Moebius

[Anonymous No.3628256]

>discover Moebius
>completely fall in love with his work
>start seeing his techniques everywhere
>literally all my favourite artists exhibit influences and styles that have been seemingly borrowed from Moebius

I actually know fuck all about who he was as a person or how well received his work was back in the day, but I want to know just how influential was this guy exactly? Was he considered a pioneer of the time?

Also, Moebius general.

[Anonymous No.3628258]

>>3628256
snore

[Anonymous No.3628260]

>>3628258
post your work.

[Anonymous No.3628262]

>>3628260
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[Anonymous No.3628278]

>>3628260
Why?

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[Anonymous No.3628287]

He's one of my biggest inspirations as well! I really recommend that you watch that documentary about how him and Jodorowsky were trying to make Dune into a movie. This project was just too good to come true.

[Anonymous No.3628299]

moebius is the goat but /ic/ is too obsessed with lolis to care. sorry op

[Anonymous No.3628300]

>>3628256
He was a big influence on Miyazaki too

[Anonymous No.3628302]

>>3628299
This.

>>3628256
I was watching a david finch video and he said he sometimes tries moebius-esque rendering. Pretty interesting how deep his influence goes.

[Anonymous No.3628305]

>>3628302
>>3628300
I don't think I've ever seen him mention it, but I think Moebius must have been a big influence on Tomer Hanuka too.

[Anonymous No.3628310]

is there a .zip or a compilation of ALL of his works, shit would be mad neat, plus he passed away a few years ago so no one gets hurted by it

[Anonymous No.3628326]

>>3628256
Based Moebius-poster

He was super influential, did work on Alien, Tron, Willow. Along with Chris Foss and HR Giger he workd on the original Dune movie that never got made but basically became the blueprint for Star Wars. The Fifth Element is supposedly pretty much an adaptation of the Incal but I've never seen it.

Try to pick up his comics if you can- the art is phenomenal even if the writing passable at best and trash at worst.

[Anonymous No.3628340]

>>3628256
No Moebius, no Cyberpunk(as a visual style) Very influential. My favourite sci-fi comic artist along with Mezieres(pic related)

[Anonymous No.3628345]

>>3628326
Moebius and Mezieres both directly worked with Luc Besson for the Fifth Element. It's more like a Valerian movie than Incal. It's too bad that the Valerian film was an abortion.

[Anonymous No.3628352]

>>3628256
Moebius is overrated weebshit.
When will /ic/ stop sucking off animefags?

[Anonymous No.3628381]

/ic/ only cares about crap overrated artist like Ruan Jia or Sakimichan.

[Anonymous No.3628392]

>>3628256
here's a list of things he inspired:
http://deimos-remus.tumblr.com/post/159726757139/100-illustrators-that-all-illustrators-should

good fuckin taste anon

[Anonymous No.3628396]

>>3628352
at least you bought a copy. wholesome anon

[Anonymous No.3628512]

>>3628392
>katsuya terada

Mah nigga.

[Anonymous No.3628518]

>>3628256
He was a monster in the 70's and 80's, because of Heavy Metal magazine and his influence in the world of sci fi overall. If anyone says different, they're just being a snotty teenager who doesn't get his favorite anime artists probably loved and were inspired by him.

And, he didn't focus on boobs, so the autists here hate him.

[Anonymous No.3628520]

>>3628326
He did some work for Alien, too - I think the white helmets they wore were from his sketches.

[Anonymous No.3628544]

>>3628518
on that note, here's some Druillet, who got some obscure influence compared to moebius, but no little on moebius, at least during the métal hurlant years. Like that page from the incal with the well and brutal perspective
Also darth vador and classics adaptations

[Anonymous No.3628553]

>>3628544
Wow you can really see the influences.

God this guy has been so influential on history. Makes you sad to imagine all the other people that could have been as great, if not greater, but never came to be because of circumstance. Wonder however many potential Moebius' died in childhood or were never enabled or encouraged to do art.

