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Anonymous Wed Sep 19 17:24:16 2018 No.3608953 [Reply] [Original]

Is he a master?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 19 17:31:26 2018 No.3608958 >>3608953 He's the best on nma

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 19 17:33:39 2018 No.3608960 >>3608958 Best artist, worst instructor. Sailboat head ass nigga

Anonymous Wed Sep 19 17:51:28 2018 No.3608973

>>3608960
So I'm not the only one who thinks he sucks at teaching? It's 80% him blabbing and writing and when he goes to demo it just goes over my head. And I can't get his sailboat meme.

Is there ANYONE else who can teach good head construction? I don't mind paying top dollar.

Anonymous Wed Sep 19 17:53:21 2018 No.3608977

>>3608973
Also the ones that I'm aware of is
-scott eaton
-watts atelier
-loomis
-youtube bootleg watered down "teachers" rehashing watts teachings
-youtube bootleg watered down "teachers" rehashing loomis
-random cgma head construction w/ christian nacorda

Anyone else?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 19 17:56:26 2018 No.3608979 >>3608977 oh and there is https://courses.svslearn.com/courses/dynamic-expression-drawing-heads-and-hands and then that Japanese man from those books floating around. Share some more sources, anons.

Anonymous Wed Sep 19 18:25:10 2018 No.3609004
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>>3608973
>>3608977
>>3608979

nigga how many sources do you need? If you don't mind paying sign up for an online course where you can get feedback from the teacher. Sounds like you need someone to force your faggoty ass to do some actual work instead of just cruising for courses online.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 19 19:19:32 2018 No.3609059 >>3608960 Don't diss the sailboat motherfucker.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 19 19:22:15 2018 No.3609062 >>3608960 >>3608973 Sailboat is fine you just have to have an open angle at the two main gesture lines.

Anonymous Wed Sep 19 19:27:26 2018 No.3609068

>>3609004
I do need someone to show my faggot ass but nobody is offering up a good course online with feedback besides the one on CGMA and God I hate that fucking faggot Nacorda can't teach a lick of dick. Like how is that possible? I'm begging to fork over $1k to a good instructor.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 19 19:53:43 2018 No.3609089 File: 383 KB, 1600x1199, You tell me.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3608953

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 19 20:03:31 2018 No.3609097 >>3609089 I don't like that very much

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 19 20:17:29 2018 No.3609109 >>3609097 ngmi

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 19 20:42:32 2018 No.3609127 >>3609109 can you see anything wrong with it?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 19 20:51:45 2018 No.3609137 File: 62 KB, 645x729, 1525732453779.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3609127 here we go

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 19 20:54:37 2018 No.3609140 >>3609137 what, I've never been down this road before.

Anonymous Wed Sep 19 21:53:23 2018 No.3609189
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>>3609062

My teacher explained the sailboat shape to me and now it makes miles more sense. Huston's chadness just goes over my head is all--but now I can go through his videos without feeling stupid!!

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 20 00:07:35 2018 No.3609295 >>3608953 I'm sure he is a fine artist his figure course was so dry, vague and lack instruction

Anonymous Thu Sep 20 00:57:59 2018 No.3609332
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>>3608973
>>3608977
>>3609004
This was just uploaded today by the drawing database. 5 hours of in depth analysis about constructing the head/neck.

I guess you can watch a little of it and see if it works for you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNrPYwysN8k

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 20 01:06:29 2018 No.3609338 >>3609189 Please explain to me what your teacher explained to you.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 20 01:59:44 2018 No.3609394 >>3608953 He’s alright but he wastes his talents drawing homos in dimly lit alleys. It’s a shame he doesn’t do anime

Anonymous Thu Sep 20 06:47:31 2018 No.3609536

>>3609332
Wow, thank you! I'll watch later.
>>3609338

He explained to me how to measure the exact degree with the loomis ball so you know how to actually spin the ball rather than randomly cutting the sides away like a tard. It's like a math problem of sorts though I still have to review what he said to make it 100% make sense in my own words.

So there are 2 to 3 ways to lay in the head in space and the 2nd way is combining the 2 ovoid shapes (huston) but then you need to figure out where are the edges which confused me. You map it out from a box and repeat the shape over like you're using mechanical technique (think robertson) and thats where the sailboat shape can be used to get the right sway back of the cranium. So yes the sailboat shape is Gods tool but I just need to practice what he said more before I say any more.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 20 06:59:24 2018 No.3609543 >>3608960 no best artist is ruan jia dumbass

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 20 06:59:41 2018 No.3609544 >>3608953 hell yeah

