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/Beg/inner Thread Anonymous Fri Oct 26 13:56:34 2018 No.3655112 [Reply] [Original]

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the Drawthread with our fundamental exercises.

Previous Thread >>3650330

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, do not give up, make someone proud.

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS:
1)
>screenshot the image and post that instead
2)
>change camera capture settings to something smaller
3)
>send to computer and resize in MSPaint

READ THE STICKY if you need guidance when you haven't even started

Sticky: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

TRY TO GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK - many studies are left unreplied, which is a bit sad and can be quite demotivating for the people that try their best to improve, but are left directionless.

REMEMBER, if you've just started out you work will not be good, it doesn't need to be, just get in to the swing of actually drawing, and learning how to study. Most of all, enjoy it.

"Success is no accident. It is hard work, perseverance, learning, studying, sacrifice and most of all, love of what you are doing or learning to do."

Anonymous Fri Oct 26 14:01:36 2018 No.3655119

I need to know if im going the right path.

Since i gotta learn observational skills (going in order lf the sticky), i plan on goong through both Keys to Drawing and Drawing on the right side of the Brain. Just started both and been splitting my time everyday between the two.

Is it better to stick to one book and complete it before tackling the other or okay to do it this way.

Also is more hours in a day beneficial to studies or best to limit the times spent each day per subject.

Please i need to know, i want to make it.

Anonymous Fri Oct 26 14:44:11 2018 No.3655166

Don't know where else to ask this, but does anyone know how to enable perspective grids in Clip Studio? I got a subscription with my new tablet and read that this is supposedly a feature but I can't figure it out. I'm hoping to replace Photoshop if this is actually a thing.

Anonymous Fri Oct 26 14:45:26 2018 No.3655169

>>3655119

as far as hours are concerned, the first 5-6hours of work you do(if you're doing deliberate practice), will have the most efficiency, after that you start getting diminishing returns.

if you have the time, invest as much of it as you can if you want to make it. if you just started out, going full out and working like a maniac might be a bad idea as it will be demotivating.

best advice I can give is to reward yourself after you're done studying with some freestyle drawing / fun. you want your brain to associate drawing with fun, not with hard work and misery that comes from deliberate practice

Anonymous Fri Oct 26 14:47:49 2018 No.3655175

>>3655169
this is more of the advice that has actual weight. i practice endlessly as to make sure im staying true to my drive. i rarely take breaks but it is nice to have cool down moments where i'd draw a couple of loli works. (which is the one thing that gotten me inspired to draw in the first place)

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 26 14:48:51 2018 No.3655177 >>3655166 i personally draw my own grids via an xyz axis

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 26 14:52:57 2018 No.3655181 File: 851 KB, 716x1005, WIN_20181024_12_58_27_Pro.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] pic 1 of x

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 26 14:53:01 2018 No.3655182 >>3655177 I know that I can draw my own, but it's kind of a pain in the ass to do for every drawing when it should be easily automated.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 26 14:54:08 2018 No.3655184 >>3655181 ideally, the trick is to "memorize" the grid so you dont need the grid. i have not hit this point yet lmfao.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 26 14:55:09 2018 No.3655185 File: 143 KB, 1280x720, WIN_20181026_13_51_57_Pro.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3655181 2 of x

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 26 14:55:54 2018 No.3655187 File: 137 KB, 1280x720, WIN_20181026_13_50_37_Pro.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3655185 3 of x

Anonymous Fri Oct 26 14:56:32 2018 No.3655191

>>3655169

What I like to do is do studies/exercises for increments of 25 to 30 minutes, then take a break of 5 to do whatever, then repeat.

Hard for me personally to draw "for fun" when I wanna design characters and draw attractive womenband cant really do that just yet without hating every line i draw.

Solid advice by the way! Thanks. I'm guessing I should dedicate the time to a single source of learning as opposed to 2 at once?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 26 14:56:55 2018 No.3655192 File: 439 KB, 1500x2000, Webp.net-resizeimage (4).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] rate my pupper

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 26 14:57:43 2018 No.3655194 >>3655192 better than all of my puppers, but what are his legs doing?

Anonymous Fri Oct 26 14:59:03 2018 No.3655196

1. i do 80 -1m gestures daily.
2. i draw 50 arms in different angles and perspectives doing different things. OR just 5 really detailed ones of the same sort
3. i pick a character (in this case kitsune-bi) from monstergirl encyclopedia doing something outside my comfort zone
4. probably repeat and rinse or read manga or study japanese.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 26 15:00:57 2018 No.3655198 >>3655194 he's supposed to be lying down, but I made him look like he's floating in space unfortunately

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 26 15:01:11 2018 No.3655199 >>3655191 not him btw i hate almost everything i draw because it falls short of my unfair standard. but i practice and try anyway cuz nothing beats unrelenting perseverance with 0 doubt you'll get better.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 26 15:04:39 2018 No.3655206 File: 152 KB, 1280x720, WIN_20181026_14_03_18_Pro.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3655181 >>3655185 >>3655187 last one for now 5 of 5

Anonymous Fri Oct 26 17:00:03 2018 No.3655364

>>3655119
Ignore right side. Spend as many hours as you want, but do the hard stuff first (what you consider hard depends on you). The burnout will happen, but you will also make good progress. You want to burn through Keys fast because the exercises there are too easy/don't ask enough of you to be critiqued. Deliberate practice is all about asking for critique (in a way that doesn't piss people off).

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 26 17:08:01 2018 No.3655368 >>3655364 *do the hard stuff first every day. So if you consider reading hard, do that first. If you hate grinding fundies, put that at the beginning of your schedule.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 26 17:19:19 2018 No.3655385 >>3655364 >burn through it fast So like don't repeat each project/exercise multiple times, cause that was the plan? >>3655368 I tend to spend an hour working on pen control/draftsmanship first thing in the morning before tackling fundies.

Anonymous Fri Oct 26 17:30:12 2018 No.3655409
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>>3655112
Will I be able to sketch better digitally if I practice?

I'm overall a beginner but I can at least get some okay results sketching on paper. But digitally it's way harder to maintain proportions and all my lines look like shit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 26 17:31:56 2018 No.3655416 >>3655409 getting used to digital takes a couple months for most people. just keep at it, draw every day and you'll get there.

Anonymous Fri Oct 26 17:46:13 2018 No.3655426

>>3655385
Keys is basic stuff. One lesson is "box in your figure and start at the center so it doesn't go off the page". Another lesson is "use lines fancy to achieve special effects". The work is going to get a lot harder once you're studying anatomy or stressing over a Robertson autism car, so if you want to take your time, take your time there. I mean, most people would agree you don't need to draw a perfect ellipse before you can move on to other things, because you'll practice that skill in other drawings and exercises.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 26 17:46:14 2018 No.3655427 File: 106 KB, 600x894, back.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] well?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 26 17:47:15 2018 No.3655429 >>3655427 Does it look good to you? Yes/no question.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 26 17:48:06 2018 No.3655432 >>3655429 sure. hbu bb?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 26 17:53:19 2018 No.3655434 >>3655432 It's great. Give it to a girl you like as a gift.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 26 18:57:19 2018 No.3655491 >>3655426 Well alright then. Want to sharpen observational skills at least enough to be able to sketch what i see, while I tackle construction next. Guessing DrawABox is the way to go for that huh.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 26 19:01:40 2018 No.3655495 File: 100 KB, 1280x720, WIN_20181026_18_00_07_Pro.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i tried drawing a figure in a newer perspective. i havent tried this "far up" before. what could i've done better?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 26 19:12:37 2018 No.3655507 File: 100 KB, 614x1024, rwarawra.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm content with those

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 26 19:20:34 2018 No.3655512 >>3655507 nonononono never be content. lest you want to end up with tumblr syndrome

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 26 19:23:26 2018 No.3655517 File: 122 KB, 760x720, nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 26 19:24:27 2018 No.3655518 >>3655512 yes I know maybe I should have said that I was happy that I finally was able to capture the likeness of what I'm drawing, it's a step I guess

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 26 19:25:45 2018 No.3655520 >>3655518 quints can confirm.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 26 19:26:46 2018 No.3655521 >>3655517 >kitsune-bi (monstergirl encyclopedia) but she's a nu

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 26 19:31:40 2018 No.3655526 File: 52 KB, 432x980, IMG_20181026_192029.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I've finished going through Hampton's Figure Drawing book, up to drapery. Where do you recommend I go from here? Should I just do drapery?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 26 21:54:28 2018 No.3655658 Is there a handy trick for doing hands holding things?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 26 22:58:23 2018 No.3655712 >>3655658 Literally look at your own hand as a crutch, you'll get the right idea and eventually learn how to do it fine enough.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 26 23:15:12 2018 No.3655725 >>3655712 I have really stupid hands that don't look good

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 26 23:39:55 2018 No.3655752 >>3655526 i recommend using less line and more shading/smudging/crosshatching

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 26 23:41:30 2018 No.3655758 Is it normal to look at the clock and realize you've just spent hours on one drawing and feel like it was a massive waste of time?

