Anime Study General

[Anonymous No.3682516]

Discord: https://discord.gg/3bwdfRk

**If you make good copies of anime *properly*, you will be able to draw good anime. If you make bad copies of anime or bad anime styled drawings from photos, you will get better at drawing bad anime. Please think carefully about how you are studying.**

This is the place for:

1. Posting your anime studies:
>Copy exactly but don’t do it aimlessly. Integrate drawing concepts (construction, color theory, tracing, etc.) into your studies in order to pull information from the reference (anime art, figurines, tutorials) that you can later use for your original work.
>Do a single study multiple times to ensure you address all of your mistakes and memorize the correct process in your head. Draw it from memory as well.
>You will only be able to effectively deviate from your reference after doing exact copy studies accurately and consistently.
2. General anime style discussion:
>Questions about achieving certain styles/techniques/compositions etc.
>Drawing methods, study habits, resources, tutorials, tools, software, etc
>Be specific and try to post a sample of your study attempts before asking for help.

**Keep most of your personal works for /alt/ or the other critique threads. Here we should be drawing copies from good references to mindfully up our mileage, internalize appealing aesthetics, and learn from each other’s processes and knowledge.**

General Art Overview:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bz_mE9a29gsEd09TemJMNTJMWGs

Japanese Book Collection:
https://mega.nz/#F!UcNG2AiT!jeyWwP1gtQXXz6R29o5bgw!sddDyarD

Recommended Reading:
Keys to Drawing by Bert Dodson
>How to see, measure, and copy. Being loose and confident with your lines.
https://mega.nz/#F!sSYAxKqb!f2gWy-eQZJNvRfiUTu1ASA!kXowRQaD?lOZ3TAxT
Figure Drawing for Artists: Making Every Mark Count by Steve Huston
>Simple and effective method for constructing the figure.
https://mega.nz/#!uKoxiYoD!9QrUfPyk1xQLFc_K0hBW-DG7nHUWwKcbRtCfuV_pK8E

Previous Thread: >>3668222

[Anonymous No.3682522]

Anime Tutorial Sites:
https://www.pixiv.net/howto
https://sensei.pixiv.net/
https://www.palmie.jp/

Sankaku Complex Tags: https://chan.sankakucomplex.com/?tags=color_trace
>how-to_guide, character_sheet, expression_chart, turnaround, concept_art, production_art, color_trace, anime_coloring, fake_screenshot, 80s, 90s

Head Drawing Tutorials:
Steve Huston: https://youtu.be/2T7cDY7YDsg
Babelab: http://babelab.blogspot.com/2011/11/feature-creep-constraining-face.html

General Tutorials:
電繪狂 Pin2D: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLd9YlgrhwWqCSiGwPwA_N_nqKfTLY1Kn8
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqerFtuc6nZ5NnJrsl0epww/videos
DokiDoki Drawing: https://youtu.be/t_IODIIYAe0
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCY-tGAhulrOzRd6n1mLZwSg/videos
Pixiv One: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLulf7UObD28VWM2kRb7keI6_lbxQgm4jC
AnimeSijyuku: https://twitter.com/animesijyuku
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRYuHKwhgfCighvhR3n151w/videos

**Suggest some other resources that are useful for anime studies.**

[Anonymous No.3682886]

Anyone know any artists that draw in this sketchy traditional style?

[Anonymous No.3682887]

>>3682886

[Anonymous No.3683566]

>>3682886
chinese and taiwanese concept artists on artstation

[Anonymous No.3683574]

What do we do when anime becomes illegal?
Serious question.

[Anonymous No.3683616]

>>3683574
Do you're parents know your gay?
Serious question.

[Anonymous No.3683622]

>>3683616
What is that saying?

[Anonymous No.3683637]

>>3683622
What do you think?

[Anonymous No.3683674]

reposting and requesting

Does anyone know what does it says in here?

It's chinnese but still

[Anonymous No.3683701]

>>3683674
"Just draw, you stupid fucking nigger. Actually pick up a pencil and draw something."

My chinese is a bit rusty but I think I got the gist of it.

[Anonymous No.3683712]

>>3683701
Very epic post Anon

[Anonymous No.3683757]

>>3683674
it says a picture says a thousand words or something like that

[Anonymous No.3683766]

>>3683674

[Anonymous No.3683862]

>>3683701
Made me chuckle

[Anonymous No.3684665]

Posting some Video Girl AI illustrations because the style/manga is majorly underrated. It's like neo-Art Deco

[Anonymous No.3684877]

>>3684665

[Anonymous No.3684899]

>>3683616
>tfw can read the hira and kana, but dont understand what they mean anyways
brb, time to commit sudoku

[Anonymous No.3684977]

>>3684899
the bulk of the actual meaning is in the kanji anyways, good job

[Anonymous No.3684985]

>>3682516
This discord sucks I joined for a few and got bots sending me private messages

[Anonymous No.3684987]

>>3684985
damn that sucks dude... are you okay? my thoughts are with you

[Anonymous No.3684988]

>>3683674
Look at those proportions. Why do you even use this book

[Anonymous No.3684989]

>>3682516
You are not studying anime, you study manga, dipshit. Nobody here will ever work on an animation movie.

[Anonymous No.3684991]

>>3684989
got 'em XD

[Anonymous No.3684994]

>>3684991
I am dead serious, dipshit. I am tired of these retards calling everything "anime".

[Anonymous No.3684996]

>>3684994
>uhm it's ka ra tay, not kar ra tee
thanks nerd

[Anonymous No.3685005]

>>3684996
>nerd
You people here make a thread about "studying manga", and call people "dumb nerds XD" when they actually have a clue about it?

That's your problem. Whenever I see a thread like this, I know it's done by a clueless faggot anyway.
Anyone who takes this topic here seriously won't "study anime". They will study manga.

[Anonymous No.3685010]

>>3685005
/r/iamverysmart

[Anonymous No.3685012]

>>3685005
actually it's not manga, it's 漫画

thread title should be 漫画勉強組, dipshits

[Anonymous No.3685013]

>>3685010
No you are just very stupid. I immediately notice you have no clue by calling everything simply "anime". The western definition of anime is "japanese animation movie".

[Anonymous No.3685023]

>>3685012
>hurr let's make a thread for comic fans, but instead call it "animation movie thread"
That's how stupid you are.

[Anonymous No.3685024]

>>3683637
What the fuck kind of response is that

[Anonymous No.3685070]

>>3685005
Stop being so fucking autistic god dammit your posts on the other thread were rife with bullshit and name calling over shit no one fucking cares about
Post your work or die

[Anonymous No.3685076]

>>3685070
>Post your work or die

Careful with that edge. You might hurt others.

[Anonymous No.3685080]

>>3685070
>having actual knowledge about the topic means you are "autistic"

[Anonymous No.3685085]

>All this shittalk and no posting of work

Wow, it's really like I'm in an anime study thread full of weeb NEETS, huh

[Anonymous No.3685091]

>>3685085
Any self-respecting manga artist won't even post here. They will just post in the stylization thread.

