/beg/ - BEGINNER ART THREAD

[Anonymous No.3650330]

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the Drawthread with our fundamental exercises.

Previous Thread >>3643527 → (Cross-thread)

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, do not give up, make someone proud.

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS:
1)
>screenshot the image and post that instead
2)
>change camera capture settings to something smaller
3)
>send to computer and resize in MSPaint

READ THE STICKY if you need guidance when you haven't even started

Sticky: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

TRY TO GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK - many studies are left unreplied, which is a bit sad and can be quite demotivating for the people that try their best to improve, but are left directionless.

REMEMBER, if you've just started out you work will not be good, it doesn't need to be, just get in to the swing of actually drawing, and learning how to study. Most of all, enjoy it.

"Success is no accident. It is hard work, perseverance, learning, studying, sacrifice and most of all, love of what you are doing or learning to do."

[Anonymous No.3650338]

>>3649250
I'm just polishing a turd, aren't I?

[Anonymous No.3650340]

>>3650338
wrong image

[Anonymous No.3650395]

>>3650330
I'm done with drawing heads for now
I gonna push the values and be done with it
any critiques?
I've been drawing for a month and a half now

[Anonymous No.3650408]

I'm doing Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain, and was wondering how many exercises I won't be able to do if I don't have that transparent plastic plane to draw on with a marker. Any particularly important ones that I'd have to skip?

[Anonymous No.3650413]

mentally trace, or trace with your fingers, any photo you come across. It's specially useful for hair.

[Anonymous No.3650431]

Had to cross post since I didnt realize there was a new thread but here it goes.

Hello to /ic/! I’ve recently been interested in painting and decided to learn how to paint the eyes in the past few weeks, My problem with painting (I’m doing it digitally since iPads are mandatory in school) is it’s so hard to find the mid tones and the variations of the skin’s color.

Is there any tip you guys can give to make it easier to identify the color of the skin? I’d appreciate feedback. and only now have I learn to appreciate how hard it is to paint.

My proportions arent that good yet but I’m working on it.

Pic related^

[Anonymous No.3650454]

>>3650431
Look up color zones of the face, also use reference. Try to look how a eye really looks. And have fun.

[Anonymous No.3650457]

>>3650431
A mid to reddish orange, desaturated to the point that it's almost brown looking. Hightlights, shadows, and different zones move more towards yellow or red.

[Anonymous No.3650459]

Thanks for the feedback! Yeah I’ve noticed that I’ve been lacking reference so I’ll study eye anatomy that’s for sure.

I have another question though. Does recognizing the skin color just come through constant practice until you just eyeball it or is there a technique to it?

[Anonymous No.3650472]

I got out of bed at 2:30 in the morning to draw this. Does that mean I'm turning into an artist?

[Anonymous No.3650487]

>>3650472
Was this from your dream?

[Anonymous No.3650492]

>>3650487
Actually I had just gotten into bed, but I wasn't sleeping yet. I just sort of felt compelled to draw it before falling asleep.

[Anonymous No.3650511]

>>3650340
You're not a beginner anymore, work on your lines and proportions

[Anonymous No.3650517]

https://stiblogs.wordpress.com/
How am I doing?

[Anonymous No.3650526]

>>3650511
nah, I'm moving on

[Anonymous No.3650533]

How tf do you ever stop despising everything you make? I realized I haven't drawn (or written) for years because I feel like everything I make is absolute garbage. I'm trying to start doing both again but holy shit everything I make is trash.

[Anonymous No.3650544]

>>3650533
I recently bought a small dry erase board to write reminders on. I ended up just doodling on it. Because I was only drawing with a dry erase marker and my skill was low, the drawings weren't very good. I had fun with it though so I ended up drawing once a day for a while. I think that knowing it won't be very good removes some of the anxiety from the creative process. It doesn't have to be good, just have fun with it.

[Anonymous No.3650548]

That's pretty good advice >>3650544
>>3650533 Well, you would have to narrow down what is it that makes you feel bad about what you do, make a list of the things you would like to change or improve at, then practice at those. Or learn from other people you look up to.
And, not even kidding but, do exercise. Helps both with learning and mood.

[Anonymous No.3650550]

[Anonymous No.3650565]

>>3650550
if this is a lion well done, if not unlucky try again dude

[Anonymous No.3650568]

>>3650550
need more wiggle

[Anonymous No.3650570]

>>3650565
its a weird lion beast yeah
not exactly realistic sort of canid fu dog type lion, but a lion nonetheless....

[Anonymous No.3650769]

First time I've drawn a face in a very long time. Nose is way too long, right? How bad is the shading? And facial shape?

[Anonymous No.3650802]

>>3650769
Well, that's a tricky question. If you are drawing a kid, the eyes, eyebrows and root of the nose are too high. If it's someone older the nose and mouth are too low. In any case you need to match the ears to roughly between the eyebrows and the tip of the nose, which you aren't doing at the moment.

There's really almost no shading, as in planes of value to define the forms. It's kind of symbolic. Keep at it, practice more planar structures for a while or rendering cubes, spheres and other primitives.

[Anonymous No.3650839]

>>3650802
I drew a young guy. I figured the nose and mouth were too low.
I'll keep practising.

[Anonymous No.3650845]

Can I get general criticism and tips on my painting?
My only motivation is to learn to paint waifus with acrylic paints.

[Anonymous No.3650847]

>>3650550
>>3650570
how long have you been drawing? i dont think /beg/s are able to abstract to this extent

[Anonymous No.3650849]

>>3650845
I feel like I should point out the obvious, that I already learnt from this.
I bought cheap titanium hwhite that didn't play nice with my other acrylics, going to do something fun with that, but it's not a good one to mix with the other paints.

[Anonymous No.3650851]

>>3650845
you've got a lot of symbols. i suggest you do life paintings of still life like, basically anything you have around you, and go look at some facial features then draw/paint them individually, attempting to draw everything you see. look at the ref more than the canvas.

[Anonymous No.3650854]

>>3650851
Here's my reference.

[Anonymous No.3650872]

This is a fairly quick practice I did, any thoughts?

[Anonymous No.3650873]

>>3650872
reference used

[Anonymous No.3650875]

>>3650854
Oh, well that is horrific. If that's what you would like to paint you keep going with that, but good critique is gonna be hard to come by if you're painting disgusting old 3d models.

[Anonymous No.3650877]

>>3650875
>but good critique is gonna be hard to come by if you're painting disgusting old 3d models.
Eh, fair enough.

[Anonymous No.3650882]

hi discord, what do you guys think? what have i done wrong & what is generally bad?

[Anonymous No.3650901]

>>3650872
when i dont click on it the image is small and it looks good. Basically my mind is filling in the gaps where the detail should be.

