FIrez made it. Our third world boy actually made it.

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Anonymous Sat Nov 3 13:15:49 2018 No.3664979 [Reply] [Original]

FIrez made it. Our third world boy actually made it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 13:16:42 2018 No.3664982 >>3664979 Made what? More disgusting "art"?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 13:17:26 2018 No.3664984 Made it in what? Being a creepy pervert with amputation fetish?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 13:17:33 2018 No.3664986 >>3664979 Wow he took my advice

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 13:18:48 2018 No.3664988 >>3664982 >>3664984 snib snab

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 13:19:31 2018 No.3664989 >>3664979 I think firez is pretty good and generally like his style, but what the hell are those completely overdone veins in her boobs? It looks like they are about to burst

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 13:24:18 2018 No.3664994 >>3664979 >cowtit what a pleb. i hope better from him

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 13:26:20 2018 No.3664996 >>3664982 >>3664982 >>3664984 Why do so many people hate firez so much? It seems the better an artist on /ic/ gets the more critical the users are to the artist.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 13:27:49 2018 No.3664999 >>3664979 yeeeew! he worked hard enough for it, he deserves it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 13:28:58 2018 No.3665001 >>3664996 ic is 100% composed of beginner scrubs, so of course they'll try to bring down anyone who isn't complete trash

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 13:31:07 2018 No.3665005 >>3665001 >100% That includes you, buddy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 13:31:45 2018 No.3665006 >>3665005 didn't say I wasn't, crab

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 13:41:25 2018 No.3665021 >>3665001 ngmi if you can't survive the crab bucket

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 13:43:07 2018 No.3665025 >>3664989 sometimes when a woman's boobs are too big there will be blue veins. Now not every woman will have this and the same thing for inverted nipples.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 13:46:12 2018 No.3665029 File: 762 KB, 1000x1000, 1445651734642.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] He's actually doing it, genuinely happy for him.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 13:48:06 2018 No.3665033 >>3665025 Of course I know that veins can be visible in that case(I studied quite a few big natural breasts in my teens), but this is too overdone.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 13:48:19 2018 No.3665034 >>3664996 lol i was here when firez first posted people always shit on his drawings and he just kept getting better, and people shat on him harder but he got better still

Anonymous Sat Nov 3 13:55:42 2018 No.3665043

I like his rendering a whole lot, but what the heck is anatomically going on in OP's post? She's standing, but she's weirdly tugging her underwear down...but her tits look weird. Is her torso leaning slightly forward or not? It's like he drew this to be sexy first and anatomically sound second.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 13:56:42 2018 No.3665048 >>3664996 I didn’t deny he got better. I too was here from when he first started posting. But he’s totally degenerate and gross as fuck. Idc how good you are. If you’re sick, you’re sick.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 13:57:20 2018 No.3665049 >>3665043 >sexy first and anatomically sound second as god intended

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 13:58:23 2018 No.3665051 >>3665048 You're wrong

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 13:59:25 2018 No.3665054 >>3664994 You'll find that most folks aren't pedos like you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 14:00:43 2018 No.3665057 It's rich that some of these crabs are judging him for drawing 'disgusting' art when we have at least two Shadman dick sucking threads here a week.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 14:02:42 2018 No.3665059 >>3665043 >>3665049 Let's be honest, we tend to glorify and basicly fap to the idea of great anatomy, but in the end for a piece like this, anatomy isn't the most important thing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 14:04:42 2018 No.3665060 >>3664979 that is not how perspective works, rendering is the same as usual(bad) its just that this time he did't draw her skin dead looking.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 14:06:23 2018 No.3665062 >>3665060 redline it fag

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 14:06:33 2018 No.3665063 >>3664979 Made what? Leaving thick traced lines behind? but nvm I don't know him, maybe he's a good boi

Anonymous Sat Nov 3 14:08:48 2018 No.3665066

>>3665059
But it's really weird though. Like, she looks terrified but she's ripping off her panties. Are they possessed? Are her panties a ghost she's spooked of and needs to get off? Why do her panties look like they'd fit all the way up to her navel? Why are her boob veins fluorescent blue? Why is one of her stockings literally just a swipe of lace brush across her thigh and not a thing else?She's worked up enough to sweat, but her skin isn't flushed at all and she's not sweating anywhere else besides that generic anime sheen on her skin. And her hand looks...not great.

Actually, the more I stare at this the less nice the rendering looks. This is really messy outside of the face and tits.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 14:11:24 2018 No.3665068 >>3665066 >this level of nitpicking Are you in love with firez?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 14:13:42 2018 No.3665073 >>3665068 thats not nitpicking you firez cocksucker

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 14:13:42 2018 No.3665074 >>3665066 the only fair point is how her terrified expression and the panty ripping make no sense i dont understand what the pic is trying to convey

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 14:16:21 2018 No.3665076 >>3665068 Really. Not those scribbly ass hands? The pic is trying to convey the message of 'fap to this and use the post-orgasm bliss to convince yourself to donate to my Patreon'

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 14:26:12 2018 No.3665081 >>3664996 Because retards feel superior when they complain about someone else not being "good enough". Is just a very common coping mechanism.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 14:28:02 2018 No.3665082 >>3665048 >But he’s totally degenerate and gross as fuck. Idc how good you are. If you’re sick, you’re sick. Asking because I genuinely don't know: Why and how?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 14:29:08 2018 No.3665086 >>3665066 >>3665074 maybe she's just very horny? there's a bit of that there, too