That's why I am telling people here that the thread reeks of stupidity.

[Anonymous No.3685094]

>>3685091
Both threads are shit. And nobody here can draw manga besides those 2 people who entered the manga contest last year.

[Anonymous No.3685096]

>>3685094
Or was that this year? Time does fly by....

[Anonymous No.3685098]

>>3685094
>nobody here can draw manga besides those 2 people who entered the manga contest last year
That's still 2 more people than the amount of people who made an anime here.

[Anonymous No.3685101]

>>3685098

It's common practice to say "draw anime" because it's an umbrella term for english speaking people. Everyone knows what you mean by drawing anime in reference to the style.

[Anonymous No.3685105]

>>3685101
>it's an umbrella term for english speaking people
No, the english definition of "anime" is "japanese animation movie".
It's only an umbrella term for people who have no clue about the subject. Only people who have absolutely no clue say "oh he draws anime". Nobody in the west draws fucking anime.

[Anonymous No.3685107]

>>3685105
can you please stop sperging out thanks

[Anonymous No.3685108]

>>3685105
>Only people who have absolutely no clue say "oh he draws anime".
Do you want to post your mal?

[Anonymous No.3685109]

>>3685107
I am merely trying to help you here. If you pander to clueless retards with your thread titles, you also won't get good artists to post here.

Enjoy your dead threads I guess.

[Anonymous No.3685110]

>>3685108
>he uses mal

Oh you want to use that excuse again? Hm? Okay then, stfu if you don't even watch anime. You literally sound like you've only watched less than 10 shows and you're a 14 year old expert.

[Anonymous No.3685112]

>>3685109
post your mal or gtfo

[Anonymous No.3685132]

>>3685112
post the anime you worked on or gtfo

where is your japanese animation movie?

[Anonymous No.3685142]

e-everyone lets j-just all be nice to each other! you're all good hardworking people who just want to get better at drawing anime, manga whatever you want to call it! no need to fight, right? right!

[Anonymous No.3685143]

>>3685132
1. I'm not Japanese, I'm black.
2. I'm not in Japan. Therefore my animation wouldn't be "Japanese animation".
3. Japanese animation "movie" isn't a 1 man project no matter how much your autism wants to believe if we want to play with semantics.

Therefore when we refer to anime as english speakers, we're referring to the style.

[Anonymous No.3685148]

>>3685142
fucking kill yourself jesus christ.

[Anonymous No.3685154]

>>3685132

[Anonymous No.3685156]

>>3685143
>I make my own definitions
Typical blacky. Ignorance is bliss

>Japanese animation "movie" isn't a 1 man project
There is an anime which has been produced by a single person. Again, you don't know shit.

Plus you also don't realize that you don't have to be japanese to make an anime. A lot of people who work on anime are actually korean too.

If you don't want people to believe you try to make anime, then simply stop acting as if you do.

[Anonymous No.3685158]

>>3685154
>>3685148

[Anonymous No.3685161]

>>3685156
1. Yeah those are called reels. Animation students need those to, you know, get jobs in those korean sweatshops.
2. 1 answers 2
3. post your mal.

[Anonymous No.3685167]

I'd post more trad sketches but I figure it offends the eyes

[Anonymous No.3685170]

>>3685167
Not anime. That's manga. Get out.

[Anonymous No.3685172]

>>3685170
manga master race

[Anonymous No.3685174]

>he actually deleted it
lmao

[Anonymous No.3685395]

>>3685142

[Anonymous No.3685587]

>>3684899
There are about 6-7 basic ass kanji that you should know if you even bothered to start learning them. Get some shit on anki (basic kanji book, core 2k/6k), read nhkeasynews, and get going. It's fine to learn things out of order, some of these you'll see again and again. Learn to use handwriting recognition to figure out kanji you don't know yet either with google translate or https://kanji.sljfaq.org/draw-canvas.html

目、色、無、描、少、小、好

[Anonymous No.3685600]

>>3685024
ti means stop being a retarded nigger and look at the image, its pretty obvious what the text is saying if you have a functioning brain

[Anonymous No.3685604]

>>3684899
>he isn't fluent in japanese
ngmi

[Anonymous No.3685642]

mods please fucking nuke this thread it's beyond saving at this point let's just make a new one but without the sperg and all the faggots who feed the bait thank

[Anonymous No.3685653]

>>3684989
>>3685005
You can also benefit from studying anime keyframes, even if you aren't really planning on animating. And besides what would you call the typical illustrators on pixiv that never published a manga? A blanket name is more convenient this way

[Anonymous No.3685670]

>>3685653
>ou can also benefit from studying anime keyframes
Only retards do this.

>what would you call the typical illustrators on pixiv
I would call them manga artists of course. Or manga style illustrators.
If someone draws illustrations of spiderman, you also don't call him "animation artist". You either call him comic artist or comic style illustrator.

[Anonymous No.3685673]

>>3685670
>Only retards do this.
How so? Animators have a unique knack in depicting motion and flow that illustrators don't have. So why not study them?

>I would call them manga artists of course. Or manga style illustrators.
Both of them is just as inaccurate if you're trying to view it from a prescriptivist mindset. Both manga and anime technically have no predetermined stylistic boundaries. So if you're going for strict definitions, neither of them makes any sense.

[Anonymous No.3685688]

>>3685673
>How so?
Manga has much better quality art generally. Of course, you can also study anime sometimes, but it makes much more sense to study manga. Only reason to study anime is if you want to become an animator.

>prescriptivist
Oh look who is acting smart by using fancy words without saying shit..

>Both manga and anime technically have no predetermined stylistic boundaries.
An anime is an animation movie. Something nobody here will ever work on. A manga is a comic. Something which already got posted here.

Many of these pixiv illustrators actually already made short manga. Pretty much every good artist who draws in a manga style, already made at least a very short manga. It's just common sense to call it "manga artist", not "anime artist".

Just fuck off. Only retards would say "hihi I draw anime". Those retards who actually don't even draw, but just watch their shitty moe shows all day. I already draw this shit since decades, and I never said "hihi I draw anime".

[Anonymous No.3685712]

>>3685688
>Manga has much better quality art generally
I really have to disagree on you about that. There's no reason or evidence manga would have better art quality in general. If anything, anime tend to have better quality control (if you're looking at the better studios, at least.) due to them having highly experienced directors that basically directly redlines the key animators' work. Mangaka have editors too, but they are rarely as scrutinizing in regards to the technical side of the drawing quality.

>Oh look who is acting smart by using fancy words without saying shit..
Don't know what else to call your particular point of view.

>An anime is an animation movie. Something nobody here will ever work on. A manga is a comic. Something which already got posted here.
Again, if you want "correct" definitions, "Anime" just means animation. It could mean a 3-second self-published animated clip on YouTube, it could mean an hour long movie by a highly-regarded studio in a theater. Anybody here could just as likely to work on "anime" as they are on "manga".

>Many of these pixiv illustrators actually already made short manga.
And there's a lot of pixiv illustrators that made short animation clips too. And a lot other that made both animation clips and short manga. Neither of them makes more sense than the other.