[Anonymous No.3650904]

Fell for the Loomis meme, hope I improve

[Anonymous No.3650911]

>>3650330
>first thing in in the sticky is a discord link
Yikes!

[Anonymous No.3650915]

>>3650854
that reference is a horror piece.

[Anonymous No.3650920]

>>3650845
first, search for a good looking waifu reference and just paint, and use more water so the brush can flow smoothly.
Also try to dont use so much pure black.

[Anonymous No.3650969]

>>3650904
good stuff

[Anonymous No.3651001]

please crit

[Anonymous No.3651007]

>>3650408
its worth getting one. Im probably at the same part and most sections now require it. Honestly it was super easy to make. I bought a 8x10 glass frame at goodwill for $2 then put a paper border around it.

[Anonymous No.3651031]

Currently working on my perception skills but wondering about other sources for learning construction that isnt just DrawaBox (which I'm not opposed to doing, just wanna know other potential sources).

[Anonymous No.3651040]

i wanna make it guys.

[Anonymous No.3651051]

>>3651040
>not drawing the dick
NGMI

[Anonymous No.3651127]

Is there anything to keep in mind when practicing on straight lines? Or do I just keep going at it until my hand and eye agree with each other? Lines keep having a slight wobble to them or not going straight but diagonal

[Anonymous No.3651132]

>>3651127
If they're over 4 inches just use a ruler. Freehand lines are only useful when you're out sketching.

[Anonymous No.3651146]

Started Keys to Drawing so up my observational skills. Hope I'm on the right track...

[Anonymous No.3651210]

>>3650330
what should i study if i want to become a good comic book artist? i figure anatomy, perspective, landscape & architecture, gesture, and composition..
am i missing anything?

[Anonymous No.3651214]

been grinding fundies and now want to try digital painting.
can someone recommend a good tutorial for getting started? something like a more easier to follow version of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u869WDFGhJU

[Anonymous No.3651218]

Hey, I got some critique that left version's perspective was fucked, and tried fixing it into somewhat of a slight top-down view. I don't want to keep bothering the guy, so I came here for some more critique. What do you guys think? First time trying to ink something, and I also got kinda lazy around the hair, so excuse me for the poor line-work.

[Anonymous No.3651231]

I'm getting the gist of the ball and plane method of the head but I'm having trouble connecting the eyebrows/browline and the cheekbone. I always seem to over exaggerate it to the point where it ruins the proportion or it's too flat.

It seems like an extremely stupid problem but it's really holding me back.

[Anonymous No.3651247]

>>3651214
What are the fundies?

[Anonymous No.3651307]

>>3650395
I know you said you will push the values, but really do it. Compare values to eachother. How dark should the nostril be? I dont know but definitely darker than the shadow in the ear if you get my drift. You have some really great middle tone work done, but needs more contrast. Look up some other poeple's and compare it to your own, compare how dark the shadows of a scarf are to the shadow under your cheek. I actually like the cheeks, but they are too dark compared to the other dark spots.

[Anonymous No.3651309]

>>3650472
ngl I can't wait to see the redraw in 10 years

[Anonymous No.3651323]

>>3651231
Look at some real 3/4 faces and sketch them using the ball and plane method for the foundation. There is so much variety. Also drawing extremes like making something too small or too defined is a good way to find balance and force your eye to look at the proportions from another perspective.
Also try flipping your art. if its on paper hold up the back of the paper to a light. I'm sure you'll land somewhere you like soon.

[Anonymous No.3651329]

where i can learn the reilly method?

[Anonymous No.3651353]

>>3650330
I know stuff looks smaller and compressed the farther away it is
but how do I draw that with out it looking all wonky and off

[Anonymous No.3651355]

>>3651218
he doesn’t have a fore head

[Anonymous No.3651466]

Red line or comments?

[Anonymous No.3651469]

When will I get out of /beg/

[Anonymous No.3651471]

>>3651353
draw it as boxes

[Anonymous No.3651474]

>>3651210
you need just about everything other than colour theory, unless you're colouring.

[Anonymous No.3651477]

>>3651353
perspective, this is simple the parallel horizontal lines converge to a single point. You draw the top and bottom of the train with these lines converging to a single point at the back of the train. Go read perspective made easy.

[Anonymous No.3651482]

shitty Jon Hamm

Had very blue daylight when I took photo of it, so had to mess with curves and color.

It's done with blue ballpoint pen

[Anonymous No.3651545]

So I got a tablet and I'm completely new to digital painting and CSP. I downloaded the Marco Bucci course but are there any more tutorials that are helpful for learning, kinda like the Watts Atelier course?. I just wanna draw gay Johnny and Gyro comics

[Anonymous No.3651618]

I have a question about half assed practice and wether it'll ultimately harm my skills.

So a lot of time due to work I don't get to properly sit down and learn. It's not a time problem, it's more of a exhaustion problem. I try to squeeze in drawing everywhere, I doodle on breaks, after work I do techniques, just bits and bits everywhere. Problem is, my mind is often busy or I'm tired, I never get to train like I get to on the weekend. My eyelids feel heavy, my focus slips up and so do my lines and sometimes my mind is so occupied with work I literally cannot think of anything to draw and just sketch from the environment.

My fear is just that I'll practice myself into bad technique by doing so much half assed. Just yesterday I told myself to fill a page with doodles before falling asleep, I was so done with the day by then that when I finished I dropped into my bed in my clothes and slept instantly. I woke up and wondered if practicing badly means practicing to be bad?

[Anonymous No.3651620]

>>3651469
when you stop tracing and gain some line confidence.

[Anonymous No.3651626]

>>3651618
Doodling is never real practice, you're basically just drawing what you already know. If you're really exhausted at least try and copy some artist you like trying to understand what makes their work appealing

[Anonymous No.3651665]

>>3650330

Please, need advices, how to fix my drawing ?

[Anonymous No.3651679]

>>3651665
Go back to learning fundies, my dude

[Anonymous No.3651682]

>>3651679

Gesture ? Construction ? What's wrong

[Anonymous No.3651683]

>>3651618
>it's more of an exhaustion problem
This might be more psychological than anything. I wake up at 5am, commute an hour to work, do programming pretty much straight for 8 hours, commute 2 hours home because of the traffic, and I still manage to do 3 hours of solid practice a night before going to bed. I'm not bragging or anything, I'm just saying that if I can do it then you can do it too. Unless you have a very demanding physical job then it might just be in your head, an unconscious excuse for not wanting to practice.

>literally cannot think of anything to draw
I don't think this is a problem you should be having. As a beginner most of what you do should be part of a structured curriculum for gaining specific skills: perspective, anatomy, rendering, etc. If you're working through a book or a plan of study you've put together in advance, then you don't have to think of what to draw next because you already know the next step.