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 14:31:05 2018 No.3665087 >>3665066 this is the autismal overthinking content i come here for.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 14:36:33 2018 No.3665092 >>3664979 >implying that torso isnt referenced. any monkey can draw from reference, actually creating something is making it

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 14:36:34 2018 No.3665093 >>3665086 That's what I got from it as well.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 14:41:55 2018 No.3665098 >>3664979 Feels good I'll be 10000 times better than Friez when I reach his age.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 14:42:36 2018 No.3665102 >>3665054 firez was one of us, tho: 90% his early stuff are cute little girls

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 14:53:31 2018 No.3665111 >>3665098 Feel bad that I am still worse than Frez even tough I am older than him ;.;

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 14:56:32 2018 No.3665113 >>3665098 i used to think i was too old at 26 but it feels good to see people in their mid-30s still trying

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 15:11:09 2018 No.3665125 >>3665098 how old was Firez?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 15:33:26 2018 No.3665143 >>3664979 >Making it >23 bucks per month wut >>3665125 28 when started, 33 now

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 17:30:10 2018 No.3665239 >>3664979 >FIrez made it. Our third world boy actually made it. https://www.patreon.com/firez >2 patrons >$23 >MADE IT kek

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 17:36:11 2018 No.3665241 >>3665239 Judging by his pages It launched yesterday so give him some time

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 17:38:51 2018 No.3665242 >>3665241 What does this have to do with OP's retarded baiting? I wish all the good to Firez and any other aspiring artist, but saying somebody made ti just because they opened a Patreon is simply retarded.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 17:39:42 2018 No.3665243 >>3665239 >>3665242 >Everything is about money Kill yourself, miserable pile of materialist shit.

Anonymous Sat Nov 3 18:08:12 2018 No.3665271

>>3665243
firez imho is pretty legit (money is definitely not his focus) he got laid off some months ago from his work as an IT guy so he made the patreon to be able to keep doing art full time.

Considering his age and circumstances this might be his last chance to do so

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 18:12:00 2018 No.3665275 he still can't into construction and perspective

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 18:29:05 2018 No.3665286 >>3665066 This is what I mean when I call him a creep and a pervert. But the typical incel on /ic/ thinks stuff like this is great

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 18:34:30 2018 No.3665288 >>3665286 lurk more

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 18:39:27 2018 No.3665294 >>3665271 >Considering his age and circumstances this might be his last chance to do so his last chance to do so was 5 years ago, he's just not letting the dream die at this point. dream's on god damn life support.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 18:41:26 2018 No.3665298 >>3665294 He started drawing 5 years ago.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 18:46:27 2018 No.3665304 >>3665243 Ok, then tell me in what other way Firez made it? I thought OP was talking about his Patreon. Nothing else about his status or art has changed other than that. So? Also, you are adorable, little kid.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 18:55:20 2018 No.3665307 >>3664979 wow this artist is miles better than Kyle. Glad he’s going somewhere in life and actually making appealing artwork with faces that don’t make you barf.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 19:21:39 2018 No.3665327 >>3664979 so, is there some secret indicator he's working as a concept artist or illustrator that a /beg/ like me can't pick up on? can you tell such a thing solely from the art?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 19:23:04 2018 No.3665329 >>3665307 >appealing that is anything but appealing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 19:24:06 2018 No.3665330 >>3665327 any brainlet/beg/ can get a job in the industry...

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 19:39:57 2018 No.3665347 >>3665307 Does anyone have a link to Kyle's work?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 19:41:43 2018 No.3665352 >>3665239 The Patreon went up recently. I think it's too early to judge.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 19:42:25 2018 No.3665353 >>3665239 I think he should replace that sketch in his tip jar tiers, it looks kind of flat and i know he can do better than that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 19:52:03 2018 No.3665357 >>3665352 You think it's too early to judge, but you don't think it's too early for a thread like this? Okay.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 19:52:06 2018 No.3665358 >>3665074 Shes takin off her panties because she wants to fuck but then she gets scared because she sees my dick

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 19:53:51 2018 No.3665359 >>3664979 Waaaait, now I get what you mean OP. Firez made a Patreon page. He made... it... Okay, I get it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 19:57:16 2018 No.3665363 >>3665358 doesnt explain the ripped panties

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 19:58:43 2018 No.3665366 >>3665357 I have no idea what you're talking about. I think you have the wrong anon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 20:00:49 2018 No.3665367 >>3665363 She wants to fuck really bad and cant wait long enough to take them off normally

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 20:02:37 2018 No.3665369 >>3665034 Ah so he's /ic/'s worst nightmare then

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 20:03:16 2018 No.3665370 >>3665327 Making it isnt having a job, the people that made steven universe have jobs. Making it is being able to draw realistic anime porn.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 20:03:38 2018 No.3665371 >>3665367 contradicts your original post

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 20:04:48 2018 No.3665372 >>3665371 No it doesnt fag.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 20:07:27 2018 No.3665377 >>3665366 So dense, ugh. OP is claiming that Firez made it. You will probably agree that it's too early to say that, correct? Then why are you saying it's too early to be skeptical about it? Now let's drop this stupid subject, shall we?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 22:35:40 2018 No.3665482 >>3665370 i like your definition much better than the real one

Anonymous Sat Nov 3 23:37:21 2018 No.3665523
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>>3665239
>https://www.patreon.com/firez
awww yiss finna support my boy Firez and subscribe to give $10 a month, it may not be much but at least it's one grain of sand that'll be part of the bigger whole.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 3 23:51:34 2018 No.3665533 I'm happy for him he worked hard