>Just fuck off. Only retards would say "hihi I draw anime". Those retards who actually don't even draw, but just watch their shitty moe shows all day. I already draw this shit since decades, and I never said "hihi I draw anime".
Definitions shouldn't be affected by your very personal feelings.

[Anonymous No.3685720]

>>3685688
>I already draw this shit since decades,
not that anon but you've been gloating so hard on all of your replies. Let's see that work of yours, big boy

[Anonymous No.3685799]

>>3685712
>I really have to disagree on you about that
Of course you, because you are fucking stupid. Manga is personal. Anime is just mainstream shit created by a huge team on an assembly line. Any artist with common sense searches mainly in manga for inspiration, not fucking anime.

>There's no reason or evidence manga would have better art quality in general.
Then go and show me a single picture in an anime which looks as good as pic related. Anime obviously has better animations, sure, but manga has better single pictures.

>Anybody here could just as likely to work on "anime" as they are on "manga"
You are clearly just stupid. It makes no sense talking to you. Nobody wastes time with creating 5 second animations, except for some rare autists. Anyone who wants to create stories with this draws manga.

>Neither of them makes more sense than the other.
Then call them simply illustrators, I really don't care. To me they are just doujin artists.

>Definitions shouldn't be affected by your very personal feelings.
Has nothing to do with feelings. It's simply a fact that nobody here will ever do an anime. I did a flip-book once, but that doesn't mean I made anime, fucktard. The defintition of this word means japanese animation movie in the west.

Any talented artist doesn't watch anime anymore anyway. It's clear that only retards dwell here. Manga is the only thing still respected by good artists.
.

[Anonymous No.3685832]

>>3685799
>It's clear that only retards dwell here
lol I hate to break it to you anon but you're here too

[Anonymous No.3685834]

>>3685799
Give source

[Anonymous No.3685966]

>>3685799
>Of course you, because you are fucking stupid. Manga is personal. Anime is just mainstream shit created by a huge team on an assembly line. Any artist with common sense searches mainly in manga for inspiration, not fucking anime.
Manga is just as much as a rushed assembly line of drones as anime can be, if you're only willing to look at the lowest common denominator.
Just because a work is created by a single person does not make the work any better. This only makes sense if the artist have a consistent, high level of artistic vision and integrity which is definitely not a common thing in manga, OR anime.
Generalizing an entire medium like that simply doesn't make any sense, especially seeing you are willing to single out a top 0.1% artist like Inoue to generalize the entire manga medium, but refuses to do the same for anime.
And of course when you're correctly studying anime, you aren't studying a random batch of keyframes by a random nobody from a random anime. You're studying specific keyframes by a specific artist they deem to be highly competent.

>Then go and show me a single picture in an anime which looks as good as pic related.
Ok.

>Anime obviously has better animations, sure, but manga has better single pictures.
Nobody is saying that you should never study manga or that you should only study anime by the literal sense. There's value in studying both. If you want to study a specific aspect like painterly rendering or hatching, then go ahead and study manga. Whatever is needed to improve a skillset you desire, you should do.
Trying to dogmatically confine yourself to something as arbitrary as a single medium just doesn't make any sense. It's much more productive to judge at the level of individual artists.

[Anonymous No.3685967]

>>3685966
>You are clearly just stupid. It makes no sense talking to you. Nobody wastes time with creating 5 second animations, except for some rare autists
You're moving goalposts.
But a lot of artists do in fact make very short animation clips for practice, even professional animators, I'm not sure why this is news to you.

>Anyone who wants to create stories with this draws manga
I don't know what this has to do with anything. You're trying to define stylistic categories, not what you think people should want to make. And this thread is almost entirely filled with illustrators, making your point even more irrelevant

>Has nothing to do with feelings. It's simply a fact that nobody here will ever do an anime. I did a flip-book once, but that doesn't mean I made anime, fucktard.
You're contradicting yourself yet again. "Anime" just means animation right?

>Then call them simply illustrators, I really don't care. To me they are just doujin artists.
So you're going to abolish something as useful as the whole idea of stylistic categories just because of your personal feelings?

>The defintition of this word means japanese animation movie in the west.
Neither the dictionary, nor the popular usage defines the word that way. I'm not sure what world you are living in

>Any talented artist doesn't watch anime anymore anyway. It's clear that only retards dwell here. Manga is the only thing still respected by good artists.
This just makes it obvious how little you understand of this medium and industry as a whole.

[Anonymous No.3686043]

Are we done here?
Can we post some work now??

[Anonymous No.3686059]

The best way to combat this autistic sperging is to ignore it and just draw. Unironocally post your work guys get this thread back on rails.

[Anonymous No.3686075]

>>3685799
>Any talented artist doesn't watch anime anymore anyway. It's clear that only retards dwell here.

You seem to read a lot of manga. Care you post your MAL account? HM? How are you keeping track of all those chapters you're keeping up with? Hm? Oh thats right, you don't read manga or watch anime.

Now kys.

[Anonymous No.3686084]

How do I paint like this?

[Anonymous No.3686087]

>>3686084
more

[Anonymous No.3686177]

>>3686084
practice painting like that. Look at the pictures and copy them.

[Anonymous No.3686267]

>>3686059
I'll just come back here in a few days or a week, when this thread is fucking dead and a new one is already made.

[Anonymous No.3686275]

Trying to study Tobe Sunaho.
(A) is mine. (B) is the original. Mistakes I noticed are proportional things, some color/value stuff is a little off, gesture is inferior (lost some of the subtly).
(C) Is a quick tachie-sort-of-thing I whipped up after, trying to apply aspects of the Sunaho approach. I'm not sure why I drew the face like that, usually, I do it a little differently, but I'm more concerned with the body. It looks like fucking shit. My end goal with bodies is to be able draw bodies in that real conventional galge kind of look. Pan is a good example:
https://files.yande.re/jpeg/36f047a2e43b8ff9b499e6d2308a02c1/yande.re%20489256%20bikini%20cleavage%20cream%20erect_nipples%20megane%20pan%20pan_no_mimi%20swimsuits%20ten_%28pan_no_mimi%29.jpg
I haven't been doing many studies of this kind of thing because I see how much subtlety they pack into the drawing and get discouraged as fuck. "Give it a year or two until you're more comfortable with anatomy" has been kind of my mentality. This is obviously wrong as OP points out. The artist Itiyann (いちやん) pointed out how he just did studies to get so good (and he's only 1 year older than me but he's been so good so long. Fuck everything). And if you look at the progression of his art, he made a complete style out of his anatomy even tho it was very lightweight in the beginning, and, with time, he packed on more subtly.
So, my question is, even when the amount of anatomical/stylistic subtly is blowing my mind, should I just stop being a puss and just dive in, or is there something that can help road map my way thru these amazing artists' paintings?
Academic-oriented anatomy resources (such as Proko and Hampton and Bridgman) I find to be only minimally helpful since they don't help with the most important part: actually getting the style to not be puke. plz help before I start breaking shit.

