/beg/ - BEGINNER ART THREAD

[Anonymous No.3623960]

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the Drawthread with our fundamental exercises.

Previous Thread >>3619680

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, do not give up, make someone proud.

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS:
1)
>screenshot the image and post that instead
2)
>change camera capture settings to something smaller
3)
>send to computer and resize in MSPaint

Sticky: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

TRY TO GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK - many studies are left unreplied, which is a bit sad and can be quite demotivating for the people that try their best to improve, but are left directionless.

"Success is no accident. It is hard work, perseverance, learning, studying, sacrifice and most of all, love of what you are doing or learning to do."

[Anonymous No.3624010]

day 2 getting a little better. kinda just churning out crap, still learning how 2pen

[Anonymous No.3624015]

>>3623864
I have been drawing "realistic" human faces and learning about the proportions as well. I just wanted to do that to test out my ability to color and shade, and I didn't do a very good job of either.

[Anonymous No.3624016]

>>3624010
May I see the reference you used, before I post a critique?

[Anonymous No.3624020]

>>3623960
I drew a pretty wonky and thin barn on the side of the road

[Anonymous No.3624026]

>>3624020
I refined the image for you, OP so the ic critics could see your lines and rendering better.

[Anonymous No.3624044]

>>3624020
Use a ruler anon. You wouldn't get wonky buildings if you used one since in 1 point perspective. Are you reading Perspective Made Easy?

[Anonymous No.3624049]

>>3624026
The lines in barn door are tripping my brain.

The (right) door is drawn to open to inside of the barn. So the door should be receding from us. But the three horizontal lines (boards?) are drawn to come towards us, thus looking like the door is opened to outside of the barn.

The three horizontal boards on the right hand side door should be drawn higher, so that they are on level with the left side doors boards on the right most side.

The one point perspective and the lines receding to vanishing point are done well, but try to focus also on your horizontals and verticals.

Also if you want to do landscapes, try to focus on values. Strong values and most texture on the foreground, and most light and soft stuff on the background / horizon.

Work towards stronger values by doing thumbnails (like 3x2 inches / 7x4cm) quick sketches that just show horizon, some light background and darker stronger foreground.

[Anonymous No.3624068]

>>3624049
>>3624044
>>3624026
OK thanks anon(s)

[Anonymous No.3624152]

[Anonymous No.3624155]

>>3624152
#660 something

[Anonymous No.3624156]

>>3624155
#670

[Anonymous No.3624166]

[Anonymous No.3624170]

>>3624156
last one for now; #675 / 2000 (i assume i will not have mastered lolis by the time i'd given it 2000 tries. so it will then be increase to 5000 tries if that what happens)

[Anonymous No.3624218]

>>3624016
Sure.

[Anonymous No.3624259]

>>3624010
AHAHAHAHAHA HE REFERENCED YEVS SHITTY ART 10/10 GOOD LUCK

[Anonymous No.3624304]

Do you have your own "ideal" learning curriculum? An order of books and videos you think works best?

[Anonymous No.3624349]

>>3624304
Read perspective made easy first, after that it's a matter of preference.

[Anonymous No.3624381]

>>3624259
Of course Why do you think it came out so shitty? :^)

[Anonymous No.3624387]

>>3624304
Draw from life/ref, support with whatever book you want. Reading is good even for artists.

[Anonymous No.3624400]

Trying to get better at figure drawing using construction, gesture, etc. but I feel as though I need to learn anatomy if I want to draw people from imagination or even from ref without just copying

[Anonymous No.3624444]

>>3624152
disgusting pedo in your disgusting pedo den gtfo

[Anonymous No.3624471]

>>3624444
>im gifted with the power of being a complete retard and i'll attempt to make people angry with my incessant screeching

[Anonymous No.3624491]

About to post some stuff, if anyone wants to give me some critique and love.

[Anonymous No.3624494]

>>3624491

[Anonymous No.3624495]

>>3624494

[Anonymous No.3624500]

>>3624491
https://line-of-action.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing

[Anonymous No.3624523]

>>3624491
>>3624494
>>3624495
quickposes.com

[Anonymous No.3624577]

Got any good acrylic painting technique resources?
It seems that most youtube tutorials are very amateurish

[Anonymous No.3624610]

I have an idea on how to get better at anatomy.
If I draw a picture (pic related) without reference, while trying to represent muscles and structure etc as best as I can, that drawing will represent my unconscious understanding of anatomy. in this pic there are (so many) flaws. the right leg is too short, and I really really really have no fucking clue about the ab muscles, obliques, or pecks. If i post an unreff'd picture, someone can tell me all the specifics that are just completely fucking wrong, and then I can find a reference to target that specific concept and learn it.

if this is a terrible idea, someone can also tell me and then I won't do this

[Anonymous No.3624626]

>>3624610
Fucking just do the research on a part you don't understand, try again and repeat.

[Anonymous No.3624629]

>>3624626
obviously. but the set of total flaws is larger than the set of flaws I'm aware of

[Anonymous No.3624636]

>>3624629
Do the shit you're aware of.

[Anonymous No.3624640]

>>3624636
will do chief

[Anonymous No.3624654]

Honestly, how do some of you critic anons reccomended I do? I feel like I'm too focused on practice but as a result I don't find time for myself to draw completed works because I feel afraid that parts that I'm not good yet will turn out like ass.

[Anonymous No.3624655]

>>3624654
art is not a hobby for the fearful

[Anonymous No.3624659]

>>3624654
practice anyway. something i do, is even if its a butcher like it most likely'll be anyway, i finish it. you should at least complete 1 image at least every 2 weeks based off what you've learned.

[Anonymous No.3624668]

recently started fucking around with mspaint, but ive never really spent any time on this board.
definitely a beginner though, made for /bb/ (RIP til january)

howd i do?

[Anonymous No.3624669]

>>3624654
Art is never finished, only abandoned.

