ic avant garde: illastrat brian and me

[Anonymous No.3623239]

hey guys
check out my latest art

[Anonymous No.3623245]

another painting i did :)

[Anonymous No.3623246]

No thanks. [ - ]

[Anonymous No.3623252]

>>3623246
uh huh
post your work

[Anonymous No.3623423]

What do you think? :D

[Anonymous No.3623426]

>>3623252
Did use the asaro head planes to paint this one?

[Anonymous No.3623432]

>>3623423
I really like this one! The rest is garbage

[Anonymous No.3623440]

>>3623426
No a real model

>>3623432
There will be more that you like if you open your eyes and observe more carefully
Art is all about appreciation of beauty

[Anonymous No.3623446]

>>3623440
I saw your devianart, what category does your artwork fall into?

[Anonymous No.3623451]

>>3623440
lovely clown

[Anonymous No.3623457]

I'm serious, what does this artwork category fall into? Fr fr I'll admit >>3623451 is funny as hell

[Anonymous No.3623463]

>>3623446
Experimental figurative abstraction

[Anonymous No.3623467]

>>3623463
Nice! Though why not use your skill to paint realistic figures so you can make $$$ off your art? You have the visual library, patience and following.

[Anonymous No.3623472]

>>3623467
You mean be like sakimichan? That's not fine art. It's kitsch. Not real art.

I am interested in making art that is experimental that explores abstraction

I am trying to sell my art through gallery system

[Anonymous No.3623479]

>>3623472
I see what you meam but is it working and are you making enough to support yourself? I know sakimichan ain't fine art but it's what's on the market, I bet you'll make more money catering to that audience than to finearts enthusiasts.

[Anonymous No.3623486]

>>3623479
I see what you mean. I will try and see what I can make

[Anonymous No.3623508]

>>3623239
bad art thread?
bad art thread.

[Anonymous No.3623536]

>>3623508
gtfo realismfag this isn't bad art, its experimental figurative abstraction

[Anonymous No.3623556]

>>3623536
Thank youuu for understanding

[Anonymous No.3623577]

>>3623536
>>3623556
No, it's just REALLY bad art.

[Anonymous No.3623612]

>>3623577
Maybe you are REALLY bad person with REALLY bad taste

[Anonymous No.3623614]

>>3623612
No he was right, it is bad art.

[Anonymous No.3623616]

>>3623245
Laughably bad....is this bait?

[Anonymous No.3623624]

>>3623614
>>3623616
Uhh stop talking to yourself
It's embarrassing xD

[Anonymous No.3623628]

>>3623440
>Art is all about appreciation of beauty
You have to be able to execute an interesting style of some sort in order to show that appreciation. Unless you're in 6th grade you failed.
Art is about far more than that anyway. Don't shove your childish definitions and bad art in my face and expect me to be wowed. The masters of pointillism are all laughing at you.

[Anonymous No.3623635]

>>3623628
You are just jealous and ignorant at the same time. Saying my art is bad doesn't make it bad. You need to open your mind and be at peace with yourself. If you were open minded and happy you would know my art is good.

I am not trying to do pointillism. That's outdated and too literal for me. Using big dots enable me to experimentally use colors and form

[Anonymous No.3623654]

>>3623635
>Saying my art is bad doesn't make it bad
It IS bad TO ME.
Maybe others will LOVE it and for your sake I hope so. Whatever. If they like faces with zero emotion in them and boring simplistic blobs of paint, great. Go to Instagram and type in figure painters or portrait artists and you'll find 50 thousand more talented people than you. But hey dream on.

[Anonymous No.3623737]

>>3623654
>>3623246
>>3623508
>>3623577
>>3623614
>>3623628

Not OP here but , if you just came here to spit out hateful comments and put downs, why don't you move along to a mecha/animu/realism thread and waste your time there instead. You clearly aren't fond of abstraction art so why don't you take the stick out of your ass, shit inside your own mouth because of how bad your own art is amd let this fine artist post his own work. If you don't have anything helpful to say, like a valid critique then gtfo here you weeb penur headed faggot.

[Anonymous No.3623856]

>>3623737
Thank you so much for saying what needed to be said

I really appreciate it

[Anonymous No.3623881]

>>3623856
>beauty and the beast
more like trash and the smear this is awful

[Anonymous No.3623882]

>>3623856
yeah this ones really bad chun

[Anonymous No.3623884]

>>3623856
actual garbage

[Anonymous No.3623941]

idk seems gay

[Anonymous No.3623981]

"abstract" art can be great! i know some very talented people who use abstraction, and a lot of the realistic techniques have basis in figurative ideas.

this art however needs a lot of work because the results look far from intentional. practice values moar

[Anonymous No.3624005]

>>3623856
You're welcome OP, you keep doing what you always do in /ic/ after all it's an Artwork/Critique board.

>>3623941
>>3623881
>>3623882
>>3623884
^^^ These faggots are the main reason why /ic/ has a bad rep when it comes to expecting honest helpful feedback from an artwork/sketch. Why don't you trolls clog up the threads in /r/ instead of spamming your try hard irrelevant memes that no one gives af about and dissing another artist's work. BET you motherfaggots would get all depressed if someone were to comment on your work, the same shit you post on here smhh get a life.

[Anonymous No.3624063]

>>3623440
waste of paint really

>>3623472
obscenely ugly and symbol drawing tier

[Anonymous No.3624260]

>>3624063
You consider that kitsch art good? Dont be ridiculous ahahaha

It's just pretty colors put together in plastic fashion.