[Anonymous No.3686295]

>>3686177
I want to understand it first, though

[Anonymous No.3686348]

>>3686295
Just copy it, dude. It's a somewhat common approach among anime-style painters in Japan, but actually more common among Chinese weebs. Fundamentally, it's just about blocking in planes and then smoothing out their transitions where need be.

[Anonymous No.3686445]

hey lookit muh first animu drawing can i be japanese meow?

[Anonymous No.3686449]

>>3686445
I award this the seal of Western Dog Shit.

[Anonymous No.3686585]

If I want to learn how to draw anime do I start with the board sticky and then come here?

[Anonymous No.3686631]

>>3686585
No need. Just read the thing OP posted.
>General Art Overview:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bz_mE9a29gsEd09TemJMNTJMWGs

Just keep copying good anime-style drawings and trying to come up with shit fully or partially out of your head or edit existing paintings, constantly thinking about gesture, anatomy, style, lighting, etc. Referencing 3D models or figures can be good too.
The final form of most /ic/ advice is basically Stan Prokopenko, and that's not something you want to be.

[Anonymous No.3686652]

>>3683766
could u translate the 2 pages fren?

[Anonymous No.3686956]

>>3686652
it's literally ocr you retard

[Anonymous No.3687012]

>>3683766
what ocr are you using?
I'm using capture2text and it's pretty buggy sometimes

[Anonymous No.3687048]

>>3687012
a chinese friend

[Anonymous No.3687422]

>>3687048
Such a nice friend

[Anonymous No.3687611]

I have always drawn on paper using traditional techniques, can someone guide me a bit on how to learn to color digitally or recommend a good tutorial?

[Anonymous No.3688712]

is it possible to convert this expression into anime? may I see?

[Anonymous No.3688719]

>>3688712
>smug_anime_girl.jpg

[Anonymous No.3688743]

>>3688719
if you think that's smug you should really quit being an artist because you're so out of touch with human expressions of emotions that you'll never be any good

[Anonymous No.3688768]

>>3688743
here is a (You)

>>3688712
literally just search "holding laughter anime expression"

[Anonymous No.3688815]

>>3688768
that's not it either. are all anime people this autistic

[Anonymous No.3688816]

>>3688815
why are you trying to communicate with autistic people D:

[Anonymous No.3688817]

>>3688815
ok genius, you describe it

[Anonymous No.3688818]

>>3688817
I can't, that's why I was asking retard. At least I'm smart enough to know when I don't know something which is more than the people in this thread apparently.

[Anonymous No.3688820]

>>3688818
wow, talk about arrogant. you'll never find good friends like that. maybe someday your high horse will kick you in the arse. don't bother replying, you're getting ignored either way.

[Anonymous No.3688823]

NO DON'T START THIS AGAIN YOU SPERGS

[Anonymous No.3688846]

how can draw cute skiny girl

[Anonymous No.3688855]

I once saw a thread discussing the way the Japanese draw and how they think a little differently and that it makes their characters less stiff. It said something along the lines of them seeing like animators or something. Anyone have any references or information on this?

[Anonymous No.3688867]

>>3688820
>going on 4chan to make friends
just how pathetic are you

[Anonymous No.3689240]

>>3688712
You're not likely to find that facial expression (self-deprecating sarcastic sulk) in anime-style due to that facial expression being a product of Cultural Marxism, which anime mostly filters out.

[Anonymous No.3689402]

>>3688818
>>3688815
>calling people trying to help you autistic and retarded

[Anonymous No.3689592]

>>3682522
God bless you anon

[Anonymous No.3689664]

it's supposed to be asuka but the hair shape isn't helping so i'll fix it later.
There's a few things that still bother me so yeah, not even close to call it finished.
I just need more time man, college is beating up my ass... Critiques are much appreciated.

[Anonymous No.3689830]

>>3689664
her left arm looks like a cheap and badly-jointed prosthetic. The meeting point of her torso and shoulder with the upper arm is too distanced, add more of that "armpit muscle" there. I'm not sure if you're trying to push it as a style or not, but the left arm is also too straight, it looks like a log. The fact that half of it is covered in jacket doesn't help the silhouette either. I'd also try to fix the breasts, the right and left don't seem to be the same size. She doesn't look like Asuka mainly because of her face and headshape I'd say, it's too soft-looking. But I like its softness, looks gentle and kind, it complements the fluffy hair very well.

[Anonymous No.3689862]

how do you draw anime hair /ic/? any tips? books?

[Anonymous No.3689868]

>>3687611
just watch youtube videos of speedpaints of anime drawings done in photoshop/SAI/csp and you'll just learn to imitate gradually. japanese videos tend to be good also

[Anonymous No.3689874]

>>3689862
keep your strokes fast while taking in account the existence and not existence of the wind that causes movements as well as how it sits on the head. learn to draw an accurate bald head by looking at anatomy of the skulll and then do the hair on top of it so that it can take shape accurately, and of course over all learn perspective and keep copying references, the more you do it the better you get at it

[Anonymous No.3689893]

>>3689862
copy good drawing of animu hairs, not from animu because animation is expensive and they can't be bothered to draw good hair. copy from proper drawings, copy and keep copying until you get a hang [read: muscle memory] of how hair is drawn, when to put a hair and where, as well as their basic form, as in how it splits in the edges. basically just draw.

[Anonymous No.3689897]

>>3689874
>>3689893
Thanks for your replies. I know that i can't avoid the grinding, but at least I want to grind effectively. One more thing where do you get "good drawings" from artbooks?

[Anonymous No.3689899]

>>3689897
Worry about grinding "effectively" less and focus more on grinding "funly", enjoy the process of drawing, it won't feel like a burden. Artbooks rarely touch topics like the one you're having, since it's considered basic and something that people just feel out.My recommendation is to just browse Danbooru and find drawings that you like. Draw characters from your favorite show or something, it's much more easy to do and the resources are readily available.

[Anonymous No.3690019]

Refs inc

[Anonymous No.3690020]

[Anonymous No.3690024]

[Anonymous No.3690026]

[Anonymous No.3690435]

Make way for the supreme ref

[Anonymous No.3690609]

>>3685142
big agree anon! why cant we all just be nice???
sowwy my sketch doesnt look that good uwu

[Anonymous No.3690640]

>>3690435
sorry

[Anonymous No.3690669]

>>3690640
Wtf happened to yu

[Anonymous No.3690678]

>>3690669
n-nothing happened to me I just can't draw

[Anonymous No.3690686]

>>3690678
ur style is cute desu

[Anonymous No.3690691]

>>3689862
Try this video maybe

https://youtu.be/iuVGowpA_vs

[Anonymous No.3690696]

>watch speed drawing of guy drawing anime
>doesn't use construction or loomis or any of that stuff
>just draws exactly what he wants right off the bat
How do you do this? Boxes are fucking boring. Please don't use the "internalized" meme that's such a low effort reasoning.