[Anonymous No.3624672]

>>3624668
this is the screencap i used to make it
im white btw ;) it was something the lady on the right actually said so it seemed appropriate

[Anonymous No.3624976]

day 3 . i could have done better gut kinda lazy on this one
ref
https://i.imgur.com/xD8fMYu.png

[Anonymous No.3625001]

Any recs for a little sketchpad and some starter ink pens?
I got this art book made by Alphonso Dunn and I'd like to start playing around with inking.
I'd put my general skill level at 'margin doodler'.

[Anonymous No.3625081]

Everyone use Instagram to post their arts, no?

[Anonymous No.3625090]

>>3625001
i'd put your skill level at /beg/

[Anonymous No.3625311]

test

[Anonymous No.3625398]

>>3623960
Does this look too much like the odst armour?

[Anonymous No.3625435]

The grind

[Anonymous No.3625442]

Some trying to be fun stuff

[Anonymous No.3625449]

More trying to be creative and paint

[Anonymous No.3625457]

What do you guys think?

[Anonymous No.3625585]

>>3624073
OK Left is most recent drawing (kinda half assed)
Bottom right is a good portrait picture
Top right is an OK pose picture by my standards.
My biggest weakness is hands and anatomy. I can draw faces well, though. Ive been drawing seriously every day since sept. 10 and I haven't looked at any drawing book, guide or reference for poses except for the details of the characters from ZUN art

[Anonymous No.3625586]

>>3625585
This is appealing.

[Anonymous No.3625593]

>>3624976
I tried to improve your sketch
still looks bad for my liking, tb h.

[Anonymous No.3625613]

>>3625593
I'm impressed my art was so bad, somebody hate sketched the source.
10/10

[Anonymous No.3625638]

Clueless ultranoob here. I have been given an ipad and that stylus thing as a gift. Can anyone suggest software? Paid, is ok, as I have also been given itunes cards from people who think I listen to music or watch tv, but I'd like to avoid a subscription.

I am so clueless, that I don't even have a solid idea of what objectives exist in kinds of art/formats, much less any goals in mind. The person who gave it to me is an accomplished Japanese brush caligrapher, and I'd like to send a thank you note in that form, but that's more of a general suggestion.

[Anonymous No.3625643]

>>3625638
krita is nice

[Anonymous No.3625647]

[Anonymous No.3625680]

I'm the same artist as >>3625647

Just wanted to post a few examples of stuff I'm trying, to see if anybody has any thoughts. Yes, I am very stylized, but I'm trying to move my art into a more realistic style, slowly

[Anonymous No.3625699]

>>3624218
>>3624010

[Anonymous No.3625748]

>>3623960
I did a thing and I'm proud of it.

[Anonymous No.3625753]

>>3625748
Fuck, I forgot to post the pic.

[Anonymous No.3625781]

before I go any further, is he in a good horse riding pose? On a completely unrelated note, how do you draw horses?

[Anonymous No.3625786]

>>3625647
>>3625680
I'm feeling spooked, so you did your job. The only critique I really have is that the head on the second one seems a bit too big, and the first one could use some more definition. The color blending left it feeling kind of "smudged"

[Anonymous No.3625790]

>>3625781
theta?

[Anonymous No.3625796]

>>3625790
no, my mommy said i'm an alpha man
i have no idea what you're talking about

[Anonymous No.3625809]

>>3625586
more like appaling :(

[Anonymous No.3625812]

>>3625643
Uh. I'm not seeing an IOS version of Krita. Am I missing something?

[Anonymous No.3625815]

>>3625809
>>3625585
Learn construction

[Anonymous No.3625824]

>>3625815
how do i learn construction

[Anonymous No.3625830]

>>3625824
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KfmA6cEpU0
I know, I know, but he does it in a digestible way

[Anonymous No.3625835]

>>3625824
not the other guy, but for drawing non humans, I practice by drawing basic 3d shapes in different perspectives, and by studying 1-3 point views (lots of stuff on youtube for that). Once you've got an idea of those, everything else is just putting those ideas together (the car is just a rectangle, same as the house, the exhaust is only a cylinder, etc)

[Anonymous No.3625856]

>>3625835
Foxbodies are literally just rectangles, thanks for the advice

[Anonymous No.3625863]

>>3625824

Read the sticky.

[Anonymous No.3625864]

Hey lads, my junkie friend sold me his drawing tablet and a bunch of drawing books since he said he didn't need them and needed more dope. For a 100 bucks I got his tablet (idk much about drawing tablets I just know that it's a wacom and supposedly wacoms are good). With all this I though I might at least try to make something good out of it, if I can't I'll just resell it no biggie. I'm just wondering if the books are good or if I should just follow some online guide or something.

-Perspective Made Easy By Ernest R. Norling
-Constructive Anatomy By Goerge R. Bridgman
-Keys to Drawing By Bert Dodson
Drawing Dynamic Hands and Drawing The Human Head by Burne Hogarth
Fun With A Pencil By Andrew Loomie ( I've heard a lot of good about this one)
Figure Drawing for all it's worth By Andrew Loomie.

Thanks mates.

[Anonymous No.3625892]

>>3625699
Day 4.
I am here to disappoint you again anon.
Learning how to blend colors with the blending tool
https://i.imgur.com/SUT1tcu.png
Source

[Anonymous No.3625894]

Is it a bad idea to use blending stumps since I have trouble doing gradients or is that a crutch?

[Anonymous No.3625902]

>>3625864
looks like quality books anon, I haven't read them but I've seen it all over /ic/

[Anonymous No.3625911]

How does one fight through crippling depression to get their daily practice in?

[Anonymous No.3625912]

>>3625902
>Haven't read them

Typical /ic/

[Anonymous No.3625917]

all of my art is this flat, wishy washy looking bullshit. I'm about to give up hope on ever progressing, I have no idea how people figure out where to put detail and dimensions into art.

not to mention all the anatomy fuckups I'm probably missing.

[Anonymous No.3625925]

>>3625911
channel that depression into your art, or wait until you're in a better mood. if you have actual depression, you need to get it treated

[Anonymous No.3625929]

>>3625911
see a psychiatrist dumbass

[Anonymous No.3625932]

>>3623960
I decided to grind heads today
I made the the nose part of the face a bit to long making everything look elongated

[Anonymous No.3625934]

>>3625932
it looks like his eyebrows are wearing a necktie...