[Anonymous No.3624366]

>>3623856
Loving the tiger brah

[Anonymous No.3624439]

>>3624366
Thank you haha
It represents me

[Anonymous No.3624456]

>>3624439
He wants the puss puss

[Anonymous No.3624470]

>>3624456
I also painted a gorilla

[Anonymous No.3624475]

>>3624470
I know that bulge

[Anonymous No.3624551]

>>3623737
A valid critique is not possible because the OP did not present any actual art. He or she presented visual vomit, which sucks and I hate.

[Anonymous No.3624587]

>>3624551
Show me an example of real art

[Anonymous No.3625201]

>>3624587

[Anonymous No.3625324]

>>3623856
>>3624366
>>3624439
>>3624470

>I am the tiger
>I also painted a gorilla

shoot yourself
on top of this chalky shit painting
this is too much

[Anonymous No.3625663]

>>3623239
i like the dots

[Anonymous No.3626520]

>>3624587
You'll never be this talented. Or cute.

[Anonymous No.3626605]

>>3626520
That's kitsch art

[Anonymous No.3626624]

I cannot tell if OP is serious or took this "art" from the internet to bait us.

[Anonymous No.3626649]

Fuck the weebs. I like these.

[Anonymous No.3626688]

>>3623239
i like very much

[Anonymous No.3626689]

>>3624470
Is that Illastrat?

[Anonymous No.3626690]

>>3626605
And OP's isn't??!

[Anonymous No.3626890]

>>3626605
OP's art doesn't even qualify as kitsch. At least she sells. OP's childish style reminds me of the crap I used to see the 9th graders cranking out daily at Cranbrook. Garbage.

[Anonymous No.3627329]

>>3626690
My art is experimental art in figurative abstraction. It is not kitsch

>>3626890
Your opinion is false. The gods of art and music do not agree with you. Sorry!

[Anonymous No.3627333]

>>3626688
This is nice paint.

[Anonymous No.3627403]

>>3623239
> Willingly associating yourself with illest rat

[Anonymous No.3627405]

>>3623239
>Intentionally grouping yourself with illest rat

[Anonymous No.3627427]

>>3623616
i mean other than the kid's face in the corner this could easily end up in most art shows in the west

[illastrat No.3627470]

>>3627405
dont group me as avant garde. idk what this shit is?????

[Anonymous No.3627513]

>>3627470
I really don't like your art, but I gotta agree, your paintings are at least art and got effort in them.

[Anonymous No.3627724]

>>3624005
Are you a moron? OP is trolling hard.

[Anonymous No.3627869]

>>3627724
I am sincere. Not trolling

[Anonymous No.3627891]

>>3623239
oh wow another "please suck my dick and also don't say mean things about my art thread because you're wrong" thread

[Anonymous No.3627923]

>>3627333
M. Grham & CO

[Anonymous No.3628100]

illastrat is a faggot and his paintings are shit

[Anonymous No.3628906]

>>3627891
You nailed it

[Anonymous No.3629189]

>>3626520
Looks like shit

[Anonymous No.3629245]

>>3623508

its ok to share art on 4chn, but be ready for a massive wave if trolls who will humiliate you.
get used to it ;)

[Anonymous No.3629247]

>>3624470
do u have a da account?

[Anonymous No.3629252]

>>3626520
>>3626605
Very good art desu, I'm fucking positive that 99% of the users here never achieved anything near that.

[Anonymous No.3629388]

>>3629247
Look up pastelchu on DA

[Anonymous No.3630306]

>>3623737
If you post garbage and you're not looking for constructive criticism expect people to call it out for what it is bluntly and harshly.

[Anonymous No.3630316]

>>3630306
I am looking for constructive criticism.

If you post garbage criticism guided by ignorant opinion on what is good and bad art and lack of understanding of what happened in the past 250 years in art history expect to be completely ignored and all your baseless claims repudiated.

[Anonymous No.3630319]

I revised this one. Her features are softer now

[flatty No.3630325]

>>3630316
i don't know if trolling or acoustic but fine, like, anyone can tell you have very little understanding of form, perspective, color, composition, etc. thats the basic critique.

[Anonymous No.3630347]

>>3630325
Do you and the "anyone"s you speak of not understand the word "abstraction"?

My professor told me that the whole painting works together and it was a good painting.

I think you know more than my professors and peers.

[flatty No.3630351]

>>3630347
thats like saying color, composition and everything i mentioned earlier have no place in abstract art. baka.

[Anonymous No.3630358]

>>3630319
her mouth looks like it was just injected with novocaine

[Anonymous No.3630362]

>>3630351
No they matter a lot. I am saying those elements are strong in my art. You are saying the opposite like the rest of people here. One of us is right and one of us is wrong. Guess who is right? Me

I already showed works that are in the style of academic realism. But that's not what I want. I want something new and experimental.

You are stomping on something good because of your ignorance.

If i see color blue and you say its black or green, i cannot show you that it is blue. Only you can try harder and see that the color is blue, or fail while trying because you are colorblind.

Same is true with evaluating art in general. You say good art is bad? And you think kitsch art is best? No one can save you except you yourself.

Even in kitsch art there is good composition and relationship of color and form but having those things does not make it any less kitsch or bad.

Good art is not kitsch. And by definition it must too have good composition and relationship of color and form but that definition cannot be held from the perspective of kitsch. It must be defined from the perspective of ever changing and dynamic experimental art

[flatty No.3630376]

>>3630362
I never argued anything related to personal taste, my critique is technical in nature.
>I already showed works that are in the style of academic realism.
nothing posted so far shows basic understanding of the various art concepts i mentioned earlier.

