/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.3615060]

>can finally see the shapes

[Anonymous No.3615079]

How'd you do it. I can tell my brain is still trying to draw something flat on paper.

[Anonymous No.3615214]

>>3615060
>can't stop seeing it

[Anonymous No.3615314]

>>3615079
This. Tell me how to see the shapes.

[Anonymous No.3615316]

Now EVERYTHING IS SHAPES

[Anonymous No.3615344]

Feels good. But now I can’t really stop

[Anonymous No.3615358]

>>3615344
>>3615344
Time to challenge yourself OP

[Anonymous No.3615424]

How long did it take you anons? I could only really see them after 2-3 years

[Anonymous No.3615437]

>>3615424
As soon I played more with the emblem maker in video games than actually playing the game.

[Anonymous No.3615520]

>>3615079
>>3615314
Not OP, but it really isn't that hard for me. Just try to practice this exercise while you observing the world around you. You don't even need to draw at the time. Basically pic related but from right to left.

[Anonymous No.3615526]

>>3615060
>aphantasia
>TFW you have no idea what everyone is talking about
>TFW you will never see the shapes

Q_Q

[Anonymous No.3615535]

>>3615526
Same. I can't picture anything in my head. Absolutely nothing.

[Anonymous No.3615537]

>>3615535
Guess it's just good old measuring and figuring out angles for us then buddy :(

Hey a question for you though do you have dreams or no? My mind's eye is there just enough to let me have dreams (but still zero visualization when awake) but I never remember them in the morning.

[Anonymous No.3615543]

>>3615060
youre not officially in the club until you post your work

[Anonymous No.3615548]

>>3615535
>>3615537
Hey friends, you could try out simple low polygonal modelling and then work on visualizing those same shapes in your head. I don't know if it would help you, but modelling really strengthened my visualization abilities after a while.

[Anonymous No.3615561]

>>3615548
No you misunderstand it's a neurological condition that makes you physically unable to visualize. I don't understand your advice past "draw low poly models".

My whole life I have only ever thought in vague concepts. Never had issue with symbol drawing vs drawing what I see though because I don't keep visual symbols in my head. If someone tells a story about walking in on their grandma naked I don't "see" anything as you normal people do.

Always blank. No visuals. No "voice" for my thoughts. Can't imagine anything. Can't have a visual library even though I understand what it's supposed to be I guess.

Sucks.

[Anonymous No.3615563]

>>3615537
Very, very, very rarely I'll have primitive dreams Nothing fancy.

[Anonymous No.3615638]

>>3615563
That's sad man. I have these super vivid dreams where I fly through these worlds and lots of random stuff happens
>run down a steep cliff
>getting chased by two black dogs from the castle above
>there's mist everywhere
>next second I'm in a flat grassland
>a pretty lady in white appears through the mist and kisses me
>walk further and now I'm surrounded by marsh
>run madly and start flying
>it's night now
>see a light far off and fly towards it
>girl with a lantern in a country lane
>she scolds me for something
>dream ends

[Anonymous No.3615685]

I can only "visualize" vague glimpses of whatever I'm supposed to be thinking of. I can't draw faces from memory whatsoever. I'll rarely have perfectly vivid dreams but voluntarily picturing something in my mind's eye is like squinting my eyes in the dusk.
My goal involves lots of drawing from imagination. Is there hope for development here or is it laughable that I'm even attempting it?

[Anonymous No.3615687]

>>3615561
Sorry anon. Maybe this is a stupid question, but if you try REALLY hard, anything? Or just all black, all the time? I know it sucks, but maybe it could be even more inspiration for you to create visual art.

[Anonymous No.3615691]

>>3615685
>Is there hope for development
If I understand you correctly, you could make it if you drew heavily from refs

[Anonymous No.3615696]

>>3615691
I meant is there any evidence that you can develop mental visualization, since my end goal is primarily drawing from imagination without refs.

[Anonymous No.3615699]

>>3615535
>>3615526
I believe your visualization skills just need practice but it's not entirely gone. How do you think of what to draw if you can't picture anything in your head? If I tell you to think of a pink elephant, can you imagine something of that sort?

[Anonymous No.3615717]

>>3615561
holy shit NPCs really do exist

[Anonymous No.3615725]

>>3615687
All black all the time, baby.

