skill test

[Anonymous No.3661582]

draw this

[Anonymous No.3661595]

>>3661582
The clothing is over-detailed, it's stealing the focus from the skullface.

[Anonymous No.3661714]

>>3661595
Endless fucking criticism on this board. Nothing is ever good enough

[Anonymous No.3661717]

>>3661582
2 spoopy to draw

[Anonymous No.3661765]

>>3661582
ill try it during my lunch break.

[Anonymous No.3661767]

>>3661714
He is not wrong you know.

[Anonymous No.3661773]

>>3661595
>>3661714
>>3661767
its a photo

[Anonymous No.3661777]

>>3661582
no u

[Anonymous No.3661779]

>>3661595
fix it in your drawerign

[Anonymous No.3661788]

>>3661595
making excuses for yourself before you even begin drawing

[Anonymous No.3661967]

>>3661582
I started. Please don’t let this thread die before I finish because it’s going to take a while

[Anonymous No.3662097]

>>3661582
Do you have a higher res version? It's pretty hard to make out what's happening

[Anonymous No.3662108]

>>3661595
and?

[Anonymous No.3662125]

>>3661595
its kind of amazing that the skull has the least amount of hue variation but our eyes are immediately drawn there.

[Anonymous No.3662126]

>>3661595
shit taste and NGMIpilled

[Anonymous No.3662138]

>>3662097
>It's pretty hard to make out what's happening
It's a rich skeleton, it's pretty easy to see to be desu.

[Anonymous No.3662158]

[Anonymous No.3662166]

>>3662097

[Anonymous No.3662242]

>>3661714
First time here and it's a accurate response to your query!

[Anonymous No.3662261]

>>3662166
Incredible. How dud u get so good?

[Anonymous No.3662275]

>>3661595
nah, there's 2 ways to create focus: either a detailed thing amidst less detail, or a simple thing surrounded by detail. The simple recognizable shapes of the skull create a focal point despite the overly detailed surroundings

[Anonymous No.3662639]

>>3662261

[Anonymous No.3662643]

>>3662261
Bejeweled Skeletons

[Anonymous No.3662855]

>>3661765

[Anonymous No.3662878]

>>3662855
>not adding the details

[Anonymous No.3663067]

>>3661582

[Anonymous No.3663074]

>>3663067
t-teach me your ways fren

[Anonymous No.3663099]

>>3663067
hot diggity

[Anonymous No.3663105]

>>3661967
its literally SHIT on a FUCKING CANVAS

[Anonymous No.3663107]

>>3663074
>>3663099
how do u not realize its a part shop

[Anonymous No.3663112]

>all those fucking tiny symbols
Miss me with that gay shit

[Anonymous No.3663124]

>>3663067
This takes longer than I'm willing to spend on an /ic/ study, just glad to get some bone, metal, and cloth.

[Anonymous No.3663179]

>>3661582

[Anonymous No.3663203]

>>3663124
Looks amazing. Do you have a gallery of your work?

[Anonymous No.3663213]

>>3663105
looks pretty good in thumbnail

[Anonymous No.3663229]

>>3661595
A brainlet and tastelet on /ic/. Color me surprised.

[Anonymous No.3663233]

>>3663067
Looks better than the original

[Anonymous No.3663529]

>>3662878
I cant do that during lunch!

[Anonymous No.3663581]

>>3661582
painted this in 5 minutes on my motorola. i dont even care lmao. im also a concept artist btw working on you know big movies LOL. hire me now

[Anonymous No.3663583]

>>3663581
>putting a filter on photo and saying its yours
/ic/ in a nutshell

[Anonymous No.3663595]

>>3663583
You must be new here

[Anonymous No.3663613]

>>3663581

gumroad tutorial when?

[Anonymous No.3663620]

>>3663581
blog?

[Anonymous No.3663625]

>>3661595
who said the focus is the skull?
but I agree that the clothes are ugly and over detailed

[Anonymous No.3663694]

>>3661714
Exactly. Nothing is perfect. Ever. The closest you'll get is almost perfection. You'll learn this in time.

[Anonymous No.3663698]

>>3662125
contrast, bro

[Anonymous No.3663739]

>>3661595
Dumb theoryfag.

[Anonymous No.3663940]

>>3663581
patreon?

[Anonymous No.3664005]

>>3663581
needs more lens flare

[Anonymous No.3664073]

I tried doing it, and the result is not good. The jewels look like ass, and even the mirror frame, which should be rather simple to do, is throwing me off harder than it should.

Any suggestions on how to improve in those regards? Or suggestions in general.

[Anonymous No.3664103]

>>3664073

Try to aim for lower level of detail and a more painterly treatment. The more detailed/photographic you're going for the more precise you have to be with measurements and yours are off by a wide margin. It's better to include less detail and get the general shapes right than painting everything but poorly. Things like jevewlry should best be treated with abstraction and look like splatches of color up close. Photorealism will take you 50-100 hours.