[Anonymous No.3630391]

>>3630376
I would say your criticism of my art in the technical is influenced by your taste. Because you do not understand abstract art and expect same rules of composition and color for figurative abstraction as you would with figurative realism.

It does not matter if you did not talk about personal taste. I was saying your technical criticism is invalid because I fulfilled those aspects of composition and color satisfactorily. It's like one person is saying the pencil's color is blue and another person is saying red. Only one person is right in that scenario.

And your technical points were too short. You mentioned color and composition but never went into detail.

And if you think the art is so bad that it does not warrant a long and detailed criticism then we have a problem. Because I am saying the art is good while you are saying the art is bad. Only one of us is correct. The other is wrong.

And my professors and peers are saying the art is good. They agree with me and I agree with them. So if you are going to insist that the art is bad, you have to do a lot of work to convince me that it's actually bad. And you are probably going to fail at that.

Just keep doing you. I will keep doing me. This is a struggle of ideology on what is good and bad art.

On ic you have the numerical advantage. In real life I probably got more people agreeing with me.

[Anonymous No.3630392]

>>3630347
>My professor told me
>think you know more than my professors and peers.

Now this thread finally makes sense.

[Anonymous No.3630393]

>>3630391
Composition and color are pretty independant of subject matter, muh abstraction doesn't change these at all.

[Anonymous No.3630398]

>>3630393
I am pretty sure abstraction pertains more to style than subject matter.

Style and subject are different

[flatty No.3630425]

>>3630391
>I was saying your technical criticism is invalid because I fulfilled those aspects of composition and color satisfactorily.
to your art professor and classmates maybe, but thats why you came to an artwork critique board, to get critiques.

>And your technical points were too short.

>perspective
everything you paint is a frontal shot with no depth
>color
inconsistent palette, no concept of brightness and contrast.
>composition
no concept of negative space, cropped everything

just to expand a bit. listen, i don't dislike you and i don't wanna fight you. as i mentioned earlier, you're either a troll our completely clueless and i prefer to think youre the latter. i'm trying to help bruv

also, dicks

[Anonymous No.3630508]

>>3630425
No depth? Why is that a bad thing? I am acknowledging that painting is paint on surface. It's a door, not a window to another illusionary world.

Inconsistent color? How about calling it abstract use of color? It's experimental. I will never follow a set color palette. That's too easy and predictable

Its not a bad composition. The negative space is small but that allows the painting to be action packed. Its cropped as if it were a photograph from a camera. Also the cropping allows wider range of impasto due to more space to work with the figures. You really cant do impasto well on small figures

[Anonymous No.3630530]

>>3630425
>>3630391
>>3630362
to flatty, trying to critique this delusional korean or whatever chink:
it's a lost cause. OP won't listen to criticism. apparently, his academy made the cardinal mistake of always telling him it was all "good as it is" in order to encourage improvement. in todays art academia, this is very typical. you try to be pleasing and friendly to all your students, despite flaws and technical inadequacies. they need more students every year, meet a quota, keep the money coming.

now you end up with people like OP that are hurling around metaphors like "i can't show you the color blue that i see!" and it becomes painfully apparent that they have locked themselves up in their own mind. you tell them that there is a cramped, unbalanced composition in the picture >>3623423 that falls apart ultimately. they won't listen.
tell them that the way of abstracting a portrait is obscene and repulsive and cartoonish >>3623472 they won't listen.
tell the that there is no foundation of basic anatomy to be found, but instead rather the opposite, bleating dilettantism that messes up every form and proportion >>3623612 no insight.

in OP, we have someone who blows his own trumpet, raises himself (herself) above all other for that crass misunderstainding of what "avantgarde" is. (I urge OP to exemplify what is supposed to be avantgarde about any of his paintings)

is it avantgarde that OP is like a really (really!) bad mix of Lyonel Feininger painting elements, badly mixed in with trying hard to get anywhere near Paul Gauguin? is that supposed to be avantgarde? when i look at the paintings OP makes, i only see "i tried ..." and i never see "this is my work".

the insecurity of trying to push some other, pseudo-edgy style with these >>3623440 makes it clear that OP is just blinded by the effect of suprising himself. but some of us are beyond the "wow, i can do that?" moment and look to create something original. not OP, not Illastrat, not Brian, not meme rat.

[Anonymous No.3630542]

>>3630508
>depth
this painting here is seemingly flat in places. her white dress seems flat, the skin as well. yet the silhouettes of the bodies and flats tell us a lot about the space in the painting, the space in the place they are placed in. you are nowhere near to managing such a well-orchestrated conundrum. in >>3623423, there is no consistency in any of the areas of the painting. in some places, you try to give depth to the bodies, then with another figure you don't do that at all. the spacial relationship of the figures is chaotic and makes no sense, they would in fact all overlap somehow. you try, but you can't manage to get there out of lack of basic understanding (like everyone in here is trying to tell you).
the landscape in the background is just "coloring in" so the canvas isn't all white. you haven't even tried to unify it with the rest of the painting. for all it's worth, it looks like you've cut off all around the painting, as there is no composition and no awareness of the edge of the canvas.

all these points explain to you in the most upfront way possible that you have a lot of things to learn and a long way to go. but i really doubt that you will proceed, giving that you believe you are a genius as it is. you are completely blinded.