Anyway with regards to doodling it can stop you from going backwards, so it's definitely better than nothing, but it won't really help you advance.

[Anonymous No.3651685]

>>3651665
learn hands & feet no way around it bruh

[Anonymous No.3651686]

>>3651683
>I don't think this is a problem you should be having. As a beginner most of what you do should be part of a structured curriculum for gaining specific skills: perspective, anatomy, rendering, etc. If you're working through a book or a plan of study you've put together in advance, then you don't have to think of what to draw next because you already know the next step.

No one should really follow this advice, unless you're very very good at sticking to a boring ass plan, even then it's not that good. You should be learning fundies and applying those fundies to things you want to draw, otherwise you'll burn out, or worse, lose all of your creativity, and once you finally have your fundies down, you'll have nothing to do with them.

[Anonymous No.3651690]

>>3651686
I don't see much of a point in producing work that you know will be bad and have correctable mistakes. A beginner by definition is someone who can't make good work because they lack the foundational skills to do so. My advice is basically to skip the Deviantart OC phase and acquire the skills needed to make good original work before you actually start trying to make good original work.
I also think you're wrong to say that foundational work is necessarily boring. Things like gesture drawings or rendered scenes involving only elementary forms can be very beautiful, for instance.
I also accept that people have different psychological learning styles though and if they want to jump right into trying to do more original work I'm not gonna tell them they're wrong. Every path gets to the goal eventually as long as you're properly self-critical.

[Anonymous No.3651697]

>>3651690
For sure, but I think telling someone they shouldn't be worrying about having nothing to draw is not good. It's fine for very certain people to skip the deviantart OC phase, but for most people it will be much more beneficial to create that and refine it over time. You need to be completing pieces similar to the ones you hope to achieve one day, and if you completely skip the creative process until your fundies are good, you're going to have good fundies and very little ability to apply them to anything interesting. The fundies aren't necessarily boring, but I would say that it's quite obvious that the majority of people do not enjoy grinding the fundies without supplementing a bit of drawing what they want.

The way I see it, if you started drawing because you had an idea in mind, you should work towards that by learning the fundies and realising the idea, that will take you closer to where you want to go. However, if you just want to draw study after study or naked models over and over, just grind fundies. Skipping the deviantart OC phase skips crucial development, if you ask me.

[Anonymous No.3651705]

First real attempt at drawing a head from an angle and not straight ahead. I can't decide if she's cute or not

[Anonymous No.3651706]

>>3651355
better?

[Anonymous No.3651710]

>>3651146
Feet keep falling asleep.

[Anonymous No.3651852]

>>3651001
bros?

[Anonymous No.3651859]

Guys gimme a (you) if you'd be up for creating a /beg/ art collab thread similar to the big boy one here >>3629764
If there's enough interest it could be fun and as a /beg/ one it'd be safe for us to completely fuck up.

[Anonymous No.3651862]

>>3651859
Why not?

[Anonymous No.3651880]

how bad are my hands?
the ones with the "!" are drawn using my left hand as a reference

[Anonymous No.3651885]

>>3651880
Try to block in the general shapes to get better proportions

[Anonymous No.3651961]

>linework is soulless
what can i do about this?

[Anonymous No.3651962]

>>3651961
I heard something about different line weights, I'm too much of a beginner to be sure, though.

[Anonymous No.3651967]

>>3651961
Stop drawing digital and let yourself be guided by the feedback of a physical tool. Graphite, charcoal, ink, doesn't matter much.

[Anonymous No.3651968]

How do I come up with natural looking non-retarded poses when drawing from imagination?

[Anonymous No.3651985]

>>3651962
>doesnt notice the line weight
why do retards like you even bother to reply?

[Anonymous No.3651991]

>>3651985
>posts in beg thread
>beg replies, even says he's unsure
>still post this response
Your linework is soulless because art imitates life, and you're also soulless.

[Anonymous No.3651995]

>>3651961
Try drawing more loosely, this includes avoiding the undo button and eraser tool.

[Anonymous No.3651996]

>>3651985
The line weight variation you do have is minimal. You could be doing a lot more. If you're posting in /beg/ you're probably a beginner though and you should learn how to draw first before you start worrying about "soul".

[Anonymous No.3652022]

My first attempt at anything besides random doodles in MSpaint.

[Anonymous No.3652023]

>>3652022
>first attempt at anything besides random doodles in MSpaint.
>paints a random doodle in MSpaint.

[Anonymous No.3652025]

>>3652023
It's my first time not drawing stick figures with the pencil tool, okay!

[Anonymous No.3652026]

>>3652025
Shit or get off the pot. The results are more interesting.

[Anonymous No.3652028]

>>3652026
Are you saying I should just draw more or something.

[Anonymous No.3652033]

>>3651985
Go fuck yourself, your weights are trash and your drawing looks like shit because of it.

[Anonymous No.3652058]

>>3652028
Go all the way poorly or don't. It's usually better when you try to push something than just doing bland studies, even if it's terrible. Color and composition go a long way.

[Anonymous No.3652105]

>>3651545
help plz

[Anonymous No.3652108]

Drawn with no reference. Started out as a half serious gesture drawing and I decided to color it to practice coloring. I think it looks like a talented 12 year old drew it, personally.

[Anonymous No.3652122]

>>3650492
>I just sort of felt compelled to draw it before falling asleep.
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[Anonymous No.3652123]

>>3651968
I never get a reply in these goddamn threads. Are my pictures fucking invisible?

[Anonymous No.3652127]

>>3651968

Im just a beginner, but I've read that you'll never be able to draw convincingly and dynamically from the imagination alone until you're fully comfortable with the human anatomy at all its angles.

It looks like her legs are too closed. Like she needs to piss and she's holding it in.

[Anonymous No.3652130]

>>3652127

And why is she kick and punching at the same time on the same side of her body? How did your character end up in that pose? What would the laws of momentum insist her body be doing? Is that your trouble? Maybe you don't think deeply enough about why your person is doing what they're doing,and thats why the poses are awkward?

[Anonymous No.3652134]

>>3652130
I just can't come up with poses at all. I just felt it out on the canvas without planning.
My imagination is shit. I need resources to help me develop natural poses

[Anonymous No.3652138]

>>3652134
bruce-lee movies

[Anonymous No.3652140]

>>3652134

The Human Figure in Motion by Eadweard Muybridge. It's this big ass book filled with this (pic related): naked people doing random shit in sequenced pictures.. Super helpful.

[Anonymous No.3652151]

>>3652134
>I just can't come up with poses at all.
>My imagination is shit.
Are you a martial artist? Why are you beating yourself up for not knowing how the body doing action poses works?