[Anonymous No.3664105]

>>3663581
furaffinity?

[Anonymous No.3664112]

>>3664073
The skull is misshapen. Get the drawing right before painting. Get the shapes and planes right first. Texturing should be saved for later.

The jewels should be treated as a pattern or a texture, with geometry given only to the larger pieces. Metal has a wide value range, so go for very bright lights against dark and rich shades. It's okay to speckle some pure whites and pure blacks in there.

[Anonymous No.3664156]

>>3663124
software?

[Anonymous No.3664177]

>>3664156
Sai, default round paintbrush and watercolor.

[Anonymous No.3664805]

[Anonymous No.3664983]

>>3661582
grandmaster kim jung gi farts in your face
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVuq4CR_78k

[Anonymous No.3665302]

>>3664177
>Fucking PAINT TOOL SAI
Very nice. Got a blog?

[Anonymous No.3665380]

more poopy than spoopy

[Anonymous No.3665384]

I wouldn't paint that 100% even if I felt I would gain something. Way too ornate.

[Anonymous No.3665393]

>>3663124
what resources did you use to learn from to get this gud?

[Anonymous No.3665411]

Is it okay if I do it in black and white? I don't want to waste colors.

[Anonymous No.3665412]

>>3663124
>overlap them
>is not actually traced

[Anonymous No.3665487]

>>3661967
Finally done

[Anonymous No.3665539]

>>3663124
because its not, its not even traced.

[Anonymous No.3665540]

>>3665487
well done my man

[Anonymous No.3665677]

>>3661582

[Anonymous No.3666017]

>>3664805

[Anonymous No.3666044]

>>3665487
nigga, you crazy!

[Anonymous No.3667084]

>>3665380
looks awesome

[Anonymous No.3667387]

>>3665487
that's wonderful

[Anonymous No.3667863]

[Anonymous No.3667929]

>>3666017
This. This is going to be the best one.
Blog?

[Anonymous No.3668097]

>>3663124
this is so good it motivates me so much yet i want to kill myself knowing that i ll prolly need 5 more years to reach this level. my 10 min attempt btw im still a beg fag

[Anonymous No.3668301]

>>3665487
holy dedication, props man

[Anonymous No.3668419]

>>3666017
Nah >>3663124 is too far ahead in terms of painting skill

[Anonymous No.3669587]

>>3667863
how does Chase Stone do it?

[Anonymous No.3669608]

>>3669587

Photos.

[Anonymous No.3669739]

>>3668419
Only furries can render like this. Art blog?

[Anonymous No.3669772]

>>3665487


Sweet Jesus

[Anonymous No.3669774]

>>3668097

I think it is great anon.

[Anonymous No.3669803]

>>3669774
Thx anon

[Anonymous No.3669943]

>>3668419
>>3663124
how do people past a certain skill level just acquire the ability to copy a reference so well, i'm not even an absolute beginner and i still can't fathom this.
any and all of my studies are still fucked left right and center, it's distressing, i want to understand reality to stylize effectively but i can't even get the measurements of a copied photo right.

[Anonymous No.3669959]

>>3663581
based

[Anonymous No.3669968]

>>3669943
This was actually my first photostudy in a year or so and I tried it because I wanted to force myself to finally try one. You can see it in the initial line-drawing which isn't very accurate, and even up to now where the skull and posture has warped compared to the original.
The biggest thing I think is working the image as a whole, when you compare >>3663124
to >>3665487 and >>3664073 in terms of just the jaw jewelry, >>3663124 probably isnt much better in terms of measurements and placement of the jems but it looks so much better because he's drawing not the jewelry flat on but the impression of it like >>3664112
recommends. The light and dark is there and your mind fills the rest.

When I paint it I'm having 3 windows open, one for my painting, one for the reference right by it and one for me to actually paint on, and as I'm working it Im looking mostly at the zoomed out painting, seeing if the big overall shapes are matching up, or if my random strokes are summing up to the impression of jewelry. For this photostudy the mindset I have right now isnt to get an exact 1:1 copy but to learn how to imply the visual info in the reference in a painting without actually having to copy every pixel.

>>3669739
Not a furry btw and no blog

[Anonymous No.3670019]

>>3665487
Amazing anon

[Anonymous No.3670059]

>>3661582
the lightning on this is so strange. What does give this effect? It looks almost like it is underwater

[Anonymous No.3670102]

>>3669968
thank you for the insightful post anon. i think a lot of the problem is that i don't think like a painter yet, i don't know how to simplify colors and convey planes, i always did draw mostly based off lines and worse yet contour instead of forms
it's just so tiring sometimes trying and immediately seeing how i failed. feels like i improved a lot since my earlier drawings but the climbing difficulty just got harder and more stressing
but yeah thanks again

[Anonymous No.3670151]

>>3669943
>acquire the ability to copy

I don't copy directly, I construct. I mainly draw cartoons. I'm not concerned about accuracy to the reference, but logic within the drawing. The logic is okay, so the drawing seems right without necessarily being accurate, which is tedious and difficult.