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 01:08:15 2018 No.3665579 >>3664979 >FIrez made it All these anons saying that he didn’t make it. That definitely looks like something Firez would have made. Who else would make something that looks like that.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 01:22:11 2018 No.3665592 >>3665239 USD $23 per month is enough to support a family of 5 in the third world, tho

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 01:24:00 2018 No.3665596 File: 3 KB, 117x146, sf.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3665523 i was doubtful before, but now im sure. firez is a shameless samefag

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 01:27:44 2018 No.3665600 File: 916 KB, 1200x675, DJ1lbbmVAAAakUH.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3664979 why is she wearing xxxl panties god the way you render skin is lifeless if youre gonna add veins, know what youre doing. your character looks ill

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 01:42:54 2018 No.3665609 >>3665596 I have to create a Patreon account, check again tomorrow faggot.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 01:57:48 2018 No.3665663 >>3664979 his render def improved but the stuff he draws is still meh to me Why does she look terrified while ripping of her panties?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 02:05:25 2018 No.3665668 >>3665600 >>god the way you render skin is lifeless >posts even more lifeless skin

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 02:08:45 2018 No.3665670 File: 157 KB, 640x954, BB065A4A-1E1E-4481-BC8E-0BEDFC4EEBE7.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] He should keep doing more brown girls

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 02:53:43 2018 No.3665696 >>3665670 His art is so much better as thumbnails.

Anonymous Sun Nov 4 04:54:31 2018 No.3665757
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>>3664979
I like a lot of firez's art, but man this one is weak. The pose is real awkward looking and the expression/over all appeal got weaker over time as he got farther into it imo. The expression looks fine in this earlier version but the final one makes her looks real unnatural. .

>>3664996
Ic has 4 castes.

Clueless beginners grinding loomis heads.

Decent intermediates who post the pretty good work in threads like /alt/, the draw thread, ect. The type of people who get asked "Blog?" a lot but aren't quite good enough and/or active enough to be known across the board.

The artists who get good enough to make a name for themselves like Kyle, Krekkov, Firez, ect.

And the salty crabs who can't escape loomis hell yet still pretend to be artists.

These crabs fucking hate the members of the 3ed caste with a burning passion for accomplishing what they can't seem to even get into reach of. They feel stuck and unable to progress, and many will develop weird obsessions with specific competent artists - like that one weirdo who spams threads about what's her name.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 05:01:10 2018 No.3665760 so many crabs here lmao this is pathetic.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 05:27:26 2018 No.3665781 >>3665757 Then why aren’t people like vetyr made fun of? I see them post time from time and they don’t even g the called out ever

Anonymous Sun Nov 4 05:58:35 2018 No.3665795

>>3665760

Honestly, these boards aren't good for anyone if you're looking for discussion.

Crabs are like clockwork. The only thing here are crabs.

It's sad. No one here can be happy for one another or complimentary without it being backhanded.

If they stopped being so angry and selfish with their positivity, they'd actually be able to post their own art without fear of being strung up. No one here posts content compared to the amount of people who post nonsense.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 06:27:34 2018 No.3665815 >>3665795 Everyone posts their stuff on discord. I think I can speak for everyone that /ic/ is everyones dumphole.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 06:46:58 2018 No.3665829 >>3665815 Yea pretty much everyone who's risen past month two tier finds a good discord group or two. I only post on ic for "Blog?" (you)s when I need a dick stoking.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 06:57:03 2018 No.3665831 File: 17 KB, 400x400, mercwip.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3664979 He'll never be as good as pic related

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 07:28:21 2018 No.3665841 >>3664979 Is this this the dude who used to just post anime girls destroying buildings the whole time?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 07:29:00 2018 No.3665842 >>3665523 I'm glad for him. Keep us posted for when he'll really make it (2k+).

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 07:29:32 2018 No.3665843 >>3665831 mr robot was a hacker not an artist from what I remember

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 07:30:02 2018 No.3665844 >>3665592 >living in the 3rd world >making it Pick one.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 07:59:56 2018 No.3665857 >A thread with people calling FIrez trash >NOT ONE PERSON POSTS THEIR OWN ART You guys are so jelly its pathetic. FIrez is better than you, just deal with it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 08:16:32 2018 No.3665868 >>3664979 boobs look like pecs. also the whole drawing sucks. the colours suck. embarrassing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 08:19:37 2018 No.3665871 >>3665868 post your patreon

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 08:19:38 2018 No.3665872 >>3665868 pyw vermin

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 08:34:55 2018 No.3665884 File: 99 KB, 593x800, 5CDA4C77-00F7-4153-84AB-735427ABC45B.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3665086 Only a rapist would translate that expression as horny.

Anonymous Sun Nov 4 08:48:41 2018 No.3665896

>>3665066
>>3665074
it's just a generic anime trope, the embarassed/crying girl
a ton of hentais do it, it doesn't the artists are literally obsessed with rape
it's meaningless, because it's just a trope being copypasted. it's just that it being applied to more western-looking art looks weird because we're not used to it

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 09:00:30 2018 No.3665905 >>3665896 It's really not conveyed well tho. That's the main issue, not the fact it's a western style.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 09:01:32 2018 No.3665906 >>3665896 >>3665905 Firez always had a problem with conveying proper emotions. That's a fact.

Anonymous Sun Nov 4 09:08:18 2018 No.3665912

>>3664989
>>3665025
That's what pale skin + tits actually look like, ffs, visible blue veins because they're a lot darker than the skin they're beneath. Nothing to do with size, have you two never seen white tits before?