Anonymous Fri Oct 26 23:44:19 2018 No.3655764

>>3655758
if you can spend uninterrupted hours on drawing its not a waste of time. seriously, putting in hours is the hardest thing to master. if you can read some instructional books and watch tutorials and look at good art while doing it, its the most assured path to greatness.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 26 23:46:04 2018 No.3655765 File: 540 KB, 1200x900, stuff.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i dont know

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 26 23:57:28 2018 No.3655782 File: 103 KB, 541x800, asda.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] tried adjusting line weight in a way to remain stylistic while also still being consistent throughout. any thoughts?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 27 00:12:11 2018 No.3655794 >>3655764 Are you absolutely certain? Is there no "bad" time spent drawing?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 27 00:13:43 2018 No.3655795 >>3655427 Keep working on smoothing your lines. Add some shadows to the eyes to reduce creepiness. If you don't shade, don't define the entire outline of the lips. Did you work from a photograph?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 27 00:14:23 2018 No.3655797 >>3655794 well there is a difference between drawing for pleasure and drawing to learn. both help, but one increases skill a bit faster.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 27 00:15:47 2018 No.3655799 >>3655782 pretty good. I think you'd benefit from defining the bottom of the nose a little more. Generally it's the darkest part of the nose so leaving it blank looks a little odd. Also fill out them lips

Anonymous Sat Oct 27 00:33:38 2018 No.3655815

>>3655752
I'll give that a try. That drawing, and yesterday's, were to test the knoweldge I've acquired through Hampton's book, and my own studying since he does a horrible job explaining legs, so the groups are all lined. But using transitions for forms, via smudge or hatching, is a good idea. I've got some tortillions laying around, so I can use those.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 27 00:34:16 2018 No.3655817 Digital is convenient but feels bad (tried and returned an intuos pro) Traditional I like the feeling better but it is inconvenient How to choose which one?

Anonymous Sat Oct 27 00:37:25 2018 No.3655821

>>3655794
to be general, no. drawing is a much greater use of your time than watching a movie for instance or eating at a restaurant. it will train you to draw frequently, sharpen your perception of drawing, and make the processes of drawing more natural to you. this is all without focus on technical improvement BUT, that isnt to say you shouldnt focus on technicalities. Read, look at art, think about how to make art better, and then do the drawing again, but the point is !! thats the Easy part. the hard part is picking up the pencil for four hours a day. if you have that then you have only to focus those efforts on improvement and youll be good.

Anonymous Sat Oct 27 00:40:15 2018 No.3655824

>>3655815
its quite importance to not over use line, line is a rarity in good drawings. not to sound too negative but about 80 percent of the lines in that drawing shouldnt be defined lines and should be just value areas. that being said the forms pretty good

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 27 01:06:11 2018 No.3655847 >>3655725 good yse this to your advantage.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 27 01:14:40 2018 No.3655850 File: 296 KB, 1699x1805, LeMario.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Any obvious problems with this one? Pretty proud, one of the best things I´ve done from imagination

Anonymous Sat Oct 27 01:15:53 2018 No.3655852
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I'm going to do Bargue plates in addition to my regular routine of fucking around and applying fundamentals to it. I just want to see what it will do for me and feel like I'm doing something easily measurable. I'll report back after I get a board and do the first plate or three. My portraits and figures need some tough love.

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Anonymous Sat Oct 27 03:13:01 2018 No.3655915

>>3655526
The paper your using doesn't seem to agree with your pencil. What kind of pencil do you have? maybe switch to a softer one.

If this is newsprint paper, it's pretty much impossible to use graphite on it. So switch to maybe charcoal or different paper.

Anonymous Sat Oct 27 03:25:31 2018 No.3655924

>>3655907
Need more fundies.
First. You need to learn to:
>flip/mirror your canvas horizontally
>learn anatomy(Use reference photos to learn)
>learn line weight

For now your piece is garbage restart from scratch again. As long as you learn you will be good in no time.

Anonymous Sat Oct 27 03:30:46 2018 No.3655927

>>3655119
>Also is more hours in a day beneficial to studies or best to limit the times spent each day per subject.

Think of it like taking a class. There's only so much information you can retain in a day on a subject. Don't overload yourself with too much information on one day or you risk not remembering any of it the next. Having set times for studies will make your studies more focused. Like 30 mins for gesture, 30 mins for studying heads, etc. Then have a limit to how much time overall you spend studying.

There's a theory about how to add things into your long term memory bank. Instead of daily review, you do intervals which grow longer. So every two days, read a book on observation, then review it 4 days later, then couple of weeks later, and so on. Incrementally, you learn to recall the information for the long term.

It's also good to sleep on things and allow your brain to soak in the information. Also learn to think like an artist on the go. Observe even when you're not drawing.

>Is it better to stick to one book and complete it before tackling the other or okay to do it this way.
Depends. You'll have to figure out what's relevant to learn each day.

Burnout is a thing. Don't rush yourself through the beginning. Remember that learning to draw is a slow process and will take a long time, so pace yourself.

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>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 27 03:45:54 2018 No.3655942 How old were you when you first started drawing? I'm 27 and I feel so overwhelmed.

Anonymous Sat Oct 27 04:11:56 2018 No.3655960
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>>3655927
>Underrated post
You are doing god's work.

>>3655850
I've been doing gestures drawings lately so I'm up for this! I liked your idea anon, foreshortening the thumb like so I always wanted to try, I still feel is tricky and pretty much fake my way through that lol but I did a critique on what I felt was the most bothersome points. Also added a gesture I tried on my own from the top of my head, take it with a grain of salt.
I'm in the mood for superhero shit lately, having fun!

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 27 04:13:36 2018 No.3655961 >>3655942 That's just the learning curve for anything.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 27 04:34:37 2018 No.3655989 >>3655942 7 or 8 I finally got good this year

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 27 04:43:25 2018 No.3655995 >>3655112 my old art teacher killed himself and his wife this week. he helped me through some really tough times as a kid. I want to draw cartoons in his honor. anyone know any good online references to start? he really liked marvel.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 27 04:48:35 2018 No.3655999 >>3655960 very cool

Anonymous Sat Oct 27 04:52:45 2018 No.3656004
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>>3655942
I actually painted with oils before I had clear memories, someone on my family was a photographer/painter and I went there as a kid so they let me do stuff. But, I vaguely remember having a bad experience with some oil painting I was doing and stopped drawing or painting until I was 20, when I picked it up as a hobby. I drew until I was 22 or so without studying or training, and started to dislike whatever I did. So I went around searching for how to improve, that was when I came across /ic/ for the first time I guess. So from there I started fundies and shit. Got burnt out after a few months, quit, got back at next year, my stuff had improved just from those months so I started again fundies and drawing for fun, picked up painting and started doing still lifes. Got burnt around 24, and went to do other stuff like 3D modeling-sculpting, programming and also finishing my degree in some other field. So I didn't draw much until a few months back, when I picked it up again after a couple of years of not doing anything art related. I'm now 28.
So, my track record is a mess, but I think all those trips and falling and going around in circles have taught me a lot about many other things, mainly how to learn, how to structure my time, how to fail.

I guess I'll leave a sketch of something I'm working on now, my designs are pretty much /beg/ and because of the above I'm currently going over again all /beg/ stuff to bring me up to shape and correct/learn all the things I might had missed.
I also did >>3655960 comment.
Just keep it up anon. If you feel overwhelmed, just stop fundies and either work on something that makes you have fun or some other art related field, maybe change your media (use watercolors or crayons). Don't quit for too long, keep it steady, but everyone needs rest. Controlled procrastination is useful, out of control is not, neither is burning out, actually if you work too hard you will start to lose efficiency, every industry knows that fact.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 27 05:00:41 2018 No.3656008 File: 373 KB, 1000x750, 20181027_165430.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I drew this train It's pretty bad

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 27 05:21:01 2018 No.3656017 >>3656008 Your light values are too light, but not bad overall. You just need to check your values against the reference more closely.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 27 07:45:51 2018 No.3656115 File: 255 KB, 1000x887, 1516835624460.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] how it do

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 27 07:46:43 2018 No.3656116 >>3656115 the sphere looks off

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 27 07:48:23 2018 No.3656120 >>3656115 The cube's shadow is fucked.

Anonymous Sat Oct 27 11:11:17 2018 No.3656242

>>3655915
It's newsprint, yes. I'm not entirely fond of how charcoal needs to be sharpened, so what kind of paper would you recommend, that I can buy in bulk, to to large practice on?
I use HB 2mm for the lay in, and 2B 2mm for the work on top of that.

>>3655824
You got any guides on that? Because again, I need to make it clear that the picture wasn't intended to be realistic. I've been practicing identifying, and inventing, the specific muscle groups and forms, so by proxy the edges of the groups were lined.

Anonymous Sat Oct 27 11:26:39 2018 No.3656254

>>3655434
that seems a bit creepy. do girls like creepy stuff like that?>>3655795
>Add some shadows to the eyes to reduce creepiness. If you don't shade, don't define the entire outline of the lips.
im starting to consider light shading at the sketching stage these days. lips are especially weird looking with just lines and sometimes forms dont quite look right when you render them out and need tweaking so its better to get that out of the way before its a problem. i used lots of pics of the person to form an expression i wanted that there isnt an exact ref of. ive been painting it (will post later maybe). it's actually coming together okay and i think it actually looks like the girl im trying to draw but then again i could just be deluding myself.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 27 11:56:13 2018 No.3656281 >>3656254 Why didn't you say you made her creepy on purpose? You fucking nailed it, dude. I can confidently say your drawings will never bring joy to a single person in life. Nice work!

