton's book. I look at the muscles he presents, quickly copy them and go draw naked bodies and see how the muscle reacts in different poses and then move to the next one.

Are there more specific exercises I should be doing?

Also does anyone got a good resource full of naked bodies?
SketchDaily only has so many naked people.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 10:18:27 2019 No.3777769 >>3777754 check the artbook thread

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 10:27:46 2019 No.3777783 >>3777602 Thank you, I painted from about 16-19 years old and watched Bob Ross. Used pencil every day as a kid though. Trying to get back into things more seriously.

Anonymous Mon Jan 21 10:35:18 2019 No.3777795
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>just keep studying and drawing xDD
>at least le 1 hour at le least anon xDDDD
>just draw what you want to draw :^))))

FUCK I CAN'T EVEN ENJOY DRAWING WHAT I WANT TO DRAW BECAUSE I'M SO FUCKING SHIT FUCK

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 10:36:02 2019 No.3777797 >>3777287 So I did it right-ish? The lesson said that you should draw 100 gestures before moving on and I just wanted to make sure that I didn't fundamentally misunderstand what gesture drawing was before doing that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 10:39:10 2019 No.3777802 >>3777797 Anon you should place a horizontal line for the hips and shoulders, your neck placement and everything looks fucked up https://youtu.be/xbE0vYgng00

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 10:41:00 2019 No.3777806 >>3777795 The three on top look pretty cool

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 10:52:28 2019 No.3777821 >>3777806 thank you I actually joined this weekly life drawing class thing but I'm so goddamn nervous because I feel like it'll be wasted because I can't improve for shit also printing out bargue plates to get on top of this fucking drawing thing

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 10:57:17 2019 No.3777827 >>3777795 its actually not that bad anon

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 10:59:35 2019 No.3777829 >>3777821 You improve by doing. I saw the most improvement doing life drawing twice a week on croquis cafe, a real class with longer poses is probably even better

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 11:09:27 2019 No.3777837 >>3777829 Also sketching nature out in the field, but no one wants to do that this time of year.

Anonymous Mon Jan 21 11:15:33 2019 No.3777839
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Trying to work on focusing on just drawing without getting upset at the mistakes. I know I did a lot wrong here but I'm trying to be comfortable with the mistakes and just learn from them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 11:30:02 2019 No.3777851 Hey, not actually sure where to ask but: is there any good site that i can start posting my art? i'm kinda new and i'm not making super duper things yet, but i have some nice things and i would like to start.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 11:34:49 2019 No.3777855 >>3776134 If this is who I think it is I'm glad to see you're not longer pitying yourself like a faggot. And you've improved. Well done.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 11:36:15 2019 No.3777857 >>3777851 here

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 11:37:45 2019 No.3777858 >>3777855 I go back and forth between fagging shit up and being chill. SZA sucks. Anyway, I found this video and I think it's good for me if I keep it in mind going into a drawing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyzz4epnW_Q

Anonymous Mon Jan 21 11:45:05 2019 No.3777863

>>3777857
I was more like thinking about a site that i can have my profile with a database with all my sucky (confident guy here) art.
So i can see how i improved, and to make a start posting, because i was still waiting for that magic artwork that people will like( reason i never posted).

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 11:45:15 2019 No.3777864 >>3777851 twitter,instagram,deviantart and tumblr(if its SFW)

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 11:52:31 2019 No.3777869 >>3777564 Seems to be well proportioned but still ugly. Good if that's your thing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 12:03:51 2019 No.3777882 >>3777795 looks good to me

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 12:04:48 2019 No.3777885 File: 128 KB, 500x693, backagain.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3777730 >>3777732 Tried again, I think the rotation is closer now, the gesture's propably still off, but that isn't really the point of the exercise.

