vent thread/art feels

[Anonymous No.3736279]

I masturbated to my oc again.

[Anonymous No.3736285]

>try to make art friends from /ic/
>join a bunch of discords that want to improve together
>they all end up turning into shit and all the artists there post like once a week and it's a shitty 10 minute sketch or study.

[Anonymous No.3736292]

>>3736285
>There are people on this board right now that actually want to get together and become "art friends"
In case you have not noticed, artists are among some of the most fucked up individuals both emotionally and mentally. We all have skeletons in our closets, and there's a reason why we turn to art as a medium of escape from everyday struggles. You do not want to befriend another artist especially from here unless you're looking for the type of drama that drives people to become heinous or even suicidal.

You are not looking for "art friends" you are simply looking for an excuse to no draw. We don't socialize or communicate with others in the traditional sense either so if you really want to grab someone's attention and become some form of companion why don't you draw something that would allow you to speak in our visual language? Don't say I didn't warn you though we're not what you think we are and you are setting yourself up for a huge disappointment by befriending us.

[Anonymous No.3736296]

>>3736292
that's a lot of projection in one post. Ever been outside group drawing or at a figure drawing session? Artists there are the most chill people I know, calm down anon

[Anonymous No.3736302]

the horny art gf anon is rubbing off on me make it stop

[Anonymous No.3736304]

>>3736296
It's all a farce. You do not get to know someone by simply being next to someone on a classroom setting. But if you believe otherwise ignorance truly is bliss.

[Anonymous No.3736305]

>>3736304
Your description of artists is literally every person alive out there, i'm sorry if this is coming to a shock as you but look at yourself before you became an artist. You we're hiding shit and escaping from everyday struggles too.

[Anonymous No.3736306]

>>3736292
you have no idea what you're talking about

i get the feeling you're one of those posters that has almost zero life experience but thinks he knows things based on gut feeling

[Anonymous No.3736313]

>>3736305
>Your description of artists is literally every person alive out there
Thank you for proving my point.

[Anonymous No.3736314]

>>3736279
I can't stand how addicted I am to social media validation. I hate when I post something that I worked really hard on and it only gets a few likes and nearly no RTs. I feel like a big part of this is that I always tweet my art when a lot of my followers are not online.

I know that the best artists who truly make it are the ones who work hard on their art everyday without caring about validation. I'm thinking about just turning off notifications at this point.

The weird thing is that it seems like most of my RTs and likes these days are coming from my Japanese followers (my account has less than 200 followers) compared to my western followers. I don't even understand japanese. So I try to post my art when it's morning or evening in Japan.

/whining

[Anonymous No.3736320]

>>3736313
You understand that you can still be friends and know people have insecurities and skeletons in their closets right? Am I supposed to never have a friend again? What was the purpose of your point since you we're specifically targeting art friends?

[Anonymous No.3736323]

>>3736320
The point was that the other poster would be disappointed to learn that whatever he thought of as an art friend is actually a serpent that spews venom so excuse me for trying to save them the heartache.

[Anonymous No.3736473]

My jealousy towards other artists is a constant detriment to my motivation.

[Anonymous No.3736474]

>>3736292
>>3736306
pretty much this

or maybe even someone who's just lonely themselves and wants everybody else to feel the same

[Anonymous No.3736495]

>>3736279
Similar boat as OP. I keep drawing my degenerate fetishes, but always end up feeling 'soulless' after fappping to them.

[Anonymous No.3736993]

>>3736495
OP here. I just draw my OCs doing cute things, sometime in lingerie.

[Anonymous No.3737012]

>>3736279
How many times do i have to say this?
Vent threads should be banned because venting is actually pretty unhealthy, it doesnt solve your problems and it magnifies your negative emotions by validating them and making you dwell in them which will make you feel 10 times worse than if you just let it be.
You are better off asking for legitimate help than whining to strangers online who dont know how to solve your problems.