[flatty No.3630569]

>>3630530
really makes you think...
i hope this person gets better soon c :

[Anonymous No.3630595]

>>3623239
>"hey look at my art"
>"thats nice but heres all the things wrong with it and how you could probably improve upon it"
>"fuck you you're wrong"

[Anonymous No.3630793]

>>3630542
Breddy good critique, but I doubt OP will listen to any of this, you are just jealous!

[Anonymous No.3630807]

have some bad art /ic/

[Anonymous No.3630808]

>>3630530
That's simply not true. Have you ever been in an art school? Teachers will shred your art to pieces if they dont like it. My teachers love my art, most of the time.

You can label it "cramped" and "unbalanced" but none of that stands. I wanted something action packed with big figures occupying most of the space. You can't have both. You need to choose one. And I don't want what you want. I want what I want.

Cartoonish? That's exactly what I wanted.

No foundation of anatomy? Yes foundation of anatomy. The abstraction of the figures is anatomically based. Either you can't see that or you think I must paint realistically. I reject both.

Avant garde is simply art that deals with formal aspects such as abstraction that is experimental and always changing in nature.

I did create something original, bud. Again, you are throwing all these negative labels and phrases at me, but they just won't stick because they are not real. You see color red? I see color blue. And I am right.

>>3630542
It's not flat enough. I don't want to talk about spatial relationships. I want to talk about impasto and abstract strokes of color and shapes.

I would love a white background if it fits the painting. I am not simply coloring in stuff, bud.

>>3630569
You can make drum noise and make a ruckus all you want, agreeing among yourselves. Doesn't make it any more true.

>>3630595
"hey look at my art"
"that's nice but heres all the things wrong with it and how you could probably improve upon it"
"no your opinion is irrelevant because that's not the art i want to create, and you do not see the merits in even my best works. you are simply here to troll."

>>3630793
I am pretty content with my art and where I am going. I am not jealous.

[Anonymous No.3630833]

>>3630808
Your reply to the critiques is even worse than I expected, tell me, why are you even here if everyone on /ic/ is just a dumb troll? Why waste your time with us cretins?

[Anonymous No.3630854]

>>3630808
>That's simply not true.
>You can label it "cramped" and "unbalanced" but none of that stands.
you always say that, time and again. "ney ney ney! it's all not true! i'm great!"

fuck. you.

[Anonymous No.3630858]

>>3630808
>you are throwing all these negative labels and phrases at me, but they just won't stick because they are not real.
"you are all stupid! all i want to hear is how great it is! mummy always says 'if you can't say something nice, say nothing at all!' yet i come here to a board labeled 'artword & critique', but i don't want the critique part!"

go fuck yourself, chunbun or whichever namefag you are.
don't post your erratic, half-baked smeared canvases, if you can't stand the criticism. this is literally a board for criticism. CRI TI CI SM ...
if all you want is to be applauded by folks who know shit about art (like you), go show this to your friends and family. we aren't friends, or family. we critique the shit out of you, if it's fair and appropriate. go cry somewhere else.

[Anonymous No.3630871]

>>3623252
I would like this one more if the edges were sharp and clean, right now it looks just shy of amateur.

Maybe lay some masking tape down?

[Anonymous No.3631070]

>>3624470
>can't paint gorilla
>smear paint and pray it works
>looks like shit
>i-it's just abstract you guys!!

[Anonymous No.3631159]

>>3631070
Exactly.

[Anonymous No.3631483]

>>3631070
It's supposed to be my own monster creation. Not necessarily copying a gorilla

>>3631159
Exactly my ess

[Anonymous No.3632132]

Earlier in the thread you insisted people outside this board would love this. So...just in case you were wondering what the average person's reaction to this would be, I showed that "gorilla" painting to my coworker today and asked, "What do you think of this?"

She looked at it in bug-eyed silence for a minute, and then looked at me and tentatively said, "Did...YOU draw this?" When I said "fuck no," she said, "Oh good, because it's fucking horrific."

There you go. The average artist thinks it's crap, and the average non-artist (whose artistic credentials extend to colouring books) looked at it like she'd found the body of a hostile alien lying in a field. IT SUCKS, stop letting your shitty school blow smoke up your ass.

Although I still suspect you're actually just a regular here trolling.

[Anonymous No.3632159]

>mfw this thread is still going and OP is STILL defending her shitty art

[Anonymous No.3632343]

>>3632132
How does that prove anything? All it did was to prove your friend's ignorance in art.

Do you still not get that my professors approved of the painting, and so did my peers? And even non artists like it too.

I have a friend who tells me when he doesnt like a work that I did. He is a collector. He looks at everything that I did and tells me if he likes it or not. He's quite honest and tells me its not my best if he thinks so.

And he said he liked the gorilla painting. So there you go. Prople love that painting. I love that painting.

The other point is that it doesn't matter whether ppl like something or not. We are not the true judge of good and bad art. The real judge is God. I only care if I pleased divinity itself.

[Anonymous No.3632354]

>>3632343
>Do you still not get that my professors approved of the painting, and so did my peers? And even non artists like it too.
I cannot believe someone could write a sentence like this and not be baiting.

[Anonymous No.3632363]

>>3632354
Explain?

[Anonymous No.3632389]

>>3632343
I absolutely KNEW you would say my coworker is "ignorant." Hilarious. And of COURSE you have a friend with "good taste" who likes your stuff. I mean...people have sneeze fetishes, doesn't mean sneezes are actually sexy.