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 20 07:25:45 2018 No.3609556 >>3608953 yes, he's literally giving as lesson in that picture.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 20 11:02:28 2018 No.3609707 >>3608953 A master of my heart.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 20 11:22:42 2018 No.3609720 >>3608960 Imagine being such a brainlet that you can't follow the sailboat technique

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 20 12:08:35 2018 No.3609756 >>3609720 Post your sailboats.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 20 12:23:03 2018 No.3609776 >>3608960 >>3608973 The sailboat head is awesome because the cranium isn't a sphere to begin with. Even vilppu doesn't like the loomis head.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 20 12:26:30 2018 No.3609782 >>3609776 The sphere is still objectively a good place to start.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 20 12:44:01 2018 No.3609796 >>3609782 Sure it's just that after doing a lot of head in 3/4 and sideview the loomis head ends up looking like a sailboat anyways so I just skip drawing the ball.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 20 14:44:51 2018 No.3609883 wtf is the sailboat technique? google brings up nothing

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 20 15:30:08 2018 No.3609943 >>3609883 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T7cDY7YDsg

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 20 15:49:30 2018 No.3609970 >>3609943 okay will watch thanks

Anonymous Thu Sep 20 18:57:09 2018 No.3610150

>>3609943
I watched this the other day. I don't get the problem people have with how he teaches. He's clear, thorough, and repeats the shit that needs to be repeated. I like the way he teaches, but I guess teaching is like everything else. It connects with some people, and doesn't connect with others.

Anonymous Thu Sep 20 19:12:50 2018 No.3610159

>>3610150
I think because so many people trying to learn aren't learners. They're looking for one quick and easy shortcut instead of all the perspiration that goes in to actually accomplishing something. Learning and mastery of concepts is done through repetition and application. Shitters just want the final application.

Anonymous Thu Sep 20 19:20:22 2018 No.3610164

>>3610159

Not true. Shut your mouth. It infuriates me when I don't know the long way around something. Some teachers click with specific individuals learning style.

Some like teachers who are "hip" and "cool" and try to be on the level of a youngster in explanation but don't go too in depth to either avoid complexity or they themselves don't know the complex issues.

Some like teachers who go straight into explanation without cookie cutting anything. They want that A-list teacher who just demos nonstop. Some like teachers who talk a lot, adding adages to their teaching.

And so on....there are many styles. Not all fit 1 person.

Anonymous Thu Sep 20 19:20:28 2018 No.3610165

>>3610150
I like how he teaches too. Also I personally like the triangle head thing because when I'm doing gesture it's a lot easier to see what angle the face is sitting at rather than on a circle which is like babby's first manga book kinda shit.
Definitely didn't click with some of my classmates but I like the guy.

>>3610159
lmao doesn't everyone? But sadly that's not how things work.

Anonymous Thu Sep 20 19:38:01 2018 No.3610188

>>3610165
I really like how he emphasizes room for error and all too. Like it's not all "you have to make the circle or egg exactly this size". If you go a bit over or under, he says that's okay, and you can usually work with it. I think that's a good lesson for beginners, because beginners sort of go gung ho into it, wanting to be as precise and accurate as possible. Of course, that could be one of the things people dislike about him too. Some people like a more technical and precise style of teaching I suppose.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 20 20:42:21 2018 No.3610244 >>3610150 Uncle Steve is like a kindly wizard dispensing visual philosophy but some people just want the "how" not the "why".

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 20 20:43:45 2018 No.3610247 >>3610244 >ffs just tell me how to shoot a fireball

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 20 23:18:05 2018 No.3610359 >>3608977 >no vilppu he's better than watts imo.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 21 03:23:21 2018 No.3610503 >>3610359 >vlippu That man can put me to sleep like nothing else. Love the guy's work but holy shit it's like he's falling asleep while he's talking.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 21 03:36:17 2018 No.3610508 >>3610244 Absolutely. I really enjoy the way Steve talks. He breaks and forms synapses in your brain the way he words things.

Anonymous Fri Sep 21 07:25:14 2018 No.3610747

>>3608973
I combined Steve Hustons long lectures with Chris Legaspi's faster paced ones and with a lot of practice, of course, started to get a lot better.

Also bargue plates (no meme) and actually printing out reference pictures and taping them next to my drawing makes it easier. Also Dorian Iten's measurements tutorials.

Strictly speaking, man there's a lot to learn and research when learning to draw properly..

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 21 11:13:01 2018 No.3610918 >>3610747 I just realized I screen captured a head lecture I payed for a year ago and completely forgotten about it. Man do I have amnesia.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 21 11:40:45 2018 No.3610933 File: 256 KB, 500x375, 1518319342225.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3608960 I used to have trouble with heads but then I started sail boating and it clicked with me. I like sailboat head.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 22 03:55:58 2018 No.3611739 Best living art teacher there is. Alpha.

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