Anonymous Mon Jan 21 12:05:32 2019 No.3777886
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>>3777802
okay how the fuck is this not chicken scratching
i used to draw like this and then people got pissy
is this just to lay out the shape and then you're supposed to go over it cleanly?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 12:06:55 2019 No.3777889 >>3777839 you should focus on improving your linework so you can draw a single curve without chickenscratching

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 12:11:00 2019 No.3777891 >>3777886 It's gesture drawing, which is just to get a rough idea of the pose before you start construction. It more commonly looks like >>3776500

Anonymous Mon Jan 21 12:11:07 2019 No.3777892
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I've still got a lot to do with this, but I think the lower part of the eyes look a bit uneven, the tits look off, and I was trying to figure out how much I should accentuate the area of where her lower ribcage ends & where her waist/hips begin, and I've been told the pupils could be bigger. What else?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 12:12:06 2019 No.3777895 >>3777892 what an absolute unit she's got linebacker shoulders, try making them narrower and slope downwards a little next time

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 12:18:30 2019 No.3777902 >>3777795 Don't copying bore you people?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 12:19:14 2019 No.3777904 >>3777902 post your work from imagination

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 12:25:01 2019 No.3777909 File: 145 KB, 800x1154, merc_wip.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3777904 here faggot

Anonymous Mon Jan 21 12:26:08 2019 No.3777911
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>>3777895
Aww shit. Thanks! I'll have to download more references on feminine shoulders/physique in contrast to a man's then, since I've only got one that I've been using so far.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 12:26:14 2019 No.3777912 >>3777909 looks cool

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 12:37:07 2019 No.3777923 >>3777909 As a /beg/ why is everyone memeing on merc_wip (the drawing itself not the poster) so much? It's not even that bad.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 12:37:42 2019 No.3777924 >>3777886 Your figure drawings probably showed little understanding of the subject.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 12:40:58 2019 No.3777927 >>3777924 I'm the one who just began drawing a week and a half ago and wanted feedback on the gesture drawing. The guy who posted the spongebob image was someone else.

Anonymous Mon Jan 21 12:49:36 2019 No.3777931
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>>3777889
I'll try but my hand shakes a lot, and after a few attempts I always forget to keep linework in mind. However, what should be my main focus is making sure I don't get upset at mistakes.

Anyway, I tried another portrait.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 13:12:18 2019 No.3777948 >>3777333 The colors should become lighter, less saturated, and you shouldn't be able to see as much detail the farther back you go. It gives a sense of depth.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 13:37:32 2019 No.3777963 >try to draw with stabilizer on >drawings come out flat, soulless, boring >try to draw with stabilizer off >drawings come out messy, hap-hazard, full of mistakes maybe I should just learn on trad mediums

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 14:53:44 2019 No.3778038 File: 3.43 MB, 4608x3456, 20190121_144649.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Other then the shitty feet and hands, what else is wrong? I'm trying to draw a super heroine doing something dynamic

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 14:56:18 2019 No.3778045 >>3777963 Then it just looks like shit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 15:07:07 2019 No.3778053 File: 910 KB, 1464x1557, 20190121_150512.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] hey guys. back at it again with another cute girl. Harsh criticism is needed. Improving more and more

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 15:08:40 2019 No.3778060 >>3778053 Yikes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 15:17:30 2019 No.3778068 File: 81 KB, 1280x720, 5.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3778053 I think this would've looked better without any shading >>3778060 don't be a bully

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 15:33:42 2019 No.3778081 File: 738 KB, 1415x1394, 20190121_153155.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3778068 Here it is without shading. I love shading as it helps bring more depth to my drawings but here it is

Anonymous Mon Jan 21 15:42:41 2019 No.3778089

>>3777931
I recomend you the Proko's video on drawing hair, it really helped me a lot to avoid that "spaghetti" look from trying to draw each strand of hair. Also, double-check the nose, it looks as if the person was looking straight to you, not to the side.