You have to focus on them to notice them, it is totally beyond me how anyone thinks this is "overdone." If anything, the color is oddly too light.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 09:17:11 2018 No.3665916 dumb expression.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 09:23:22 2018 No.3665921 >>3665912 it's too blue I think, should be greener

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 10:17:39 2018 No.3665964 >>3665831 >merc_wip

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 10:21:54 2018 No.3665968 File: 9 KB, 261x192, 1481164128546.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3664979 well, I'll be damned. good for him/her/whatever. and the rest of you faggots, when are you gonna make it out of here?!

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 10:22:11 2018 No.3665969 >>3665668 cant tell the difference between a pale girl and a mud-creature?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 10:25:40 2018 No.3665972 >>3665968 >and the rest of you faggots, when are you gonna make it out of here?! they prefer to sulk their face and try to bring to bring down anyone gittin gud to their level. high school mentality.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 10:27:42 2018 No.3665975 >>3665912 Veiny tits are disgusting

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 10:50:55 2018 No.3665987 >>3664979 OP, creating a Patreon page, doesn't mean to make it. Are you retarded or is this bait?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 11:01:46 2018 No.3666001 >>3665533 drawing casually is not working hard

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 11:09:45 2018 No.3666005 >>3665757 >Ic has 4 castes you forgot the 5th one, Absolute Top Tier Pros who only shitpost, and occasionally give out valuable tips to the right anons.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 11:18:31 2018 No.3666008 Firez's girls are way more appealing than anything ruan jia can come up with. How the fuck is that possible?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 11:24:11 2018 No.3666010 File: 20 KB, 277x253, fug.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] ITS HAPPENING

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 11:25:36 2018 No.3666011 File: 1.01 MB, 1550x1054, _rondo_of_moon2_by_ruanjia-d7vwlpp.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3666008 Of course Firez has appeal, but come on he cannot possibly compete with this piece.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 11:28:43 2018 No.3666012 File: 419 KB, 1125x1575, 1541210300501.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3666011 I can cherry pick too.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 11:28:52 2018 No.3666013 >>3666010 lol

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 11:30:39 2018 No.3666014 >>3666008 nice bait im not even taking this one

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 11:30:42 2018 No.3666015 >>3666012 The image you quoted doesn't stop existing as a piece Ruan Jia came up with just because you posted another one

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 11:33:47 2018 No.3666018 >>3666015 So is the one you're replying to.

Anonymous Sun Nov 4 11:33:47 2018 No.3666019

>>3666011
>>3666012
What is in those two to compete with?

RJ suffers from dead expressions, sick and ugly skin and hands in general. No amount of rendering masturbation will help that.

Meanwhile firez sketchbook studies have more life in them than anything RJ has put out so far.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 11:36:35 2018 No.3666022 >>3666019 What I'm getting at is that Firez has the range of cute to sexy girl thing down better than RJ. It's pointless to link RJs girls because they are ugly and dead by comparison.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 11:37:47 2018 No.3666023 >>3666018 What are you talking about? >Firez's girls are way more appealing than anything ruan jia can come up with. The guy proved this wrong with the first Jia image. Why would you counter with another painting? That wasn't the point

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 11:38:05 2018 No.3666025 Gj firez you're doing good for yourself keep pushing and working on your weaknesses

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 11:39:23 2018 No.3666026 >>3666023 That's some other anon. I am not going to bother posting RJs girls, see >>3666022

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 11:39:40 2018 No.3666028 >>3666023 I'm not the other Anon that said Firez is more appealing, what I am trying to point out is that you've clearly cherry picked a ruan jia piece

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 11:39:42 2018 No.3666029 >>3665670 He's better at colouring brown skin than white skin.

Anonymous Sun Nov 4 11:46:33 2018 No.3666033

>>3666026
>>3666028
And I'm not the guy who posted the first Jia painting and I have nothing against Firez either. Just saw this weird exchange from the first page.

>I am trying to point out is that you've clearly cherry picked a ruan jia piece
??? The guy said that Firez' girls are unconditionally more appealing than anything by Jia. Anon responded to the challenge and posted a pic to prove the statement wrong. And now people are talking about cherry picking? How is this cherry picking, do you know what cherry picking means?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 11:53:13 2018 No.3666035 >>3666033 Just what is it that you don't understand about the part where Anon cherry picked one of the more appealing works from Ruan Jia? If anything >>3666012 would be a more realistic piece of Ruan Jia's work.

Anonymous Sun Nov 4 12:00:04 2018 No.3666042

>>3666035
How can it be cherry picking if anon A says that artist x ALWAYS does [thing] better than artist y and anon B provides the one single piece of evidence needed to prove that artist x does in fact not ALWAYS do [thing] better than y? Really interested in your reasoning here

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 12:02:27 2018 No.3666046 >>3665066 She's nervous not terrified, maybe it's her first time and she was pulling her panties off but the stress made her tear them apart

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 12:04:26 2018 No.3666048 >>3666042 Because pictures speak louder than words.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 12:05:42 2018 No.3666050 I'm not a huge Firez fan but I am impressed at his dedication and progression. He has been grinding at the human body and facial expressions of both girls and guys that it's no wonder he has gotten good: https://firez-tbr.tumblr.com/archive

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 12:07:09 2018 No.3666051 >>3666048 u wot

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 12:13:34 2018 No.3666057 >>3666051 Just reread the part where Ruan Jia was plugged into this thread and if you still don't get the point read it over again.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 12:16:10 2018 No.3666059 >>3666033 To be fair it's not that hard to have more sex/cuteness appeal than RJ. I wouldn't be surprised if he suffers from autism and can't emotionally relate despite having mastered rendering.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 12:29:25 2018 No.3666073 >>3666022 >>3666019 nice bait

Anonymous Sun Nov 4 12:34:03 2018 No.3666076

>>3666057
What about it? Cherry picking is to present a piece of data confirming something and ignoring other pieces of data that do not confirm that something. This is not what happened in this case. Anon A claimed that things are always in one certain way and anon B showed that things are not always in that certain way. Ironically, >>3666012 is the only one cherry picking here supposing that he is >>3666008, since he made an absolute statement and ignored the contrary evidence in >>3666011.