[Anonymous No.3625936]

First post on this board, I haven’t taken an art lesson since I was 12 and right now all I can use are my ET fingers on an iPad lol

I’m not really sure what I’m doing, I’m sure I’m just drawing how I feel / whatever art I’m being subconsciously inspired by, but is there a general guide for any books on how to actually improve the technical side of art? I don’t want to keep using an iPad I’d actually like to use paint

[Anonymous No.3625938]

>>3625932
looks like slav from the front black from the side

[Anonymous No.3625945]

>>3624152
>>3624155
>>3624156
>>3624170
stop drawing anime

>>3624400
Yea, you need to learn anatomy. Looking a medical / muscle / skeleton pics help. You have to understand how muscles wrap around bone and other muscles, how bones are connected, and how fat fold around the body. Obviously you don't need to know the details but at least an idea of what shapes they make.
- thumbnail looks great, good values
- everything under the waist looks bad especially the legs
- knees?
- is that back fat or the ass?


>>3624668
looks really good! you definetly know how to draw what you see
- the yellow towel's folds are really off and it's too saturated
- the left arm on the yellow towel lady melts into the couch
- shadows and light are really off


>>3624976
desu don't use that as a ref, just don't

>>3625912
I should

>>3625917
try drawing from life? hopefully that will help you make your art less flat

[Anonymous No.3625963]

>>3625934
I should have erased the keystone

[Anonymous No.3625986]

>>3625585
Change nothing.

[Anonymous No.3625994]

>>3625945
thank you anon, i always forget how many useful boards we have here. i shouldve stopped by here a month ago before i posted it like 50 times
i basically just traced over >>3624672
i know the towel is all fucked up and i barely bothered to shade anything, ill see what i can do about fixing it up
i also made this one over the summer
i know the eyes are a bit wonky and the skin is all sorts of wrong
also the flowers look really stupid zoomed in
but im hopeful that im moving in the right direction
/blogpost.
sorry lol this post really got away from me

[Anonymous No.3625995]

>>3625994
at least i already admitted i was new to /ic/ so the spoiler fail isnt as embarrassing
anyway heres the original

[Anonymous No.3625996]

>>3625994
trancing won’t help you desu

[Anonymous No.3626003]

>>3625996
tracing*
whenever I type “desu” or “just” why does it show up as desu?

[Anonymous No.3626007]

>>3626003
good b8 desu

[Anonymous No.3626009]

>>3626003
dn t.bh f.amlam

[Anonymous No.3626011]

>>3626003
>whenever I type “desu” or “just” why does it show up as desu?

[Anonymous No.3626012]

>>3625753
>proud
No anon, never be proud of your work. Pride leads to stagnation.

[Anonymous No.3626016]

[Anonymous No.3626024]

>>3626003
i fear youve been hacked

[Anonymous No.3626036]

>>3626007
>>3626009
>>3626024
>>3626011
thanks

[Anonymous No.3626060]

Howd I do for a first attempt at the face. Im not too happy with it. But it kinda reminds me of handsome squidward

[Anonymous No.3626063]

>>3626060
looks like putin

[Anonymous No.3626065]

>>3625613
it would be better if you take source from real nude, learn the proportion and then adjust the breasts size to your liking. also I need to get gud at drawing woman face, shit was the hardest past.
any (You) or feedback are appreciated.

[Anonymous No.3626072]

>>3626065
I'm Massive scum and I'm looking to draw RP reference characters, and I;'m mostly looking to draw fat chicks.

My feedback is the way your hips look is a bit off, like the chest seems dis proportioned. I had mine like that because she was supposed to be fat. but you trimmed some areas, and not others.
I really like your shading and coloring, I'm sure if you spent more time on it the coloring would be better. I think your points to work on are the nose and lips if you want to make better female faces. Though it's still more realistic then my most recent face. Also the face looked less many in your sketch
>>3625892
I fucked up and switched pen sizes when doing the face, I should have started with a smaller inking pen.

[Anonymous No.3626085]

>>3626063
On second look. It kinda does. Maybe ill aim for that next time.

[Anonymous No.3626099]

>>3626085
better yet, find a picture of putin, put down your construction and then draw what you see.
keep it up tho anon

[Anonymous No.3626127]

>>3625932
I made some attempts at extreme angles

[Anonymous No.3626131]

>>3626127
jesus christ that second head
but i believe in you anon
fair attempts on the other angles

[Anonymous No.3626187]

>>3626012
This is incorrect, pride is still way better than insecurity. It all depends on how proud and in what way aso.

[Anonymous No.3626193]

Forgot to upload my shroompeople, do you guys know whether there is any trick to using a pen or is it supposed to be way way harder than pencil? I'm still not a fan of shading with lines(as you can tell..), but kinda warming up to that part.

>>3625996
Tracing can be good for isolated exercises, like if you just want to practice some kind of rendering or good lines. (You could just use some lineart off of google for the former though)
I don't really trace because it's boring as fuck and I wanna kill myself when doing it, but not because it can't be helpful to improve in some respects.

[Anonymous No.3626235]

I started to draw some Loomis heads recently. I think I somewhat "understand" how the construction works on smaller spheres but once they get bigger, it all falls apart with terribly looking jaws.
Not sure why since I'm still trying to apply the same rules. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[Anonymous No.3626287]

Quick poses... I'm using up a bad mixture of ink.

[Anonymous No.3626297]

Just some gestures. Halloween is getting into my art already!

[Anonymous No.3626299]

Odd expressions

[Anonymous No.3626301]

>>3626235
I find that when people have trouble with the jaw, it's because they dont quite understand its structure and how skin connects from the chin to the neck. Use one of those skull posing websites/apps in the sticky and just draw a bunch of angles looking up from below so you can understand that crucial plane underneath the jaw.

[Anonymous No.3626308]

[Anonymous No.3626310]

>>3625917
Have you tried learning about perspective and form?

