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I'm trying to learn perspective and I'm struggling, any tips?
Image is my own practice

>> No.3708828
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3708828

More examples of my practice

>> No.3708836

Perspective =/= exaggerated FOV

Study basic linear perspective.

>> No.3708837

>>3708827
Oh heeeeyyyy, I follow you on twitter.
Love your work.

(I think they look fine, though I'm very inexperienced in this field.)

>> No.3708838

>>3708836
I'm more going for forced perspective, not natural perspective

>> No.3708841

>>3708837
Ayyy, thank you.

>> No.3708849

>>3708841
Anyday, anytime.
Hapy late birthday, by the way.

Hope you share whatever you learn with us over on Twitter, huh?
Make sure you link to any useful resources too. :)

>> No.3708850
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>>3708827
Draw a rectangle in perspective and then your character inside like pic related.

>> No.3708854

>>3708850
I've tried the rectangle thing before, it hasn't really helped me for some reason

>> No.3708863

>>3708850
>"draw a rectangle"
>pic clearly shows cylinders
Anyway he is right, a good way to do this is to draw your character in a cube, then apply perspective to the cube. If you know how to divide it to use it as an help for how your character's proportion should appear, it'll put you on the right track.

Forced perspective is another thing though, as it relies more on what the artist "feels" right

>> No.3708865

>>3708863
I'll try the cube thing some more, it's possible that it didn't click with me due to my inexperience. Thanks!

>> No.3708868

>>3708854
You can combined it with the coilover technique.

>> No.3708873
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>>3708838
>>3708827
Then you're pretty fucking ignorant and naive, and don't know what the fuck you're talking about in any way, shape or form.

Learn basic fucking perspective, then apply it to the figure as you see fit.

Why the fuck do beginners always think that "forced perspective" or "dynamic perspective" or any other goddamn fucking moronic term they decide to invent for LINEAR PERSPECTIVE BEING CORRECTLY APPLIED IN A DRAWING THAT HAS AN EXAGGERATED FOV is some separate fucking thing apart from knowledge of how to apply BASIC LINEAR PERSPECTIVE?

Fuck I hate beginners and their fucking beginner thoughts.

Here, have a video showing BASIC FUCKING PERSPECTIVE being applied to the figure to make WHATEVER THE FUCK YOU EVER FUCKING WANT TO DRAW IN ANY MANNER EVER IN YOUR FUCKING LIFE.


Guess what KJG knows. That's right! Linear perspective! And he's applying in the same way that anybody who can fucking draw will tell you to! Just like Loomis and Bridgman and anybody fucking else!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uylB8djVDxE

>> No.3708876

>>3708873
I'm not a beginner, dude. I've been drawing for years, and I actually know what I'm talking about when it comes to things like colour theory or framing.
Forced perspective *is* the term for what I'm struggling with. It's a term that gets across what I'm trying to do.

Don't be shitty.

>> No.3708878

>>3708876
You are shitty and you deserve to have a hard time with everything you are trying to right now because you are a damn ignorant beginner who thinks that because they get some "likes" or "retweets" for your terrible anime boobies that they somehow know much more than they do.
Enjoy being bad, Mr. Dunning. Say hi to Kreuger for me.

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>>3708876
>I'm not a beginner, dude. I've been drawing for years

>> No.3708882

>>3708873
Post your work anon, no one is going to take this outburst seriously unless you do.

>> No.3708883

>>3708878
Nah, fuck off mate.
Even if I *was* a beginner, even if I *was* being an idiot with Dunning Kreuger, this is not how you respond to someone asking for advice.
Because how dare I not be born drawing fucking perfectly, right?
How dare I go to a public forum to ask how to do a thing I'm struggling with, right?
How DARE I use a term you don't like to describe something I don't fully understand, right?
You could have just linked the video, fucker.

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>>3708883

>> No.3708885

>>3708876
I'm not autisticscreechfag, but have you read loomis? if not, worth downloading, the sticky's got links.

>> No.3708887

>>3708885
Thanks, I'll definitely check it out

>> No.3708891

>>3708887
you might be able to bail outta this cancerous thread and just do some diving into Figure Drawing for All It's Worth instead, yo. :)

>> No.3708892

>>3708883
And you could've tried to pull your head out of your ass for at least one post, but neither of us did what the other would've wanted. Whattashame.