It would be cherry picking from anon B if he said "all of the girls Jia paints look awesome" and posted flute girl while ignoring all less great looking Jia girls, but that is not what happened.

Not sure if it's possible to explain it more clearly. Seems like you're just playing dumb at this point. Have some shame, dude

Anonymous Sun Nov 4 12:46:40 2018 No.3666089

>>3666076
>Ironically, >>3666012 is the only one cherry picking here supposing that he is >>3666008

Two different anons.

>less great looking Jia girls

None of them even come close to great. Leyendecker is great. Tadema is great. RJ is at best tolerable.

It's not like any of this is news. RJ threads always end up discussing the lack of any emotion in his women and the stiff and pointless gestures.

Firez's girls are on their way up if the only crit people can come up with is "the perspective seems off". Meanwhile RJ is using his own aging hands as references and it shows.

>>3666014
>>3666073

>Someone doesn't share my opinion
>gr8 b8 m8

Anonymous Sun Nov 4 12:55:51 2018 No.3666109

>>3666089
Yeah I just came in to point out the sneaky arguments.

>None of them even come close to great.
That's an ok opinion to have. I sincerely believe that people generally would agree that Jia's flute girl has high appeal, though. Higher than Firez' girls at Firez' current level. That's not an insult to Firez btw, I respect his great progress and here we're sitting comparing him to Ruan Jia (10 years too early imo but whatever)

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 13:03:04 2018 No.3666118 >>3666109 Oh and flute girl's fingers are godlike, I would succ them all night

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 13:10:24 2018 No.3666121 is this a brainlet thread? brainlet thread it is.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 13:12:25 2018 No.3666126 maybe Ruan Jia can't put soul into his drawings because he has no soul himself

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 13:17:00 2018 No.3666130 >>3666126 Post your work and let's have a look at your soul

Anonymous Sun Nov 4 13:18:27 2018 No.3666131

>>3666109
>I sincerely believe that people generally would agree that Jia's flute girl has high appeal, though

At a glance yes. And then it fades off as there is nothing to grab onto. The rendering and the atmosphere are nice, and what more is there? If I want atmosphere I'll look at someone who knows what they're doing and have spent a lifetime perfecting it, like John Harris.

But the focus isn't the atmosphere. It's not even on the rendering. It's the girl playing the flute. And he just drops the ball on that one completely.

Firez started when he was 28 which according to /ic/ is too late to be a janitor, nevermind an illustrator. At 33 he already has command of a list of fetishes that people find attractive, including feet which is a big one. When he finally gets his rendering chops up to RJ levels, he is going to mop the floor with him. RJs multi-month renderings are his biggest downfall.

I threw RJ into the thread because RJ is held up as a pinnacular example. We shouldn't be holding RJ up as an example of, well, anything really. Unless you want to see how to render hair as strips of metal.

But there is plenty to point at in Firez' work as an up-and-coming artist who defies expectations and say "look at his work, and do that". I can't think of any example to say that about RJs work.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 13:21:32 2018 No.3666137 >>3666126 >>3666131 I can't believe the level of autism you guys are showing in here. It's a thread about firez opening patreon, and you are debating Ruan Jia. Fucking KYS.

Anonymous Sun Nov 4 13:23:52 2018 No.3666140

>>3664979
i dont really understand this piece

>i dont know if she is in front of me or she is above because the viewpoint isnt defined
>the niples are pointing directly to the floor implying im watching them from above
>her stomach is pushed back but the torso or legs arent
>shadows are good but the shape of the "light" on her look weird.

i really like some firez pieces and you can easly see the dedication this man put on his art but sometimes his art lack of something...

sorry but you dont have the spark firez

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 13:25:00 2018 No.3666143 >>3666131 Okay. If you think the average Firez girl has more appeal than Jia's flute girl, I have no comments. Also >>3666137 is right so I'm stopping here

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 13:40:58 2018 No.3666160 >>3666143 What do you think RJs girls are a good example of? In what sense does he excel over anyone else in that regard?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 13:43:38 2018 No.3666164 >>3664979 His tumblr has some pretty nifty music tbqh

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 13:49:47 2018 No.3666175 >>3665609 >>3666010 he actually did it the absolute madman

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 14:01:51 2018 No.3666190 >>3666137 >>3666143 >cant accept that ruan has no soul ngmi

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 15:25:50 2018 No.3666261 >>3666190 the thread

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 15:58:33 2018 No.3666288 >>3666190 nice bias opinion

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 16:00:06 2018 No.3666291 Why aren't you drawing rn?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 16:16:01 2018 No.3666304 >>3666291 why aren't you?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 16:33:50 2018 No.3666313 File: 18 KB, 842x507, kicks.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3666291 Saw this and did a doodle, 5 minutes. I'm pretty impressed, I didn't know I could do this pose. I remember wanting to do it some months ago and failing. Blessed post.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 17:46:22 2018 No.3666400 Mega bump

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 19:12:39 2018 No.3666461 File: 9 KB, 248x226, 1523940725809.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Are you there Firez? Please don't forget about us or where you came from when you make it and are with the big boys you glorious faggot.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 19:27:25 2018 No.3666472 File: 6 KB, 246x250, 1527599296387.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3666005 >Absolute Top Tier Pros The 5th caste is exclusively for yev?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 19:30:31 2018 No.3666474 >>3664979 Based Firez. Those copypasted frills look cheap as fuck tho.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 20:47:31 2018 No.3666539 >>3665081 Finnaly someone fucken said it. Everyone does it and it's so disgusting and selfish.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 21:38:44 2018 No.3666565 >>3666539 The commentary is praising him.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 21:47:40 2018 No.3666568 Including Firez, which /ic artists have improved the most?