[Anonymous No.3690719]

>>3690686
>style

[Anonymous No.3690722]

>>3689862
Dude... don't worry about hair. Work on your head. Those pictures look like they belong on the wall of a fat teenage furry girl from 2006. Worry about hair when you can draw a half decent head, which honestly shouldn't take long considering it's a circle with 2 wrapping lines and a small jaw. Anime does not look like what you drew.

[Anonymous No.3690724]

>>3690696
Mastery is all subconscious. Read The Act of Creation. The fact that you think professional artists have some secret besides thousands of hours of hard work proves how much of a regarded Dunning Kruger you are.
>boxes are boring
Then you’re a lazy fag who’ll never make it

[Anonymous No.3690725]

>>3690724
>The fact that you think professional artists have some secret
Where did I say that, retard? Show me.

[Anonymous No.3690726]

>>3690724
literally post your work

[Anonymous No.3690727]

>>3690725
>”How do you do this?”
>”oh by the way I don’t want to learn fundamentals”
Just because he no longer needs to visualize construction or perspective on paper doesn’t mean he isn’t tapping into it. Youre so dumb you can’t even answer your own idiotic questions.

[Anonymous No.3690729]

>>3690727
>show me where I said that
>can't
>fails miserably
>gets upset
rofl post your work you probably fucking suck ass

[Anonymous No.3690731]

>>3690726
>>3690729
WIP. Your turn, faggots

[Anonymous No.3690732]

>>3690731
rofl this thread was a mistake

[Anonymous No.3690737]

>>3690731
yikes

[Anonymous No.3690738]

>>3690731
ouch

[Anonymous No.3690741]

>>3690731
owie

[Anonymous No.3690750]

>>3690732
>>3690737
>>3690738
>>3690741
I love it how when someone posts their work you faggots immediately go on the defensive after your dick shrivels away from the shitposting and start mocking the guy who posted their work.

Not one of you weenies will ever post work during a debate, never ever.

[Anonymous No.3690756]

>>3690750
to be fair, he was being an asshole when he replied to >>3690724

and it turns out he sucks which is funny

[Anonymous No.3690757]

guys stop fighting

[Anonymous No.3690761]

>>3690756
>replied to*
meant replied with

[Anonymous No.3690763]

>>3690731
oof

[Anonymous No.3690765]

>>3690756
>sucks
lmao delusional. pyw coward

[Anonymous No.3690767]

>>3690756
He wasn't being an asshole he was telling the truth and quite frankly the faggot he replied to was being snide about not telling him to practice box forms. The irony here is the guy he saw drawing anime from out of the blue internalized the box forms to the point he can draw without conveying construction. It doesn't mean he didn't use construction, he has done it so many times to the point it becomes something mechanical.

[Anonymous No.3690769]

>>3690767
>defending "someone else" this hard

[Anonymous No.3690773]

>>3690769
Not an argument.

[Anonymous No.3690775]

>>3690773
I accept your concession.

[Anonymous No.3690777]

>>3690773
Against what? Your angry sputtering? Take a chill pill, incel.

[Anonymous No.3690780]

>>3690773
>upset nobody liked his shitty drawing
um nice "blaster gun" I guess lmao

[Anonymous No.3690786]

>>3690780
Still haven’t posted your work loser

[Anonymous No.3690793]

[Anonymous No.3690803]

>>3690775
>>3690777
>>3690780
The argument here was that there is no secret except for mileage from observational life drawing, in other words you study the fundamentals. The other Anon didn't want to hear it and so >>3690731 was kind enough to tell it the way it is which seems to have caused some level of butthurt on all of you.

I have reason to believe you faggots are upset because you fell for a trap and thought if you copied your chink cartoons long enough you would somehow be able to draw it from imagination without having to draw anything "boring" Continue this behavior for years and copy without putting thought or any problem solving and you get your typical dunning kruger with a bloated ego refusing to accept the facts which is grind the fundamentals.

Not even him, but you faggots have yet to post your work. I'm especially curious to see just what kind of faggot is behind this level of coping.

[Anonymous No.3690811]

Is this thread just calling each other chicken and daring to post work?

[Anonymous No.3690812]

>>3690803
>>3690769

[Anonymous No.3690814]

>>3690812
>>3690773

[Anonymous No.3690818]

How do draw like this

[Anonymous No.3690822]

>>3690818
With Loomis, but unironically.

[Anonymous No.3690831]

>>3690822
What book

[Anonymous No.3690838]

>>3690691
Thank you kind anon I'll watch it when I get home
>>3690722
> b-but is my style...
I know anon but I have the almighty Loomis for that and I'm already practicing, I hope I'll get better in a few weeks (months?)

[Anonymous No.3690940]

>>3690696
The construction is already formed in his mind

[Anonymous No.3690943]

>>3690731
Pretty gud anon. I like how petty the others are that they have to samefag their insecurity at you. No one even posted their work.

>>3690756
>m-mommy he was being mean to me!!
kek what a loser

[Anonymous No.3690971]

>>3690732
>>3690737
>>3690738
>>3690741
this fucking level of self defense hahahah holy shit

[Anonymous No.3691005]

When you construct a long face, do you still use circle or do you use oval shape?
BTW, anyone knows any Japanese artist who draw long faces (other than Raita)?

[vu No.3691127]

qt-chan. girl 'scout'

[Anonymous No.3691131]

>>3691127
This is nice. I hope you’ll fix her left eye, though.

[vu No.3691139]

>>3691131
how might I fix it? it's intended to be shut.

[Anonymous No.3691144]

>>3691139
Oh, I see. It reads as if the pupil is there but not filled in. I guess what confuses it is the gun sight

[Anonymous No.3691194]

[Anonymous No.3691197]

>>3691194
Now this is some good shit

[Anonymous No.3691220]

[Anonymous No.3691255]

I'm pretty new to art, but why would you fags want to even START with drawing anime anyway? Don't you want to capture things from life? When you see a woman with beautiful hair don't you want to capture it and share it with everyone? When you see your friend Josh come home after a long day of delivering pizzas, take a hit of his Vape and roll some weed so he can feel normal, don't you want to capture that essence and mood and share it with the world so they can understand it too?

[Anonymous No.3691283]

>>3691255
people just have different taste senpai

[Anonymous No.3691295]

>>3691255
Sure, capturing reality can be great, that's why I usually have some kind of camera on my person. I draw because I want to express the imaginary.

[Anonymous No.3691301]

>>3691295
>thinks photography is the same as life drawing
>thinks he can competently draw from imagination without having observed reality first
unironically ngmi

[Anonymous No.3691303]

>>3691301
I said neither of those things.

[Anonymous No.3691361]

>>3691255

The real world is boring and terrible and anime girls are hot.

Do I need more reasons?

[Anonymous No.3691367]

>>3691255
>take a hit of his Vape and roll some weed so he can feel normal
what a fag

[Anonymous No.3691728]

>>3691255
Probably the gayest shit I have ever read ever.

[Anonymous No.3691743]

>>3691301
>>thinks photography is the same as life drawing
>>thinks he can competently draw from imagination without having observed reality first

I would never imagine them to be the same since photos always capture reality while drawings of reality are mostly a percent exaggerated. Its boring anon and nobody wants to draw your drugged out friends for the 100 time. I want to draw storys in my head like demons and other stuff.