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 27 11:58:01 2018 No.3656283 >>3656242 >I need to make it clear that the picture wasn't intended to be realistic you'll love Hogarth

Anonymous Sat Oct 27 12:06:34 2018 No.3656290

>>3656115
Looks great, nice work keeping your angles consistent, nice job on the bounced light and shading. That other anon is right, the sphere looks off. I don’t expect anyone to be able to make a perfect circle, but yeah you could get it closer.

If you put all those forms together and make something and you may actually start impressing people.

Anonymous Sat Oct 27 12:11:46 2018 No.3656295
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>>3653562
>>3653570
>>3653574
>>3653576
>>3653587
>>3653688
>>3653760
>>3653857
t-thanks for the feedback. I know it's awful, but I won't stop.
I have fix her face and this's current progress, I will colour them soon
tell me what do you think

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 27 12:21:37 2018 No.3656301 >>3656295 I don't wanna be harsh, but at this point you're just polishing a turd. It's time to stop. Go back to studying fundies.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 27 12:31:26 2018 No.3656308 File: 70 KB, 576x996, IMG_20181027_122300.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3655824 How's this?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 27 12:45:26 2018 No.3656328 >>3655942 about 6 or 7. but it was more of a "i dont wanna do much with this" i was on and off of drawing. i didnt really start the real practice until dec 2017

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 27 12:47:29 2018 No.3656330 >>3656295 >looks dangerously similar to >>3655322

Anonymous Sat Oct 27 15:18:49 2018 No.3656501

I came up with this snazzy twist on blind contour drawing. You put a hardcover book so the corner touches the center of the page. Then when you're doing your blind contour drawing, you can just feel your way back to the center if you lose your place. Is it snazzy? Will it turn me into Junji Ito?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 27 15:55:55 2018 No.3656558 File: 318 KB, 786x1233, fencegirl.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] scoopin refs from /s/

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 27 15:56:28 2018 No.3656559 File: 194 KB, 683x1077, 1540463859359.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3656558

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 27 16:14:06 2018 No.3656577 >>3656295 Don't stop drawing, but start OVER please.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 27 16:23:59 2018 No.3656584 >>3656559 she's got so little ass that a void appeared between her asscheecks

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 27 17:19:03 2018 No.3656651 File: 286 KB, 1253x937, eyes4.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] it is okay to move on from eyes?

Anonymous Sat Oct 27 17:36:58 2018 No.3656663

>>3656651
Dude do not treat one part of the body as "done" where you can move on from. The body is complicated and you will have to come back to things later. Art is a grind that seriously almost never ends.

Al tough the answer is yes you can move on but you will have to come back much later anyways.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 27 17:40:01 2018 No.3656667 >>3656663 okay thank you

Anonymous Sat Oct 27 17:41:57 2018 No.3656670
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An interesting challenge. Not particularly sure how to work with hair in the negative. The details are so much finer then what I have drawn. I'm guessing the real limitation on my part was that I worked too small. This entire scan is the size of my palm. I'd have to either go through mind-crushing meticulous scrutiny or deal with what I got.

I also forgot to work a bit on the lips before scanning.

Any tips or feedback is appreciated.

Anonymous Sat Oct 27 17:42:29 2018 No.3656671

>>3656651
>>3656663
Um. No, I don't think the eyes are very good. The eyelashes jut out sometimes, which is the most obvious symptom of symbol drawing. Please watch Proko videos, do Asaro heads, read the relevant section of Michael Hampton's Figure Drawing book.

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Anonymous Sat Oct 27 17:47:46 2018 No.3656678
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This used to be posted right after the OP, not sure what happened.
ESSENTIALS:

>>>/ic/thread/3023643
Links to many art books including as Keys to Drawing (Dodson), Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain (Edwards), Perspective Made Easy (Norling), Color and Light (Gurney), The Vilppu Drawing Manual (Vilppu) and How to Draw (Robertson).

>http://ctrlpaint.com
A website dedicated to understanding the basics and process of digital painting, based in Adobe Photoshop. Library of over 200 free videos.

>http://quickposes.com
Free pose library to practice drawing the human figure (as well as a portrait library). Draw at your own pace or set a timer for quick gesture drawings.

>http://youtube.com/user/ProkoTV
Instructional how-to videos covering mostly portrait and figure drawing from fine artist Stanislav Prokopenko.

>https://www.youtube.com/user/onairvideo
Croquis Cafe - Timed model poses.

>http://drawabox.com
Controversial yet helpful introductory course on the fundamentals of drawing with a focus on understanding the concept of form and thinking in a 3-dimensional mindset while you draw.

>Your local life drawing class
Life drawing is an indispensable tool in your art career. Do not be intimidated based on your skill level - there will always be someone worse than you and someone better than you. Use this opportunity to meet new artists for learning, critique, and growth.

Anonymous Sat Oct 27 17:54:35 2018 No.3656686

>>3656671
each of those I spent no more then 15secs on each of those
the eyelashes weren't a concern as they are time consuming to draw
not trying to sound like a dick, but this was to make sure the anatomy of the eye was right, and they were conveying emotion, as well as try to see other styles here and there, not waste time on details, the few that have eyelashes was me trying to find out where the eyelashes would be or for the make the more stylized look feminine

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 27 17:59:18 2018 No.3656694 >>3656686 Are you doing Sycra's iterative drawing thing? That's fine for experimentation and troubleshooting, but no one can tell if you're good at drawing eyes from 15 second doodles. Also premature stylization as a beginner is bad.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 27 18:03:52 2018 No.3656705 >>3656694 >Are you doing Sycra's iterative drawing thing? yes.. I thought you were supposed to draw fast, so you get more out there, get better faster, ultimately adding up to being able to draw well quickly

Anonymous Sat Oct 27 18:10:36 2018 No.3656718

>>3656686
Refer to the triangle of skills

Speed, Quality, Cost (Accuracy).

You want to get a good accuracy first, then you want to work on your quality, lastly you go for speed.

Accuracy and Quality are roughly the same when trying to copy exactly what you see. But when working with stylization you can separate them.

Anonymous Sat Oct 27 18:12:05 2018 No.3656724
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>>3656670
That isn't bad for a start. But please push the dark areas darker the more value range you can put into it the better it will look. Either get a softer pencil or do some value crosshatching/shading studies with your current pencil in case you haven't before to see how you can produce different vale of greys and blacks and how dark can you push it. If you look at it from far away it would barely be visible (it cold be the scanning too but I don't think so.) If your pencils is just too hard get a softer one.

On the image, the mouth and the right side eye are not in a parallel line with each other with the chin. While the photo does have them almost parallel. The head is slightly longer than your pic and that caused the neck to be squished as well the hairline goes past the left eye.

Be careful while rendering the details it is extremely easy to just loos symmetry and all the basic shapes your sketch had while rendering without noticing it. Take breaks put your pick down and look at it from afar frequently, this is basic practice. You will be able to recognize your mistakes much yourself much faster.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 27 18:17:29 2018 No.3656731 >>3656724 Thanks for the feed back lad. I do have some 2B and 4B pencils. I'll try using them in my next sketch.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 27 18:24:34 2018 No.3656740 File: 147 KB, 666x666, doodle.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] rate my doodle

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 27 18:26:54 2018 No.3656742 I'm 26 and have always wanted to be able to draw (was good at it for a kid but then completely stopped). How good could I become at it if I started now in say 3 years, 5 years etc? Too late for me?

Anonymous Sat Oct 27 18:27:31 2018 No.3656743

>>3656705
I find myself doing tons of thumbnail sketches on scratch paper when I don't know how to draw something, but you have to understand that there's also the classical school of thought - nature is the best teacher, if you can't copy it accurately, how are you going to be able to study it?
But um, if you still want to try this technique out, there's a way to make it work. It's the Feng Zhu challenge, "Just Draw", something you'll be able to find in the archives. Start off with rocks, then trees, then animal skulls, insects, looking at past examples to see what works and what doesn't. A lot of room for experimentation. Or you could do Keys to Drawing too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 27 18:30:29 2018 No.3656748 >>3656742 You could be decent in as little as a year with structured practice. Look up the Charles bargue course if youre looking to master pencil/charcoal and your ability to see proportion.

Anonymous Sat Oct 27 18:31:55 2018 No.3656751
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>>3656742
This is me in three years of no discipline, just doing the basic fundamental shit, going wherever, no real classes, drawing an hour or two a day for two weeks then taking off two weeks.

Essentially, a very low minimum effort across three-years.

This is mine >>3656670 >>3653827

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 27 18:32:15 2018 No.3656752 File: 304 KB, 1254x954, yeh.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] :/

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 27 18:34:24 2018 No.3656754 Seems like the majority of practice here is on human subjects. What if I want to mostly learn landscapes? Do I need to grind out a bunch of people?