Anonymous Sun Nov 4 22:06:43 2018 No.3666575
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>>3666568
Probably Rinfag, last time I heard from him he landed a position that allowed him to do what he loved in art. Not entirely sure of the details but he's improved to the point somebody noticed him and offered him a gig.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 4 22:52:50 2018 No.3666609 >>3666575 Blog?

Anonymous Mon Nov 5 02:58:59 2018 No.3666794
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>>3664979
The main problem i can see is that it appears as though she's above the viewer which makes the tits look really fucked. They should be pointing at the viewer not down to her navel. Quick paintover to show what i mean.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 5 03:02:19 2018 No.3666798 >>3666794 this

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 5 03:05:10 2018 No.3666803 >>3666794 maybe he is into saggy tits, i wouldn't be surprised

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 5 05:05:05 2018 No.3666886 >>3666794 If a woman's nipples face down like that, they going to face down no matter at the angle you are looking at them. Nipples can't migrate up the breasts, like your suggesting. You'll need plastic surgery to do that.

Anonymous Mon Nov 5 05:34:38 2018 No.3666911
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>>3666886
Bigger boobs swing forward when the woman leans over. From the implied viewers perspective they would almost appear face on as though she was standing straight up, Obviously the boob shape will change a bit with the nipple area coming out forward changing the depth of the breast because they aren't flattening against the ribcage. I'm not gonna spend hours looking for a perfect example but here you can see what i mean. The red arrow is about where the viewer would be in OPs pic. The blue is where the nipples would be if you used OP nips. Notice that from the red arrow perspective quite a bit of the breast is visible below the nipple? Even if you disregard everything i just said...ask yourself and others this question....which looks better and more appealing?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 5 05:38:23 2018 No.3666912 >>3666794 seconding this.

Anonymous Mon Nov 5 06:59:39 2018 No.3666972

>>3666886
The absolute state of /ic/
What a complete moron.
>>3666794
>>3666911
This.

And that's not the only problem with that pose. Her pelvis area and spine are completely broken too.

But it doesn't matter. Firez has a lot of room for improvement and he most probably will.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 5 09:48:28 2018 No.3667069 >>3666131 Ruan Jia is so much more than rendering. I cringe every time someone tries to sound informed while in the same post referring to RJ's only single trait to be "rendering".

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 5 10:16:36 2018 No.3667082 Firez is pretty average from what I'm seeing on his Artstation. Not sure what all the fuss is about when he's clearly still got a fuck-ton left to learn. And is he even trying anymore, or is he content with what he's achieved?

Anonymous Mon Nov 5 11:51:54 2018 No.3667133

>>3666911
>>3666972

Jesus Christ!! Why fuck do I come to this site? You trying to tell a woman with the type of breasts depicted how in the original picture how they work????

Your nipples depicted in blue don't move upwards like that to the ones you are pointing at, they stay pointing down!!! The only way I can get the nipples pointing down to go upwards is to lift them upwards with my hands underneath them or painfully manipulate the skin and muscles from above to lift them.

These are two completely different breast types!!!

Anonymous Mon Nov 5 12:03:42 2018 No.3667136
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>>3666911
>>3666972
Now that you've mentioned the location of the nipples I can't unsee; it is as if her upper torso is in a completely different perspective now.
>>3667133
Be a hero and post your breasts in that same perspective this is a complete mindfuck. I am willing to bet money that the nipples would look more like >>3666794 as opposed to Fire'z

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 5 12:06:14 2018 No.3667140 >>3667133 >being this dumb Grats, you are a complete scrub. You are never gonna make it. GG. >being this dumb That's why you come to this site.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 5 12:13:45 2018 No.3667148 >>3667069 holy shit somebody actually gets it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 5 12:14:46 2018 No.3667150 >>3666131 >John Harris wow! theres barely anything there!

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 5 12:17:46 2018 No.3667154 >>3667069 What is he?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 5 12:42:20 2018 No.3667185 File: 11 KB, 279x235, 1458937968533.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >You now realize that Fire'z is in the same level of /ic/ butthurt as Kr0nz and Sakimichan with jelly sour berries nitpicking to death What timeline is this.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 5 12:47:35 2018 No.3667193 >>3667185 The timeline where /ic/ realizes they can't critique firez anymore and his work begins to take off. Enjoy the bucket, crabs.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 5 14:10:10 2018 No.3667275 >>3664979 line fucking art + gradient 3/10 fuckin noob

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 5 14:12:28 2018 No.3667277 >>3667185 getting cherried pick to death has nothing to do with skill level, as far as you know being a meme on this board is cancer and thats all firez will ever be. a meme that will die.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 5 14:13:47 2018 No.3667279 >>3667275 pyw if you're so knowledgeable bitch

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 5 14:27:45 2018 No.3667300 >>3667193 LMAO. I guess it's time you check some posts in here. A lot of anons deconstructed that pic in OP. It's full of flaws. Comparing firez to Kron or Sakkimichan is retarded af LMAO.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 5 14:33:54 2018 No.3667308 File: 678 KB, 480x320, 1486841497514.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3667300 >>3667277 >>3667275