Thing is, MOST people are "ignorant" about art. All of the "ignorant" non-artists I have passed this thread around to at work today laughed hard at how much they think your paintings suck. They said the one of the woman in a bra with a deformed face looks like it has SOME skill behind it...but it's ugly. So if you don't want to appeal to the majority of artists and you don't want to appeal to other people in general, who the hell is your art for? "God" is a fucking cop-out and "myself" is an answer for middle school teenagers.

And you come off like a troll because no one can believe someone this lacking self-awareness is real.

[Anonymous No.3632458]

>>3630347
>>3630316
WHY ak if your professor etc think you're the Bee's Knee's already? If they think you're fabulous, and you do too, sod off and let /ic/ have some well deserved peace.

You total gimp.

[Anonymous No.3632480]

>>3630508
Botticelli didn't go in for depth either, but his paintings weren't shit.
What's your excuse?

[Anonymous No.3632529]

>>3632389
Okay okay, you knew and of course it's hillarious.

I am right though. My art is good. If you don't understand it it's your loss.

That botticelli painting is not flat enough.

[Anonymous No.3632534]

>>3632389
Also btw most " artists" are not real artists. Their art is not very good.

[Anonymous No.3632541]

>>3623440
lol, single points for the eyes AND nose...

this shit is garbage. get back to work OP

[Anonymous No.3632548]

>>3623239
What makes you think this is art is more interesting.

[Anonymous No.3632549]

>>3627329
just saying it doesn't make it so.

[Anonymous No.3632552]

>>3630319
wtf is that going up her neck??? you're obvious laziness when it comes down to doing the things that matter (perspective, anatomy, etc) is what disgusts me about you.

honestly, if you had come in here and been honest "hey, i'm an amateur artist/student, working on some stuff, and i'd like to get some critique", that would have been fine and dandy.

but...
>There will be more that you like if you open your eyes and observe more carefully
Art is all about appreciation of beauty

Nah, go fuck yourself you pretentious prick. Your shit is truly awful.

[Anonymous No.3632583]

>>3632541
That's what makes it so good. Just points that capture the soul and essence of the person

>>3632549
Same goes for you. Just saying opposite doesn't make it any more real.

>>3632552
Her neck is anatomically correct. What are you smoking

[Anonymous No.3632873]

Fantasy I

[Damien No.3632932]

Since this is a bad art thread

[Damien No.3632933]

[Anonymous No.3632980]

>>3632583
>That's what makes it so good. Just points that capture the soul and essence of the person
I have said this before, but how can someone actually say this, no hint of self awareness in sight. OP one could argue loke this for literally any painting or drawing in existence, try ot with a random pic from Google that you don't like.

[Anonymous No.3633026]

>>3630319
>>3632552
>>3632583

you guys don't understand. this is a 100% correct! you just don't have the eye for it!
all my professors love my work. it is really really great.

[Anonymous No.3633035]

>>3633026
Oh god, I'm saving this.

[Anonymous No.3633510]

>>3633026
I actually like what you did. The head is too small.

My painting Fantasy I is a beast.

[Anonymous No.3633514]

>>3623612
could be good! if not the massive ASS

[Anonymous No.3633517]

>>3633514
You are disgusting

[Anonymous No.3633524]

>>3632932
>>3632933
These are actually pretty bad. Not good art like mine or my friends'

[Anonymous No.3633980]

Seated Model I

I rephotographed an old painting from 2016

[Anonymous No.3634099]

>>3633524
I mean it is a bad art thread

[Anonymous No.3634441]

>>3633980
your use of color is embarrassing. gesture shows lazy zig-zag patterns and i can imagine you standing there, laying them down quickly like "i am so brave and artistic! what a virtuoso i am!"
trying to get all the leftover colors from your palette on the painting ... god, your paintings give me a migrane.

[Anonymous No.3634839]

>>3634441
That's funny. My teacher told me this was a good painting, as usual.

[Anonymous No.3634982]

>>3634839
post your teachers website or work please.

[Anonymous No.3634994]

>>3634982
All I can tell you is that one of three most renowned art museums in the world keeps buying her art. She is a brilliant mind and painter.

[Anonymous No.3635004]

>>3634994
Excellent, so you won't mind telling us her name then?

[Anonymous No.3635024]

>>3634994
>one of three most renowned art museums
>one of three
I can easily name you more than "three" most renowned art museums in the world, beta.

[Anonymous No.3635039]

>>3635004
I won't tell you her name.

Her name is sacred.

>>3635024
This is one of three most renowned.

[Anonymous No.3635095]

>>3635039
All lies then, typical internet boasting.
My dad works for nintendo, BTW.

[Anonymous No.3635109]

>>3634839
Your teacher should quit. Those z-shaped breasts are horrifying.

[Anonymous No.3635192]

>>3635095
I am telling the truth.
You are telling a lie.

We are not the same.

[Anonymous No.3635196]

>>3623239
Are we sure this is even illastrat anymore? Wouldn't it be just as easy to imitate him?

[Anonymous No.3635228]

>>3635109
You just don't understand. You are blind and soulless

[Anonymous No.3635229]

>>3635192
Prove you are telling the truth. What is your teachers' name, and show her work.
Otherwise, we will never believe you, liar-chu

[Anonymous No.3635235]

>>3635229
God knows the truth. I don't care if you do or don't believe. You are wolves. You are cynical and uninspired. You cannot see colors and abstraction as I can.

I really respect my teachers.

I am a tiger. I know what truth is. No one needs to believe me. Truth is between me and God.

[Anonymous No.3635252]

>>3635235
LIES

[Anonymous No.3635279]

>>3635252
Whatever man. You are a nobody. A wolf

[Anonymous No.3635310]

>>3635279
Better to be a wolf anon, than a feeble, protesting liar-chu. Unable to prove any of his falsehoods, just coming up with with mean words on a forum.