It's also worth noting how simple and sloppy the coloring can be when using glazing/overlay. It's not always the proper approach, but in this case the reference already looks like a Flemish painting.

[Anonymous No.3670161]

>>3661582

dont mind me, superior art coming through

[Anonymous No.3670168]

>>3670151
>when using glazing/overlay
what is this exactly?

[Anonymous No.3670182]

Make way.

[Anonymous No.3670183]

>>3670168
Painting a monochromatic painting then adding colors to it using a combination of effect layers, usually overlay, multiple, or color in photoshop, or simply a layer with low opacity. If the monochromatic painting is already very tight, this would allow you to add colors without destroying the value structure and edges already present in the monochrome layer.

[Anonymous No.3670230]

Attempt 2, much better than the first but I still messed up a lot
>>3669968
>>3670151
really insightful stuff, thanks a lot anons

[Anonymous No.3670316]

>>3665487
The madman actually did it

[Anonymous No.3670498]

>>3670151
What do you mean by logic in the drawing?

[Anonymous No.3670518]

>>3663105
Man, he proved you the fuck wrong.

[Anonymous No.3670798]

>>3663067
u havent done nothing yet just turned into b&w so we think u painted it

[Anonymous No.3672044]

>>3664156
wow reminds me when I used to paint studies on Sai...
It does have some very cool unique features, but it takes forever to render anything textury
good job on the study

[Anonymous No.3672175]

>>3670498
I mean things like symmetry, perspective, alignment. Those are things you can figure out for your drawing without constantly looking back to your reference.

If you try to direct copy and get 90% of it spot on while 10% of it is slightly off, the entire drawing will feel off. If you construct the drawing and 90% of it is slightly off from the reference, but all the proportions and placement and midlines within the drawing feel consistent with each other, then the drawing will feel okay.

[Anonymous No.3672885]

just started, anyone spot any obvious mistakes before i start to polish shit?

[Anonymous No.3673045]

>>3672885
I would move the eyes farther apart, but not bad for a start

[Anonymous No.3674255]

>>3661582
My try.

[Anonymous No.3674516]

>>3661582

[Anonymous No.3674542]

[Anonymous No.3674558]

>>3665487
why anon holy shit

[Anonymous No.3674611]

>>3662125
something to do with fusiform face area

[Anonymous No.3674898]

>>3663581
based

[Anonymous No.3674999]

>>3669968
those brushstrokes look familiar, did you do this in Sai?

[Anonymous No.3675213]

>>3670059
I am pretty certain this was photographed through an old glass.

[Anonymous No.3675215]

>>3661595
I don't think the painter was going for purely focus. It's amazing craftman's ship desu.

[Anonymous No.3675218]

>>3662878
He didn't wanted to take away from the focus you moron, anon already explained it: >>3661595

[Anonymous No.3675224]

>>3669968
this method looks like it would take for fuckin ever

[Anonymous No.3675247]

>>3661595
Fixed

[Anonymous No.3675259]

>>3675247
kek

[Anonymous No.3676886]

>>3674999
Yea sai, checked btw
>>3675224
Most of the time was spent trying to figure out how to do it instead of actually doing it

[Anonymous No.3677095]

>>3661582
Please enjoy this endearing shitty version.

[Anonymous No.3677335]

(I gave up)

[Anonymous No.3678042]

>>3661595
No it doesn't, the skull is the first thing I notice when looking at it

[Anonymous No.3678052]

>>3677335
I was fucking waiting for someone to do Skeletor kek

[Anonymous No.3680580]

>>3663581
Based and redpilled

[Anonymous No.3680926]

That was a lot of fun. I phoned in a lot of it though... Next time i'll slow down a little more.

[Anonymous No.3681077]

>>3677095
fucking cute

[Anonymous No.3681079]

[Anonymous No.3681103]

>>3681079
ryan, is that you?

[Anonymous No.3681108]

>>3681103
idk who ryan is but is this a good painting

[Anonymous No.3681134]

>>3665487
cool

[Anonymous No.3681218]

>>3669968
this is up there in the master tier i should think

[Anonymous No.3681448]

>>3669968
master brother anon would you be so kind to tell me what brushsetting you used for the lineart and what sensitifity setting you have on the tablet, you would help me out tremendously, cause I see some elements in there that im searching for.

This shit really good, saved in my artref folder