[Anonymous No.3737014]

>>3737012
>venting about vent threads
nice job anon, you're a moron who knows nothing about human psychology

[Anonymous No.3737022]

>>3737014
Im not venting about venting im saying the people posting here are better off asking for help elsewhere

[Anonymous No.3737067]

>>3737012
Posting shit in these threads has helped me get over shit and forget about it so I can focus on shit that actually matters. You're just retarded.

[Anonymous No.3737111]

>>3736279
>another year no improvement

[Anonymous No.3737155]

I feel pity for societt, as it wont be able to contain mt insane improvement levels in 2019. All these little faggots who call themselves child prodigies or ecelebs will learm the harsh consequence of their apathy upon seeing my art.

[Anonymous No.3737550]

When is it ok to give up? I love drawing a lot but if suck and I'm late for my age, can I even make money of it? I don't even know where to start.

[Anonymous No.3737553]

>>3737111
Please post january and december. Or what you consider best instead of december. If you're stuck maybe someone can help.

[Anonymous No.3737638]

>Likes and views don't matter lmao
Then why the fuck do people with shitty posts and shit drawings get more attention than people who really deserve it? Fuck you even NEED views and reactions if you want to sell your art and make money.

[Anonymous No.3737640]

I'm 28 and I still draw in beg tier. I hate my life. I wish I hadn't spent so many years not drawing but I hated what I produced.

[Anonymous No.3737705]

>>3736279
I can't decide if I like drawing anymore. One of the big draws for me was being able to see myself improve and being able to make something I could look at and be proud of. That never seems to be the case though. I've built so much of my life around something I'm not very good at and I'm wondering if I should just change before it's too late.

[Anonymous No.3737713]

>>3737012
im need food now

[Anonymous No.3737731]

>>3737553

[Anonymous No.3737732]

>>3737731

[Anonymous No.3737931]

>>3736279
Is that a bad thing?

[Anonymous No.3737967]

>>3737731
>>3737732
I don't do much stylized work but your anatomy is way off and then you jump to adding details to clothes and accessories
Do you use construction lines?
If not it's a major benefit to use them
Also gestures but focus on anatomy first

[Anonymous No.3737987]

>>3737731
>>3737732
fundies brotha

[Anonymous No.3738068]

>>3736292

lemme guess, you started an """"""""artist""""""" """"collective"""" called the "treehouse of faggotry and special snowflakes" and somehow it didnt work well ?

I like you diary desu.

[Anonymous No.3738136]

>>3736279
I waste more and more time masturbating to my art as my skill improves.

[Anonymous No.3738308]

>>3736279
JAJAJA RANA CACA

[Anonymous No.3738309]

>>3738068
>treehouse of faggotry and special snowflakes
You're in one right now.

[0 - !pRqJctqU3c No.3738498]

>>3737731
>3737731
>>3737732

this is really adorable. you should probably make more friends, and then draw after that, and use some technical manuals & real life observation

[Anonymous No.3740128]

>>3736292
>and there's a reason why we turn to art as a medium of escape from everyday struggles.
art is part of my daily struggle. is that weird?
i dont have much fun drawing because everything i make is a disappointment but im not strong enough to power through and still draw like a madman all day
so i draw 1 hour and then play videogames
i envy all the anons that use art as their #1 escapism. for me its barely fun at all.
at least im making progress anyway.

[Anonymous No.3742052]

Bump.

[Anonymous No.3742056]

>>3738136
Post it, I'm horny

[Anonymous No.3742058]

>>3737022
theres a reason why people vent here, for one its anonymous, so there are no repercussions thats something real life doesnt offer. for two you can relate to other people to know youre not alone.