[Anonymous No.3691753]

Abandoned the study halfway because I couldn't figure out the hues/values. The drawing has a lot of problems too.
If I can't copy something like this than I don't even have a shot at drawing something like this out of my head.
Crying now.

[Anonymous No.3691780]

>>3691743
I’m not the faggy drawing my high friends guy, but
>no one wants to draw your drugged out friends, it’s boring
>now if you’ll excuse me, I’m gonna draw demons!
lol

[Anonymous No.3691788]

>>3691780
Not that anon but do you seriously think a drugged out pizza delivery guy makes as interesting subject matter as a demon? I mean whatever gets your creative juices flowing I guess, I just don't think most people find the two comparable.

[Anonymous No.3691796]

>>3691255
>uses an anime reaction image instead of a real person even though anime can't capture the essence of his mood

[Anonymous No.3691818]

>>3691796
Pretty sure >>3691255 is trolling. The way he jumps from "woman with beautiful hair" to "mentally ill stoner" reeks with sarcasm.

[Anonymous No.3691888]

Quick explanation for why drawing from life will make you shit at art:
Going back and forth between studying great artists and then drawing from imagination is like having a great teacher over your shoulder saying "No, faggot, that's not how you paint! You paint like this!" Whereas drawing from life will quickly make you start Krugging real fast and end up like the Napolean Dynamite kid when he did the drawing in the movie.

[Anonymous No.3691905]

>>3691788
They’re both equally trite and banal. People have literally been drawing demons since the beginning of time. The fact that you think it’s some interesting and original idea is as hilarious as the burnout thinking people want to see another burnout in paint form.

[Anonymous No.3691907]

>>3691888
Holy shit. You’re actually a retard. Thanks for the laugh though, anon.

[Anonymous No.3691921]

>>3691905
Yet when people are asked if they wanna see realistic stuff or some fantasy its always the latter because demons can always have different designs and show the creativity of the person to make art from something you said: "People have literally been drawing demons since the beginning of time". drawing realistic real-world stuff is boring and static. nothing ever changes and when it does people will oversaturate the world with it till it's not original anymore.

[Anonymous No.3691924]

>>3691907
Excellent counterargument.
What's your logic for why Westerners are garbage at art?

[Anonymous No.3691939]

>>3691924
>Ancient Greece
>Ancient Rome
>Renaissance Italy
>France
>Netherlands
>Various schools of art throughout American history
Westerners arent garbage at art. We all know it. The problem is that you have shit taste and legitimately think cartoons are on the same level as fine art. Can’t help tastelets.

[Anonymous No.3691944]

>>3691939
Not a single artist to come out of any of those places at any given point in history can even hold a candle to say, Yutaka Nakamura or Naotoshi Shida's work in recent years or the best artists at Kyoto Animation. The skill gap is just too high.

[Anonymous No.3691947]

>>3691905
I didn't say it was an original idea, just that it's more interesting than a life drawing of some hippie.

[Anonymous No.3691984]

>>3691939

>Fine art

My sides.

[Anonymous No.3691988]

>>3691924
>Excellent counterargument.
Why do faggots like you say shit like this? You know damn well there's nothing he could possibly say that will change your mind.

[Anonymous No.3691990]

>>3691988
You could show me a Western artist who can match the likes of Japan's top animators. Maybe Disney's Nine Old Men, other than that, good luck.

[Anonymous No.3691992]

>>3691990
Animation isn’t even art you faggot, it’s craft. The only “artists” working in television are the writers.

[Anonymous No.3691995]

>>3691992

This is some high level denial.

[Anonymous No.3692001]

>>3691990
Why are you replying to me? I have no interest in your argument, just pointing out the fact that you're baiting people into "proving you wrong" when there is literally nothing anyone can say, fact or fiction, that will change your mind. So you're just arguing for the sake of arguing. This place is enough of a shithole without people trying to shit it up with hostility

[Anonymous No.3692002]

>>3691984
>literal children’s cartoons
Grow up anon

[Anonymous No.3692011]

>>3692002

It must suck having to be informed by academia what the "correct" kind of art to like is.

[Anonymous No.3692014]

>>3691944

[Anonymous No.3692207]

>>3691888
You really don't know what you're talking about

[Anonymous No.3692211]

So many krugers and idiots in this thread holy shit. If you're going to prove something about muh anime vs muh ugly real life at least post your mediocre work to back it up.

[Anonymous No.3692213]

>>3692211
You’re right. Anime threads do consistently have the highest percentage of DKs on the board. Of course, we’re talking about a lonely, pathetic demographic of virgins who’re looking to escape reality instead of recognizing the beauty it contains. Ngmi

[Anonymous No.3692217]

>>3692213
Yikes

[Anonymous No.3692222]

>>3692213
The hell's a dk, donkey kong??

[Anonymous No.3692229]

>>3692211
I'm glad they're all contained here and the joke discord server so I don't mind

[Anonymous No.3692545]

>>3691753
I know this feel

[Anonymous No.3692564]

>>3691753
Use more pink and less orange.

[Anonymous No.3693380]

Has anyone tried using bjd dolls to practice painting? I heard they're good for reference material

[Anonymous No.3693471]

>>3693380
Yeah, I've done a little of that myself. Also figures. Well-made ones can definitely be insightful as to getting a handle on rendering cartoon/anime characters, but I find that they work best when having a certain drawing/painting style in mind when studying them.

[Anonymous No.3694033]

>>3691753
You could try following artists work flow/process by watching a speed paints or something. I think that helped me. But you would have to scrounge around for good videos lol. Unless another art process webm happens again but I doubt in it

[Anonymous No.3694137]

Question. Are the Asians just better at anime style because of their practice in calligraphy?
I was doing my practice for pen strokes and noticed that my strokes just weren't the same.

[Anonymous No.3694143]

>>3694137
There are the 4 straight strokes and then 4 “s” shapes for each one of those and then your circles? This is all forms,..

[Anonymous No.3694184]

>>3694137
no anon, it's just the anime culture we grew up so we're expose early to this kind of things

[Anonymous No.3694237]

>>3693380
Too expensive.

[Anonymous No.3694246]

studying takamichi, this one is based off comic lo 2008-11

[Anonymous No.3694256]

>>3694246
Doesn't look like that's what you're doing at all

[Anonymous No.3694262]

>>3694246
Post the original, anon

[Anonymous No.3694268]

>>3694256
I'm taking some liberties. It's a first try so I'm hoping I'll get better as I go.

>>3694262
here's the original, didn't go for an exact copy

[Anonymous No.3694277]

>>3694246
>>3694268
What exactly were you studying here? Those two pieces have different composition, value, color and style -- the girl is posed differently and there is no dog. A young girl on the beach with wind blowing her hair? This is just you being inspired to create a piece with similar content in your own style.

[Anonymous No.3694287]

>>3691127
Looks neat, anon. The gun is having a tangent with the eyebrow though. Took me 10-15 seconds to understand that it was a gun.