[Anonymous No.3635361]

>>3635310
I am simply not going to tell you the name of my instructor. She is a renowned painter. She trusts that I will keep her privacy.

I am not going to feed you wolf with materials for your own entertainment.

Who do you think you are? You are just a wolf

[Anonymous No.3635781]

>>3635235
>God knows the truth.

>You cannot see colors and abstraction as I can.
It's not possible to picture this outside of your gradeur perception, but there are people who are 100x more inspired than you with your awful fucking take on nude painting. You make an astonishing amount of basic mistakes, know nothing about color mixing:
! you just throw a dozen of colors in one picture, hoping this will ultimately distract from your gaping lack of anatomy and understanding form !

show me one single painting you did, where you used a maximum of three colors. you have no basic feeling for color, yet you jump on color abstraction and overkill as if you knew it all.
likewise, your anatomy is embarrassing, but you don't only try to get one single body right, you just put five or seven bodies in one picture, hoping that the viewer gets lost in another mess of a painting.

your main tool is dilettantish form of dissipation of the focus. you can tell whether an artist is good by looking at more simple works, smaller works with only one or two objects.
in your "where's waldo?" style sunday painters abstractions, reminescent of a long gone european Blauer Reiter or late expressionism (with a total brain damage), there is no focus, no consistency and nothing else to be found other than "i'm trying hard, but i can't".

but the worst about you is that you think you are good and fend off all criticism. you are self-righteous when you should be humble and realistic about your own skills.

>tldr; you are an obnoxious entry level student, stuck in a loop of entry level mistakes.

you are afraid to even disclose your teachers, because with a high likeliness, they suck ass just like you.

[Anonymous No.3635783]

>>3635235
>God knows the truth.

>You cannot see colors and abstraction as I can.
It may not be possible for you to picture this outside of your delusional perception, but there are people in the /beg/ thread who are 100x more inspired than you with your awful fucking take on nude painting. You make an astonishing amount of basic mistakes, know nothing about color mixing:
! you just throw a dozen of colors in one picture, hoping this will ultimately distract from your gaping lack of anatomy and understanding form !

show me one single painting you did, where you used a maximum of three colors. you have no basic feeling for color, yet you jump on color abstraction and overkill as if you knew it all.
likewise, your anatomy is embarrassing, but you don't only try to get one single body right, you just put five or seven bodies in one picture, hoping that the viewer gets lost in another mess of a painting.

your main tool is dilettantish form of dissipation of the focus. you can tell whether an artist is good by looking at more simple works, smaller works with only one or two objects.
in your "where's waldo?" style sunday painters abstractions, reminescent of a long gone european Blauer Reiter or late expressionism (with a total brain damage), there is no focus, no consistency and nothing else to be found other than "i'm trying hard, but i can't".

but the worst about you is that you think you are good and fend off all criticism. you are self-righteous when you should be humble and realistic about your own skills.

>tldr; you are an obnoxious entry level student, stuck in a loop of entry level mistakes.

you are afraid to even disclose your teachers, because with a high likeliness, they suck ass just like you.
as much as i hate this argument, but you are the prime example for a "muh style!" idiot. your style is not a style, it is bleating deficiancy.

[Anonymous No.3635805]

>>3624470
you painted two gorillas

[Anonymous No.3635974]

>>3635783
My teacher says my paintings are good.

A world renowned art museum keeps buying her art.

These are the only two things that matter.

[Anonymous No.3635981]

>>3635805
A gorilla thinks everything is a gorilla

[Anonymous No.3635991]

>>3623737

correct me if I'm wrong but I've always found abstract art (cubism and and much of abstract art in general) as something that people who do not know much about drawing and their lack of "talent" leaves them confined to doing only abstract things because, well , is the only thing that they know, how to move a brush. if not, please, demonstrate your ability by making a realistic portrait or without looking for an abstraction of any kind. if they can not do it well it is because they justify their lack of knowledge in art by saying that it is "Abstract".

[Anonymous No.3636014]

>>3635991
You are very close minded and ignorant. Not every art has to depict objects in the real world.

Abstraction brings freedom and liberation for an artist. It demonstrates divine relationships of color and form.

Abstract artists are a truly inspired bunch. Do not think that what they are doing is easy. "I could do that."

No you couldn't .

[Anonymous No.3636023]

>>3636014
To be fair, you need a really high IQ to truly comprehend illastrat's art.

[Anonymous No.3636028]

>>3636023
I disagree with your sarcasm. Anyone can appreciate illastrat 's art. You just need to open your mind and think outside the boundaries.

[Anonymous No.3636042]

>>3636014
>It demonstrates divine relationships of color and form.
how would you know?
just look at your lazy, awful shit.

[Anonymous No.3636059]

>>3636014
1) I never said it was easy, it is not.
2) I do abstract art and surrealist art more than anything, like the image.
3) I could not write more according to what you say about abstract art and freedom of expression.
but in my short experience I have seen that people who make abstract art do not know the basics of drawing, they do not know how to make a simple portrait, they do not have any notion of proportion or perspective. One thing is to look for a result in particular, abstracting from what you know. And another thing is to draw badly. Do not be offended I do not seek to fuck anyone, I only give my opinion.

[Anonymous No.3636086]

>>3636042
You wouldn't know. You closed your mind.

>>3636059
I know the basics though. Just look at my art. I am not goofing off. I can do pretty much any style.. in my own style

[Anonymous No.3636142]

>>3636086
i haven't seen anything of your works. can you show me some thing?