Nice work on the proportions and the placement tho, keep it up anon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 15:43:25 2019 No.3778092 >>3776912 pencil and paper

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 15:45:13 2019 No.3778096 >>3777931 The nose looks centered, which looks odd since she's not facing us straight on.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 15:52:15 2019 No.3778110 >>3777923 it's peak generic soulless combat boy, stiff, boring and unoriginal

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 16:11:25 2019 No.3778133 File: 3.52 MB, 4608x3456, 20190121_161022.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3778038 Update

Anonymous Mon Jan 21 16:16:51 2019 No.3778139
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Trying to get the hang of drawing on a tablet in photoshop. My paper drawing skills were meh at best and I'm having a difficult time translating it over to tablet.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 16:19:29 2019 No.3778142 >>3778139 Flat af.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 16:30:04 2019 No.3778150 File: 189 KB, 492x656, 20190121_162326.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How do I draw for 10 hours a day when I feel tired and lazy after a few minutes?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 16:38:54 2019 No.3778163 >>3778150 20 minute sessions with mandatory 5 minute breaks you stick to. Of that's too hard, do 10. It's standard practice for other forms of study and meditation. Just sitting is hard. Maybe throw that in as well, monky mind.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 16:43:27 2019 No.3778168 >>3778150 Stop being weak.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 16:45:08 2019 No.3778174 >>3778150 You don't start slow retard

Anonymous Mon Jan 21 16:46:08 2019 No.3778176
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I often hear that a woman's shoulders are supposed to be narrower than her hips, but that never seems to be the case. Where do the shoulders end and the arm begin?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 16:55:32 2019 No.3778185 >>3778176 Define shoulder.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 16:56:29 2019 No.3778189 >>3778176 At the acromion and coracoid processes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 16:58:02 2019 No.3778191 >>3778176 Not the shoulder. The torso is supposed to be thinner. Shoulders can be wider or thinner than hips but usually they're around the same width.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 17:00:23 2019 No.3778192 >>3778142 How do i make it not flat?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 17:13:13 2019 No.3778211 File: 1.23 MB, 2560x1920, 1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] trying random gesture memes

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 17:13:59 2019 No.3778212 File: 1.19 MB, 2560x1920, 2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 17:17:41 2019 No.3778214 File: 2.58 MB, 1920x2560, 3.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 17:23:01 2019 No.3778224 Is it weird that my pen nib isn't wearing out?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 17:24:41 2019 No.3778227 >>3776907 Looks ok. (I assume you mean feature placement on the face substrate )

Anonymous Mon Jan 21 17:27:32 2019 No.3778229
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Bros, how should I practice? I'm mainly doing stuff like pic related, but I feel that this might not be the best way. Should I start doing less detail and more pure gesture, and then do structure and anatomy separately? I sometimes feel like I'm only drawing what I see, without any great understanding.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 17:30:22 2019 No.3778234 >>3778229 well if your goal is drawing thots you're doing a bang-up job, don't see anything wrong with it

Anonymous Mon Jan 21 17:30:37 2019 No.3778235

>>3776944
Practice ... each completed draw will help you pick up 0.05% of your full potential... you need 200 completed drawings to see 10% improvement...2,000 to see/realize what your actual potential is. Every drawing you will pick up on a technique you didn’t have before. Could be something as minor as how to hold your pen/stilus when drawing skin wrinkles or how hard to press going in and coming out of a stroke..

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 17:34:52 2019 No.3778239 >>3778229 If you find you too comftable with drawing from reference. Do some from imagination.

Anonymous Mon Jan 21 17:38:20 2019 No.3778242
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>>3778192
not him but you can do it with more midtones and more values brah you could make the ones in the distance a bit blurred. Make sure that the light follows the geography which makes landscapes a bitch to paint. Unless you are Bob Ross...

Anonymous Mon Jan 21 17:41:36 2019 No.3778244

>>3778229
Do both Anon, drawing from reference is important, gesture is also important. Drawing from imagination is also important, if you feel like you are too comfortable then go and change it up. Also let me say I think those are awesome, way better than what I can do.