It's all good man I don't know a life with visualization so living without it just means I have to study even harder and construct everything in proper perspective, and really grind out my fundies. That's how it always has been.

Until I was 24 I thought that things like "Oh I just can't imagine what that's like!" were just sayings. NOPE yall weird fuckers are really seeing pictures in your heads. I felt like an idiot lol

Some day I'm gonna be a master artist trust me I'm gonna make it guys.

>>3615699
I can think in concepts only. If you tell me pink elephant I do not imagine anything no matter how hard I try. However I know what an elephant is conceptually. I might start thinking about what facts I know about elephants at best. I know what the color pink is. Just no imagining. Only recognizing things.

However I could google an elephant and figure out what forms it's made of, use visual measuring to figure out their proportions, reconstruct the elephant in perspective with the pose I want, use perspective to find my light source and shadows, and then use knowledge of how value and color work to paint it pink.

When I sketch something I don't know what I'm doing when I start, I just scribble around and follow the forms and gesture until I find something that's fun. I can do realism just fine though, never had issue with that, it's just boring subjects. I can build muscle memory for technique...

I think that's probably more work than most of you guys would have to put into stuff like that, though.

[Anonymous No.3615732]

>>3615696
It's a part of your brain that can range from non-funtioning (no visualization, no dreams) to semi-functioning (no / limited visualization, limited dreams) to insane mode (visualization more real than real life, vivid lucid dreams every night, rotate objects 360 degrees and feel like you can touch them). You can try developing it, depends on how bad it is for you.

Grind fundies and they'll lead the way to your end goal. It's a rough path ahead of us, anon. You have to get the hang of all of them and then if you're creative with it you can figure out how to do anything. You're probably going to go through concept artist process for imagination stuff more than anything though.

I downloaded the book The Skillful Huntsman and it gives some good insight on the process. You just doodle a whole lot of variations of something and pick what silhouette looks good. Then after that you can play with different colors and designs on things it's really fun and I think it accomplishes basically what people do in their heads. Just slower. But hell the result is gonna be so good every time dude

[Anonymous No.3615742]

>>3615725
I'm not sure if this can be applied to your case but in meditation, when one has trouble visualizing with the mind, it's advised to visualize through other senses of the body.
Let's say meditate by visualizing yourself in a beach. Instead of imagining a beach, try thinking of what it feels like to be in a beach, what it smells like, the sound of the waves and the feeling of sand on your feet. Think of what emotions you can evoke when you're on a beach, stuff like that. I figured you can apply these things when you're about to do some creative work

[Anonymous No.3615747]

>>3615563
The only dreams I remember are scary. Lots of people but nobody has a face. Everything is very distorted and blurred out, there is no flying only real world physics and rules, It's like living in hitler's paintings every night :D

>>3615638
That sounds fucking cool!!

[Anonymous No.3615751]

>>3615742
Everything you listed except emotions is beyond my reach. No voluntary conjuration of senses of any kind. Meditation for me is just breathing exercises and trying to think about absolutely nothing. Pretty boring :(

[Anonymous No.3615761]

>>3615717
No lollygagin

[Anonymous No.3615768]

>>3615751
Oh I just realized you mean emotions linked to things. Like itching when you hear someone talk about lice? I thought you meant can I feel emotions lmao I'm a retarded.

No the thought of a beach brings nothing to my mind. Just thinking about what elements make a beach and what things live there and stuff. Purely concepts bro.

[Anonymous No.3616160]

>>3615526
>>3615535

[Anonymous No.3616198]

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7127456/?ref_=ttfc_fc_tt Midway through the book "Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency" is a magazine article written by the protagonist. It's called something like "Music from visualization". It's like 5 pages long and elegantly plays with the shapes. Douglas Adams was a real one

[Anonymous No.3616220]

>>3616160
I have tried multiple times they just made me feel a little anxious and sick to my stomach. Nothing cool happened and it was a waste on me.

Maybe it has to be something stronger lol

[Anonymous No.3616235]

>>3615535
I'm gonna tell you what no one else wants to, go away no imagination anon you will never do anything worthwhile artistically I'm tired of you constantly asking if their is any hope for you, there is not any pursue other crafts

[Anonymous No.3616296]

>>3616235
You're just threatened because we have to do fundies to make it and will surpass you in sheer skill. :) Stay mad bro.

[Anonymous No.3616354]

A literal "huh?"