You need to work on a more positive attitude towards drawing.

[Anonymous No.3652155]

>>3652140
>>3652151
Thanks, I'll check out that book.

I'm hard on myself because I feel like I've been drawing too long to still be this bad.

[Anonymous No.3652156]

>>3652140
Shit where'd you get that one? The one I have is the size of a fuckin' pocketbook. Worthless!

>or maybe we have the same one and you just have really small hands!?

[Anonymous No.3652225]

I wonder if I should draw as many gestures as I can during my studies or do one until I feel that I understand the pose.

[Anonymous No.3652239]

Please don't laugh

[Anonymous No.3652248]

>>3652108

Hey, I'm the anon that suggested the Human Figure in Motion book. I did my bit for the thread. Attention plox

[Anonymous No.3652305]

>>3652108
7/10
Dont stop, keep improving youre on the right track.

[Anonymous No.3652308]

>>3650330
>Photoshop is an application which requires 16gb of ram
Is this for real? So 32gb of ram should be good if paired up with a i7 8700k?

[Anonymous No.3652329]

>>3652239
A lot of potential. Keep going.

[Anonymous No.3652330]

>>3651469
grind perspective. her position is very awkward, as all her weight would be on her feet if she was trying to lean back like that.

[Anonymous No.3652331]

>>3651469
This would look a ton better if you just cleaned up the lines.

[Anonymous No.3652335]

>>3652239
Might want to check out a reference of Goku.

[Anonymous No.3652336]

It's literally impossible to draw a gesture in 30 seconds.

[Anonymous No.3652337]

>>3651682
the most apparent thing would be his hips. youre not drawing the underlying construction and your drawing ends up looking 2d because of it. also you completly cropped out hands and feet even though youre on digital. baka

[Anonymous No.3652338]

>>3652336
Correction: Its impossible to draw a gesture in 30 seconds at your skill level. Keep going and try a little faster each time. Youll get there.

[Anonymous No.3652341]

>>3652337
correction, you cropped out the feet, and the hands are just shit

[Anonymous No.3652351]

>>3651705
keep working, Anon. i believe in you

[Anonymous No.3652355]

>>3651852
shift your fucking hues for gods sake

[Anonymous No.3652363]

>>3650330
Why is it so hard to transfer stuff from image to paper without fucking up?
I had to put some grids to make it easier

[Anonymous No.3652375]

>>3651859
Nobody except that one guy would participate..?

[Anonymous No.3652385]

>>3651968
Pose yourself, srudy poses, etc.

[Anonymous No.3652391]

>>3651329
anyone?

[Anonymous No.3652435]

so I tried to add cross hatching to this drawing i made and it looks shit. Where did i go wrong with this one?

[Anonymous No.3652437]

>>3652435
Lacks light direction

[Anonymous No.3652454]

>>3652435
When you picked up a pen.

[Anonymous No.3652482]

>>3652391
youtube

[Anonymous No.3652483]

>>3652435
When you didn't even learn how to draw lines or read a single line about fundies

Apply yourself

http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=066fe201130f4e7674d025b092eb94a4

vk
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[Anonymous No.3652499]

Want Hellp

[Anonymous No.3652501]

>>3652483
Take your fundies and shove it up your arse autist. I fell for the loomis meme wasted countless hours grinding that dumb shit and as you can see it didn't do shit for me. Every one of these drawing books are like that draw a horse meme. Put in the construction lines and just draw the horse bro lol xdd go fuck yourself.

[Anonymous No.3652502]

>>3652454
go fuck yourself

[Anonymous No.3652503]

>>3652499
eyes should be at the middle of the head

[Anonymous No.3652504]

>>3652501
>>3652502

[Anonymous No.3652505]

Fucked around and doodled this

[Anonymous No.3652508]

Yo

[Anonymous No.3652509]

>>3652508
well you ain't beg

[Anonymous No.3652510]

I posted some funny faces last time, and everyone said I had some work to do. I'm revisiting Loomis.

[Anonymous No.3652511]

>>3652336
It's not, but I also don't think it's a goal you should really worry about. Gestures should be deliberate and you should take as long as you need to finish them.

[Anonymous No.3652515]

>>3652510
mirror your image to know if it sucks

[Anonymous No.3652516]

>>3652501
this post just says
>im retarded
you even got the meme wrong, it's an owl. if you don't actually read the books, and think about the words and pictures, and instead just skip to the pictures you're gonna have a bad time. if you cant loomis you have no hope of getting critique.

[Anonymous No.3652524]

>>3652516
>>3652501
I'll spoonfeed you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EPNYWeEf1U

https://design.tutsplus.com/articles/think-with-forms-not-lines-take-your-drawing-to-the-next-level--cms-24486

Here you go, if this cannot help you, nothing can.

[Anonymous No.3652529]

>draw sketch
Looks great!
>clean up the lines
Looks okay
>color it
Looks ehh
>apply some shade
Looks like shit

How do I manage to properly color and shade the picture? I know how it's supposed to work but I can't get it to look natural.

[Anonymous No.3652530]

>>3652529
Keep doing it, you probably sketch more than you clean up lines, and clean up lines more than you colour etc. You just need to do it more.

[Anonymous No.3652531]

>>3652529
post it

[Anonymous No.3652533]

>>3652530
Yeah, I only have an hour a day to draw and cleaning up the lines takes up so much time so I usually just sketch around.

If I look at drawings I always notice how smooth one shade melts into another and I just can't manage to get the same smooth effect.

[Anonymous No.3652535]

>>3652533
You should practice at first with pencil only, a ballpoint pen can also work, try these in pic related. Start light, and darken. Darkest shade on the left, lightest on the right. I have no idea how this works digitally, if that's how you're working.

[Anonymous No.3652541]

>>3652531
>>3652535
If I draw on paper shading isn't that much of an issue, usually do as you said. Started doing digital though and even though my pen recognizes the applied pressure it still ends up with shades not "connecting" right.

[Anonymous No.3652545]

>>3652541
That will have to do with blending then, I think. I work traditionally so I don't know too much about this stuff, but I'm sure there's real good videos on youtube,

[Anonymous No.3652553]

>>3652541
Doesn't look that good as a sketch either desu

the butt is malformed

also every single one of those steps are a field on their own. You could take as much as learning to do interesting line-art as learning how to sketch and don't even get me started on coloring.

I'll recommend you to take it easy and either don't worry how it ends or only apply what you are competent at, in a piece you put a lot of effort on and want it to be in a spotlight.

[Anonymous No.3652559]

>>3652553
That's a neat way of exposing flaws in proportions. Never the left butt cheek didn't seem that off to me. I'll check it myself next time!