[Anonymous No.3694374]

>>3694277
You're right, I guess it's not really a study, afterall. Maybe I should've posted it in another thread, sorry.

[Anonymous No.3694384]

>>3694374
nta but it's alright no worries

[Anonymous No.3694542]

>>3684665
>>3684877
art nouveau inspired you should say

[Anonymous No.3694961]

>>3694137
no it's just the language barrier and laziness most people can't read Japanese tutorials can't find Japanese streamers won't study their process won't figure out through trial and error what brush settings to use
they want loomis to teach them how to digitally draw anime and manga or something

[Anonymous No.3695385]

Here's a mega of some of my favorite artist's/artist's entire gallery (you may need to resort from oldest to newest):
https://mega.nz/#F!3epnnYbY!gi1m_X9RVIWDFGfnE_XSPA

It also includes headshots of different girls from Deresute and other works.

I tried to avoid as much nsfw as I can but it seems impossible considering almost every pixiv artist draws porn, lol. browse with caution. I'm also still uploading more.

[Anonymous No.3695405]

need critique

[Anonymous No.3695498]

>>369538
Why do normies love soft cell shading so much

[Anonymous No.3695529]

>>3695405
Experiment with smaller nose shapes. Observe how other anime artists draw it. Right now it looks p western

[Anonymous No.3695586]

How to fix arms? anything to fix before color?

[Anonymous No.3695604]

>>3690020

[Anonymous No.3695822]

>>3695586
Her overall pose is really awkward imo. Try doing the same pose and see which how you can make it look more natural and relaxed

[Anonymous No.3696343]

>>3688855
no because all the amateurs draw stiff too. good artists draw dynamic gestures west or east. the bigger understanding has more to do with shapes and copying previous works. there's a lot more emphasis on distortion of perspective. if you look at something even like draw comics the marvel way you can see this style built upon with perspective and volue. a lot of japanese stuff actually tends to be quite stiff from tracing to learn or broken anatomy but good expression. you can lamd in the middle but you need to know volume, perspective, and shape design.

tldr draw more and make connections on your own from the media you consume. overthink it, underthink of how much thought went in to a drawing. other people can't make the most powerful connections in your mind for you. you make those from relating different aspects of life.

[Anonymous No.3696357]

>>3691753
This is literally what Bargue and still lifes are for. Work on seeing real life colors first. You only see them symbolically now. Hornung's Color Book and Gurney Color and Light are decent places to start. Even Ctrl Paint color studies.

Start with a much simpler image and turn it greyscale. Then you only have to learn about value.

[Anonymous No.3696640]

>>3696357
Thanks for the advice. I actually used those resources and exercises quite a bit in the past but haven't painted in a while, so this was one of my first ventures back into it in a while.
I have, however, found little value in studying from life when trying to improve at anime-style (except in the very beginning when you absolutely suck at art), since studying life tends to make you improve much more at painting life-specifically than painting anime. The artists with refined styles tend to have a specific set of patterns (treatment of materials, contours, hues, etc.) and ways of doing things that are very strict in comparison to artists who try to capture life, and I typically find my time better off studying those patterns specifically.
Since that crappy study attempt, things have actually been going much better now. Maybe I'll post something soon.

[Anonymous No.3697330]

>>3695604

[Anonymous No.3698273]

>>3697330

[Anonymous No.3698356]

>>3685834
It's from a manga titled "Vagabond"

[Anonymous No.3699407]

there was a thread where you were supposed to draw this actress in "anime style", but i cant find it

so im dumping my sketch here

[Anonymous No.3699552]

I tried to do this one today. I dunno. It probably just looks goofy.

[Anonymous No.3699556]

>>3699552
So you aspire to be a xerox machine that replaces eyes with anime eyes?

[Anonymous No.3699559]

>>3699552
i like it got a blog?

[Anonymous No.3701525]

>>3699407
That looks pretty sick, well done capturing the angle of the face and translating things like the sheen of the hair over very well. I don't know how "anime" this is meant to be, since you usually don't make the nose and lips as pronounced as this, but it's a very nice sketch nonetheless.

>>3699552
I like that you captured the shading well, and some parts like the legs and feet even look better to me. But I think you got the size and angle of the torso long, it's clearly longer in your painting, so you also ended up elongating the right arm to make the hand match up where it belongs in the photo, which makes your arm look stretched and alien-like. The left shoulder shape is also a little funky.

Lastly, I think you ended up flattening the face a bit, maybe the head is even smaller than it's supposed to be? The nose is smaller, which is fine, but it also lost some of the depth it gave to the face. The lips seem less pronounced, and so does the round shading on the cheeks. At first I thought there was something wrong with the eyes, but as it turns out, I think they're the most okay thing in your painting.

This is just based on observation so it could be wrong, and if you painted it by sight, it's a very commendable effort, but I'm sure you can improve upon it.

[Anonymous No.3701856]

suprisingly, the eyes are the most difficult to get right

[Anonymous No.3702071]

>>3701856
It's not a perfect copy, though in some ways, but not others, I prefer my rendition. I think the original looks cuter (softer?), but mine looks more refined

[Anonymous No.3702089]

>>3701856
It's not a perfect copy, though in some ways, but not others, I prefer my rendition. I think the original looks cuter (softer?), but mine looks more refined. Next time I might use a softer brush for inking

[Anonymous No.3702560]

>>3702089
>>3701856
good job anon
now apply the stuff you learned from this piece by doing something from imagination

[Anonymous No.3703457]

>uploads all of their drawings on twitter
>1 follower
how do you get followers lads?

[Anonymous No.3703458]

>>3702089
i want to eat your art is that bad

[Anonymous No.3703460]

>>3703457
By having a hole in between your legs.

[Anonymous No.3703462]

>>3699552
why don't you try to make her skin more shiny? also, at least make the background blue

[Anonymous No.3703466]

>>3703460
well i can tell you that that is wrong

[Anonymous No.3703484]

>>3703466
Correction: Two holes.

[Anonymous No.3703486]

>>3703484
Both men and women have two holes down there. Please leave, unskilled incel.

[Anonymous No.3703497]

>>3703486
If you're counting the urethra women have 3 holes, so maybe you should think twice before calling someone else an incel.

[Anonymous No.3703526]

>>3703497
>t. Googled female anatomy to prove a random anon wrong
Go back to your anime, incel

[Anonymous No.3703540]

>>3703526
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaLYPJtYLXQ

[Anonymous No.3703571]

lots of lens distortion in these refs

[Anonymous No.3703672]

>>3703571
Perspective great, anatomy wrong

[Anonymous No.3703675]

>>3699407
This is evidence that anime is only made for drawing cute Asian girls and not western thots

[Anonymous No.3703677]

>>3695586
Maybe make them longer.