[Anonymous No.3628581]

>>3628553
>Wow you can really see the influences.
is that supposed to be ironic ?
Giraud came from an academic background, both in art and then comics, the opposite of Druillet who was self-taught and very free in his compositions and colors, notably. They founded Métal Hurlant together with Jean-Pierre Dionnet, who for our interest I'll describe as not a graphic artist. You can as easily see in Druillet's art improvments in fundamentals over those years

[Anonymous No.3628582]

>>3628256
moebius' name is about as heavy as miyazaki. hard to believe you just discovered him.

[Anonymous No.3628584]

>>3628300
Moebius and Miyazaki were friends. Moebius named his daughter Nausicaa.

[Anonymous No.3628586]

>>3628582
some people aren't born old

[Anonymous No.3628601]

>>3628582
I've been drawing my entire life, but I stopped completely for a period of 7 years due to a heavy depression. I only started drawing again 2 years ago, and then it's only in the last year that I've actually become very serious about it. I'm only really "just" discovering art now, and it's wonderful.

[Anonymous No.3628604]

>>3628586
im 25.

generally interest is followed by research.

[Anonymous No.3628607]

>>3628601
Good on you anon.

Actually I'm learning to walk again, too. I'm learning my depressions patterns.

Let's keep enjoying the life we were given.

[Anonymous No.3628623]

>>3628604
And what preceeds interest ? I meant that you discover things when you grow up, and not in any particular order unless you're taught. I discovered Wrightson before Moebius and I'm french.

[Anonymous No.3628625]

>>3628623
>I'm french
haha. frog boy.

In all seriousness, I was just offended at someone not knowing of moebius.

[Anonymous No.3628660]

>>3628544
A lot of the people on these boards should go find the torrents of the complete Heavy Metal magazine runs, and read them all. Druillet, Mobius, Bilal, Caza, all the greats contributed to it. It's just fucking awesome stuff, and most of it is the foundation for later graphic novels and animation.
The rar I found is like 30 gigs, which is smaller than some games these days. Worth the time to find - be careful not to get the old ones, that are jpgs, find the comic book app format ones.
I'm aging myself, but I bought a lot of them new, as actual magazines. Wish I had kept them.

[Anonymous No.3628937]

>>3628352
>Moebius
>weebshit
1/10

[Anonymous No.3628955]

nice to see some Moebius art over here at /ic/

[Anonymous No.3629037]

>>3628625
>haha. frog boy.

Very mature.

[Anonymous No.3629284]

>>3628256
Once he hit his stride in the late 70's/early 80's and started cranking out the weird cross-hatched sci-fi stuff like La Deviation and The Airtight Garage, his influence was massive. Globally massive. Even if the average pleb on the street didn't know who he was, they were likely consuming output from artists who did. In Japan you can see his profound influence on an entire generation of creators, including Miyazaki, Makoto Kobayashi (the mech designer, not the What's Michael? creator), Katuya Terada, Katsuhiro Otomo and many more. In the West, his influence permeated into comics via Heavy Metal - ultimately concluding with him drawing a Silver Surfer comic for Stan Lee that's famously referenced in the film Crimson Tide when two Navy officers get into a fight over who drew the better Silver Surfer, Moebius or Jack Kirby - and then into films when he was hired for Jodorowsky's abortive Dune project, followed Alien, Tron, Willow, Masters of the Universe, and many other projects. Work he'd go on to create with Jodorowsky like The Incal then in turn inspired another generation of creativity and led to films like The Fifth Element. He also inspired many people in the current crop of digital/concept/entertainment artists, including the likes of Alexander "Zedig" Diboine.

If you want to know what kind of a man he was, look no further than this amazing documentary shot a few years before his death:

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5oijv5

[Anonymous No.3629294]

>>3629284
Thanks Anon, I'll watch that tonight.
Really fucking lovely to see there are people on this board with an enthusiasm for this kind of art.