>>3652545
>>3652553
Will also keep practicing sketching instead of going for the colors and shade with my limited time for now at least. Thanks for the heads up

[Anonymous No.3652565]

How do you do Lay-ins efficiently and accurately?

[Anonymous No.3652568]

>>3652565
trying to study this
big shapes first and then smaller shapes
but how do I do it faster?

[Anonymous No.3652571]

>>3652553
My attempt in fixing the butt, it does look better but still not enough "volume".

[Anonymous No.3652572]

>>3652571
Move on, draw more butts and people

[Anonymous No.3652575]

>>3652571
Just use the Iwarp tool in gimp or the distortion tool in photoshop

is what I use if I've finished a piece but there are mistakes I didn't notice before

[Anonymous No.3652576]

>>3652572
>draw more butts
I defenitly will.

>>3652575
Using neither of those but I probably should, especially photoshop. Thanks for the advice!

[Anonymous No.3652577]

[Anonymous No.3652609]

>>3652515
Did a bit of touching up on it. The guy was alright, as far as I could tell, but I pushed the eye of the girl a little, and I changed where her ear was. How bout it?

[Anonymous No.3652617]

this is my fisrt time using graphic tablet

[Anonymous No.3652623]

this is something i made last night

[Anonymous No.3652737]

Just something I put together waiting for my food but want to know where I stand.. Total begginer

[Anonymous No.3652774]

Also this...

[Anonymous No.3652806]

just did a quick sketch on my trusty old windows tablet
what do you think?
which parts that I can improve on?

[Anonymous No.3652816]

>>3652737
When you have more time try finding some references and try this drawing again.

[Anonymous No.3652834]

>>3652737
>>3652806
Bad. Quick sketches are bad unless you're already really good, post something you put work in to if you want critique.

[Anonymous No.3652846]

Good resources for beginning anatomy?
I'm already reading Figure Drawing Design and Invention which has lots of it but I'm wondering if there are other good resources.
The more the better.

[Anonymous No.3652857]

>>3652846
Goldfinger has almost everything you'll ever need to know about anatomy.

[Anonymous No.3652876]

>>3650511
He's absolutely a beginner.

[Anonymous No.3652881]

Hey so i want to start drawing
Realistic humans (because i want to draw like knights and i know i sound like im 12 )
but are there any tipps and tricks for someone who just starts with drawing (paper and not on the computer)

[Anonymous No.3652884]

First time trying to work from a photo reference on a Huion tablet I just got? I'll probably work on it a bit more tomorrow, especially the hair. Any general tips?

Also what are some good courses for digital painting? Can be books or some exercise sets as well?

[Anonymous No.3652889]

>>3652884
Im still quite a beginner to digital painting but i'd suggest building up your shadows and using them to make more defined edges (not line work!), this should help to make the painting less 'blurred'

[Anonymous No.3652890]

>>3652846
I use this website for practice https://line-of-action.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing/

[Anonymous No.3652900]

>>3652889
Yeah, I do have a problem with finding that balance between the smooth transition you see in real life and the contours.

I'm wondering if it would be a good idea to keep the arms on a seperate layer from the body underneath it in such a case.

[Anonymous No.3652904]

Spent 3 hours on this. First real attempt at perspective.

[Anonymous No.3652953]

What are some exercises to become more precise with tablet? I can't draw a damn straight line with it.

[Anonymous No.3652965]

Feedback on construction phase so far. Will begin to better define lips, nose, ear and eyes in next phase.

[Anonymous No.3652968]

>>3652965
ref

[Anonymous No.3653008]

>>3652968
>>3652965
It's off.

[Anonymous No.3653019]

I ended up doing tomorrows inktober drawing early. I kinda like how it turned out.

[Anonymous No.3653084]

>>3652834
This is the most recent tging I did with a reference... I'm just starting... Please enlighten me. >>3652816
>>3652816
I will try doing it again later when I learn more thank you

[Anonymous No.3653104]

>>3653008
Measured horizontally, did not measure vertically at the initial circle and chin. Everything is warped and I'm restarting.

[Anonymous No.3653108]

What can I do to improve this drawing? I feel I lost a little of something in the lineart (like energy? substance? oompf?). I really like how am I going so far, but I can't help to see that it could be a lot better.

[Anonymous No.3653112]

Hi, /ic/. I'm a turbonewcomer to drawing, and after a very brief period of using paper and pencils I bought myself a drawing tablet. A Wacom Cintiq 13HD, to be precise. Most of my pen and paper stuff amounted to freedrawing and poor studies of nonsense.

How do I get around to actually learning, top to bottom with the tablet? What are some must-have guides, tutorials or somesuch? What brushes should I use? DPI? Resolution? Any special tools? I bought Clip Paint Studio if that makes any difference.

[Anonymous No.3653125]

>>3653112
it's really just a matter of getting used to the software. dpi and resolution don't really matter, the higher they are the more you can zoom in before things start looking pixelated with smaller brushes

[Anonymous No.3653130]

>>3651001

[Anonymous No.3653150]

>>3653108
exaggerate the gesture, if you were to draw a gesture line for that drawing you would see that it's more of a line than a curve.

[Anonymous No.3653199]

>>3652965
attempt #2

[Anonymous No.3653237]

>>3653199
I shoved it into GIMP and addressed some of the glaring issues. Ear, neck, forehead were all realigned as well as the lip under the nose.

[Anonymous No.3653260]

I don't have to use traditional, right.

[Anonymous No.3653303]

There isn't a "Dumb Questions" thread so I hope you don't mind me asking two here:
> Someone mentioned that a peave of theirs was that new artists thought porn and free lancing were the only way to make money with art. What other art jobs are there that aren't gallery/full on industry jobs?
> Can anyone recommend a book for using markers, please?
Also, yeah, critique on the piece would be great too.

[Anonymous No.3653309]

I know that I didnt apply anatomy study well and the shading is off, but please give me critics.

[Anonymous No.3653311]

I wanted to draw the skull first, but I feel like there's something fucky about the anatomy on the lower jaw, does it look off to anyone else?

[Anonymous No.3653326]

>>3653311
the problem here is you don't understand perspective or anatomy

[Anonymous No.3653330]

probably a weird question but how difficult is it to draw 'references' from 'imagination' if that makes sense? for example, you want to draw a celebrity or some shit but you dont want to just copy a pic, you want draw them from a specific angle with a csrtain expression but an exact ref doesnt exist so you piece together from a few?

[Anonymous No.3653335]

I-I am still b-beg?