[Anonymous No.3703683]

>>3695586
Probably late to the party but I suggest you study arm bones as well as how to they attach to the hand bones. Her ears are not supposed to be sticking to her head but a little further away. Her left arm is going too further to the back

[Anonymous No.3703687]

>>3695405
Get a tablet and stop drawing in ms paint

[Anonymous No.3703898]

>>3703457
Unironically git gud, have an appealing style and engage with people online. Only autists will blame it on females

[Anonymous No.3703899]

>>3703571
Looks good anon

[Anonymous No.3704030]

>>3685966
>>3685967
>I'm a prescriptivist
>I'm a descriptivist
>Now let's argue what the definition it's supposed to be! (actually trying to impose their approaches towards words on each other)
Your argument is flawed. Prescriptivism and descriptivism are subjective preferences. One is talking what's technically correct and the other is talking on a contextual basis.

[Anonymous No.3704146]

>>3701525
Tried playing a bit more with proportions today; shoulders a bit more mound-like, breasts a lot bigger.

Every brush that's not the pixel art/binary brush feels like ass. My lines are all over the place so it's not like it'd make a huge difference, but the binary brush has no softness and it feels great to cut a line across in the canvas. The other brushes just look so soft all the time and using them doesn't inspire any confidence in me.

>>3702089
I like it. If you told me yours was the original, I'd have to believe you.

[Anonymous No.3704176]

>>3703687
i used a tablet for the sketch and inked with a mouse
why would i drop mspaint

[Anonymous No.3704187]

>>3704176
Because its shit. Unless you want to make pixel art. Even if you want to make pixel art that are better alternatives. Get SAI since it's free

[Anonymous No.3705162]

>>3704146
Try a smaller brush anon.

[Anonymous No.3705181]

>>3691753
This is funny bc I would kill to be this good. I know that you are attentionposting though.

[Anonymous No.3705189]

>>3704146
These shoulders are too broad and look manly but those honkers are making me bonkers

[Anonymous No.3705190]

>>3705181
His is the bottom one anon

[Anonymous No.3705556]

How do I achieve this level of drawing?

[Anonymous No.3705557]

>>3705556

[Anonymous No.3705558]

>>3705557

[Anonymous No.3705561]

>>3705558

[Anonymous No.3705564]

>>3705561

[Anonymous No.3705590]

>>3705556
Unironically fundies

[Anonymous No.3705595]

>>3705564
Loomis (unironically) + Values studies + Anime studies.

[Anonymous No.3705690]

>>3705561
Oh nice desu.

[Anonymous No.3705739]

[Anonymous No.3706751]

>>3690731
>anime

[Anonymous No.3706757]

>>3695586
>I wonder who could be behind this post?

[Anonymous No.3706762]

What do you guys think of clip studio paint?

[Anonymous No.3706766]

>>3706762
pretty nice program

[Anonymous No.3706822]

anyone do eye studies specifically? Any recommendations?

[Anonymous No.3708320]

>>3706762
Still looking for a crack to this day.

[Anonymous No.3708351]

>just realized my profile faces have been looking wrong the past few days because i've been giving them subtle nose bridges sometimes
time to crank up the race realism in my yoshinari copies

>>3706822
that's actually too vague. i do a lot because i'm trying to nail faces. what i want to do is more semi realism like jim lee style eyes. still symbolic but much more feeling the form. i might try to make a webm, there are some good tutorials from the alvin lee comics course that help to think like this. it still applies to regular anime eyes but i never wanted to completely bite anime eyes. copy what you like and take the parts you enjoy the most. you can still learn from the parfs you don't like. it helps to know the anatomy of the eyes though. like atlus' catherine and persona game eyes make heavy use of the tear duct which i also like in my own drawings. it's obvious someone like shigenori knows his realism.

[Anonymous No.3708815]

>>3705561
>ポーズ模写
just use a reference like they do

[Anonymous No.3708874]

Any of these tutorials actually focused on drawing anime(not just drawing generally) but not in japanese? How am I supposed to understand it...

[Anonymous No.3708893]

>>3708874

[Anonymous No.3708904]

>>3708320
its easier to get crack to manga studio, if you don't mind it being a bit older go for it

[Anonymous No.3709031]

Will doing this a lot actually teach me how to draw anime? or I will become a photocopying machine?

> first attempt shit
> second attempt shit
> third attempt only fine but only after a paintover

I feel I am just copying shit here.

[Anonymous No.3709043]

>>3709031
try rotating the head. if you can't you're just copying symbols.

[Anonymous No.3709045]

>>3709043
you mean copy the reference while mirroing my drawing and not the reference?

[Anonymous No.3709068]

>>3709045
Nah man i think anon means 'draw the head in a diff angle' like sideview, 3/4 looking down, looking up, etc

[Anonymous No.3709091]

>>3709068
welp, this is gonna be hard as fuck

will post progress later

[Anonymous No.3709448]

>>3703898
>Unironically git gud, have an appealing style
This is the only part that matters. They will come to you if you're good enough.

[Anonymous No.3709467]

>>3703457
I had a small following on Tumblr, posted there that I am getting the fuck out and some of them came with me it seems

also draw good fanart, piles of it, and post all on the same post, easy receipt for 1k notes on tumblr.

[Anonymous No.3709528]

>>3709031
treat it like a bargue plate at first. overlay your image to see the mistakes you've made. at a point you have to be able to see your own mistakes and correct them without asking for others to help. others will be able to help you see things you missed, not saying don't show. it takes a ton of practice that no one really wants to show to get proficient at anything, drawing especially. most japanese artists got good by copying every drawing they liked.

you might want to find settei or production notes, and try learning to draw the face or head in different angles as another said so you can understand what the important symbols or parts of the character design are her that make it a "kat" drawing.

[Anonymous No.3709533]

>>3708874
Use context clues like the rest of us

[Anonymous No.3709578]

>>3709528
> most japanese artists got good by copying every drawing they liked.

that´s exactly what I was thinking aboutwhen I made the post, If I had to do a heavy routine of learning structure and proportions of the "general" anime design or if it´s valid to simply copy what I like the best I can.

I always attempted to "wing" anime trying to do proportions and shit, but only recently I started to literally copy drawings I like, I feel I will learn better this way.

there is indeed a heavily simbolic component and design on the style that going only after structure won't teach me I guess.

[Anonymous No.3709641]

>>3709578
I'm not saying don't do structure. You do need to know structure and can't get by just copying. It's not hard to learn a basic mannequin to start with. But faces rely on structure and knowing when the realistic head orientation would be unappealing so shapes and showing more of the more distant or occluded eye become more important. Almost all the successful drawings you see are based on a heavy structure you probably can't see. Remember you're seeing the final inks usually and not the several iterations of pencil drawings before.

[Anonymous No.3709758]

How do I get to the point where I can move on from my box hell and into drawing cute anime girls? Is there a reference? Like, 1 year of boxes or something.

[Anonymous No.3710119]

>>3709758
Just draw/trace cute anime girls every second day. Construction is helpful but never lose sight of the cute girls.

[Anonymous No.3710136]

>>3709758
Just start drawing what you like anon. You'll only know how to draw boxes and only boxes if you keep drawing those

[Anonymous No.3710593]

when do i get to draw anime

[Anonymous No.3710961]

New thread

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