>> No.3708894

>>3708891
Probably a better idea desu

>> No.3708895

>>3708873
Great post Anon! You sure showed everyone what a badass you are with that one!

>> No.3708897

>>3708827

>Norling - Perspective Made Easy
>Drawabox Tutorials
>Micheal Hampton - Figure Design and invention

In that order.

>> No.3708898

>>3708892
What the fuck is the point of your existence?

>> No.3708899

>>3708898
To clarify beginnerspeak.

>> No.3708900

>>3708899
what a waste of fucking skin.

>> No.3708901

>>3708827
Learn to free hand 1point and 2point perspective ,draw boxes and other basic shapes in perspective.

>> No.3708902

>>3708899
Autistic screeching isn't clarifying anything, anon

>> No.3708903

>>3708900
You're welcome. Remember to tell OP to thank me later, since they're agreeing to look at everything I recommended when people say it more tumblr-friendly to them :)

>> No.3708905

>>3708903
>not chimping out over nothing means you're an esjaydubja
Just post your work screechanon

>> No.3708906

>>3708903
I'm sure your very extensive list will be heavily studied, you sub-nigger.

>> No.3708907

>>3708903
Only SJW's like being given advice without being called a fucking idiot for not magically knowing things.
Of course.
How could I have been so blind.

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>>3708905
You really want to be shown up, don't you?

>> No.3708911

>>3708909
That sucks, screechanon

>> No.3708912

>>3708909
I'll assume this is a fake screechanon trying to make him look bad just to be charitable

>> No.3708913

>>3708907
To be fair, you have to be pretty blind to think anything of OP's looks good, so...

>> No.3708915
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>>3708909
Lmaoing at your life

>> No.3708916

hope you're not still in thread, OP.
you've got some practice to do and this all this /b/-tier cancer's keeping you from growing. :)

I'll see how you've improved on twitter later, yeah? Make sure you post your exercises, they'll give me some inspiration too.

>> No.3708918

>>3708909
such strong, confident lines,

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>>3708913
Eh, if screechanon's gonna show his art I'll show some actually finished pieces

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>>3708911
>>3708912
>>3708915
>>3708916
>>3708918
Sorry, here it is after I started the color on it.
You might want to find another safe space that isn't /ic/ for your next beginner questions, folks.
Or post in the /beg/ threads if you only want pats on the back.

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>>3708916

>> No.3708925

>>3708920
She looks dead inside.

>> No.3708933

>>3708920
sorry, looks like I took off my glasses, I can't wait to see how sharp this AMAZING PIECE OF WORK actually loo-

oh. the muddiness was intended?
looks like the bottom of a fucking septic tank.

And c'mon, if you were gonna steal a random thumbnail photo, least you could do is steal something, y'know.
>fucking
>good?

>> No.3708934

>>3708920
Love how her hair looks like a model from a PS1 game and how she has absolutely no weight to her at all.
Good job, anon. Really showing us.

>> No.3708935

>>3708873
post work

>> No.3708939

>>3708920
>cough

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEqnwDreutM

>> No.3708941

>>3708935
He did and it's bad

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>>3708939
Holy shit he stole it.
Oh my god this is ridiculous.

>> No.3708951

>you will never be this new again
we're gonna get flooded with shit like this in a couple weeks, aren't we

>> No.3708952

I'm gonna go do something worthwhile with my valuable time.

Nice seeing you, twitter anon.
I'll buy some of your stickers next paycheck I get. You happened to put the 2 best girls on one set, so I'm definitely picking some up.

Go do some studies. :]

>> No.3708953

That was quite the hijacking.
I appreciate the real advice from the actual art anons here, thanks guys. I'm gonna check out the resources you linked for sure.

>> No.3708956

>>3708952
I'm gonna go do some studies, anon.
This was ridiculous, but I got given some actually good links among all of *that*, so it turned out fine.

>> No.3708960

>>3708956
The sticky is your bff.

AND STAY THE FUCK AWAY FROM 4CHAN NEXT TIME.