Anonymous Mon Jan 21 17:44:34 2019 No.3778249

>>3778192
To make your mountains look less like drama class plywood murals, you need to realize that parts of the mountain are closer to you than the peaks. Knowing that and seeing that your light source looks like it’s left of center behind the subjects, parts of the foregrounds of these mountains need to catch some of the light... also you need to use darker darks for the base mountains color... I circled some spots... at the bottom of these there should be some brighter light. Account for the shadows created by the peaks/crests of the mountains.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 17:45:22 2019 No.3778250 File: 418 KB, 1334x750, B5A652E7-BBF1-49C7-A600-D68E1F9EBB63.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3778249

Anonymous Mon Jan 21 17:55:41 2019 No.3778261
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these were 90 seconds each
any obvious mistakes I should avoid next time? should I be giving myself more time until I'm better? I never have time to add volume contours like hampton talks about

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 17:57:09 2019 No.3778267 >>3778261 wow I already see the one in the middle has midget legs, dunno how I missed that while I was drawing it

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 18:04:43 2019 No.3778277 >>3778250 Got it thanks

Anonymous Mon Jan 21 18:08:17 2019 No.3778282
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>try to draw realistic faces
>they look like shit due to symbol drawing, take me forever, aren't enjoyable

am I a faggot if I just prefer drawing comic/semi-realistic type faces?
in a way it feels like quitting because realism is too hard, but I decided to get into drawing so I could quickly create characters I write
in these 2 videos for example, I'd be very happy to draw faces that looked like this (and pic related)
https://youtu.be/fsAPfjDS4cM
https://youtu.be/z6xB4DMs1E4

either way I'm going back to basics and moving away from faces for a bit, going to try drawing stuff around me and nailing basic shapes

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 18:11:28 2019 No.3778294 >>3778282 what do yours look like?

Anonymous Mon Jan 21 18:11:51 2019 No.3778295

>>3778282
Capturing likeness is hard until you figure out how to do it. Usually the base for a painting looks like what you want to do. Look into caricature. The proko videos get the idea across. Once you figure out features, the difference between the two narrows to almost nothing.

Anonymous Mon Jan 21 18:15:00 2019 No.3778302
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>>3778294
like >>3770816 and the 2 below it, and >>3776993 was a more realistic attempt from a reference but it turned out gross, took me too long to be enjoyable
the tiny doodle was the one I enjoyed most because it has a certain degree of character and charm, even if it is symbolshit

might as well post another example of comic-style faces, Caza is great

Anonymous Mon Jan 21 18:36:44 2019 No.3778330
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>>3778239
>>3778244
Ok. Ty, friends. I think I've improved from doing those types of figures but I stil feel kinda awkward drawing without reference. I think doing more anatomy would be best now.

Anonymous Mon Jan 21 18:38:23 2019 No.3778331
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>>3777618
Lazy example.

Usually it's better to redraw lineart as using liquify on it can change the line thickness slightly and if you don't work at high res it can become very blurry and as you can see, everything is not always according to plan so undoing, brush resizing etc and generally playing around with it is good before you actually use it.

For paintings there are people who use it all the time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=do7dJFCJWpo

There's also warp/transform, perspective etc that you can use to bulk resize and move stuff around.

Try not to use these sorts of things on studies but for everything else it's fair game

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 18:38:49 2019 No.3778332 >>3778330 >that foot yeow

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 18:40:02 2019 No.3778334 >>3778331 wtf why is this allowed

Anonymous Mon Jan 21 18:43:08 2019 No.3778336

>>3778261
I'm not advanced but I think you should give yourself more time. Also stop and think about the drawing when you're done, and then redo it and fix the things you thought were bad. I think it seems like pros would get more out of quick-drawings than beginners.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 18:44:22 2019 No.3778338 >>3778332 Yeha it's bad. The hands as well; I guess that's where i'll start.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 18:45:10 2019 No.3778340 >>3778261 You have to work your way up to 90 seconds. Try setting a higher time limit.

Anonymous Mon Jan 21 18:45:44 2019 No.3778342

>>3778334
This isn't even the end of all the hacky stuff you can do in PS. It has basically the most hacky ability set of all of the programs (especially colour filtering/selective colour/colour balance etc) which is why everyone loves it even if the brush engine is pretty dismal at best.