[Anonymous No.3742059]

>>3740128
That's a pretty bad mindset. If you're not having fun you won't improve.
Easiest way to do that is to stop putting expectations on yourself and just draw or paint or whatever without judging. You'll have more fun and grow faster as a result.
Keep at it babygirl

[Anonymous No.3742077]

I like having money and a sense of independence but really miss being a NEET who could draw all night and do fuck all during the day ;_;

[Anonymous No.3742087]

>>3736279
when im even a little sleepy, i just wanna nap

[Anonymous No.3743312]

>listening to ahmed aldoori videos while i draw
>brings up things he likes and uses as inspiration
>all retard normie shit
I'm not saying I could do better than him (he's miles ahead of me in terms of skill and success) but his taste in stuff makes it no wonder why the subject matter of his drawings is so bland. Doesn't help that he's got a bad case of yellow fever.
I know its petty but I had to get it off my chest.

[Anonymous No.3743323]

>>3736279
I only made one (1) porn drawing. It was a mermaid/naga giving deep pov head.
I masturbated to it for weeks, eventually it became so intense I had to delete it.

[Anonymous No.3743357]

I want an artist gf with freckels so bad but I dont know where gf artists live. Drawing alone is to depressing.

[Anonymous No.3743382]

Anyone here constantly finding small ways not to draw and ending up drawing sometimes 10% of he actual time you have to draw in a day, but sill absolutely love drawing and forgeting everything else when you start doing it?
I cut out other distractions but for some reason I still can't get to draw properly and even when I do, I usually learn a tiny tiny bit, don't really practice it, and end up doodling.

Worst thing is I don't get the good out of any of the 2 worlds now. Bad at drawing and didn't play any game since the beginning of the year or read any book so I feel like I'm being left behind.

>>3743312
Tastes are personal and not one is better than the other. Just draw what you like, if dragons and knights pump you up do the best fucking dragon and if you like dickgirls fighting furries then do that. I feel lke it's even better if what you like is considered no bland/out of the norm, means there's probably a niche waiting for it.

[Anonymous No.3743416]

>>3743357
Join an art club/do some beginner painting classes. There’s already more girls into art than boys, joining a club will get you out the house and then as long as your personality isn’t appealing you should be able to at least make some female friends. And then you can mention to them who you’re single and do they know anyone who would like to go on a date? If they’re into you then they’ll be like, why not invite me anon? If they’re not at least you have their friends.

[Anonymous No.3743446]

>>3743416
>and then you can mention to them who you’re single and do they know anyone who would like to go on a date?
>If they’re into you then they’ll be like, why not invite me anon?

wew

[Anonymous No.3743890]

That's it, I'm on the verge of giving up and I finally understand why I fought so desperatly for all this time. I grew up drawing and that was my only sort of skill (even if I was and am still super bad), so if I recognize that I actually don't want to draw professionnaly, I don't know what I am anymore.
And going back to video games and shit after having tasted the power of creativity will be hell. So I'm stuck and this feels terrible.

[Anonymous No.3743934]

>>3743890
I tried going back to videogames after I quit drawing, you just can't. All that you do once you quit is feel pain because you're not drawing. These days I just sleep.

[Anonymous No.3743961]

Fuck photoshop for becoming subscription. I only use it like once or twice a month to edit the colors from shitty Clip Studio colors when I do rarely post in color...I'm not paying 20 bucks for that shit.

[Anonymous No.3743969]

>>3743961
>shitty Clip Studio colors

Oh wow I had no idea CSP came bundled with their own colors! Did adobe invent new special pretty colors for photoshop?

[Anonymous No.3743980]

>>3737012
>You are better off asking for legitimate help than whining to strangers online who dont know how to solve your problems.

Bold of you to assume I even have friends to vent about this shit. Im the only artfag around my community

[Anonymous No.3743986]

>>3743961
>Fuck photoshop for becoming subscription. I only use it like once or twice a month to edit the colors from shitty Clip Studio colors when I do rarely post in color...I'm not paying 20 bucks for that shit.

Using CSP to paint/draw when photoshop can do both. Do you even photoshop?

[Anonymous No.3743995]

>>3743969
Their color management is shit and everyone knows it. People have posted side by sides for a while now. Fuck off with your snark.
>>3743986
I like CSP better for drawing and painting, and I draw comics. It's got way better tools and is far more intuitive. And it's a cheap one time cost that constantly updates and adds new tools.