[Anonymous No.3626312]

>>3626287
the woman on the right in the left panel is falling over

[Anonymous No.3626313]

>>3626312
She wasn't supposed to be in the comp, since it's two women from different vantage points but I like the idea of a painting with two women and two dogs. This wouldn't function as a study of course.

[Anonymous No.3626322]

>>3626313
i dont think it matters, if you removed everything around her she would still look unbalanced.

[Anonymous No.3626324]

Not confident in drawing portraits, so trying to improve in that area.
Thoughts? I think eyes are too big, what else?

[Anonymous No.3626328]

>>3626324
the ears are definitely mis-aligned, but dude this looks great.

[Anonymous No.3626329]

>>3626322
Head's too big but that's characterological, and it's a trope that I love too much to control at times. Her upper body should recede since the camera is lower.

[Anonymous No.3626330]

>>3626328
sorry, to elaborate im pretty sure the ear on our right is far too low

[Anonymous No.3626333]

>>3626330

Thank you. Yes, I see it now, will fix.

[Anonymous No.3626334]

>>3626329
whatever you say man, im not talking about head size or upper body, im talking about overall gesture and pose

[Anonymous No.3626338]

>>3626333

Yep, looks better now.

[Anonymous No.3626365]

>>3626324
jesus christ anon. tell me how to draw like that.

[Anonymous No.3626376]

How do I get these proportions right?
The temple looks way too big for me

[Anonymous No.3626434]

How do I get my hand to draw lines where I want them?

[Anonymous No.3626435]

>>3625435
Your grind looks like it's beginning to pay off, keep going.

[Anonymous No.3626436]

>>3626434
keep trying to draw lines where you want them until eventually you can

[Anonymous No.3626442]

>>3626365
Thank you.

I think I'll mostly repeat what's said here most of the time, but whatever.

Read books (Loomis, of course, but I've also found Hampton very helpful), check out some video courses (Han, Hampton).

Grind, but do it smartly. Don't spend too much time on minor details, devote more time to studying perspective and figuring out what shapes objects are made of and how to draw these objects correctly.

When drawing from reference, don't copy the image as-is. Try to find some underlying shapes first, then figure out proportions and only then start drawing things as you see them.

As you draw, don't do it mindlessly. Try to remember the shapes, try to understand how light works. Don't think of your drawing in 2d, always keep 3d picture in mind. That's one reason why drawing from real reference is useful - it's easier to visualize 3d picture (how far away things are from each other, at what angles they're positioned and so on).

Also, check out this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0ufz75UvHs

[Anonymous No.3626445]

>>3626434
With practice.

[Anonymous No.3626449]

>>3626376
Is the side plane supposed to be tilting down?

[Anonymous No.3626597]

Does she look retarded?

[Anonymous No.3626601]

>>3626597
yeah a bit, but also it's pretty good. you're getting there.

[Anonymous No.3626622]

>>3626601

Agreed. If only her right eye was more to the right...

[Anonymous No.3626626]

>>3626597
It looks to me like you connected the ribcage with the abdominal muscles, I'd try to seperate that more next time.

[Anonymous No.3626628]

>>3626449
If you are the guy who drew that, no.

[Anonymous No.3626654]

I just made this a couple of days back. Would love some critique!

[Anonymous No.3626658]

>>3626626
Can you show me somehow what you talking? Im kinda bad with anatomy terms.

[Anonymous No.3626661]

>>3626308
Boob's are too closed together. One is smaller than the other. The toe looks messed up. The mouth conveys mixed messages on what she's feeling. Otherwise, it's pretty good.

[Anonymous No.3626692]

How do you guys grind? Do you do one exercise through a whole session? How much do you grind each day? Is it all in one sitting? Did you stop grinding at a point, when?

[Anonymous No.3626698]

Im looking to star learning digital art. But first I need to touch up my fundamentals. Can i get some advice?

[Anonymous No.3626704]

been trying to learn how to draw bodies. loomis bodys seem so creepy stick like to me.

[Anonymous No.3626725]

>>3625945
I'm
>>3624400
and my biggest problem is definitely the areas where parts of the body connect to each other, such as knees, as you mentioned, elbows, neck, and shoulders especially when they're in an awkward position. I didn't include the knees because I don't know how to draw them without straight copying the ref or just making the leg look flat, and i've been trying to build figures with 3d volumes.
I've heard you can do the knee as a cubical shape but not quite sure how to represent it from a front facing angle. Also it is back fat (see pic) but I definitely over exaggerated it going over it again. No secret it's a bit fucked especially the right arm and leg from the viewers perspective, but any advice helps really, so thanks!

[Anonymous No.3626795]

>>3625786
Thank you for the critique, I'll try to work on that!

[Anonymous No.3626803]

>>3625996
>trancing won’t help you desu
unfortunately thats kinda my whole shtick...
im okay with it though desu, i like that its kind of uniquely stylized (at least unique to me as a newfag mspainter) like i put my own spin on it
i just need to get better at shading and light sources, but like WAYYYY better

this is my only non-/bb/ inspired painting ive done so far

[Anonymous No.3626808]

>>3626692
ANSWER ME

[Anonymous No.3626812]

>>3626338
wow the hair looks amazing
its currently my biggest hurdle in my mspaint endeavors (my actual physical hands cant draw for shit so im glad this great equalizer exists)

>>3626803
heres the original i traced over
im aware the teeth are all jacked up but i kind of like how they ended up

[Anonymous No.3626846]

>>3624491
>>3624494
>>3624495
stop chicken scratching, draw cleaner lines, just let your hand flow freely if a line doesn't go as you like it, not the end of the world just put less pressure and do again.
aside from that the usual: need to learn anatomry,perspective,loomis yadayada
seriously pick up any figure drawing book and read it like its your bible for the next week and it's like you will be enlightened and you will realize how much of a pleb you are and your stuff will slightly improve

[Anonymous No.3626868]

>>3626812

Thanks.

Maybe check out Krita? It's free, easy to master and can emulate different drawing materials pretty well.