[Anonymous No.3629307]

I appreciate his work, but I'm also a bit bored by it. I feel like he's at his best working under a writer, where his surreal imagery has more symbolic weight and the scenes are given a purpose. His standalone illustrations are too floaty and look like getting high and listening to prog rock sounds. Not knocking his skill and influence, it's just a thought I've had for a long time

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[Anonymous No.3629317]

>>3629307

I definitely understand, anon. For me though, his art holds a ton of weight despite being "floaty". I can't think of many other artists that managed to capture this kind of raw essence of beauty like Moebius did. Its like the guy was drunk off the tap of nature itself. Dunno. I just really enjoy art that has that fiery psychedelic feeling and Moebius did it better than anyone imo.

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[Anonymous No.3629325]

>>3629284
I don't think his massive influence is to be told from "cranking out the weird cross-hatched sci-fi stuff". He was successful at the international because he was an open man, rarely refusing projects. The Airtight Garage is more surrealist than sci-fi, much like La Déviation is fantastic. Also, his most influencial work, Arzach, was done in this style, just colorized.
And I find it a little insulting to make his Heavy Metal work ultimately concluding with making a comic with Stan Lee
At least the post is articulated, is that it ?
Good post though

[Anonymous No.3629354]

>>3628326
>did work on Alien
>He did some work for Alien, too
its like you can't read.

[Anonymous No.3629421]

I love this piece. Dude was a real master of his craft. I wonder how long it took him to spit this stuff out.

[Anonymous No.3629451]

>>3628512
Never heard of Moebius before this thread and after seeing his work I instantly got the hunch that Terada was inspired by the guy.

[Anonymous No.3629614]

>>3629325
Feels like you didn't really understand what I was trying to convey. Everyone in Europe loved Blueberry, but it was the completely surreal sci-fi stuff that got him worldwide attention and you can see evidence of that in how it's the period/style of his work that's most often mimicked. You also seem to have completely missed the point of what I was getting at with the Americanised release of Heavy Metal bringing him to US attention, specifically that it was the collaboration with Stan Lee on a Silver Surfer comic for Marvel that bought his work to the widest possible audience. I wasn't making any kind of comment on relative quality, simply pointing out what had the farthest reach. As much as I love Arzach, that's the thing people like James Cameron found later, after initial exposure to his more mainstream (outside of Europe) output.

[Anonymous No.3629617]

>>3629421
He was notoriously fast. The Incal was allegedly created in a weekend, with Jodorowsky dictating panels over Moebius's shoulder. He then cleaned up and inked the artwork, and a legendary comic was born. Apparently they used the same process earlier for the Dune storyboards, Moebius would draw at a furious pace while Jodorowsky narrated the story to him.

[Anonymous No.3629640]

>>3629617
I usually get shit on for this, but you can tell by his inks and washes. The gestures and rhythm are from a quick hand and washes like that are a one and done thing that you can't fiddle with or do slowly.
https://youtu.be/31eMG8MoXD8

[Anonymous No.3629658]

>>3629640
This one's fun.
https://youtu.be/tgQ0vKCZZ4E

[Anonymous No.3629684]

>>3629614
Tthat's also my point, the silver surfer comic is not what had the farthest reach, and even if wide, I doubt the widest. Getting to do a comic with Stan Lee made his popularity boom in the States more than anywhere else in the world. Arzach, on the other hand is still the most cited, referenced, copied influence amongst comic lovers. Arzach stood the test of time

And my bad, I tought crank out meant the opposite, sorry about that.

[Anonymous No.3629687]

>>3629658
>Tac au tac
my brother from another dimension

[Anonymous No.3629693]

>>3629640
You're on spot, when he drew slower it would look like what Bilal did when he was emulating him. Speed is a major component of his style, and what is impressive with his art is the amount of fundies he got through to be able to use it so freely, and then what he did with it.

[Anonymous No.3629710]

>>3629693
It's impressive for someone who can only draw 4 different lines. Contour, hatch against the contour , kindergarten bushes, and stipple.

[Anonymous No.3629713]

>>3628305

God those guns though, really ruins the piece.

[Anonymous No.3629777]

>>3628607
>Let's keep enjoying the life we were given.
Don't tell me what to do cock sucker

[Anonymous No.3629794]

>>3628352
When will the west do something better?

[Anonymous No.3629898]

>>3629684
That's exactly what I was referring to - his popularity blowing up in the states specifically.