If you're working in SAI that one has an inking layer which is all vectors so you can drag your strokes around and change the thiccness after you draw them. CSP I don't use for much but the hackiest/most useful feature I've seen is a close all gaps selection so you don't need to line your character properly (it can still have holes in the linework) and you can still select it and fill it in ridiculously quickly.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 18:46:04 2019 No.3778343 >>3778336 >>3778340 ty, I'll try 2 minutes next time

Anonymous Mon Jan 21 18:49:34 2019 No.3778344

>>3778343
I'd do figure drawing first (and allow up to like two hours). Then once you've figured out figure drawing, cut down figure drawing times to a half an hour limit.

Once you've figured out figure drawing gesture is much easier but give yourself at least 5 to 10 minutes to start out with and then you might be able to cut it down to 2 minutes. Ridiculously fast drawing is a meme (it's actually easier to achieve fast gesture on traditional than digital)

Anonymous Mon Jan 21 18:49:39 2019 No.3778345

>>3778342
>If you're working in SAI that one has an inking layer which is all vectors so you can drag your strokes around and change the thiccness after you draw them.
The tradeoff being that the pen tool looks like shit. It's a great learning tool though, since you can play around with the lines until you see how they should have looked compared to what you drew.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 18:50:51 2019 No.3778346 >>3778282 I feel the same, honestly I CAN draw things more realistically, I just prefer the exaggeration of expression I can get out of a cartoony face Also they're much easier to make kawaii when I drew cute girls

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 18:51:36 2019 No.3778347 >>3778344 by figure drawing, do you mean being able to competently draw a figure from reference?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 18:55:50 2019 No.3778351 >>3778343 Yeah I tried doing quick-sketches at first, but I thought that it was really difficult to intepret the gesture in such a short time. And also, if I failed at capturing the gesture, how could I be sure that I had understood it to begin with?

Anonymous Mon Jan 21 18:56:42 2019 No.3778352
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>>3778345
SAI's the best for sketching/drawing refs, CSP's the best for inking and PS is the best for painting I've found. Luckily all the drawing skills you acquire from drawing transfer between the programs.

>>3778347
Yes. It seems overwhelming at first but you get better and faster but getting it right is more important than plowing through it at sanic speeds and you'll probably be ctrl+zing it often in order to get it right. You don't need all the details, but the level of detail in, for example, these loomis poses is good.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 19:15:56 2019 No.3778378 Do you guys get anything out of watching other artists draw on twitch and such?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 19:30:47 2019 No.3778391 >>3778378 Yeah I do. I think you can learn a lot from watching others draw, but of course some parts of the process are just going to be routine work. Maybe it's better to watch a cut video than an entire stream.

Anonymous Mon Jan 21 19:52:53 2019 No.3778417
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>>3776639
>>3777283
I tried something. The bottom left curve going all the way down kind of hurts to look at, but otherwise I'm happy with it. The jarring mistake here is that I accidentally made the right side tunnel narrow down into almost nothing, which I think happened because I copied the central pillar much too small and it screwed up my image reference. Otherwise, certain areas are lacking detail or are a bit awkward (I don't plan on finishing it due to the above screw up), but overall I'm happy with it. In fact, I get something out of looking at it that isn't there in the original image. See it for yourself if you'd like (>>>/wg/7330870).

Deleted the last one because it was rotated.

Anonymous Mon Jan 21 20:34:26 2019 No.3778450
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>>3776017
Someone in a previous thread said the hands "stood out like a sore thumb" but didn't elaborate. could someone do a redline?
Also some general critique would be nice

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 21:17:06 2019 No.3778490 >>3776700 You're definitely getting there, you just need to focus a little more on fundamentals.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 21:18:50 2019 No.3778491 >>3776728 Clean up your lines

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 21:47:02 2019 No.3778511 File: 634 KB, 2000x2000, unknown[1].png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I posted yesterday, but am I doing this exercise from "Perspective Made Easy" correctly? This shit sure isn't easy! rimshot

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 22:03:43 2019 No.3778521 >>3778450 Something about it reminds me of Felix Colgrave. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_MSFkZHNi4

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 00:00:20 2019 No.3778609 File: 1.43 MB, 3264x2448, FullSizeRender.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] coming soon...dumb bitches

Anonymous Tue Jan 22 00:05:43 2019 No.3778613
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>>3778450
not the person in the previous thread. The hands do seem to be a bit big, especially the fingers.