Anonymous Mon Nov 5 14:43:23 2018 No.3667318

>>3667133
If you're young and your boobs sag that much, you need to lay off having babies for a while. Nipples are typically supported by a bed of fat which keep the nipples pointing outward instead of down. It's fine to say that different breast types exist, but that is not what FIrez is trying to depict. Perky boobs are simply more attractive and sell better, so I can't imagine he would try to draw saggy tits.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 5 15:19:10 2018 No.3667354 >>3665054 What the fuck is the point of moralfagging on an anonymous image board? kys r*ddit tourist

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 5 15:30:39 2018 No.3667367 >>3665092 idk man, it's not traced and there is a certain level of knowledge inside the painting itself. it's not anything groundbreaking but somehow the thing 'works', more or less. I think he is doing good

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 5 15:41:05 2018 No.3667372 >>3666050 damn, that is a lot of effort and time, I hope he makes it, I hope we all make it lads, you people need some Zyzz mentality brahs

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 5 16:02:32 2018 No.3667392 >>3667308 Maybe someday you'll see it too, kid.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 5 16:13:12 2018 No.3667406 >>3667318 long time no see, boob master

Anonymous Mon Nov 5 16:17:49 2018 No.3667408
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>>3667392
Okay you have a more developed artistic eye forged by years of experience in draftsmanship and thousands of hours of life drawing under your belt. Let's have at it, post your work and show us lowly plebeian folk how it's done pretty please.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 5 16:56:24 2018 No.3667447 >>3666609 it's yilx

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 5 18:17:51 2018 No.3667552 >>3664979 Context on the emotion here? I don't understand what she's meant to be doing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 5 20:56:23 2018 No.3667703 >>3665600 >clearly ripping the panties yes fabric tends to stretch before reaching a ripping point, fuck youre retarded.

Anonymous Mon Nov 5 21:01:01 2018 No.3667710
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>>3667408
I don't have the time to redline that, sorry.
But basically I agree with everything these anons said
>>3666794
>>3666911
Plus the pelvis and thighs are out of perspective imo.

All this said, I think Firez has a great potential to become good, perspective and anatomical errors are the least of his problems imo.

Pic attached is my work.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 5 22:35:59 2018 No.3667838 File: 3.53 MB, 1280x720, (you).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3667710 >I don't have the time to redline that, sorry.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 5 22:43:46 2018 No.3667844 >>3667710 i like your work, but her nipples.. what the hell is going on under there

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 5 22:45:18 2018 No.3667845 >>3667844 Don't start this shit again.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 5 23:07:05 2018 No.3667857 So what's the verdict? Is Firez going to become an art god and surpass Sakimichan and Ruan?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 5 23:07:07 2018 No.3667858 File: 100 KB, 458x318, asdasdsad.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3667844

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 5 23:36:36 2018 No.3667893 >>3667857 >sakimichan probably if he improve his rendering >Ruan Ruan has his own gimmick style and several league above Firez in fields like landscape/costumes/atmosphere.. he is a true professional artist after all

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 6 00:09:07 2018 No.3667922 The pic in the OP is really quite good. Not surprising at all that this thread is just another /ic/ bucket of crabs. This is why y'all suck at art.

Anonymous Tue Nov 6 01:56:59 2018 No.3667986

>>3667922
I think it's kind of boring. There's no texture or background or interesting color harmony going on.

The anatomy isn't bad, but it's not praise-worthy, either. The shape design is lackluster, the perspective is confusing, the narrative is just suggestive enough to make you wonder what's going on, but shallow enough to not be interesting enough to care at the same time.

If this is what people here on IC consider successful, I just wonder if people are getting softer. Minus the crabs who just say everything is shit by default.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 6 07:02:08 2018 No.3668202 >>3667408 >>3667710 >REDPILLED kek

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 6 07:06:22 2018 No.3668206 >>3667710 If you're actually BBC chan I really like your art. :)

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 6 07:26:34 2018 No.3668219 >>3667710 you gotta learn how forearms work, bro this is just a mess, and yes, we can tell.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 6 07:35:56 2018 No.3668228 >>3668206 Thanks. >>3668219 You mean muscle masses? I just go by memory and I can be hit an miss all the time. I don't really care about realistic anatomy. As long as proportions and perspective are appealing enough, I'm good.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 6 07:41:10 2018 No.3668232 >>3664979 patreon porn is making it? the last resort of a junky is the first order of /ic/, losers

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 6 07:43:07 2018 No.3668234 >>3668232 >living off art >not making it Post your work

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 6 07:47:11 2018 No.3668236 >>3668232 Making it is a relative term. For some people it means to get better and better at art, for some it means to make money, etc.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 6 07:50:17 2018 No.3668239 >>3668236 yeah but getting better at art and making money are mutually exclusive you literally dont have to be good at all to make money from art.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 6 07:52:20 2018 No.3668241 File: 205 KB, 800x1154, merc_wip.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3668234

Anonymous Tue Nov 6 08:03:04 2018 No.3668252

>>3668239
I agree, but I don't understand what you are trying to say.
My point was that making it is a relative thing.
Maybe for you making it means that you become godlike at art.
But for somebody else it might mean they are making a lot of money from it.
Some other people pursue both goals.
And so on.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 6 08:04:06 2018 No.3668253 >>3668241 Pussies like you shouldn't make claims like this >>3668232

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 6 08:20:15 2018 No.3668273 >>3668236 finally someone gets it

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 6 08:21:12 2018 No.3668274 >>3668253 but it's a fact, getting paid for soft porn on the internet is the last resort for many girls, and apparently it's the goal of many on /ic/. which makes those people losers.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 6 08:43:07 2018 No.3668291 >>3665871 >>3665872 piss off firez

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 6 12:42:43 2018 No.3668501 >>3668291 >piece of shit can't post his work

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 6 12:53:08 2018 No.3668510 >>3664979 >>3664986 >>3664996 >>3664999 >>3665029 Someone fill me in on this firez motherfucker?