[Anonymous No.3629912]

Windsor McKay > Moebius
upsetting to some, but true

[Anonymous No.3629914]

Windsor McKay > Moebius
upsetting to some, but true

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[Anonymous No.3629934]

>>3629922
imo he doesn't even come close to touching Moebius.

[Anonymous No.3629943]

>>3629421
See now this feels real to me, everything else looks artificial.

[Anonymous No.3630022]

Indeed, OP. I fucking wish I could borrow from his style, everything about it.

[Anonymous No.3630378]

>>3629898
>In the West, his influence permeated into comics via Heavy Metal - ultimately concluding with him drawing a Silver Surfer comic for Stan Lee
sorry I did not read your mind

[Anonymous No.3630450]

I always thought the artwork of Lennus was Moebius like.
Does anyone know who the artist was?

[Anonymous No.3630539]

>>3630450
後藤啓介 / Keisuke Goto.
You won't find much without using his Japanese name in Google though.

[Anonymous No.3630570]

>>3630539
Thanks, I really like his artwork!

[Anonymous No.3630686]

>>3629914
>>3629922
Not even a fraction of the charm Moebius's work has

[Anonymous No.3630691]

>>3630686

not the anon comparing him to Moebius, but W McCay was arguably one of the most important pioneers of comic illustration and the fantasy genre. He also made some of the first animations that were getting close to what Walt Disney would improve on later. Comparing the two is silly, but I would say that Moebius definitely had a look at McCays work. It's a bit speculative, but he might have even drawn a fair amount of inspiration from his coloring, his bird eye perspective drawings and some of the characters and creatures. Look at the tribal folks in those pics. McCays body of work is enourmous.
And yes, it has a lot of charm. Just a different one. I would say that Moebius' worlds that he created and the respective inhabitants is a more lonely, more mature space, while McCay is of course more aimed at children and dreams.

[Anonymous No.3630722]

This is a quality thread. A long time since I paused drawing just to read something on here. Please keep it up anons!

[Anonymous No.3630738]

>>3630722
Fuck off faggot

[Anonymous No.3630740]

>>3628256
>tfw someone else has hopped on Moebius's dick
Always a great feel. Welcome to the fan club, OP

[Anonymous No.3632098]

I recommend Jodorowsky's Dune. I still can't wrap my head around on how this madman managed to get all those talented people to work with him.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jodorowsky%27s_Dune

[Anonymous No.3632197]

>>3632098
The man is a charmer.

[Anonymous No.3632214]

>>3628256
>>3628310
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[Anonymous No.3632648]

>>3629934
lil nemo predates moebius. the date is in the corner.

[Anonymous No.3632650]

>>3630691
>>3632648
+ thumbnail. dude drew fanart

[Anonymous No.3632844]

i've always tought moebius was a shitty version of hiroshi yoshida

[Anonymous No.3632847]

>>3632844
here is a work of hiroshi yoshida, my bad.

[Anonymous No.3632855]

>>3628601
>>3628607

I'm kind of in the same boat, I stopped drawing for 4 or 5 years until I read AKIRA, when I ran across Moebius' art I was surprised by how much he influenced Otoumo.

I really should read Moebius' comics... where's a good place to start?

[Anonymous No.3633053]

>>3632844
you were always wrong
First for thinking moebius is shitty
Then for linking those two, what the heck have they in common that would justify a hard-headed comparison ?
But thank you for the discovery, I suppose that's it.

[Anonymous No.3633074]

>>3632648
>>3632650
ha!
yeah i expected that. there's a relation in their works.

[Anonymous No.3634218]

>>3628256
To not know Jean Giraud, you must either be very young, or not into comics.

[Anonymous No.3634220]

Moebius is animetier trash

[Anonymous No.3634281]

>>3634218
I'm 27 and desu whilst I like comics, I only really read Dark Horse and DC.

[Anonymous No.3634513]

>>3628300
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2L0YgdIpXas

[Anonymous No.3634515]

>>3628258
cringe

[Anonymous No.3634576]

>>3632214
good man.