[Anonymous No.3653336]

>>3653326
That's why I posted the question, yes.
>>3653330
That seems about the right way to do it. It would also be helpful to grab images or use a model of a generic head shape to represent the angle/expression you're going for

[Anonymous No.3653340]

>>3653330
Yes, you will have to study various references of said celebrity's face till you figure out their structure, then rebuilt it on your drawing. It is not something beginner would be easily pull off, however

[Anonymous No.3653344]

>>3653330
If you want your drawings to look like this, sure.

[Anonymous No.3653381]

/biz/raeli and /fit/bro reporting in

I just started lurking this board, read the sticky and what not, and had a go with the first tutorial.

How is it?

[Anonymous No.3653396]

>>3653381

[Anonymous No.3653399]

>think I just understood how viewpoints work
>check the cube I drew
>barely 1 of the intersections (???) are right
am I retarded

[Anonymous No.3653404]

>>3653381
Good, now start working with basic forms starting with the humble box form. Pic related.

[Anonymous No.3653406]

[Anonymous No.3653407]

>>3653399
Dont worry, keep doing it. Rome wasnt built in a day

[Anonymous No.3653413]

>>3653404
>that Filename

1000eoy

[Anonymous No.3653419]

>>3653413
We love you faggots, whether it's a good day or a bad day you can always leave with a smile.

[Anonymous No.3653429]

>>3653344
Who drew this garbage?

[Anonymous No.3653432]

>>3653407
help me I'm burning out my few precious brain cells

[Anonymous No.3653433]

>>3652225

[Anonymous No.3653452]

>>3653432
Looks pretty decent my nibba
What's wrong with it u think

[Anonymous No.3653457]

>>3653452
I can't wrap my mind around the fact that the physical laws of reality clearly state a square and this cubes have 90 degree corners but a perspectivized cube doesnt

[Anonymous No.3653458]

is this right

[Anonymous No.3653459]

>>3653457
Well, take the top cube in your pic. If you tilt the rear of the cube downwards, the direct angle between the line leading to the rear corner and the vertical line at the front must necessarily become greater than 90 degrees, at least visually.

[Anonymous No.3653460]

>>3653433
man hands and features. gotta soften them for females. not so angular. more curvy

[Anonymous No.3653462]

>>3653399
Notice how some of the edges of the box diverge. That's bad. You should practice more boxes with and without using a ruler. Then you'll need to practice drawing through your boxes too.

>>3653432
You're not going to get that exercise if you can't even understand not to have the edges of a box diverge. Put it off for now.

[Anonymous No.3653468]

>>3653462
wot is diverge

[Anonymous No.3653470]

>>3653458
Yes, keep going and don't ask us to hold your hand, it's not gonna get easier from here.

[Anonymous No.3653472]

>>3653468
The red arrow isn't travelling to the same vanishing point as the black arrows. It's diverging. This is really bad. Get rid of this bad habit completely.

[Anonymous No.3653475]

>>3653472
gotcha, this is why I can't read books, I need words and meanings spoonfed to me by another anon
when I try one of those books written by some 160 IQ savant in the 70's it's like I'm looking at a wall of hieroglyphics
god I wish I had a basic grasp of the english language let alone one of drawing

[Anonymous No.3653484]

i am offended

[Anonymous No.3653488]

>>3653309
Anyone?

[Anonymous No.3653490]

>>3653475
you might, and considering where we are its rather likely, be a visual learner instead
I know I am.

[Anonymous No.3653498]

>>3653112
Anyone else who can give me some pointers?

>>3653125
Just mess around with all the settings until I know my way around I guess?

[Anonymous No.3653507]

>>3652623
Looks a bit too homogenous imo. I'd suggest learning some fundamentals of composition if you want to get better.

[Anonymous No.3653562]

>>3652806
>>3652834
thanks.
here's my current progress.

[Anonymous No.3653565]

>>3653150
thank you anon, I'll try.

[Anonymous No.3653570]

>>3653562
dude stop

[Anonymous No.3653574]

>>3653562
your lines are actually pretty good, but does your ball sack look like that?

[Anonymous No.3653575]

I don't want to potentially bump something important off the catalog, so sorry if it's not the right place to ask, but does anyone here have experience with the XP-Pen Deco 03?

[Anonymous No.3653576]

>>3653562
>that face on the girl
holy fuck stop

[Anonymous No.3653587]

>>3653562
this looks like something police would find in the shoebox of a serial killer

[Anonymous No.3653687]

guy, where/how can I learn to digital paint?
mine always looks like it was done in mspaint with a mouse

[Anonymous No.3653688]

>>3653562
please for the love of anything remotely good in this world delete this image from your harddrive immediately

[Anonymous No.3653695]

I'm doing the drawabox stuff and got a question about the rotated boxes that I feel the guy didn't make clear enough.

I understand that as a box moves e.g. right in the image, the VP that used to be in the exact middle (for the center box) moves to the left, and the other VP from the side moves closer to the center. Same thing, but vertically, when you move to a box that's above a previous one.

So I'm assuming the VPs for the red box in the attached pic would be as I've written there? Since the red box hasn't moved horizontally compared to the box underneath it, the VPs on the left and right haven't moved horizontally either, but since the box has moved vertically, those VPs have still moved along the Y-axis. Same thing compared with the box next to it, but moving on the other axis. And that's why the third VP (which was in the very center for the center box), has moved on both axes when compared to the center box. Correct?

I know the whole exercise is about estimating and getting a feel for space, but the guy only explains that you can approximately guess based on the neighboring boxes' edges, which doesn't really help understand what exactly is happening at all.

[Anonymous No.3653696]

>>3653687
Try ctrlpaint tutorials, do the first ones that teach you some basics.

Stop using lineart in the final product (you can be painterly with line too, but just for simplicity). This will absolutely wreck you because you don't have lines as a crutch. You will be forced to learn value and edge.

Take some pictures that you like and copy them without using lineart.

[Anonymous No.3653698]

>>3653695
I think you're better off with scott robertson's how to draw book if you want in depth analytical perspective design. Most other places want you to just get a feel for form and perspective, as they're things that end up being natural eventually.

[Anonymous No.3653700]

>>3653687
Essentially understand that lines solid black lines rarely exist in the real world.

This is something you can learn when you start shading objects, you can start simple and work on cubes, spheres and cones. Use lines on the initial sketch but from then on when you're in the shading portion you want to define edges with color changes.

[Anonymous No.3653701]

>>3653698
I'll keep that in mind and might go for it as well. But for now I'd like to stick with this.

[Anonymous No.3653702]

I'm checking out "Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain" and I'm trying to autistically follow the list of stuff she suggests you get to do the exercises.
One of the things she says to get is a non-permanent fine point sharpie.
This does not appear to exist?