[Anonymous No.3626870]

>>3626808

Never stop grinding. Grind smart, try to learn and understand things you're drawing, not just draw them mindlessly for hours.

I like to do different exercises so I'm more interested. But sometimes I can draw some exercise for hours if it's interesting enough.

The amount of hours depends on how much free time I have. If you have a lot of free time, the more you grind, the better. But don't forget to rest and draw for fun.

[Anonymous No.3626980]

I really want to fix this, any suggestions? I have asked all over the place several times, people just say that it's all wrong but not tell me how to fix it.

[Anonymous No.3626991]

>>3626980
Just delete the file, empty recycle bin, wipe your storage, write over the storage with random bits 100 times and rub an industrial magnet if it is an HDD, or douse with gasoline and set on fire if SSD.

[Anonymous No.3626994]

>>3626980
kek, honestly just ask in the porn thread and then MAYBE someone will help you there. Any technical errors are overshadowed by the cringey subject matter.

[Anonymous No.3626995]

[Anonymous No.3626998]

>>3626980
>people just say that it's all wrong but not tell me how to fix it.
This is not true because I remember you posting this 2 months ago and a bunch of people told you how to fix it then but you've obviously gone ahead and ignored them.

[Anonymous No.3627008]

>>3626998

Not really, they told me contradictory and unhelpful stuff; that it was basically unfixable since the pose was imposible and the subject didn't matched with the background. They didn't told me how it should look like por what could I do.

[Anonymous No.3627012]

>>3627008
>people just say that it's all wrong but not tell me how to fix it

>that it was basically unfixable since the pose was imposible and the subject didn't matched with the background

So they literally told you how to fix it then.
Honestly mate your biggest problem is that you're attempting to draw things that you don't know how to draw. Use references.

[Anonymous No.3627021]

>>3627012

I have some comments saved of that thread actually. Show me a photo of how it should look like then.

[Anonymous No.3627025]

>>3627008

It's not that you need to be told what to fix, it's that you're neglecting your fundamentals. Learn how to learn. Don't be so emotionally attached to one drawing.

[h No.3627026]

>>3626995
wow i love this

[Anonymous No.3627031]

>>3626193
Love the shading style, got a blog?

[Anonymous No.3627034]

>>3627021
Second post has a point though. The character and the picture as a whole look completely flat even though you're clearly attempting to make a 3D space, as if your character was a paper cutout taped onto a background.

[Anonymous No.3627041]

>>3627025

Is not just one drawing, Its all of them, I have not finished a drawing in years because everyone says I am wrong but I am never told whats right, how am I going to know what's wrong and whats right if I dont even know what's right, I never go beyond pencil and paper as I al always told to make it all over again and again.

[Anonymous No.3627043]

>>3627041

What have you tried studying?

[Anonymous No.3627046]

>>3627043

Tutorials from Deviantart and Youtube? I mainly search "how to draw X" and try to make what they say.

[Anonymous No.3627050]

>>3627046

Do you know the basics of gesture and construction though? Would you be able to draw a simplified figure just using cubes and cylinders?

[Anonymous No.3627053]

>>3627050

Maybe? but that is not helpful at all, how can I know how something I am not seeing looks like?

[Anonymous No.3627057]

>>3624304

also interested in this.

i have too much need to be perfect it's stopping me from even starting :(

[Anonymous No.3627062]

>>3624500
Is their any site with nude models that wont make me vomit?

[Anonymous No.3627066]

I started a new series I will call "dogs and women". I look at pictures of dogs and try to draw women doing the same pose. I think it's very good practice! The dog I looked at for this girl wasn't the one next to her.
By the way, how fucked am I

[Anonymous No.3627069]

>>3627034

He didn't say that, he said I stiched up 2 diferent references but I didn't use any except from the cartoon itself.

[Anonymous No.3627070]

>>3627066
why are the fingers so long

[Anonymous No.3627073]

>>3627057
I feel you too much noise and glorifyed ego When it comes to study material, lucky we have the internet. I have started my own research, I have the first page written on the spine I’ll upload it in the next post if anyone’s interested to see how I have it structured and written so far. It’s mainly teachers from YouTube free videos wikapidia and medical sources. It can be work to write a report and making it comprehensive but I think it will become rewarding. I’m the guy who drew that horrible Chappell portrait study thise weird demon dudes, cat and an ocean of wonky figures. That I intend to correct at the end of my study.

[Anonymous No.3627076]

>>3627070
I don't know bro, I tried to force some perspective

[Anonymous No.3627078]

>>3627073
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DjTYyUc6i9qiSJtEgba4S0NHl5IOs9ZJVMqhg87PWtI/edit?usp=sharing

[Anonymous No.3627081]

>>3626725
>>3624400
You've done very well just keep practicing and you'll be great, you already are very wise about lighting

[Anonymous No.3627085]

Man I love dynamic sketching. Always fun drawing forms. Even if I'm not that great at it yet.

[Anonymous No.3627086]

>>3627069
>he didn't say that, he said I stiched up 2 diferent references but I didn't use any except from the cartoon itself

There's your problem then. You're not using references when you should be. You're attempting to draw something when you don't really understand its form.

Even if you're trying to do a cartoon, the basis of any stylistic attempt is a good knowledge of anatomy + form. This is why even children's animation students spend years studying fundamentals. Have you ever done a study before?

[Anonymous No.3627090]

>>3627078
https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vQ87sfpcHx9NHci5BeKQ01HBcPrc41YViY0UnaPOxzQXEZLXneKQ8fdCf0FllUipbMdZncXDAqN9Cua/pub

[Anonymous No.3627094]

>>3626868
much appreciated, sounds like its right up my alley.

holy shit i just found this in my paint folder, legitimately forgot i even made this one
WEW thats pretty bad, fuck it *post*

[Anonymous No.3627095]

I guess I should spend good money on watercolour pencils, eh? Or am I just a pleb? I expected this to look nicer,but the pencil marks seem to persist.

[Anonymous No.3627105]

>>3627086

I don't know what that is, I went to an art school in Mexico, and had drawing classes but I was studying graphic design, I never heard of that therm. we just usually copied a model.