[Anonymous No.3744000]

>>3743995
oh wow CSP is actually good then. I might buy it sometime but after using Photoshop for too long it might be too hard to adapt.

[Anonymous No.3744003]

I want to see that OC

[Anonymous No.3744013]

>>3743995

What do you mean by color management, exactly?

[Anonymous No.3744073]

Every time I try to start a comic I drop it by the third page
I always end up going back to grinding through hands and figures when really it does fuck all to help me draw comics
I keep getting caught up on dumb shit and freezing; last time it was because I couldn't draw a truck's engine, before that was because I didn't like a face.

I went to C95 today, and the amount of really great artists was fucking scary. I want to make good comics but all these people better than me can barely sell

My health is deteriorating, I've always been weak but It's catching up to me. I've been eating clean for three years, working out for more, but my body performs far worse than last year, or before that.
I'm only 20, but often genuinely mistaken for a 30+ year old.

I'm unpleasant, to say the least. I'm neither social, nor funny or interesting. I don't pick up on social cues and become unsympathetic to everyone.
I became disillusioned with people, to the point people say I have "no blood".

Seeing great art makes me want to cry, and I'm pretty stone-dead emotionally, because it feels like I'll always be the consumer. I want to learn how to draw wonderful stories but it feels like I'll never with everything going on.
I have a shelf full of comics and manga that I barely touch for that reason

[Anonymous No.3744088]

>>3744073
I felt like you and I eventually quit. I'm 31 now. This was my work.
It's going to eat you alive if you quit. Just keep putting out shitty comics as a hobby, it's better than giving up.

[Anonymous No.3744419]

I always feel like I seem rude if I only respond to genuine questions in the comments I get and skip all the one liners, smileys and compliments.

[Anonymous No.3744446]

>>3743934
Yeah I actually did it too a few years ago. Yet it doesn't seem like I'm made for drawing or art in general. This is hell aaaaaaaaaaah

[Anonymous No.3744451]

>>3744088
Dude if the story's good you can make it with this level (on webcomics at least, not sure about other ways, but think I've seen lesser levels on paper too)

[Anonymous No.3744452]

>>3736292
is this copypasta? needs a little bit more work though

[Anonymous No.3745070]

>got no tomboy artist mangaka gf
>I hate my own art
>i'm so lonely
>i'm staying up past mid night listening to sad lo fi
> i actaully relate to shinji
>sometimes i think about how good it would be to be dead

[Anonymous No.3745074]

>>3736285
Are you on the bigboi discord? I’m guessing not.

[Anonymous No.3745134]

>>3745070
Fucking christ are you like 14?

[Anonymous No.3745322]

>tfw you think you can't make friends with another artist because they're too good for you, when it's really just that you're an unlikable recluse who gets upset when people draw your characters better than you can

[Anonymous No.3745471]

>actually have decent internet to do art streams
>get everything set up and start taking requests
>relatively okay, get 5-6 people per stream
>nothing too weird, mostly terrible furry OCs doing easy shit
>5th stream ever
>dude asks for his character
> adds 4 or so corrections haflway through the request
>fundamentals and basic knowledge of anatomy go out the window as I'm annoyed by this fucker
>too much of a beta to call the dude out because he's one of two regulars and is usually fun in chat
>finish with a shit piece and end the stream early because I'm so frustrated

[Anonymous No.3745495]

>>3745471
>doing art streams
>taking requests
>getting annoyed by faggots wanting free art

Ganbatte in life anon.