[Anonymous No.3653704]

>>3653702
just use a pen, any pen will do, but you probably want something without flow variation like a fineliner or felt tip

[Anonymous No.3653734]

okay well?

[Anonymous No.3653739]

>>3653734
looks alright

[Anonymous No.3653744]

>>3651968
Practice gesture and do some figure drawings/study poses similar to what you're trying to recreate.

If your character is doing some kind of tackle-block, push the movement to reinforce that.

[Anonymous No.3653747]

>>3653744
Also, sorry about the size of these. Need to figure out how to resize shit on my phone.

[Anonymous No.3653760]

>>3653562
my dick

[Anonymous No.3653775]

I drew a sketch of what was supposed to be a young make character. It looked fine to me. But when I shaded the drawing he tuned out looking much older. I tried to go over wrinkles and stuff but he still looks like a man in his 40s. Any tips on where I went wrong?

[Anonymous No.3653778]

>>3653775
blend

[Anonymous No.3653782]

>>3652123
everything here is usually a hit or miss

[Anonymous No.3653787]

>>3653778
ok, I tried a quick blurring but he still looks overly old, just "younger" skin. even if I adjust the opacity and go over lines and blend them further. I feel like the mouth is too wide and the jaw/chin are too big but I'm not sure how to draw him looking masculine but not old. Any hints

[Anonymous No.3653798]

Started drawing 3 days ago so I don't have a good eye for whats off here... I think it's the forehead?

[Anonymous No.3653799]

>>3653798
Posting upside down hoping it flips it right side up

[Anonymous No.3653803]

>>3653799
>>3653798

Brows and Lashes look like pubes. You want to try clumping them into strands.
>pic sorta related

[Anonymous No.3653827]

Please help, I'm proud of this. Tear it to pieces so I am always striving to improve.

[Anonymous No.3653834]

>>3653803
Eyelashes were easy enough but i tried doing thick eyebrows that way and its pretty much the same

[Anonymous No.3653835]

>>3653827
did you do charles bargue's course

[Anonymous No.3653837]

>>3653835
I did a study of the eye plates quite a bit. His other stuff I only touched briefly here and there.

[Anonymous No.3653846]

>>3653406
Cute so I tried drawing over it. Hope it's of use.

[Anonymous No.3653847]

>>3653834
Not gonna lie, I got a good chuckle out of the fact that your images are still not properly transformed.

For the eyebrows I draw a bunch of little lines that rotate as they taper out. Here's the original version, maybe you can get a closer look at how I do the eyebrows.

[Anonymous No.3653848]

>>3653837
yeah, the neck and eyes are very bargue, i like it though good job.

[Anonymous No.3653850]

>>3653847
Transformed? And thanks ill try that

[Anonymous No.3653853]

>>3653850
Rotation is a type of transform, same thing really.

[Anonymous No.3653857]

>>3650395
>I'm done with drawing heads for now
No you arent. You are still symbol drawing. Go back to Loomis and realize that reading a book is not the same as studying a book. Yo have read it, maybe, But certainly didnt study it.

>>3650472
If you are 13, yes, you are or at least can be an artist. If you are past 20, then you are not going to make it unless you put some serious grinding. There is a chance sure, but you will need to be methodic and use a really grindy approach to cover for all those lost years.

>>3650769
>>3650845
>>3651001
Dont symbol draw. Also Loomis. For the waifu painter, get a better reference.

>>3650872
Keep working, promising enough.

>>3650904
You will thank /ic/ in less than you imagine.

>>3651040
Already better than most of /ic/

>>3651469
Never if you dont grind fundies. Dont draw stuff you like, dont have fun. Grind the boring perspective, anatomy exercises. Might even go as far as suggest line practice since yours are timid and clumsy.

>>3651482
Nice, almost not /beg/

>>3651545
>>3652884
Not ready for digital, back to pencil and paper

>>3651705
You wont make it by copying other people's styles. Yes, that includes manga.

>>3652617
>>3652435
>>3653311
>>3653562
Do not indulge in extreme stylization at the beginning. You are using it as a crutch. Thats not "your style".

>>3652965
breddy good. it looks somehow off but seeing the reference you used its pretty good. You are working hard by choosing non conventional heads. Keep up

>>3653084
Please tell me you are under 15 yo

>>3653381
I hope your shitcoin portfolio is better than your drawings but at least you will soon be so rich you will be able to pay ruan jia for personal teaching. May I know you rank, marine?

>>3653827
You kinda ruined it there

>>3653803
>>3653787
LOOMIS, DONT SYMBOL DRAW REEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.3653860]

>>3653857
>>>3653827(You)
>You kinda ruined it there

How?

>>>3653803(You)
>>>3653787
>LOOMIS, DONT SYMBOL DRAW REEEEEEE
That's an old image from March of this Year.

[Anonymous No.3653866]

Sauce on OP?

[Anonymous No.3653966]

>>3653857
Not under 15 years old but why? Should I not try and draw from pictures? Would that not help me improve this is like the 5th drawing I did if doodling in my textbooks doesn't count .. But all of this doesn't matter.. Is it that horrible? I Can sort of tell that some things are wrong I'm no good at shading too but.. Should I never let anyone see what i draw?is it that horrible that it would be a joke to show it to anyone?

[Anonymous No.3653987]

>>3653966
That anon is just a shitposter, 90% of his responses are generic insults that don't even give a hint as to what could possibly be wrong.

[Anonymous No.3654083]

Looking for criticism on fire effect and lighting, I can't figure out a good glow technique

[Anonymous No.3654085]

am I doing this right? also tips please

[Anonymous No.3654098]

>>3653966
Try tracing over photos first to get an idea of what an accurate copy would look like. I personally prefer copying anime lineart as the test of whether you're accurate enough to move on to the other fundamentals in the sticky (you should be able to fap to your copy). Also you're more likely to get a critique if you post the reference you used.

[Anonymous No.3654110]

>>3653857
Wow. Post your work.

[Anonymous No.3654133]

>>3654098
Not him but ive been told to avoid anime lineart.

[Anonymous No.3654168]

How is it

[Anonymous No.3654171]

>>3654085
seems about right. I'd say the fat looks a little too lumpy, I'd try making it look more natural (droopier, with folds)

[Anonymous No.3654285]

>>3653460

well thnks for the advice, hands are not my thing

[Anonymous No.3654286]

Is there anything specific I can do to get better at specifically proportions? I feel like a mega autist because I always seem to fuck that up even drawing boxes.

[Anonymous No.3654288]

>>3654286
proportions are a lie

[Anonymous No.3654290]

>>3654288
How do I wrap my head around that concept without the help of psychedelics?

[Anonymous No.3654298]

I'm having some trouble with getting proper line weight.
is it just the outline of something is thicker and the inside is thinner?
or is the thickness based on how drastic the change between planes are?