Anonymous Tue Nov 6 13:06:21 2018 No.3668527
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>>3668510
About six years ago a namefag stumbled upon /ic/ named Firez who kept posting repeated Rin drawings that were all a WIP. /ic/ was feeling a bit generous that day so many Anons pitched in to critique, and Firez only picked out critiques that only fancied him. However, the other Anons that were ignored by Firez got butthurt and started attacking Firez for not applying their critique on the Rin Wips.

This charade of Anons critiquing Firez and Firez only hand picking critiques he fancied continued until the little bunch that got butthurt for being ignored grew and so the saga continues to this day with the asspain still fresh from those days way back and as the buttpain grew over the years so did Firez's skills.

In short, /ic/ is mad as hell.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 6 14:04:34 2018 No.3668615 >>3665239 >launched 2 days ago >this thread appears really activates my almonds

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 6 14:46:48 2018 No.3668689 >>3665600 Artist link?

Anonymous Tue Nov 6 23:53:37 2018 No.3669391

>>3665757
>>3664979
the only problem i have with the art is that the panties aren't stretching the way they would if she was putting that tension on them. they are stretched correctly in the front but not in the back, which would have equal tension, minus the curve of her rear that they (I'm assuming ) are still in contact with

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 7 04:40:36 2018 No.3669577 >>3668527 Damn lol. Thanks for taking your time to tell me.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 7 04:56:14 2018 No.3669600 >>3669391 No one cares about the art, they just want a pity party.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 7 04:57:09 2018 No.3669602 >>3664979 what exactly is happening in this picture

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 7 05:00:00 2018 No.3669604 File: 28 KB, 300x300, sm.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3668527 >currently posting Rin wips in the anime study thread >read this >mfw

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 7 10:21:04 2018 No.3669886 >>3668527 That explains the butthurt in this thread. He's advancing. Good for him.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 7 11:29:06 2018 No.3669957 >>3669604 I don't see them.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 7 12:08:44 2018 No.3669993 File: 9 KB, 258x222, frez.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >made it You sure?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 7 12:39:25 2018 No.3670031 >>3669993 pretty sure half posts itt are firez himself, trying to convince us to donate through reverse psychology

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 7 12:41:02 2018 No.3670034 >>3670031 It's time to take your meds again.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 7 12:50:57 2018 No.3670047 >>3669957 it's possible we're talking about different Rins >>3669424

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 7 12:59:29 2018 No.3670060 >>3668527 >grew over the years so did Firez's skills 6 years later he still sucks and hes old as fuck, when i, myself a lot younger draw better than him and in half the time.

Anonymous Wed Nov 7 13:03:18 2018 No.3670061

>>3668252
my point was making money in itself is not making it because its irrelevant to drawing since anyone could buy your stuff regardless of its skill level. when the whole point of making it is to get good... just like getting fit, there is an aim to be had. making money is not an aim... regardless of the quantity.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 7 13:05:20 2018 No.3670063 File: 57 KB, 520x520, 1540171969377.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3670060 Neuroplasticity is quite advantageous especially at a young age. It would be a darn shame if somebody asked you to oh I don't know - post your work.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 7 13:06:46 2018 No.3670065 >>3670060 this is what you say to yourself every night before crying to sleep?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 7 13:16:27 2018 No.3670078 >>3670063 >>3670065I iIm not gonna dazzle you with my superior drawings, maybe some other time when im feeling generous.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 7 13:19:04 2018 No.3670080 File: 24 KB, 345x458, 1516696432026.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3670078 I'll show you mine if you show me yours.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 7 13:22:28 2018 No.3670081 File: 140 KB, 354x378, 1528424486158.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3670078 >he think he is better than me

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 7 13:23:40 2018 No.3670082 >>3670078 Your a crap artist and have never provided anything of value to the art world. You'll never make it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 7 13:32:03 2018 No.3670091 >>3670080 >>3670081 >>3670082 calm down ladies i said some other time sheesh

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 7 13:36:54 2018 No.3670096 File: 100 KB, 511x788, 1531279656662.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3670091

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 7 14:00:41 2018 No.3670137 >>3670091 A good artist would already have some available to post. Eat shit you NGMI crab

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 7 14:17:59 2018 No.3670154 >>3670137 >>3670096 I do, but I like making my bitches wait.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 7 14:24:50 2018 No.3670159 >>3670060 >>3670078 >>3670091 >>3670154 oh no no no no HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 7 21:59:27 2018 No.3670660 >>3670154 No one really feels threatened by your attempt at a display of power.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 8 03:00:48 2018 No.3670896 >>3670061 And my point is that making money in itself is making it for a lot of people (me included). I guess we're not on the same page here.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 8 04:03:23 2018 No.3670938 >>3666011 Better than 60% of /ic/

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 8 18:48:54 2018 No.3671876 >>3666012 who is the artist?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 8 18:52:41 2018 No.3671879 >>3671876 Ruan Jia.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 8 20:26:28 2018 No.3671969 >>3671879 thank you kind sir

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