/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.3724824]

I want to pick up drawing for the sole purpose of drawing cute anime girls. I have some basic knowledge about form and perspective from my time at school but other than that I'm completely shit. I've tried "Fun with a Pencil" but I can't stand practicing with his art style. Copying pictures is slightly more fun but it doesn't help me advance my technique, I feel. I've looked up the "How To" section at pixvie but I feel overwhelmed by the moon runes.

Can you recommend me a step by step tutorial/book so I can build up my basics?

[Anonymous No.3724831]

>>3724824
Im in the same boat and i feel like the only way forward is to just keep going do a little everyday and look up how to draw certain things.
Even tho i too feel like im missing some basics and dont really know where to get them
>LOOMIES

[Anonymous No.3724909]

>>3724824
Disclaimer: This is massively oversimplified and probably very opinionated

Start off with some basic perspective first. I know you might find it boring, but it's pretty much mandatory if you want to get anywhere with inventive drawing.
Perspective Made Easy + Dynamic Sketching should give you some solid ground. It shouldn't take too long to go through them.

After you're done with that, you can start to go into figure drawing. Judging from your post, you're probably already very bored and impatient at this point, so you can just jump right into teal's tutorials:
http://imgur.com/a/WJSIp
http://imgur.com/a/8eHzD
Apply his lessons into either your own original drawings or studies of your favorite anime artists.

Once you had your fun, try to get into more serious figure drawing studies. Just pick any one of these teachers that catches your fancy and go through their book:
-Michael Hampton
-Glenn Vilppu
-Steve Huston
-Andrew Loomis

If you also want to also about clothes, supplement your lessons with any one of this book:
-Burne Hogarth's Dynamic Wrinkles & Drapery
-Barbara Bradley
-Michael Massen
-Cliff Young

While you're going to need to do a lot of real figure studies, remember to never actually stop drawing anime or anime studies. Jump back to teal's lessons any time you feel frustrated or lost on how to apply the knowledge from these books to anime drawings.

These should get you to a decent level. But more importantly, hopefully you will develop deeper passion for art and a good habit of drawing regularly. If at by this point you want to cultivate your skill even more and delve into the deep ends, the sticky and the Artbook thread should provide you with even more stuff to quench your thirst.

[Anonymous No.3724913]

>>3724824
join the anime study threads, everyone there wants to do EXACTLY that too!!

[Anonymous No.3725039]

>>3724824
>Can you recommend me a step by step tutorial/book so I can build up my basics?
ctrl paint

[Anonymous No.3725064]

>>3724824
There isn't really any good/properly translated material for japanese art. Your best bet would just be to copy your favorite artists a LOT while staying sharp all the time to pick up new knowledge as you go. You should study real, as in REAL muscle and anatomy for certain parts of the body that copying wouldn't normally cut. I'd say this method, while does not guarantee great gains, is still a very good method because you can thoroughly enjoy yourself doing it.

[Anonymous No.3725222]

draw anime a shit ton, like a shit ton shit ton

like find artists you like and draw what they make, but don't just xerox it, draw it the way they would, try to follow the weight of their strokes, rough sketches work far better

That will be hard for a while but if you do that in conjunction with >>3724909 you'll start to pick it up.

"copying pictures" won't get you better very quickly but trying to emulate and closely study works will

[Anonymous No.3725233]

>>3724909
>Perspective Made Easy

Alright, why does no one recommend this book first? I'm struggling to even draw cubes in perspective, but most anons seem to recommend Loomis right away.

>>3725222
Would Keys to Drawing help then?

[Anonymous No.3725333]

>>3725233
Because Loomis teaches the importance of construction and simplified forms, once you got that i would recommend Michael Hampton Figure drawing to learn how to draw poses and learn the "flow", after that you just learn basic/simplified anatomy, and the last step is to set your style of animu.

[Anonymous No.3725348]

>I want to pick up drawing for the sole purpose of drawing cute anime girls.
I don't think this is a good reason to pick up art IMO. There isn't really such thing as "drawing anime". The "anime" style comes from the detail that you add which doesn't have much to do with the base. Anime artists basically draw a realistic and in proportion human body and then draw anime detail over that.