[Anonymous No.3654311]

>>3650904
nigga fell for the loomis meme

[Anonymous No.3654323]

>>3652329
>>3652335
I think I did something wrong with the torso on this one

[Anonymous No.3654338]

Thoughts? where to improve?

[Anonymous No.3654342]

>>3654338
It looks good in the thumbnail

[Anonymous No.3654408]

pls someone help me understand line weight

[Anonymous No.3654437]

>>3654323

that face.. yeah not only the torso anon..

[Anonymous No.3654474]

>>3654437
Which one?

[Anonymous No.3654493]

>>3654437
Oh, no, I see it now.
I can't be assed to fix the dude any more than this, but his spine was a tiny fucking thing

[Anonymous No.3654546]

>>3654408
no criticism bc i dont know how either, but cute style

[Anonymous No.3654655]

Do you actually need to learn bone anatomy? Like isnt general body proportions and muscles enough?

[Anonymous No.3654656]

>>3654338
i like it

[Anonymous No.3654673]

>>3654655
Some parts of the body don't have muscle covering the skeleton.

[Anonymous No.3654701]

hi /ic/, I feel I'm on the right track but I need a little help. I'm learning values and colouring, pic related. I'm trying rendering hair.
my process was black/white values -> add colour on a separate layer (overlay mode)
it's a good start, but it's still kinda off. what is missing? some red? and how shoudl fix it?

[Anonymous No.3654711]

>>3654701
Get your values right first. You totally missed the core shadow. Look how spheres are rendered and compare.
It's pretty obvious in the thumbnail that the darkest part of the hair is in the top left of her head.

[Anonymous No.3654722]

>>3654711
i wasn't looking for copying the reference, all I wanted to get from it is the general feeling, colour. I simplified (maybe too much?) just to make things easier and to concentrate on colouring and rendering.
Bad move? Should I restart and get the exact values from the reference?

[Anonymous No.3654738]

>>3654701
if you look at the photo, you've done the exact opposite of the light values represented there. its clearly lightest on the extreme edges of the hair and darkest on the inside. change the outline in regards to that

[Anonymous No.3654746]

ive spent far too much time on this for what it is but i want to keep going, am i fucked

[Anonymous No.3654751]

>>3654738
you're right. I'm definitely going to do it.
Should I merge the outline in this phase? While I'm painting the values?

[Anonymous No.3654754]

I genuinely can't figure out how to render this anymore or make it look better. Anybody got any ideas or criticisms?

My main goal was to paint from imagination and become more familiar with skin color.

[Anonymous No.3654760]

>>3654746
Your eyes are a bit flat, also that area between nose and top lips seems a bit too large. Hard to tell though if it's just the reference.

[Anonymous No.3654762]

>>3654754
Eyes and lips are very symbolized, you might want to take some time to properly construct them.

[Anonymous No.3654763]

>>3652363
its hard because your monkey hands aren't made for it and you dont know how to draw what you see over what you think

[Anonymous No.3654771]

>>3654751
my use of the word 'outline' might be a little misleading, the outline doesnt really exist. i think the main issue is that you see a shape like a head and think it needs an outline because shapes must have outlines, but this isn't so. treat the "outline" in the exact same way you treat everything else, with reference to the photo and reality. if there's no particular difference in value between the head and the background, dont force one to exist.

[Anonymous No.3654773]

>>3654760
yeah i thought that as well. now that you mention it the eyes are real flat, thanks

[Anonymous No.3654774]

>>3654754
not too bad, but definitely too symmetrical. if you want to become more familiar with skin colour, dont paint from imagination, paint from reference. the shading is a little grey also, but there are good parts, like bits of the nose are quite nice

[Anonymous No.3654778]

>>3654771
Right. Thanks a lot, anon.

[Anonymous No.3654780]

>>3654778
Refer to this reference to understand what the other anon said. Notice that there is no black lines being used to outline the shape.

[Anonymous No.3654781]

>>3654780
https://www.deviantart.com/wlop/art/23-tiny-wishes-717982390

[Anonymous No.3654806]

>>3654778
welcome hopefully u engage with it, i thought the drawing was pretty good in terms of brushwork.
i dont know much about digital but fundamentals are the same for all fields. values, in the shading sense, are the most important thing to learn imo and they aren't easy to perfect.

[Anonymous No.3654808]

>>3654780
yup, thanks for clarifying that.
i have a dark gray outline because first I've sketched the piece on a layer and then on a separate layer I coloured it. I didn't know when to merge the sketch with the colours.

[Anonymous No.3654822]

>>3654806
Sorry, I didn't see your reply when I wrote to >>3654780!
Thanks a lot to you too, I really appreciate that. I'll work on values.

[Anonymous No.3654827]

well okay?

[Anonymous No.3654873]

>>3654338
I like it, but you could work on your mid-tones. Either really dark or really light at the moment.

[Anonymous No.3654875]

>>3654408
Lots of ways you could use line weight. Try picking something like direction of light, how close something is, the outer contours, etc. And focus on building the line weight around that one idea.

Currently no cohesiveness to the line weight in that sketch.

[Anonymous No.3654944]

>>3654133
It's for accuracy practice and not for any gesture/anatomy study. At any rate, if you're incapable of copying anime, you're not ready to move on to the other fundamentals.

[Anonymous No.3654953]

line weight pic

[Anonymous No.3654967]

line weight pic 2

[Anonymous No.3655113]

New thread:

>>3655112
>>3655112
>>3655112

[Anonymous No.3655286]

advice?

[Anonymous No.3655690]

Absolute beginner here going thru Loomis book

I practiced a couple sketches by copying the references and I just completed my first face without looking at any references. How is it? Rate plsss

[Anonymous No.3655803]

>>3655690
I tried drawing different angles of the same face. Ples give feedback frens

[Anonymous No.3655804]

>>3655803
Oops here the image

[Anonymous No.3655832]

>>3655690
Work on your lines before you start a bad habit. You're going over and over the same line because you're nervous. Swooping, flowing lines, don't be afraid.

[Anonymous No.3655856]

>>3655832
shieet u right
after practicing drawing the balls and lines, I can see the mistakes I've been making.
thanks

[Anonymous No.3655969]

>>3650570
i dont know
i have drawn since i was a kid but never took classes or was serious about it
sometimes i think about it

[Anonymous No.3655974]

>>3655969 was meant for >>3650847

[Anonymous No.3656351]

>>3653309
Learn values first....forget color for now.
I know that sounds no fun, but it will produce the most fruit.

[Anonymous No.3656996]

here's my recreation of a windigo assuming humanoid form.
any thoughts?