>> No.3708966

>>3708956
You're welcome. Remember to watch the Kim Jung Gi video I linked you to get an idea of what basic linear fucking perspective can do, and get out of your beginner mindset :)
>>3708960
Seconded.

>> No.3708967

>>3708960
Oh, definitely

>> No.3708969

>>3708966
Ah fuck off screechanon, don't pretend you helped. Art thief.

>> No.3708971

>>3708969
This sort of naivete is almost precious.

>> No.3708973

>>3708878
Just like how you deserve a hard time with everyone else on this board?

>> No.3708976

>>3708827
have you tried the /beg/ thread yet OP?

>> No.3708981

>>3708976
I tried the /beg/ thread, didn't get any responses

>> No.3708989

>>3708981
saaave yourseeeeelf

>> No.3708993

>>3708920
Why the fuck does almost no one in this thread know this piece of painting? I thought /ic/ liked to talk about RJ.

>> No.3708994

>>3708981
Just be patient with the /beg/ thread, it is slow,

>> No.3708996

>>3708993
To be fair I don't really watch speed draws and things, and I'm not well versed in painty PS artists

>> No.3709000

>>3708993
Because this is a thread filled with newbies thanks to tumblr no longer allowing their shittily drawn porn.

>> No.3709006

These kinds of threads are the reason I come to /ic/.

>> No.3709022

>>3708996
So it's actually happening?

>> No.3709024

>>3708993
this. it's obviously RJ just by looking at the colors

>> No.3709061

>>3708876
You're not a beginner but you have beginner level skills. That's not an insult or a put down. Based on your sketches I'd say try to spend more time on realism and save your cartoons for free time. You dont appear to have much of a grasp on fundamentals (not saying you are bad) to be exclusively drawing and practicing cartoons.

>> No.3709067

>>3708920
>posts others unfinished work
>That will teach them to disregard my opinion.

>> No.3709105

>>3708827
You're stylizing too early and I can see you're not even constructing, just going for outer contours by the looks of your third drawing's legs. Practice translating real human models into boxes and cylinders.

>> No.3709336

>>3708828
That girl has the best hairstyle.

>> No.3710009

>>3708876
I don't think your talking about forced perspective as that's more of a photography thing but by the drawings you posted I think you mean foreshortening which in that case this video was helpful for me

https://youtu.be/eJWLaDSNBAI

>> No.3710081

>>3708878
don't be so autistic, faggot

>> No.3710947
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>>3708827
it looks to me like you don't have basic understanding of the forms you use to construct and draw a body in perspective. whenever i draw a body i try to use 3d shapes. i'm no pro, but one of the exercises i try to do is rotating a pose.
https://twitter.com/pine_apa02/status/1070090735733694464

look up krenz cushart's gumroad on pose rotation, and after the 3D rendering engine in your brain levels up you'll be able draw things in warped perspective better

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>>3708827
in a lot of situations, because a picture is 2d, you have to do a lot to make it look 3d if you're trying to do a '3d look,' aside from linear perspective, that's stuff like composing scenes that look 'deep' with really obvious overlaps and layers, forcing and exaggerating perspective, forcing and exaggerating poses for figures, using architectural language like structural shapes, holes(windows), and levels to build up the space.

so like try think about those things especially if it's figures, linear perspective is less useful than some showmanship in many circumstances

>> No.3711012

>>3708827
learn to RESIZE your fucking posts

>> No.3711095

>>3710947
the fuck your draw is way better than op one. He s not even close to your lvl.

>> No.3711132

>>3711095
3 pictures, so it's 1000x1700 per picture is is perfectly fine bro, i know 4chan has shitty badwidth but 1.5mb can't hurt anyone

>> No.3711134

>>3711132
you probably think op isn't a beginner either lol
don't be shitty

>> No.3711139

>>3708873
Poat your work example of linear perspective

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>>3711095
let's not get into a pissing contest, i just put a lot of time into grinding figures, i have no points in painting or color. i'm still trying to iron out my anatomy and forms too.

i think if OP wants to take a more graphical approach to drawing characters he still needs some practice with drawing simple shapes in perspective. if, say, you can warp a sphere, cylinder, and box in perspective, then you can probably warp a simplified character.