[Anonymous No.3636145]

>>3636142
Most of the works in this thread are mine.

[Anonymous No.3636210]

>>3636145
look dude, I have to say that you paint well, you are very loose and all that and you use a good range of colors and blah blah blah ... the typical thing that most teachers will tell you. but it shows (and this goes beyond the style of drawing) that you lack some basic notions, that if you knew them, your art would be much better in its general. but it's not like that, it shows that something is out of place and I'm not a professional critic and nothing but I can notice that something is wrong. and as far as I can read, you think you know more than the others and that "as you are open minded" you appreciate art more than others. You have a very high ego and that's crap in art. you settle for what you have and do not progress. Do not do that. I repeat, you have to study more the baces. when you have a solid knowledge of them, it is when you can ignore them later.

[Anonymous No.3636331]

>>3636210
Your drive to depict me amateurish and mediocre exists only in your own head and collective imagination.

Are you saying my teacher who has works in the permanent collection of a major museum is wrong?

Teachers after teachers in my long years of study as student have said good things about my art. I never met a single teacher who did not like my art.

Art is not about finding flaws. It's about finding merits. My art got strong merits. I will keep producing in my unique style.

[Anonymous No.3636339]

>>3636331
>Are you saying my teacher who has works in the permanent collection of a major museum is wrong?
That's exactly what people are saying, yes.

>my long years of study as student
Time wasted, evidently.

>I never met a single teacher who did not like my art.
This is a lie. I'm a talented writer myself, and was praised to high heaven by most teachers from the time I entered school for my writing ability. I can still not make the claim that I've never had a teacher who disliked my work, LET ALONE that I've never had a teacher criticize my work. On the contrary, I had many teachers absolutely bust my balls in a way that they didn't with less capable students because they could see it was worth pushing me to improve even more.

If you're for real and not trolling, either you're an outrageous liar...or your teachers consider you so pathetic that they don't even bother to offer you the gift of criticism.

Please just admit this is an elaborate troll already. Fuck.

[Anonymous No.3636346]

>>3630808
>"no your opinion is irrelevant because that's not the art i want to create, and you do not see the merits in even my best works. you are simply here to troll.'
>translation: "fuck you its muh style"

[Anonymous No.3636357]

>>3636339
1. You are wrong. People here are wrong. My teacher is right.

2. If you think that it shows your true nature of your bias and ideology based on ignorance and close mindedness.

3. My teachers did criticize my art on what could be improved... and I followed their advice. But it is true that they all liked my art overall. All the way from high school to present day. I study at a top art school in the country.

[Anonymous No.3636358]

>>3636331
>"Art is not about finding flaws"
h o l y s h i t l m f a o
you are half right
its about finding flaws so you can fix them and finding merits so you can improve upon them

[Anonymous No.3636359]

>>3636346
Correction: fu troll my art is good

[Anonymous No.3636363]

>>3636358
Yes you can find flaws to improve. But the focus and main point and essence of evaluating art is to find merits.

[Anonymous No.3636396]

>>3636357
We don't care until we know your school and your teachers.
I've got to go now, my dad is picking me up & taking me to Nintendo sekrit klub.

[Anonymous No.3636400]

>>3636396
Too bad you will have to stop caring. I don't care if you don't care. I am just doing what I have to do. I will never reveal to you anything about myself or my teachers.

[Anonymous No.3636431]

>>3636357
i traid to be nece and chill but you are crely a child and a egocentric. if you only see the good in your work and every teacher treat you like a baby thats the reason of why your lack of talent. the only thing you do in your school is abstract things? please i want to be wrong at this point, show me some of your other works. estudies of some kind of, more realism anatomicly correct paints, potraits, anything eals. like the image.

[Anonymous No.3636471]

>>3636400
leave.
and never come back with your shit.
you reject ALL criticism.
fuck you.
fucking get the fuck out of here and keep painting these retarded, edgy cartoon paintings.

[Anonymous No.3636695]

>>3636471
this

[Anonymous No.3636696]

>>3636431

this is bad too though. looks like what happens after you spend 100k+ on an art degree and end up copying the impressionists anyway.

[Anonymous No.3636732]

Goddess Of Han River

[Anonymous No.3636750]

>>3636732
So OP, what is the point of this thread?, to say "you are wrong" to every criticism?, or to wait until someone says that your stuff is good wich will never happen.

[Anonymous No.3636991]

>>3623472
Damn dude, your art is as kitchy as sakimi's but you're also pretencious.

[Anonymous No.3636992]

>>3636991
I'm sorry this is my first time bashing you I just wanted to be a part of something but this doesn't feel right

[Anonymous No.3637011]

>>3636992
Right? It feels like making fun of a mentally handicapped kid at this point.

[Anonymous No.3637054]

>>3637011
You're making this a lot worse

OP pls try something else with your art. Anything, doesn't have to be realism. Maybe a different medium that forces you to think differently. Airbrushing for example could bring new life to your dot stuff.

[Anonymous No.3637079]

Strg+f "teacher"

Only a woman could refer to her authority over and over as if it was the absolute truth.

[Anonymous No.3637203]

>>3636696
I just want to see some of his non-abstract works. something more anatomically correct. That painting was the first I saw in Google images. If he does not know how to do something anatomically correct, that would explain why his art is "abstract". Ir anything thats not abstract please.