Show me a photo, because according to the last time I posted it, that pose should not even be posible irl.

[Anonymous No.3627108]

How's my head construction? Exaggerating the features a bit to get the planes.

[Anonymous No.3627111]

>>3624500
>https://line-of-action.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing
thanks a lot for this

[Anonymous No.3627119]

>>3627066
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEN5-_93gQg

[Anonymous No.3627121]

>>3627105

Read the sticky my dude.

[Anonymous No.3627122]

>>3627095
depends what youre trying to achieve.
if you want watercolor look use watercolors.
watercolor pencils are for details.
like pastel pencils should be used on pastel base, not as an alternative to pastels.

[Anonymous No.3627123]

>>3627105
>show me a photo, because according to the last time I posted it, that pose should not even be posible irl.

Because it's not. If you are viewing the image from perspective of the head being in line with your eye level, which you drawn it as, you would not be able to see that much of her lower ass. Not unless her spine was broken in the middle.

[Anonymous No.3627147]

>>3627105
>went to art school and still can't draw

[Anonymous No.3627150]

>>3627085
Oh fuck i never even thought of making a cast shadow when doing these, Im gonna try that now

[Anonymous No.3627152]

>>3627150
cool, post when youre done? I like to see other people doing this.

[Anonymous No.3627154]

>>3627119
Oh man that is really, really funny

[Anonymous No.3627155]

>>3627152
Sure, i'll do them as a warm up tomorrow and post em sometime then or the day after

[Anonymous No.3627156]

>>3626099
Perspectice draw the perspective made easy book. Howd I do? I didnt use a ruler for every line but I think I should of.

[Anonymous No.3627167]

Day three of drawing a portrait every day.
Today I discovered that shading is very hard, messy hair is hard to draw, some people have ovular heads and that even once you get proportions and proper placement of features they're still hard to draw.
I'll get there, anons. I'll post my next progress report when I become further discouraged.

[Anonymous No.3627200]

>>3625753
Also, first time drawing hands.

[Anonymous No.3627203]

>>3627200
Not bad desu.

[Anonymous No.3627219]

>>3627156
I dont think youre ready for perspective made easy.
Try something more beginner friendly like Keys to Drawing and Drawing with the Right Side of the brain. after reading those two give Perspective made easy another go.

[Anonymous No.3627221]

I started two months ago, I'm probably bitting more than I can swallow. I'm trying to make an alternate version of a manga, turning the secondary characters into possible love interests. At the moment I am too dependent on the original source, but I am not tracing so I hope to improve in the future. The reading from left to right feels strange, probably going to start again in manga format with more flexible panels.

[Anonymous No.3627222]

>>3627123

Then how could I fix it?

[Anonymous No.3627274]

Why is Loomi so wholesome to read?

[Anonymous No.3627276]

>>3627221
>started drawing two months ago
Holy fuck youre good

[Anonymous No.3627278]

>>3627221
Blog? How did you get so good?

[Anonymous No.3627281]

Is Conceptart.org a helpful site to go to for critique?
I just hope if I join it hasn't gone down over the years or something.

[Anonymous No.3627315]

>>3627278
I'm currently studying architecture, so I'm covered on the perspective side (although I never draw by hand and only work in 3D), but totally oblivious of the human form. I skipped the classics and went straight to anime books.

I’m currently using:
(Nakamura Seiich) It's Fun Drawing People! Face & Head
Japanese Hair Tutorial Book [头发的画法+头发基本画法动态画法魅力表现+日漫教程]
Principal Character Poses - Basics of Contrapposto (Chinese)

I don’t have a blog yet, first I need to be able to draw a page a day with decent quality.

[Anonymous No.3627319]

I feel I don't really "get" gesture drawing. Sometimes it turns out all right but a lot of the time I have a hard time not just drawing a sketchy outline. It was funny when the I-No cosplayer showed up though.

[Anonymous No.3627321]

>>3627319
Well you're supposed to be drawing the movement and weight of the figure to help you better comprehend form. None of these are really conveying that.

[Anonymous No.3627325]

>>3627315
Do you have a link to the hair book? I'm going through Hitokaku and it's giving me a lot of trouble.

[Anonymous No.3627336]

>>3627321

Well, I guess that's what I don't "get," right? I don't really have an idea of when I'm drawing the "movement" and when I'm not.

[Anonymous No.3627341]

>>3627336

http://figuredrawingdotinfo.blogspot.com/2016/08/how-to-and-gesture-drawing.html

Try approaching gesture systematically until it comes naturally to you. Read Michael Hampton's book as well.

[Anonymous No.3627343]

Finished this yesterday.. it’s my first painting and my first time using gouache.

[Anonymous No.3627344]

My first painting and first time using gouache. Finished it the other day.

[Anonymous No.3627347]

My first painting and first time using gouache. Finished this the other day.

[Anonymous No.3627348]

>>3627347
Sorry it’s sideways.. stupid iPhone

[Anonymous No.3627350]

day "3"
kek why do I even bother

[Anonymous No.3627360]

>>3625986
I tried drawing my all time favourite waifu first time
Sorry for the shitty pic

[Anonymous No.3627373]

Quick study

[Anonymous No.3627376]

>>3627360
I think it's great. Try the same style in panels and you're gold.

[Anonymous No.3627384]

>Day 3
I really need to learn facial structure before painting...

[Anonymous No.3627391]

reference for >>3627384

[Anonymous No.3627392]

[Anonymous No.3627397]

>>3627221
Who are the stars of the spin-off?

[Anonymous No.3627406]

Guys I feel stupid, I just started reading Fun With A Pencil and I can't for the fuck of me draw a Blook, It's supposed to be easy /beg/ yet it always look like pure crape, is it time to give up and go back to uni?

[Anonymous No.3627413]

>>3626060
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T7cDY7YDsg

Watch that, it's free gold.

[Anonymous No.3627415]

I've spent a good hour trying to figure out why am I having so much problems getting the face done.
I THINK I have the nose and mouth right but the eyes are ruining everything and I have no idea by now. It was a long time since a simple drawing gave me so much trouble.