Anonymous Sat Oct 27 18:38:20 2018 No.3656757

>>3656752
You're having trouble with accuracy. Remember to use the measuring methods outlined in the /beg/ sticky. You can trace the photo to see what your drawing should look like. You can also copy anime lineart until the copies are good enough for you to fap to. Keep at it.

Anonymous Sat Oct 27 18:39:33 2018 No.3656758
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>>3656752
You have construction issues, which I'm sure someone else is going to point out. What I want to point out is that in the areas you've seemed to spend the most time (eyes/midface) the values are completely off. The reference's eyes are almost as dark as her under-eyes due to the cast shadow.

Anonymous Sat Oct 27 18:39:43 2018 No.3656759

>>3656742
It is never too late to begin drawing unless yo uare so old that your health prevents you. drawing is sometimes mystified but it is a pretty basic skill (like riding a bike just a lot more complex) that can be learned through just understanding the basics and adding a LOT of practice. It mostly depends on how much time and effort are you able/willing to commit to it. In just one year you can improve by leaps an bounds if you study and do the grind because let us face it, at the core art is a grind with a lot of repetition and a lot of failures. In 3 years you can do great improvements if you are working with a guided effort and not just stumbling around.

Bottom line, it depends solely on how much work you are able/willing to put into it.

Anonymous Sat Oct 27 18:40:45 2018 No.3656760

>>3656754
You would want to draw rocks and trees. Try tracing them first until you can figure out how to make it look pretty - what details to exclude, how to simplify a ton of leaves or cracks. You definitely want to look at the past Feng Zhu Just Draw threads in the archive.

Anonymous Sat Oct 27 18:43:16 2018 No.3656763
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Hello beg. How did i do on this exercise from drawabox? I was trying to do a chainmail texture on the last end, but it didn't turn out so well, and i got frustrated and scribbled it out like an idiot. Anyway, here it is and have a good day.

Anonymous Sat Oct 27 18:46:49 2018 No.3656770

>>3656754
>Seems like the majority of practice here is on human subjects. What if I want to mostly learn landscapes? Do I need to grind out a bunch of people?

You do not have to draw people, drawing still life and landscapes are just as valid. People just like drawing people because it is just more interesting, Also people are quite complexly structured things and yet easily available subjects than a landscape. Also because it is generally faces are used to the measure on someone's skill when academics are concerned.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 27 18:53:46 2018 No.3656777 >>3656743 alright, i'll look into it

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 27 19:33:51 2018 No.3656806 What are the best channels for watching people draw with little to no commentary?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 27 19:59:15 2018 No.3656824 >>3656806 Nothing too technical. He just talks to talk. You can mute the videos and nothing will be lost. https://www.youtube.com/user/xym779/videos

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 27 21:38:07 2018 No.3656884 Instead of never erasing or erasing all the time, what if we just erased in moderation? Wow good idea

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 27 21:43:14 2018 No.3656890 >>3656884 I control+z every line that doesn't look good. I'm like an AI.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 27 21:52:32 2018 No.3656893 File: 119 KB, 1155x690, heads practice1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] some head studies from Huston

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 27 22:29:56 2018 No.3656908 File: 66 KB, 800x800, drawed.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] check out my fisticuffs

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 27 23:10:16 2018 No.3656931 Is 10 minutes of gesture drawing and one completed drawabox exercise enough daily practice for a beginner? I want to improve my art but I dont want to aimlessly draw.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 27 23:43:45 2018 No.3656953 >>3655942 19. Started trying to draw seriously at 20, but it took me another two years after that to really get my bearings and know how to approach drawing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 27 23:51:03 2018 No.3656957 >>3656931 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egCx3dgGYDI

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 27 23:58:25 2018 No.3656965 >>3655942 17. 22 now and still beg tier.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 00:16:41 2018 No.3656986 File: 1.20 MB, 2078x2598, IMG_20181028_001040_468.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I would like to work in the fashion industry. Can i make it?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 00:21:14 2018 No.3656990 >>3656986 yeah. more fundies tho

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 00:27:25 2018 No.3656994 >>3656986 Yes

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 04:22:31 2018 No.3657168 >>3656931 Yes it is, I have done it too and it helps on the long run you just have to be persistent about it and no give up after 2 weeks. I had to restart it several times until it finally stuck then it stuck for at least a year .

Anonymous Sun Oct 28 04:27:25 2018 No.3657174

>>3656884
Start to do it on paper an with ink only without pencil sketch/lineart. It is super scary and it will feel like torture at first but it will brute force you to improve quickly trust me. I did it and it was hell but I forced myself through it and now I feel much more confident even if just drawing with ink. Yes drawing like are still pretty shitty but now I can feel much more analytical and thoughtful l about what I put down instead of just tearing into it becasue I can ears anything.

I implore you try that challenge, it is a nightmare at first but if you can force through it pays off.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 04:31:23 2018 No.3657176 >>3657174 you brute force your practice too? you poor soul i know your pain. its unlike anything ive felt. (i still suck by the way compared to my rival) but thats the tiny edge i have over him. unrelenting practice.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 04:50:19 2018 No.3657183 >>3657176 Stay strong brother! Keep a it, I promise it will pay off!

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 04:56:39 2018 No.3657185 File: 46 KB, 800x800, Someday I'm gonna make it.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] God, why why WHY every drawing I make alternates between looking pretty good and looking okayish but really messed up in some major areas.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 05:12:53 2018 No.3657194 File: 89 KB, 600x375, improvement2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3657185 You just said it. Alternates. Keep at it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 05:17:57 2018 No.3657205 >>3657194 It just frustrates me because I can't tell if I'm actually good or if it was a fluke, especially when my bad art looks no better than shit I drew when I was 15

Anonymous Sun Oct 28 05:52:32 2018 No.3657227

>>3657205
Hmm, well good and bad are relative. Your worst might be better than someone else best, and your best much worse than another worst. So actually good, no.
Now if you aren't happy with what you do, it probably means your observational is just further than your technique, now at which "step of proficiency" are you in? You have to compare yourself to someone you want to become as or you admire. You compare some of their works to yours, does it look similar or close in quality? Then you are of similar skill. If you still see yours stand out in a bad way or just feel worse than the goal artwork, you know you are behind them. Try to be honest with yourself when you do those checks, don't despair or gloat depending on your results.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 06:08:49 2018 No.3657241 File: 109 KB, 440x572, ass.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] do I have hope anons?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 07:02:41 2018 No.3657281 >>3657241 are you gonna keep drawing?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 07:41:23 2018 No.3657311 File: 547 KB, 600x894, poofu.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] this shit is so hard wtf

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 08:10:38 2018 No.3657328 >>3657311 Keep pushing buddy it's looking good. Pay more attention to values, proportions and shapes.

Anonymous Sun Oct 28 08:17:16 2018 No.3657336

>>3657205
one of the things for me that really sparks the ol' pleasure centers in my brain is when I start noticing at least 1 image on my page of shit actually shine through more than the others - when that's consistent, I am happy. Doing larger/whole pieces gives me a sense of joy from completing, but when just practicing and/or doodling noticing that 1 picture that I actually created the shapes well, had good values and anatomy and shit like that - even if it was just a shitty doodle, thats what makes me feel gud.
for me as long as I continue to pump through pages and spot at least 1 picture on it that makes me :) then I know I ~am~ improving, and not stagnating or being a deviant artist.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 09:49:03 2018 No.3657401 File: 143 KB, 1000x676, halp me.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] been practicing values, but it feels like i dont have any control over my brush. any tips on value or brush settings would be awesome.

Anonymous Sun Oct 28 11:36:45 2018 No.3657498
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Did the Keys to Drawing exercise for drawing a pepper by memory then observation. Do i have to use the subjects written for these exercises or can i substitute with others, while i just try to use what the lesson is teaching?

Also I want to draw in pen and ink later on, but a later chapter suggests drawing these in different mediums. Will it benefit me if I do or just stick to pen and ink?

Anonymous Sun Oct 28 11:38:07 2018 No.3657500

What are good ways to color an inked drawing traditionally? I'm a poorfag, so I can't just throw money at everything and see what works. The cheapest choice, colored pencils, seems to not stick out enough against solid black lines. Copic markers look cool but are on the expensive side if I want to have any decent choice of colors.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 11:39:24 2018 No.3657503 >>3657498 stick to whatever medium you want to use the most. and you can use whatever object you like for the teaching

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 11:51:47 2018 No.3657511 >>3657500 ink and water color can always look nice. pretty cheap as well

Anonymous Sun Oct 28 11:53:57 2018 No.3657513

>>3657498
I see no discernible point into sticking to one thing for ever and ever. You can like ink, but using graphite can contribute to your inking capability (for example, the ability to create shapes of you values which for ink would be very beneficial).
I too, prefer ink, but I use pencils more than ink because they can let me make mistakes while not entirely ruining what I am doing - but at least letting me learn.