[Anonymous No.3745559]

I can't stand disingenuous positivity from other artists. It just seems so fucking weird, like they feel the need to be overly pleasant to belong or something. Why would you lie about liking something or having fun with some aspect of art that you obviously don't like? I feel like this is pushed by people like Ross Tran or Bobby Chiu whom to me, seem to lie to their audience that all aspects of art are "fun!" And if you say they aren't you're taking it for granted. Obviously I can't say for certain if these people are truely postive or not. But I notice inconsistencies in what they say and I feel like you can usually tell when someone is lying or putting up a front. Like they'll say something overtly negative that doesn't fit their act or narrative. Iain Mccaig for example, I think there is a guy who is genuinely positive because it is in his nature. Not because he feels the need to be, but it is truely in his disposition. This is why I like aspects of the /ic/ crowd. Although most of us are bitter, depressed losers, most of you guys are realistic and honest. I think postivity is great, if it is genuine.

[Anonymous No.3746111]

>>3745559
You think they're faking because you're on a negative paradigm. Some people are legi happy about little things, living in the present moment. I know it, I was one but I lost it.

[Anonymous No.3746121]

>>3745559
>Bobby Chiu
Eh, I don't really think so. He's very honest about the struggles you'll face in art and give actually realistic strategies in overcoming your problems. It should be apparent if you watch his videos.
You're right about Ross Tran though, he's just following the footsteps of the typical family-friendly YouTubers and vloggers with his artifically crafted positivity.

[Anonymous No.3746122]

>>3745559
>>3746111

people like to say "projecting" a lot as a brainlet way of saying "no u" but this is actual projection, learn to relax and try to genuinely enjoy what you're doing which i know is difficult but it prevents burnout which is really important

[Anonymous No.3746247]

>>3745134
no just really fucking sad and lonely

[Anonymous No.3746260]

>>3745070
try shamana

[Anonymous No.3746307]

>>3736279
I think it's retarded that the first thing people always criticize is the anatomy. What if you have a cartoony artstyle? Is Shinchan anatomically correct? What about Bomberman, Kirby or most pokemon? What about fictional creatures without any real life counterpart?

I could draw a sausage with arms and a propeller and people would still bash the anatomy

[Anonymous No.3746335]

Joined some furry groups on FB hoping to get some ez commission money. They're all loaded with literal children who sell their own work for <$5 so selling my own work is not as ez as planned :(

[Anonymous No.3746345]

>>3746307
Anatomy is easy to criticize because a fuckup can mess up your suspension of disbelief quickly. Our brains are really familiar with hands, we sense when hands are wrong regardless of whether or not we can draw them correctly. So it jumps out a lot to people, and they'll comment on that if they don't know enough to critique your artistic direction, composition or other choices.
I think a lot of quasi-cartoony, anime-y artstyles can be picked at for human anatomy. When you get to Pokemon or Kirby, you're looking more at proportion and perspective.

[Anonymous No.3746391]

>>3746307
You need to understand muh AESTHETICS. Look at Shinchan, Bomberman, Kirby, and any pokemon you're trying to bring up. Look how despite not being technically ""correct,"" the style is cohesive and within that style/world/etc. these characters and their proportions seem "right." If someone's shitting on your anatomy in a piece, it's because your ""cartoony"" style doesn't look ""cartoony,"" just wrong.

[Anonymous No.3746502]

Every time I post in a thread it dies.

....say goodbye to this thread everyone. It's cursed now.

[Anonymous No.3746512]

>>3746307
Try to think about why nobody criticizes the anatomy of Shinchan, Bomberman and Kirby in the first place. I'm sure you can figure it out from there.

[Anonymous No.3746719]

>>3736279
Shoutout to all the fake ass niggas who follow u just to unfollow after u follow back

[Anonymous No.3746840]

>>3736292
This has to be pasta. The last time I visited ic, about 5 months ago, someone posted something almost exactly the same.

[Anonymous No.3746855]

>>3746719
thats why you only follow people you genuinely like.

[Anonymous No.3746976]

>>3743995
>Their color management is shit and everyone knows it. People have posted side by sides for a while now. Fuck off with your snark.


What have they posted?

[Anonymous No.3746979]

>>3746719
its me :D

[Anonymous No.3746983]

>>3743961

only literal brainlets pay for adobe stuff lmaoo