[Anonymous No.3627417]

>>3627406
Being crape is the first step towards being goode.

[Anonymous No.3627418]

>>3627417
BUT LOOMIS TOLD ME IT WAS EASY TO DRAW BLOOK

[Anonymous No.3627419]

>>3627418
Loomis said a lot of things.

[Anonymous No.3627421]

>>3624218
Keep copying Yev's work. It wil get good when Yev gets good.

[Anonymous No.3627429]

>>3627419
Would Loomis lie to me?

[Anonymous No.3627432]

>>3627429
>>3627429
No. You've got to be constant. Can't expect to get good in a day.
A good artist literally fills entire notebooks with drawings, practices and studies.

[Anonymous No.3627436]

>>3627432
drawing is hard and it sucks and its stupid

[Anonymous No.3627439]

>>3627436
it sucks my cock

[Anonymous No.3627457]

>>3627350
Your values are wack.

[Anonymous No.3627459]

>>3627415
Why does your guide lines curve downwards?

[Anonymous No.3627464]

>>3627457
yeah I can't wrap my brain around things not just being white
things have a black outline and are white on the inside tahts the only way I know how to draw

[Anonymous No.3627467]

>>3627464
Gray scale the reference and try again

[Anonymous No.3627468]

>>3627467
thats a good idea thanks

[Nosebro No.3627472]

>>3627415
theres no mistakes. it just sucks because everything is wrong

[Anonymous No.3627473]

>>3627472
I'll study this, thanks anon.

[Anonymous No.3627477]

tried to go for the villain in robocop but ended up with chairman mao

[Anonymous No.3627486]

>>3627467
whateverrrrrr
thanks for the tip though

[Anonymous No.3627488]

>>3627486
That's way better than the first one, nice.

[Anonymous No.3627490]

>>3627221
>started 2 months ago
>already better than me after 4 years
Man, I should really get to killing myself sooner rather than later.

[Anonymous No.3627491]

I tried and failed at constructing hands

[Anonymous No.3627535]

>>3627464
Turn the reference b&w and you'll see.

[Anonymous No.3627540]

>start taking art seriously so studying fundies
>practicing my realism
>mfw it took me hours to draw these garbage
>i almost broke down because of the drawing at the left
>completely fucked up the values and face
>ngmi
>what do anons

[Anonymous No.3627550]

>>3627540
it looks good bro, middle and right especially. I get what you mean about the face and the like, but it's improvement.
improvement is always a good thing, just take it a day at a time and never give up and you'll make it. believe in me who believes in you.

[Anonymous No.3627558]

Junji Itou studies. So pumped for Halloween right now.

[Anonymous No.3627565]

>>3627540
this is good anon, how long you been drawing?

[Anonymous No.3627593]

>>3627550
>>3627565
Btw anons i made this with a reference so dont compliment me thinking i made these from my imagination. All the more reason im ngmi when its right there in front of me and i cant even draw it properly. :(

>How long you been drawin?
I started drawing and learning anatomy about a year ago but as soon as I got the grasp on the simplified forms of the body I quickly jumped to sylizing it and mostly just drawing girls which was a mistake. About a week ago, I realized that my fundies are actually hot garbage so I started reading books that teach me about it. At the same time reviewing my male anatomy because I kinda got rusty at it

[Anonymous No.3627595]

>>3627540
>>mfw it took me hours to draw these garbage
>>i almost broke down because of the drawing at the left

keep going anon, every time you reach a brick wall just keep going. that's the only way to improve.

[Anonymous No.3627596]

>>3627593
dude you dont wanna see what my stuff from reference looks like, stop being a little bitch, your stuff is better than most here and you know it. i personally hate it when people come in here saying "omg this is so bad please critique :(("

[Anonymous No.3627598]

>>3627593
>with reference
I figured as much bro. doesn't mean it isn't not bad. just cause it's there in front of you, isn't necessarily easy.
as long as you understand what went wrong, what went right, and how to improve you will make it given enough time and practice. it's clear you're putting thought into your study, which is why it's good.
again, believe in me who believes in you.

[Anonymous No.3627609]

>>3627095
>>3627122
this is what i expected

[Anonymous No.3627615]

>>3627609
I had a nightmare last night where I was being chased by a horse, which was clawing and gnawing through a crawl space... It was like Jurassic Park but with horses...

[Anonymous No.3627617]

>>3627615

[Anonymous No.3627621]

>>3623960
hi pls tell me what is wrong with this thing

[Anonymous No.3627624]

>>3627617
Very different from this... The horse was fast and spent most of its time on its side... It had claws instead of hooves, and it seemed more like an animatronic gone wild.

[Anonymous No.3627626]

>>3627621
legs are tiny and the perspective on them is odd. the choice of cutting off at the top and bottom tells me you can't draw hands, faces and feet at all. your rendering is cool.

[Anonymous No.3627629]

>>3627373
Need feedback

[Anonymous No.3627630]

As a beginner should I just be drawing as much as possible as fast as possible without agonizing over the quality and just throw away all my drawings and move onto the next one?

[Anonymous No.3627633]

>>3627630
warm-ups: gesture drawing, boxes, lines, curves, planes, ellipses (15 - 30 min, don't do all of these)

then you can either carry on learning one of the above, like perspective/boxes or gesture/figure drawing, then try to spend a couple hours on something you'll finish and render, putting your new knowledge to use.

[Anonymous No.3627635]

This is an old cheese crate with some handles that my grandfather put on. I thought it would make a nice study but added more of the surroundings

[Anonymous No.3627636]

>>3623960

[Anonymous No.3627640]

>>3627636
This is only good because of the memes in it, otherwise stop with this college girl crap.

[Anonymous No.3627652]

>>3627640
Ok

[Anonymous No.3627664]

>>3627436
And it gets everywhere.