In any case, Anon, esp if you're /beg/ - open your net as wide as you possibly can and learn from as much as you can. You can always have favourites.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 12:38:54 2018 No.3657562 File: 232 KB, 1000x676, oofff.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] how do I paint a beard?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 12:51:26 2018 No.3657578 >>3657336 Yeah, I guess I can take that. I do always feels better when I see an image that turned out alright.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 12:54:56 2018 No.3657580 Realistically, how good can someone get going from /beg/ tier if they draw and paint for 8 hours a day every day in two years?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 12:58:11 2018 No.3657592 File: 424 KB, 1000x800, compare.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3657580 well i didnt draw for 8 hours a day but 2 years is still quite alot of time to improve.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 12:58:45 2018 No.3657595 >>3657580 okayish

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 12:59:23 2018 No.3657598 >>3657580 Pro tier.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 12:59:49 2018 No.3657599 >>3657592 both look like shit

Anonymous Sun Oct 28 13:04:23 2018 No.3657606

>>3657580
Pretty good, easily commission tier 2 years is a lot of time. Provided you also have some plan/guidance to direct you and push your comfort zone to try new things reasonable often. You can just get into an aimless circle and draw the same thing all the time and every time because you get comfortable with it. There are tons of beginner artists that hit a certain level and stay at it for one reason or a another, either they get too busy, they break down, they decided that it is enough or they they just don't know where to go. When hit a wall (which you will hit multiple times, trust me) you need the will and direction to push through.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 13:06:11 2018 No.3657611 >>3657599 that might be the case, but i was just showing an example senpai

Anonymous Sun Oct 28 13:09:17 2018 No.3657615

>>3657580
It's better to realistically describe a realistic scenario, just ps.
no one is realistically gonna be able to draw/paint 8 hours a day every single again, especially starting from /beg/. Gonna be a lot of learning, frustration, watching and learning instead of doing and learning, etc.
But, realistically, working hard for 2 years, irrelevant of an arbitrary amount of hours put in, will get you very excellent results.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 13:15:21 2018 No.3657624 >>3657611 It's not much of an example if you've "improved" from shit to shit.

Anonymous Sun Oct 28 13:20:05 2018 No.3657628

>>3657580
Others have gone pro in less but i can tell you that unless you change how you think about it you're ngmi. People who go from shit to fantastic in a year do it not because they're thinking about how many hours they need to practice to be good but they draw all the time cause they enjoy it. They're the type of people to always be drawing in their free time for fun instead of playing video games or watching a movie. Sure its not bad to do those things but remember the next time you could be drawing and you don't is it because you think it's a boring chore and just don't want to work or because you've been drawing so much and enjoying yourself and now you're giving your brain a break.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 13:24:15 2018 No.3657634 >>3657624 that wasn't the point, I showed an example so the asker could come to his own conclusions

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 13:27:33 2018 No.3657636 >>3657634 You sure your brain is working right?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 13:38:23 2018 No.3657647 >>3657628 That's the way I think now, I just wanted to give a time reference (2 years) and amount of dedication to it (hours a day) and ask others what their progress has been in similar circumstances

Anonymous Sun Oct 28 13:43:04 2018 No.3657651
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>>3657562
Look it up at the internet there are tons of tutorials for painting hair and fur.

Treat beard and hair as a solid mass first and block it as you would do with any other mass. Then you can vary things up a bit, start wit ah bigger softer brush, add both lighter and darker areas of the local tone, mix it up and push the values apart. Then add a a uniform midtone above to stop the separate hair from being too distinctly visible, the finally ad a few distinct hairs with a sharped ton and a thin brush. This is just one way I made up randomly, there are myriad of other better ways to do this

DO NOT, try to put in ever strand of hair wit ha thing brush. That doesn't work, it is inefficient and unnecessary and results are pretty meh.

Anonymous Sun Oct 28 13:46:08 2018 No.3657656

>>3657647
I know you don't think like that because you're trying to quantify results. Cause if you did you'd stop worrying about how much others have improved and how must you should be improving and you would just draw. And when you wanted to draw something and didn't know how you'd look it up then two years from now you'd realize you aren't really shit after all because you've just been drawing and it so happens you got better while doing it.

Anonymous Sun Oct 28 13:52:41 2018 No.3657669

>>3657647
Not the other anon but I feel is unreliable that you look at it that way, so if someone in 2 years reaches grandmaster skill meanwhile others get stuck on /beg/ to say something, how are you going to react if you don't follow either or fall in between? It's like trying to sell the skin of a bear before hunting it.

You have 2 years and time, set yourself some long term goal like copying someone painting or painting as someone you admire, set yourself smaller time goals like, for next week I'd do X hours of anatomy study, or perspective, or completed 50 drawings of cats.
Enjoy completing smaller goals and keep them to track your progress, remember what's your long term goal and keep working on achieving that.
The progress you make, depends on the individual. Make marginal adjustments to your goals to set a pacing you enjoy or that gives you results, crank it if you are confident.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 14:26:18 2018 No.3657726 Get in here boys >>3657698

Anonymous Sun Oct 28 15:05:39 2018 No.3657769
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>>3657647

It 100% matters on what you're drawing and how you're studying; an hour drawing a person in front of you with an instructor helping you will affect you a lot differently from an hour trying to paint spongebob from memory.

that said if you want another example here's my progress in two years averaging probably a bit less than an hour a day. you'd be way better than me but you have to love the fuck out of working your ass off. if my advice is worth anything focusing on developing good study habits and a love of drawing for the sake of it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 15:08:36 2018 No.3657775 File: 254 KB, 500x500, gesture.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] bros am I gonna make it? I started drawing last week

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 15:13:44 2018 No.3657783 File: 30 KB, 450x253, censored-austalira-kangaroo-facebook-controversy__oPt.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3657775 smooth out your lines. The chicken scratching will do no good, but for starting last week, you're well on your way

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 15:28:40 2018 No.3657802 >>3657783 do you really think so? I've been using the 2 minute timer on quickposes from the sticky

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 15:59:59 2018 No.3657850 File: 106 KB, 500x500, Redline 1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3657802 I think you just need to look at some bone structure and how the proportions match up

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 16:01:05 2018 No.3657852 >>3657802 It looks like there's something there but its really hard to tell when it's covered in scratches. So try to be more confident in your lines.

Anonymous Sun Oct 28 16:04:28 2018 No.3657857

>>3657775
if you're doing gesture drawings, following contours isn't the right idea.
also agree with the chicken scratching comment, that should always be untrained
watch some people do gestures to see how they're done, for example ya boi vilppu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOtVUHgJqQk&

Anonymous Sun Oct 28 16:15:33 2018 No.3657879
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>>3657802
That is good, try to make your poses with less lines. It will make you more confident in your lines and forces you to be more efficient. Using as few lines as possible also lessens the strain on your arm/hand which is a factor you should keep in mind.

Quickposes is about being quick with capturing the basic construction of the body and thus building your familiarity with how it is build how it looks, moves and behaves. Details are not needed nor important, if you find yourself having extra time to make details then it you should consider lowering your timer.

Here is how I used to do it. First just put down the general positions of the body head, pelvis. foot Second find the key directions and places of the limbs and the spine using the point on the first. Third block them and build the shape. Fourth, minor details but that is as far as you need to go.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 16:29:51 2018 No.3657901 >>3657185 Everything is appealing except the arms and hands. Just watch the Proko video to pick up the anatomy and grind until they're good.

Anonymous Sun Oct 28 16:36:05 2018 No.3657904
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practicing figures from imagination, starting with line of action and then building forms around it. improvising the pose without a pre-established purpose or context in mind.
please rate these on:
proportional accuracy of the figure
stiffness or rigidity

and also suggest any ways i could improve if you can.
thanks in advance

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 16:37:03 2018 No.3657906 Any exercises to practice line quality when drawing digitally? Despite my best efforts my straight lines always tremble a little, I can't understand if it's because of the medium/I'm doing something wrong or if I'm just bad and should practice more.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 16:38:35 2018 No.3657907 >>3657906 Are you using stabilization? No matter how accurate you are there's always going to be a slight jitter, which stabilization settings are meant to correct.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 16:42:00 2018 No.3657910 >>3657901 Yeah, I figured as much. My arms and hands always look tack on for some reason.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 16:43:14 2018 No.3657912 >>3657907 I can't seem to find anything of the sort in the tablet drivers. I'm using a new intuos.

Anonymous Sun Oct 28 16:44:02 2018 No.3657914

>>3657904
Well rating each of them would be a bit of work but I think you are getting them alright overall in both proportion and gesture. If you want to improve, try putting yourself on some of those positions and see if you can do what they are doing, or how would you put yourself to make the pose more comfortable or add more action, then try to change them see if the match with what you feel when you do them!

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 16:45:35 2018 No.3657917 >>3657914 >exclamation mark opinion discarded

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 16:46:15 2018 No.3657919 File: 69 KB, 617x549, gha.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] how do y'all deal with colour balance?? my art looks fucking different on every screen i see and idk how to make the changes in colour less drastic and more subtle

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 16:47:41 2018 No.3657922 >>3657174 >woah dude have you heard of drawabox it's the craziest thing

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 16:48:55 2018 No.3657926 >>3657906 if your straight lines using pen and paper don't tremble, it's not you

Anonymous Sun Oct 28 16:49:55 2018 No.3657928

>>3657917
Suit yourself, I was trying to be cheerful about it.