also, I'm assuming the cyclops is a girl, however that loincloth makes it look like shes got a bulge. lol, I understand it's not done but damn did that make me laugh.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 00:09:27 2019 No.3778616 File: 129 KB, 878x325, Screen Shot 2019-01-22 at 4.07.31 pm.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3778261 I think you would be better practicing a skeleton outline and getting basic proportions and poses before putting flesh on them.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 00:09:32 2019 No.3778617 File: 460 KB, 794x478, D12A9500-8F45-44D4-839E-5B9272642C69.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] why does this look so flat

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 00:25:17 2019 No.3778629 File: 39 KB, 502x589, 1521648105864.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] someone make a fresh bread

Anonymous Tue Jan 22 00:37:55 2019 No.3778636

>>3778617
pic related may look complicated, but you need to establish a horizon line during the sketching stage of the drawing. once you have done this you can then begin to build into the landscape with multiple aspects of the drawing in the background and foreground.

you've done a good job by having the mountains in the back and the waves in the front. its a good composition so far.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 00:38:29 2019 No.3778637 File: 461 KB, 1019x689, Screen Shot 2019-01-22 at 4.33.11 pm.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3778636 forgot pic dammit

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 00:39:33 2019 No.3778638 >>3778617 I would suggest looking up single point perspective tutorials for this composition

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 00:41:39 2019 No.3778639 Do i need any knowledge before start practice gesture drawing?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 00:41:51 2019 No.3778641 File: 1.35 MB, 3264x2448, IMG-0217.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3776017 fellas, I think I screwed up the arms and torso, Are the arms too small? The torso too big?

Anonymous Tue Jan 22 00:48:15 2019 No.3778647
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>>3778211
>>3778212
>>3778214
ditch the lined paper, even if you're just doodling.

how about trying some more simple posing, however you must try to keep the figure consistent, looking your work the proportions are all over the place, try to keep them consistent for a couple of drawings.

this isn't to say that every figure should have the same proportions, but its a good practice to do a couple while trying to keep them similar.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 00:53:01 2019 No.3778651 >>3778629 those hands make me want to go eat a banana yum

Anonymous Tue Jan 22 00:57:28 2019 No.3778652
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>>3778641
a torso is usually 3 heads long (highly depending on the size of your characters head and their age) and the arms should come down around the hip area.

This is extremely hard to see in your drawing. I suggest you pay more care to proportions in your construction lines and fill in detail (hear necklace, eyes, that ugly dress) once you're happy with the proportions of the sketch.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 01:36:53 2019 No.3778664 >>3778651 Me too

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 01:58:54 2019 No.3778671 How do I know if I'm practicing right? How do I know when I'm seeing forms in my head correctly?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 02:12:08 2019 No.3778678 >>3778636 >>3778637 >>3778638 damn so even this simple shit is out of perspective

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 02:12:49 2019 No.3778680 >>3778617 it doesnt look flat to me...

Anonymous Tue Jan 22 02:27:02 2019 No.3778685
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>>3778680
compare it to this photo of the ocean
>>3778678 >>3778617
if you wanted to rework this drawing I would start by using something like this as a reference and laying down a foundation horizon-line and following one-point perspective tutorials.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 02:33:27 2019 No.3778686 File: 57 KB, 538x820, FullSizeRender 2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] any comments before i ink this bitch

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 02:39:31 2019 No.3778689 >>3778686 Have you tried drawing better?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 02:40:26 2019 No.3778690 >>3778686 looks like a man with tits, asshole

Anonymous Tue Jan 22 03:07:05 2019 No.3778701
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Struggling with landscapes and values. I can't figure out how to make this pop more while keeping the values in the foreground, it starts looking confusing. The top half of the picture is mostly unfinished.

Anonymous Tue Jan 22 03:23:27 2019 No.3778712
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>>3778450
She is so adorable! The hands do look strikingly off, it s like they are these goofy cartoon clown hands, there is a huge disconnect between the detailed anatomy cute face the hands.