[Anonymous No.3627703]

>>3627325
No, but I can share it. Is gonna take a while (3rd world internet) so check this later.
>>3627397
It focus on friend A and B, they are currently nameless in the original “Please don't bully me, Nagatoro”

[Anonymous No.3627706]

>>3627281
Its good just dua from what i hear

[Anonymous No.3627711]

>>3627703
I still can't fathom that this is supposedly 2 months into drawing. Fuck my life why do I even try.

[Anonymous No.3627712]

>>3627711
>why do I even try.
Have you really though?

[Anonymous No.3627714]

>>3627373
Need feedback

[Anonymous No.3627715]

>>3627712
Yeah yeah we could always do more, no shit. Alltogether over the years I definitely did more than this guy in 2 months, even if he drew all day every day.

[Anonymous No.3627722]

>>3627715
So how much would you get done in an average week?

[Anonymous No.3627726]

>>3627491
Here's some more
please critic

[Anonymous No.3627729]

>>3627722
Fluctuates too much to say desu, maybe 5 hours? I'm a hobbyist though and in any case
I calculated that with just one hour of drawing per week he would have needed a 50 hour work week of pure drawing in those 2 months for equal time, and then you gotta add reading books and similar things on top of that.

[Anonymous No.3627733]

>>3627729
5 hours in a week? Jesus. No wonder you're struggling.

[Anonymous No.3627739]

>>3627635
your ellipses perspectives are fucked up

[Anonymous No.3627742]

>>3627491
for today. try again tomorrow and learn from your mistakes

[Anonymous No.3627743]

>>3626301
Thanks a million anon. Can't believe I missed that. The drawings aren't great of course but I'm definitely understanding it more. Too bad the apps can't seem to tilt the skulls though.
Wish I had more time to draw. At most, I can barely fit two hours in.

[Anonymous No.3627745]

>>3627321
is that really necessary when a few well placed lines could represent gesture just the same.
and I assume youre meant to draw over the gesture guide? cos in the end youre learning for the final drawing. so why make all that mess when you cant use it

[Anonymous No.3627748]

>>3627745
gesture drawing isnt just to be drawn over, it's a very important exercise in capturing the essence of an object or figure, that specific example isnt very good imo, hampton has a good method. you want to, in a s few lines as possible, convey the pose, gesture, and perspective of the forms, while trying to get proportions correct. these are usually quick too.

[Anonymous No.3627771]

>>3627325
Here you go
https://mega.nz/#F!nlgghQBR!wubI4iyU5keFQLyhzuDcog

[Anonymous No.3627787]

>watching youtube lesson on how to draw gesture cause I cant do it for shit
>about 5 minutes in my sister barges in
>she tells me to drop whatever Im doing she has to tell me something important
>ok
>spends the next hour trying to redpill me on the ZOG and how Trudeau is secretly their plant to destroy Canada

Going to College with my sister was a mistake. I also regret introducing her to 4chan.

[Anonymous No.3627812]

>>3627787
she sounds based is she hot?

[Anonymous No.3627817]

>>3627787
Sounds like a classy lady. Draw some ZOG with her and learn noses.

[Anonymous No.3627818]

>>3627787
Get back at her by drawing Issam Zahreddine's last stand and spend an hour informing her of the significance of the Siege of Deir Ez-zor using your picture as a visual metaphor

[Anonymous No.3627819]

I doodle at work when no one is looking. Like during really boring lab meetings, I have a drawer full of post it note drawings if anyone would like to see more, I wish I had the motivation to take drawing more seriously

[Anonymous No.3627821]

Practices in anatomy #1
top image is reference, middle image is my attempt to use construction lines from the reference, bottom image is my attempt to use construction lines to draw something

[Anonymous No.3627831]

I doodle at work when no one is looking, I have plenty of post it notes filled with drawings if anyone has interest. Wish I took drawing more seriously

[Anonymous No.3627832]

>>3627831
I’ll dump some more

[Anonymous No.3627833]

>>3627831
looks like you have a potential future as a political cartoonist

[Anonymous No.3627834]

>>3627831
>>3627832

[Anonymous No.3627836]

>>3627832
dang, that one's cool. the inside of the skull needs some shading though.

[Anonymous No.3627838]

>>3627833
Thanks dude, It’s good to hear there’s potential. Here’s one I made a few weeks ago, wanted to put “Make Atlantis Great Again” as a tagline but felt like I didn’t get the hair right

[Anonymous No.3627839]

>>3627838
>Make Atlantis Great Again
Should have been Dartz's tagline

[Anonymous No.3627845]

>>3627821
that reference looks TERRIBLE. That's not anatomy, and you shouldn't be doing anatomy anyway. Go read michael hampton's figure drawing book.

[Anonymous No.3627849]

The disposable assassin

[Anonymous No.3627852]

>>3627123

That's nowhere near the same pose at all, the legs are wide open and the viewing angle is much higer.

[Anonymous No.3627855]

>>3627845
>read michael hampton's figure drawing book.
will do, but why do I not need to be doing anatomy? Isn't that important? And why is the reference not anatomy?

[Anonymous No.3627867]

>>3627855
Anatomy is to do with the muscles and how they attach to the bones, along with their proportions. If you can't even draw a figure, there is no need to know how muscles attach to the bones. The references you posted not only look terrible, very tall and too skinn, but they show no anatomy.

[Anonymous No.3628106]

>>3627771
Thanks so much Anon.

[Anonymous No.3628191]

>getting defensive when poeple try to help you

please dont do that

[Anonymous No.3628306]

Revive?

[Anonymous No.3628308]

Drew a cat. It's a bit dirty, because I've used a bad eraser, but it still looks kinda okay

[Anonymous No.3628335]

NEW THREAD

>>3628333
>>3628333
>>3628333
>>3628333
>>3628333
>>3628333

[Anonymous No.3628416]

>>3626434
before you start on a drawing do 1-2 minute practices (so you don't bore yourself grinding) of drawing straight lines, angles and curves, start large and then get smaller over time and practice keeping the lines clean and parallel

[Anonymous No.3629227]

>>3627855
You gotta walk before you can run.

[Anonymous No.3629660]

>>3627726
palm is better simplified as a pentagonal box than a cuboid, with the point that is furthest from the wrist being where the middle finger starts