>>3657919
You can't do anything about that. Can't control how other people calibrate or not their monitors and even if they are correctly, all monitors have different specs that will make the appearance of an image vary.
Only thing you can do is calibrate correctly your workstation and your printer if you use one, and print your work and show it to people, that's the only real way to ensure the colors you put match with what you would like people to see.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 16:51:36 2018 No.3657929 >>3657912 I think stabilization is handled at the program level. For example, CSP has individual sliders for stabilization of each brush.

Anonymous Sun Oct 28 17:12:28 2018 No.3657945
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>>3657919
Every monitor has different settings that is just how it is :P

On this picture your value range on the skin is too low, even the darkest shades on the skin aren't even past halfway down the color palette. The wide is the value range you are able to put on your picture while the better it will look.

This most likely comes from you working with a white background, remember the background has powerful effect on how we perceive the colors on the picture.

Instead of working with a pure white background I strong suggest you try working with darker backgrounds when you color which are easier on the eyes and you will be able to more naturally add darker colors to the picture.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 17:15:08 2018 No.3657946 >>3657926 >>3657929 I tried looking into it, since I use photoshop I think I need a plugin called lazynezumi, does anyone else use it? Is there any way to use it wrong/will it lead to bad habits?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 17:18:20 2018 No.3657950 >>3657945 holy shit thanks gonna give it a go

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 17:21:47 2018 No.3657955 File: 91 KB, 562x1000, 20181028_221343.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] did this thing I won't draw weeb shit for a while now

Anonymous Sun Oct 28 17:29:58 2018 No.3657969
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>>3657950
for the sake of demonstration here is the original picture with an 50% grey bg. It is practically glowing. when you start coloring try to pic a darker color that is roughly similar to the bg's or ideally somewhere around 30-50% towards black (unless you need to have darkness or something.) That way you have plenty of room to go both brighter and darker.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 17:43:30 2018 No.3657995 File: 130 KB, 1280x720, WIN_20181028_16_40_49_Pro.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] here's some i "think" i did ok on. i do 80 gestures daily but im running low on paper 1 of x

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 17:44:02 2018 No.3657997 File: 138 KB, 1280x720, WIN_20181028_16_41_44_Pro.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3657995 2 of x

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 17:50:28 2018 No.3658006 File: 85 KB, 571x715, WIN_20181028_16_48_44_Pro.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3657997 >>3657995 3 of x; if you see even a LITTLE bit of "flow" thats all i gotta know to determine if im going in the right direction.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 17:52:38 2018 No.3658008 >>3656008 i dont share this opinion anon

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 18:00:10 2018 No.3658012 File: 162 KB, 657x900, Untitled-1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] drawing some kill la kill fan art

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 18:12:18 2018 No.3658020 >>3657955 I like it anon, simple but cute

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 18:17:40 2018 No.3658027 To avoid symbol drawing and to learn anatomy should I start with gestures until I'm good at them, or do I focus on proportions by themselves? How do I learn them?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 18:57:27 2018 No.3658060 File: 307 KB, 1017x1271, IMG_20181026_002448_709.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3655112 This is my best

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 19:10:11 2018 No.3658074 File: 180 KB, 921x1259, 16651badb0f19e5d84fcdbe005bab207.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3658060

Anonymous Sun Oct 28 19:26:57 2018 No.3658096
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I dont know if this is the right thread or even board but i have recently started editing pics/gifs and am confused while editing some gifs. I am trying to give some transparent backgrounds but sometimes the frames show up very pix-elated and when i remove the background it gets even more messed up. This is the original gif.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 19:33:05 2018 No.3658102 File: 117 KB, 710x650, SCAN0164.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] WIP

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 19:39:40 2018 No.3658108 File: 1.80 MB, 4032x3024, 8C4C5C31-D00E-480A-95AE-13F4A071DF02.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] My submission for the nengajo contest that I am working on

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 19:41:49 2018 No.3658111 >>3658108 it would be so much better if it were watercoloured instead of scribbled with coloured pencil

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 19:43:45 2018 No.3658115 >>3658108 Central america?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 20:31:55 2018 No.3658156 File: 356 KB, 1500x1500, gesture1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3657775 Same anon here, is this better than earlier today? Been drawing a lot and really trying

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 20:35:05 2018 No.3658159 >>3658156 much beter

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 21:04:15 2018 No.3658173 >tfw Fun With a Pencil is too advanced for me Please help. I need something really basic or I'll never improve. I just can't get the hang of these circles.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 21:08:34 2018 No.3658180 >>3658173 The point is to draw and get used to moving your pencil. Not to draw a perfect circle. Get the idea of perfection out of your head.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 21:12:57 2018 No.3658185 >>3658156 Also I'm noticing that some of the lines are shaky but in a weird pixelated way, like the left breast line. How do you fix this because Im doing quick strokes and it comes out as if im slowing dragging it

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 21:21:16 2018 No.3658196 File: 141 KB, 829x677, SCAN0165.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 21:31:34 2018 No.3658209 >>3658027 To fix symbol drawing, just redraw it upside down. That's it. Gestures should be something you do for a small amount of time everyday. That's it. As for how to learn anatomy, you should try following the books in the /beg/ sticky.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 21:36:47 2018 No.3658214 >>3657592 Don't listen to the baiter anon, this clearly shows you ended up internalizing the Loomis and you now can do cartoon faces. First one looks like my practices right now so I'm glad to see I'll be able to evolve like that.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 21:51:01 2018 No.3658229 File: 1.96 MB, 1424x1124, month.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How'd I do and what should I work on?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 22:51:27 2018 No.3658283 File: 219 KB, 1500x1500, gesture2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3658156 >>3658159 same anon again, I bumped the time from 2 mins to 5 mins to give more time to really look at the images. Do I lower it to improve memorization?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 23:05:47 2018 No.3658296 hello /beg/, I am close to finishing Lesson 2 of Draw A Box, and was wondering where I should take my construction studies from there. What do you guys suggest?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 23:08:20 2018 No.3658300 File: 775 KB, 1080x1920, Screenshot_20181029-030602.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Drew blambobonkrrs minus one hand. I looked at some tutorial shit for hands but am still struggling. How do I learn those motherfuckers

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 28 23:54:21 2018 No.3658335 File: 960 KB, 1080x1070, 20181028_205238.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] what is a good book to start studying perspective?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 00:03:57 2018 No.3658339 >>3658335 perspective for artists and marshall's perspective video series

Anonymous Mon Oct 29 02:08:51 2018 No.3658398
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I've been drawing from life and still life for a while now. Crits pls,

Also should I start stylizing at this point? (Probably because i want to develop a unique artstyle that is a mash up of all my favorite artists.)

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 02:27:08 2018 No.3658405 >figure model has huge milkers >have to stop to fap >lose all motivation to continue is this good or bad for my learning

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 02:34:10 2018 No.3658407 Can I get some recommendations for a daily routine? I’ve been good about consistently drawing from life and seen some improvement, but I think I would benefit from something more structured. I can invest 3-6 hours a day.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 02:38:37 2018 No.3658409 >>3658335 I hate these "draw the rest of the owl" tutorials

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 02:39:17 2018 No.3658410 >>3658405 Fapping depletes you, mentally and physically. Don't do it in the middle of duties, anon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 02:40:50 2018 No.3658412 >>3658398 i like it but, the nose and mouth are off

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 02:42:22 2018 No.3658413 >>3658410 you're saying I shouldnt have jerked off twice every day since the day I discovered mastubating at the age of 13

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 02:46:04 2018 No.3658416 >>3658413 >Discovered masturbating at the age of 13 I discovered mine at 12 It went out of control when I was 13 or 14. Now I can control my urges by distracting myself with work

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 02:53:16 2018 No.3658425 >>3658416 >work yeah in my case being a permaNEET probably doesn't help

Anonymous Mon Oct 29 03:06:25 2018 No.3658431

>>3658425
Alright I went a bit too vague there, sorry.
By work, I mean activities like Drawing, composing or anything productive.

>yeah in my case being a permaNEET probably doesn't help
You can still get away by doing art commissions and other stuff that you may found enjoyable. IDK, even im unemployed.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 03:08:19 2018 No.3658433 File: 132 KB, 984x855, illustration80.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 03:23:39 2018 No.3658437 >>3658431 >You can still get away by doing art commissions that's sort of why I'm taking drawing a little more seriously this month seeing as I'm about as unemployable as a 20somethingyearold could be

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 03:40:20 2018 No.3658447 File: 123 KB, 681x707, WIN_20181029_02_39_06_Pro.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3658433 >illustration 80 im envious i've tried over 700 times and i still have yet to obtain the golden ratio.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 03:45:50 2018 No.3658451 >>3658433 I'd masturbate to her.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 03:46:52 2018 No.3658452 File: 154 KB, 842x1020, 00_001.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] getting back to drawing for like the millionth time, this is from yesterday, posting it to make me post an update later I'm almost an absolute beginner with color

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 03:54:16 2018 No.3658460 >>3658447 that neck is broken

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 04:05:13 2018 No.3658465 File: 595 KB, 2000x2000, big koishi.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i gotta go back to stage one

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 04:08:21 2018 No.3658467 >>3658465 there's no such thing as too much fundamentals. polish them, anon-kun.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 04:10:53 2018 No.3658468 >>3658433 >>3655907 that sum ridiculus gainz