[Anonymous No.3725355]

>>3724824
well then you won't go far period. Loomis, Hampton and all that shit is applicable even to chibi. Feel free to run like a headless chicken for years, but fundies are no joke.

[Anonymous No.3725363]

>>3725355
Ideally, how would you practice when going through Loomis? Just draw everything he does?

[Anonymous No.3725389]

>>3725363
yes, thats a good start, then try applying his step by step process to something from imagination.

[Anonymous No.3725436]

>>3725233
Everyone recommends that book (perspective made easy) b/c you have to have an understanding of the fact that not only do objects look smaller when they get farther away but they also have some very specific rules about how they look smaller. In other words, you need perspective. Perspective made easy, is just that, an easy, and simplified version of perspective that doesn't bog you down too much in the detail and just shoots you straight. If you want something a little more advanced (which I'm gonna guess you don't) I would recommend pic related. It explores the same concepts but in much greater detail and with many more examples... but as a result has a lot more talk of rules, etc.
TL;DR? You need to know that if you move an object around, or look around an object it is going to look different based on how you view it.
Also, I can totally sympathize. I started drawing just to draw porn, and now I'm certain anatomy will be the death of me.

[Anonymous No.3725437]

>>3725436
The best thing I remember from that book is the fact that perspective should be drawn into a sketch and not the other way around. In other words, starting a drawing with planes and cubes and spheres is completely backwards.

[Anonymous No.3725439]

>>3724824
Loomis isn't about copying his heads, its about learning to draw ANY head at any angle. If you couldn't figure that out youre never ever gonna make it

[Anonymous No.3725441]

>>3725436
> you have to have an understanding of the fact that not only do objects look smaller when they get farther away
Yeah, I've at least got that down, playing with cubes helped.

I'll probably move onto that book once I get a foundation from Made Easy. And a base for everything else. Fuck.

>Also, I can totally sympathize. I started drawing just to draw porn, and now I'm certain anatomy will be the death of me.
I'm heading down the same route you are, probably. Most of the time when I'm not practicing something specific like construction I'm pulling up a reference of some girl with huge knockers and trying to copy that.

[Anonymous No.3725452]

Not OP, but I wanted to ask a question that might be related to this thread.

How does one go about drawing from imagination? I'm not a decent artist but I can manage to copy a picture or draw something from life if I try really hard, but drawing from imagination just looks like black magic. I figure most artists actually use a lot of reference pictures or even 3D models as a guide for their drawing, but that's a really a turn off for me. I think that being able to draw stuff from imagination (not necessarily realistic, which would probably be a lot harder, but even only stylized characters) is so much cooler than "cheating" your way out with models and references. Is it even possible to learn how to draw from imagination?

[Anonymous No.3725515]

>>3725452
>Is it even possible to learn how to draw from imagination?
yup

[Anonymous No.3725875]

>>3725452
I'd learn how to make meaningful posts instead if I were you. You yourself already know the answer to that, the question you made isn't even a bad attempt at begging for reassurance, it's just stupid, anon. Anyway, yes it's absolutely possible to draw from imagination and I don't know why and how anyone would ever think otherwise. If you can see the image in your head then you can draw it. Uh-oh, turns out you can't because you actually don't really know what a hand looks like but you refuse to open references? well, then go draw hands a lot. By a lot, I mean A LOT. Draw it over and over again, until it's forcefully burnt into your memory, or even to the point it becomes muscle memory (this is a bit bad actually). This is what people call visual library. You can extend your visual library by just observing things, but obviously you'll get it down much quickly if you actually DO instead of just WATCH. So yes, the ultimate answer to help you draw from imagination is: just draw.

[Anonymous No.3728174]

>>3724824
Draw cute anime girls for a few times and doing different poses. Use your critical sense to pinpoint your flaws. Read /beg/ books on form/perspective/basic anatomy like loomis (but dont make FWP your bible, pick up what you can to make your art better and move on). Watch some Proko videos. Read Bammes, Hogarth, Vilppu to git gud in anatomy.
Basically draw anime girls. When you ask for feedback and some nigger says "fundies" you'll go practice fundies drawing anime girls. Also never get into the grind mentality, like the fags that say you have to draw 100 lines on a notebook everyday or you're ngmi. Just have fun until you can draw cute catgirls.