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What is ic's opinion about Proko?

>> No.3615829

>>3615813
>regurgitates other people's content into his own paywalled videos (mostly Hampton and Vilppu).
>free videos are very surface level

>> No.3615835

>>3615813
I like his shirt choices. He okey.

>> No.3615884

he's ok for leaving some video running while doing something else, but i'd rather do books for serious studying

>> No.3615905

>>3615813
can'tgaroo

>> No.3615907

He's kinda patronising at times but good for beginners.

>> No.3616153

I like his stuff

>> No.3616265

Too many joeks
No imagination

>> No.3616293

>>3615813
Literally not a master, irrelevant even among YouTubers in terms of content. All guests on his channel draw and teach miles better than him.

He's the community college of internet tutorials.

>> No.3616301

He recently got 1 mil subs. He must be doing something right.

>> No.3616339

>>3615829
>>3615884
>>3616265
>>3616293
Buttmad ngmi futanigs.

>> No.3616352
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>>3615813
i would have recommended him for /beg/ years ago, but today there are a great many more teachers who can do it better.

-try KNKL (if you have a high tolerance)
-moderndayjames is also great, especially for perspective
-FZD will help you build good habits and teach you how to gain mileage efficiently instead of drawing mindlessly and hoping you'll have improved at the end

>> No.3616363

>>3616352
What do the acronymes stand for?

>> No.3616369

>>3615907
get a thicker skin

>> No.3616370

>>3616339
lol hes mad

>> No.3616371

>>3616352
FZD teaches you how to paint and concept. He isn't as useful if you want to get better at line art or draw characters

>> No.3616372

>>3616352
> Knkl
>Fzd

Um, I think proko specializes in different things Anon. Knkl looks like anime studies while fzd seems perspective/ landscape oriented.

>> No.3616376

>>3616370
I'm butthurt.

>> No.3616410

>>3616369
No

>> No.3616756

>>3615813
Wanna see an environment drawing from him

>> No.3616764

>>3616293
Fairly accurate. I feel like he knows he can engage with more retards/make more money with the basic videos he does make - rehashing Vilppu, Loomis, Watts. I would be interested to learn more about his painting as seen by works on his professional personal site. It seems like there's a huge hurdle between him making personal videos and rote instruction you'd teach any beginner.

He's obviously interested in a lot more than what he teaches, such as all the Court Jones videos. The "Drawing Advice for Students" videos are a lot more self-aware and hopefully means he'll be adjust his videos in the future since he's covered about all he can milk from anatomy by now unless he goes way in-depth on things like the flexors and extensors in the arm and other minutia (I'm seeing his inner leg anatomy now). I'd love to see him challenge himself more in the free content like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_IytAnahvA but I can understand keeping it paywalled too. I could be completely wrong but hopefully he's evaluating what he wants to do with his channel next year. The guest artist appearances like Westerberg, Gurney, and Blaise made for such better content that I wish he could dive deeper into art instead of staying at the surface.

>> No.3616838

>>3615813

Bluepilled on art and life

>> No.3616851

>>3616352
FZD stands for FZDSchool?
I'd like some advice on mileage.

>> No.3616874

>>3615813
Good introductory content, but lacks depth. Best thing about his content is that it's accessible and easy to consume for beginners.

>> No.3616877

>>3615813
is his paid content good? my figure and anatomy is pretty bad
also better question
can I buy it, copy and refund?

>> No.3616883

>>3616352
>KNKL
Decent art, but I can't fucking stand him.

>> No.3616886

>>3616877
>is his paid content good?
It's practically his free stuff but uncensored and more time lapse. For me, no it was awful.

>my figure and anatomy is pretty bad
that's your own lack of study. no course will help you if you haven't already pursued. scott eaton's is probably the best for learning but it's not a drawing course so you need to supplement your knowledge with Huston, Hampton, Vilppu, etc.

>> No.3616899

>>3615813
Skilled but not very useful as a teacher

>> No.3616920

>>3615813
Proko loco

>> No.3616939

>>3616877
There's not much in the paid content that isn't basically covered by his free vids. You're better off getting Michael Hampton or Vilppu vids which offer much more depth.

>> No.3617045

>>3616352
>-try KNKL (if you have a high tolerance)
High tolerance for what?

>> No.3617151
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3617151

I look at any online content in the context of art degrees that run into the tens of thousands of dollars, and to that end Proko's premium content is extremely reasonable for what you get.

His schtick can be grating but I'd be lying if I said I haven't ever once cracked a smile at some of his terrible, terrible jokes (though none of his deliberate hit or miss attempts at humor compare to his famous kangaroo)

He has the best 3D models around (there are other options though: https://pastebin.com/9VgmQQPk)) and he uses them to great effect in his lectures, which are themselves mercifully brief and easily watched over and over again as necessary.

In short, you could do a hell of a lot worse.

>> No.3617160

>>3617151
You could do a he'll of a lot better too

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>>3617160
OH how I WISH that were true, lad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlAy2WzNepU

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>>3617160
Yeah...uh...I sure could!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npax4EnekZU

>> No.3617659

Best YT channel for beginners. He does lack depth, but at least he's not inculcating bad habits for someone starting.

>> No.3617678

>>3617659
What kind of bad habits ?

>> No.3617719

>>3615813
Nigga makes me smile

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3617737

>>3617045
see >>3616883

>>3616851
yes. and this video in particular set me up for some good habits. https://youtu.be/WLqWX7onVmU
at first it was impossible to even think of drawing 2 hours a day, so i started with just half an hour. this was months ago. now i can draw for 2-3 hours each day pretty easily.

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>enter thread
>no kangaroo

I'm disappointed.

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3619167

>>3617924
I need a quick rundown on this meme.

>> No.3619197

>>3617924
>>3615905

>> No.3619222

Good guy, learned a couple of things from his videos but his jokes get a bit annoying.
And I really can't stand that whistle in his intro tune.

>> No.3619298

He should add muscles to his Skelly app

>> No.3619351

>>3615813
He's literally been cucked by Watts. Ask his wife.

>> No.3619355

>>3619167
somewhere in the 41:50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOuIgevbHs8&t=2510s

>> No.3619362

>>3619167
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4h4-2HRHaHI

dude who only draws from observation (atelier style) can't actually draw from construction/animation of an animal. his aaron blaise stuff was funny too because he had no idea how to draw animals even though he tried studying a few days prior. he could draw gorillas because they're not far from being humans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX4LbI_5kmQ#t=6m50s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hwvh29UQKUM

>> No.3619388

Proko is a pretentious jewish narcissist and I am surprised how people can even begin to like him because he just reeks of narcissism.
Comments and likes are obviously paid for by him by a bunch of asians from fiverr.

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>>3619388
Is he really a Jew? Sauce?

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3619423

>that pussy whipped friend who starts crafting his life and work around his gf and starts to degenerate as a result
We've all met one

>> No.3619465

>>3619423
Why is wall e the white one and the yellow one Eva dumb proko

>> No.3619858

>>3616883
>>3617737
But why?