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 04:12:01 2018 No.3658469 >>3658468 eh, i think they gotten worse by adding too much unnecessary stuff.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 04:50:25 2018 No.3658495 File: 110 KB, 1387x702, bb-5bb4406c12aa5.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Participate in the /beg/ collab >>3657698

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 05:00:08 2018 No.3658497 File: 103 KB, 720x1280, amidoingood.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] am I doing good anons?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 05:06:54 2018 No.3658500 >>3658497 yes keep at it

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 05:45:06 2018 No.3658509 File: 1.97 MB, 2380x1690, x2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Does masturbating while drawing actually improve your drawing skills?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 05:50:46 2018 No.3658512 File: 299 KB, 1858x1548, 1540804796616.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] what do u guys think? any feedback

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 06:06:36 2018 No.3658524 >>3658512 I like it

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 06:08:44 2018 No.3658529 >>3658524 ty ty kindsir

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 06:10:35 2018 No.3658530 >>3658512 I don't like it

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 06:13:24 2018 No.3658533 >>3658529 you're welcome. keep on keeping on

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 06:14:02 2018 No.3658536 File: 25 KB, 450x470, 1231597-Clipart-Of-A-Man-Being-Stabbed-With-A-Heart-Royalty-Free-Vector-Illustration.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3658530

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 06:32:11 2018 No.3658544 Can I go through How to draw without ever using a ruler?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 06:34:03 2018 No.3658546 >>3655427 eyes and mouth look symbol draw, as usual. you need to read some more observational drawing books, i think. your eyes and mouths ALWAYS look the same, no matter who you're drawing.

Anonymous Mon Oct 29 06:34:15 2018 No.3658547
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>>3658433
Give her a bit more volume and definition on the shoulders and neck, the neck is always slightly stunted forwards even if you are standing straight. The line of the shoulder does not match up with the lines of the eye. The collar bones are like bicycle handles the run up towards the shoulders not downwards. The skull is a bit more longer than how you did it. Curve the edge of the mouth up, make her really smile.

Hope that helps.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 06:35:11 2018 No.3658548 File: 613 KB, 877x1500, dwarf_noble.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Can I make it in ~3 years?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 06:41:20 2018 No.3658554 >>3658544 You should just get a ruler, but any straightedge will do. You can use the side of a piece of paper.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 06:44:41 2018 No.3658556 >>3658554 That's not what I mean... Is it possible to get good enough at drawing straight lines so you don't need a ruler anymore?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 06:46:39 2018 No.3658557 >>3658556 It's not just possible, it's what you should do

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 06:46:40 2018 No.3658558 >>3658556 yes. using clear and precise strokes using your shoulder. but dont make the same mistake i did. i take it too seriously and my figures' fluidity has suffered because of lack of "energy".

Anonymous Mon Oct 29 06:50:01 2018 No.3658565

>>3658556
Yes, it's possible but it doesn't even any better than a ruler. I'd use a ruler when it matters (studies matter), and I'd practice my freehand straight lines when sketching and thumbnailing (most of the time).

But yeah it's possible to get through the book without a ruler.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 06:51:04 2018 No.3658567 >>3658565 **it doesn't get any better than a ruler Sorry I frankensteined that sentence

Anonymous Mon Oct 29 06:52:45 2018 No.3658571
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>>3658512
pay attention on symmetry the left side of the head is squished in it doesn't feel round. Add curved lines instead of straight lines to the joints neck and tail it will feel more soft and realistic.

Keep at it!

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 06:54:27 2018 No.3658574 >>3658548 Yes! >>3658509 Definitely, that mango is clearly based on a true story and is a realistic depiction of real life.

Anonymous Mon Oct 29 06:57:33 2018 No.3658582
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Should I even continue with this self portrait anons? It already took me like 5-7 hours and Im not even close to finishing it when in the book it is said that the students only took 1 hour or so to finish it. Just thinking about rendering the hair is giving me anxiety. It also doesnt even look like me.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 06:59:14 2018 No.3658583 >>3658509 >>3658574 Is this porn worth reading?

Anonymous Mon Oct 29 07:07:56 2018 No.3658586

>>3658582
You should finish what you started it doesn't look bad at all. Also stop comparing yourself to students in a book, those students had a teacher to guide them and the pressure in a school environment to push themselves.

Do not worry about how it will look at the end, this is just 1 work out many that you will do, stop treating it like a "masterpiece". Get on with it, finish it and move on to the next it is just one just keep it going keep it moving. As long as you are moving and working you are okay.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 07:26:25 2018 No.3658595 >>3658571 oh shit. thanks man looks way better especially my fucked leggs. ive got alot to learn.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 07:56:07 2018 No.3658611 >>3658582 the measuring and proportioning part is longest part for me once everything is the right place, I enjoy rendering and finishing everything else

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 07:58:25 2018 No.3658613 >>3658586 Thanks for the encouragement anon, i will finish it today for sure

Anonymous Mon Oct 29 08:00:59 2018 No.3658618 [DELETED]

That's my first post on 4chan, I'm 17, I've never sudied/practiced drawing, I usually just draw casually sometimes, then I don't draw anything for months. It's not finished, but I won't finish anyway, since it was more of a test just to see if I became worst, since the last time I drew something was 7 months ago. It took me around half an hour, tried to draw without using any reference.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 08:03:44 2018 No.3658622 File: 149 KB, 842x1020, 01 02.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3658452 posting update for motivation

Anonymous Mon Oct 29 08:04:27 2018 No.3658623 [DELETED]

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That's my first post on 4chan, I'm 17, I've never sudied/practiced drawing, I usually just draw casually sometimes, then I don't draw anything for months. It's not finished, but I won't finish anyway, since it was more of a test just to see if I became worst, since the last time I drew something was 7 months ago. It took me around half an hour, tried to draw without using any reference.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 08:12:00 2018 No.3658629 >>3658623 if you're underage you can be banned just for mentioning it, no matter the board. I don't know if people here would bother to actually report you, but, don't do it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 08:18:42 2018 No.3658633 >>3658622 lookin' good keep at it!

Anonymous Mon Oct 29 09:40:10 2018 No.3658680

so I took to using a very pale yellow as my paper colour when I doodle using just a pen as I quite enjoyed how it looked, and I love that kinda paper irl.
I finally am getting out of my comfort zone and using colour and trying to paint, mostly unsuccessfully, but I've been wondering if this yellow paper I have is making it more difficult for myself. Skin, for example, seems hard to paint especially. The yellow is an ever so paler than the yellow on this board - possibly a reason I subconsciously chose it.
Should I just swap to a grey?? Or go back to completely white canvases?
Have a page of painting learning to finish and I've already started so gonna finish, but figure I'll ask for next page. Thanks.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 09:51:17 2018 No.3658691 >>3658680 >Should I just swap to a grey?? Or go back to completely white canvases? I'd say yes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 10:01:39 2018 No.3658696 >>3655907 Wrong direction to go anon, you just polished it and not even in the good way. You're trying to make line weight so properly learn that and drop the guesswork

Anonymous Mon Oct 29 10:06:36 2018 No.3658701

>>3658691
thanks
it's a stupid question, but I kinda wanted a 2 min break inbetween faces and I was kind of wondering if grey is doable because of the whole colour around colour influences it, but I suppose.. grey. I don't know, know dick all about colour.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 10:44:49 2018 No.3658723 File: 155 KB, 671x751, seele-2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] how do y'all deal with horns? i can never get them angled/positioned/sized correctly and i've got to draw them fairly frequently for my commissioner base tips?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 11:19:26 2018 No.3658769 File: 224 KB, 600x900, 1437077449046.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3655907 ...Looks like Captain Katawa

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 11:23:31 2018 No.3658779 >>3658696 not him but how do you learn line weight properly? >drawabox >rando infographic both don't have exercises other than "try it and see what works"

Anonymous Mon Oct 29 11:44:10 2018 No.3658816

When drawing from life do i want to be autistic and measure everything 1 to 1 exact? I was under the impression that when drawing from life you want to make mental notes of the general forms and draw those instead but ive got no clue how to actually do it.

Anonymous Mon Oct 29 11:46:34 2018 No.3658818

>>3658779
by studying people who know how line weight works

>>3658816
no, you need to be thinking about what really matters. people and faces MUST be measured autistically unless you can make up for measuring mistakes, because we as humans notice issues with human proportions instantly. objects? buildings? as long as they look the right size relatively, you're fine.

Anonymous Mon Oct 29 11:58:18 2018 No.3658844

>>3658818
Alright thanks. Im sitting here trying to draw things (objects, my face, my dog) and im thinking i could just measure everything millimeter by millimeter and it'll eventually be done and be basically exact but its just hard work. Not that it's actually hard to measure everything 1 to 1 but it takes so long to do so.