Obviously not done yet but looks workable so far you could add more shading on the garments an just more shading and colors overall.

My attempt to make the hands better, maybe too girlish for someone like her but I love girlish hands. Also added a bit broader shoulder and pulled the top inside a bit to make room for the arm.

Please continue this anon! Report back with more wips.

Anonymous Tue Jan 22 03:27:41 2019 No.3778716

>>3778701
The closer the object is the more values are visibly the father it is the less they are visible. Try to push more richer values to the close parts more lights and darks (especially more lighter ones on your pic) and fade them a bit on the further away parts, make them just mid tone grayer overall this is especially true for the mountains at the left side.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 03:37:47 2019 No.3778722 File: 15 KB, 350x233, Jumping_Humpback_whale.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3778685 uhhh you changed the horizon though

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 03:42:40 2019 No.3778724 File: 377 KB, 538x821, redline03.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3778686 here you go friendo

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 03:50:10 2019 No.3778730 >>3778724 thanks mate thats some good stuff

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 03:54:38 2019 No.3778732 File: 125 KB, 588x421, mountains02.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3778701 Tried some shopping to illustrate what I meant in >>3778716 Hope this helped.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 04:05:46 2019 No.3778744 File: 58 KB, 570x796, FullSizeRender 3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3778724 already looking a lot better, work in progress, thanks agian

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 04:37:10 2019 No.3778765 >>3778722 oh sorry, i didn't realise you based it of an existing image

Anonymous Tue Jan 22 05:23:39 2019 No.3778809

>>3778417
You mean that curve on the wall, right? In the reference it looks like it's supposed to be parrallel with the top and bottom of the wall.

Check out a book called 'Perspective Made Easy' in the sticky. Do all the exercises - you'll get a lot out of it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 06:48:37 2019 No.3778898 >>3778809 Hey, can you look at my post at >>3778511 Did I do it right?

Anonymous Tue Jan 22 06:54:19 2019 No.3778903
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>>3778617
Having a clear value read will make it look a lot better (download the mullins course and watch the value section on 2x speed). Your foreground thing needs to be distinct from the background, that's a cheap but effective trick that a lot of these artists use to make stuff look better, apparently and I try and do thumbnails the way mullins explains (using white, light grey, grey, dark grey, black) to test stuff out before developing the art.

Also at sunset the clouds tend to be lit up from behind with yellow/reddish colours and I find that using blueish colours instead of grey like in the krenz paintings seems to make it turn out better.

This is my go at a similar subject material i.imgur.com/VIeW6wq.png

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 06:59:52 2019 No.3778913 >>3778898 Yeah, that looks correct. Good job dude.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 07:20:12 2019 No.3778936 File: 99 KB, 727x441, 2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3778898 >>3778913 Isn't it supposed to look like this?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 07:54:02 2019 No.3778971 >>3778903 i figured i wasnt pushing my values hard enough. thanks for the thorough analysis!

Anonymous Tue Jan 22 08:13:18 2019 No.3778987

>>3778971
I think you pushed it a little too dark on the clouds and the mountains and sea. I've forgotten the lecture content but he was also talking about the histogram or something.

Anyway the trick was just setting it to black and white from time to time and seeing if you can distinguish stuff like the sea from the whale, the mountain from the sea. Pretty simple but really annoying when it turns out a colour was picked wrong or something.

Keep up the good work

Anonymous Tue Jan 22 10:05:22 2019 No.3779094
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>>3778053
>>3778081
anon... if you're going for an anime artstyle, why are you choosing such an ugly one...

Just pick an animestyle that makes them look cute, not that weird Ramna shit you got going on.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 10:40:08 2019 No.3779116 >>3779094 >Moeshit >cute Feel free to leave

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 12:38:58 2019 No.3779193 >>3779094 Ranma's style is great, too.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 13:05:24 2019 No.3779218 >>3779193 not the way this motherfucker is doing it >>3779116 >he doesnt love Jahy Looks like you should be the one leaving

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 14:06:13 2019 No.3779294 File: 1.14 MB, 1548x1207, beg2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] NEW thread up! Because we are almost bottom. >>3779285

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