[Anonymous No.3637518]

[Anonymous No.3637602]

>>3636357
>You are wrong. People here are wrong. My teacher is right.
Why are dozens of other artists wrong but one single teacher correct? Bear in mind that none of us are even indirectly getting paid by you.

>My teachers did criticize my art on what could be improved... and I followed their advice.
What advice did they give you and how did you follow it?

>>3636696
idk, I like the colors.

>>3636732
This is just godawful. It looks like it was drawn by someone who has never picked up a colored pencil before in their life. Never mind anything else, your colored pencil technique is the absolute pits - how do you think anyone is even going to focus on the subject matter with that kind of childish rendering? It looks like a middle school kid half-heartedly colored it in rather than listen to a lecture. Omg, the lazy blending. It's AWFUL.

[Anonymous No.3638077]

>>3636732
Translating your work to another medium shows your lack of skill without hiding it behind the appealing texture and patina of paint. This is awful my dude. It's a cartoon that looks like it was made by an elementary school student. Your abstraction is immature and shallow because you haven't the fundamentals to expand your work.

This is also why all your work looks the same. Flat, front facing view, same angle, similar poses, horrible sense of proportion and anatomy, with limited sense of value and color. You aren't able to change it up because you don't know how. You've never learned.

You may say, but my work is experimental! This is akin to a person who decides they will play the piano by just mashing the keys. They deny the consensus of what makes music sound good, and the importance of music theory and learning the traditional techniques for the sake of breaking the rules. However, they don't understand that you must first learn the rules before you can break them in an artistic way, in a substantial way. Otherwise, you are just making random noises with an untrained ear. This is you, making splotches of paint without a clue as to what you're doing. This is obvious to us and everyone here.

It is also obvious to your peers and teachers, but of course they will not be candid with you because they want to preserve their relationship with you. Your professor likes your work in the same way that a parent that won't tell their 5 year old kid that their drawing is bad, and may even collect them for sentimental value. You are stuck in a bubble, and your art truly is for no one but yourself because no one can appreciate it. If art was a language, you've not made your work intelligible to us or anyone else, you've not given it structure or grammar, so it remains unruly sounding gibberish.

[Anonymous No.3638695]

>>3623612
How big is this and how much would you sell it for ?

[Anonymous No.3638913]

>>3638695
75 x 75 inches
$5000

[Anonymous No.3638916]

I fixed it per my friend's suggestion

They love it mostly

[Anonymous No.3639209]

>>3638077
Holy shit, murdered

[Anonymous No.3639272]

Wtf is wrong with you, your work is not fine art, it's pseudo-abstraction with high-key overtones of bestiality and a heaping cup of incorrect color usage. I shan't forget to mention the chance you used any reference for any of these pieces is slim-to-none. Alligators are not that small, and they are not able to stand on your fucking knee, and the stomach would be dropping, not in a damn plank. Your art is not avante-garde, because every half-assed middle/high schooler art student paints with this level of skill. These compositions are all boring as hell too. Putting words on top of your shit doesn't make you Basquiat. You demonstrate no level of understanding of how to harmonize color or when to use warm or cool colors. If this is all you can achieve after years of art school you need to drop out now and start flipping burgers. The guy earlier was spot on with you not being able to use and blend colored pencils, you do circular motions, not back and forth.. You have an underlayer. Not that any more layers are worth it, BECAUSE THE COMPOSITION IS BORING. The only thing of merit you've shown was the reflection of the tree and the highlights on the water, but the boat being completely out of perspective was what i noticed first and i very nearly moved on without taking a second look. TL;DR, your art is boring and it's nothing new, it's not "experimental," it's trash. People were better at abstract art than this over 100 years ago.

[Anonymous No.3639420]

>>3638913
>$5000
>not 5$

[Anonymous No.3641094]

>>3637602
You guys need to stop thinking that teachers will cozy up to you simple because you are paying them. When you are in school, you are paying the school, and what you are paying the school has not much to do with what the school pays the teachers.

I teach as well - one one tutoring in painting. I will always tell my student what is wrong with their work. There is no wrong in that.

It's you guys on /ic/ that are in a delusional bubble. You think that teachers in art schools are bad for you. You guys are beyond saving.

Usually it's the simple anatomical errors that they ask me to fix, but sometimes it can be as big a change as what I want to say in my paintings and why I want to make the image.

[Anonymous No.3641099]

>>3638077
Again, my professor tells me what needs fixing. He says he liked this drawing. There is no reason why he should treat me like a five year old, as you would fantasize in your five year oldish delusional mind of ignorance and chaos.

It's you who is in a bubble, not me.

I already "learn"ed the "rules" but I will always make art that is free from what you think art should be. My art exists on another plane from your close minded unimaginative conventions of what art should be.

[Anonymous No.3641105]

>>3639272
Yes you can use technical words and jargons like warm and cool colors, composition, layers, etc. but the conclusion you came to in your analysis is drastically different from the analyses given by my friends and teachers who said that this painting in particular (The Beauty and the Beast III) is conceptual due to the usage of words within the image and color was spot on.

Of course, you can't see colors the way I can, can you? You are helpless and beyond saving.

You are not the same as me. You are simply a wolf.

[Anonymous No.3641227]

>>3624475
absolutely savage

[Anonymous No.3642002]

>>3623467
abstracted art earns more than realistic art, patrons throw more dosh at abstract because he happend to click with your work

[Anonymous No.3642004]

>>3626520
worthless trash not even worthy of my toilet or hallway, fucking chamomille slut

[Anonymous No.3642042]

>>3641105
>conceptual
The field of art where you try to put in the least amount of effort possible? Sounds like your shit.