Anonymous Mon Oct 29 12:01:13 2018 No.3658850

>>3658844
yeah, to be honest, it really depends on your goal with studying - there is certainly a lot to be gained from trying your best to measure things 1:1, your observational drawing and mental measuring will get better and better, but it's not exactly necessary for all things. this is things like bargue plates exist.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 12:02:14 2018 No.3658852 >>3658816 measure everything to 80-90%

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 12:16:20 2018 No.3658864 super octs checkem

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 13:15:09 2018 No.3658942 >>3658548 sure. just work hard

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 13:17:22 2018 No.3658946 File: 383 KB, 1000x1333, 1540828204485.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] something looks off with this drawing and i don't know what

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 13:23:05 2018 No.3658951 >>3658946 it's anime garbage is what

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 13:28:11 2018 No.3658957 >>3658946 Tbh, everything is off. Fundies will help you, if you're willing to study. Start with the sticky at the top of the page.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 13:32:34 2018 No.3658959 >>3658957 what do i do?copy the drawings in loomis books?

Anonymous Mon Oct 29 13:58:52 2018 No.3658990
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Hey guys what is up, drew something real quick and wanted opinions, advice. I know the shading is messed up because I couldn't decide on a style to use (hatching etc), it's not consistent with the fat around the belly button and the crotch, and also I didn't bother shading the rest of the body. The shading on her tits was lazy as well. I have to go somewhere now so I can't respond for a couple hours.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 14:00:18 2018 No.3658993 How to avoid pillow shading? Every time I try to draw shading more advanced than simple cell shading it looks like shit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 14:06:41 2018 No.3658998 >>3658993 know the forms and the lightsource(s)

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 14:20:25 2018 No.3659008 File: 128 KB, 866x648, SCAN0166.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Hair is shit need to fix that a bit, also need to go make another pass with 4B to darken up some areas further. Anything else I'm missing?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 14:29:45 2018 No.3659019 File: 1.56 MB, 1000x1333, untitled1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3658946 use some perspective and foreshortening

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 14:31:06 2018 No.3659022 >>3659008 sweet!

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 14:32:23 2018 No.3659024 File: 200 KB, 640x480, dwnhang.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] turbo noob checking in I finally bought my first tablet its shit but for some reason I like it and loved painting it

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 14:49:40 2018 No.3659050 >>3657904 please respond

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 15:28:44 2018 No.3659119 >>3659008 Didn't go darker cause I'm a pussy, I'm done with this. Will go darker sooner or later.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 15:54:50 2018 No.3659154 File: 124 KB, 847x609, SCAN0168.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Ok. Feedback please.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 16:14:15 2018 No.3659182 >>3659154 Nice. Try darkening the background a step or two though

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 16:16:44 2018 No.3659184 File: 463 KB, 1070x601, 43.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >home alone practicing anatomy >drawing naked male bodies >go to the kitchen to get a snack >leave the door open >see dad >mfw dad saw my screen filled with naked muscly man

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 16:17:57 2018 No.3659187 I don't know how to start but what would be a good book?

Anonymous Mon Oct 29 16:20:32 2018 No.3659189

>>3657904
>>3659050
You already got a response, anon. I don’t want to be a d/ic/k, but do you really need your ego stroked so badly?

Like the other guy said, your getting the hang of it. You’re trying to plant the figures down in 3 dimensions, that’s good, using those boxes as sort of anchors to remind you of the direction of your angles was a good idea. They arent amazing, but you’re on the right track. No one is going to individually rate 20 different sketches for you, some of them look good, other are stiff, some are inaccurate, but you can tell your keeping your fundies in mind. The other anon had a good suggestion, try putting yourself in some of the poses yourself and see if they feel right. Try going back and forth between ref and imagination, there are still gaps in your knowledge and it looks like your still struggling somewhat with how to assemble the forms together into a figure logically with your angles and perspective consistent.
Good luck anon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 16:31:16 2018 No.3659197 >>3659154 MASTERPIECE

Anonymous Mon Oct 29 16:32:53 2018 No.3659200

>>3659184
You have to move out or kill yourself, they’re your only options.

Seriously though, that’s something you’re going to have to get over if you want to get serious about drawing. You’re going to have to draw naked men and women if you want to learn how to draw the figure. Sometimes people will see that you drew naked muscly guys. It just becomes ordinary, and if you get really good at it, he may even be proud that you did. If your dad asks, just tell him the truth about how you wanted to learn how to draw muscles. Just try to avoid getting sent to pray the gay away camp.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 16:33:21 2018 No.3659201 >>3658060 Incredible please draw Tank Girl.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 16:35:25 2018 No.3659203 >>3659024 I think it is great and not shit at all.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 17:03:26 2018 No.3659225 what’s the best resource for studying lots of shapes? maybe some minor perspective, but i already have books on that. when i attempted figure drawing it was assumed i was deep into the fundies

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 17:08:00 2018 No.3659231 >>3659225 Watson recommends cutting out cubes and cones and drawing them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 17:10:24 2018 No.3659233 File: 722 KB, 1500x1500, Loomis.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I didn't know where to start so I downloaded Loomis PDF and it's been a lot of fun so far

Anonymous Mon Oct 29 17:30:25 2018 No.3659251
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How do I disable double click on wacom tablet? Or at least how to stop double clicking and connecting two lines? using a Bamboo

the lines you see are where i make 2 dots in quickish time, near eachother. Wacom pen properties allows me to change "double click distance" but not turn it off. So every time i try and do handwriting on a picture, or small lines/dots quickly for sketch/texture, it is ruined.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 17:34:03 2018 No.3659259 >>3659189 can you point out some specific gaps in my knowledge?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 17:36:11 2018 No.3659260 >>3659154 How u do dis?

Anonymous Mon Oct 29 17:36:15 2018 No.3659261
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attempting drapery
I do have a partial attempt, at shading this, but I gave up upon realizing how much of my materials I'd have to use, and how cumbersome it'd be. So when I come back, I'll be studying value, digitally.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 17:38:28 2018 No.3659262 >>3659260 lots of shading

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 17:42:45 2018 No.3659269 File: 521 KB, 1536x2138, 9502774D-5AB2-44D5-B2B8-CBF7C689B480.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] why is this so shitty?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 17:44:16 2018 No.3659272 >>3659269 Because you need to think of the proportions of the face and the parts of the face.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 17:49:00 2018 No.3659277 >>3659272 so the proportions are all off? i’ll keep that in mind.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 17:56:43 2018 No.3659288 File: 132 KB, 712x1000, 20181029_225157-1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] how am I doing?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 18:06:25 2018 No.3659300 >>3659288 It looks good to my untrained eye, but I'm newer than you are so take that with a grain of salt. What are you using as references for these?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 18:18:28 2018 No.3659318 >>3659269 I do not think it is shitty at all, I think maybe what you are seeing is the philtrum is too long. It is very cool indeed.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 18:24:07 2018 No.3659326 >>3659269 maybe condense the mid face >>3659288 From my perspective you are doing awesome.

Anonymous Mon Oct 29 19:36:57 2018 No.3659422

>>3659259
Sure man, some of the limbs look broken and twisted up, the one woman in there looks like her spine is broken. It looks like your having issues with overlapping forms and foreshortening (see the figure diagonally to the right of the female figure). Your blocking in some anatomy in some of these figure, but its wrong in some places, the deltoid and bicep of the shaded figure stands out. even though you've made a strong effort to keep the angle of the forms consistent you slipped up in a few places, the foot of the gut below and to the right of the shaded figure doesnt have a bottom plane. You've elongated some of the forms a bit too much, like the jumping figure next to the woman i mentioned before, he doesn't have enough room for a proper abdomen. all these little things add up to make the figures look wrong and inaccurate. The way you correct it is by studying how these things look and work in different situations and angles, you need to know what they look like before you can start accurately representing what they look like. You're on the right track like I said before, just keep at it. Study more, good luck anon.

Anonymous Mon Oct 29 19:45:51 2018 No.3659433

>>3659288
For the hands you crossed out, take a picture of them in that position, trace over it, and study it. Especially since the bottom left has some foreshortening issues that would really help you improve if you figured it out. The nails in the bottom right are probably not accurate and the top half of the thumb doesn't look right either. Tilt your head counter-clockwise to see what I mean. Trace trace trace it will help you understand the forms.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 19:47:12 2018 No.3659435 >>3659269 your imagination is ugly lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 19:48:14 2018 No.3659436 >>3659184 >Nah it's cool I draw anorexic women too to study the skeleton

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 20:00:05 2018 No.3659446 I'm done with fun with a pencil, now what?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 20:02:12 2018 No.3659450 >>3659446 Post results, let's see if you're really done

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 20:13:45 2018 No.3659461 New Thread: >>3659459 >>3659459 >>3659459

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 29 21:02:34 2018 No.3659521 >>3659450 >you have to be an absolute expert at fun with a fucking pencil before you can move on to >>3659446 loomis's figure drawing for all it's worth. do that next

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 30 15:22:59 2018 No.3660497 File: 14 KB, 640x480, mtn.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How to do "texture" ? How do I make it look like an actual rock mass ?

Anonymous Wed Oct 31 10:25:23 2018 No.3661387
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>>3655782
I dont mean to knock you down (its a good effort, really) but why is every goddamn beginner so caught up with style!

Do your craft some justice and diligently study nature and a book and a class on construction and rendering.

In your case I would suggest to just take a look asaro's memorised planar head and some observational drawings of everyday faces, paying attention to structure.

you dont even have to pay for a model of the asaro head. here https://sketchfab.com/models/fd74ad764a4e4619b72733316dc574b4

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