/beg/ - Beginner Thread

[Anonymous No.3597223]

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the Drawthread with our fundamental exercises.

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, do not give up, make someone proud.

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS:

#1)
>screenshot the image and post that instead

#2)
>change camera capture settings to something smaller

#3)
>send to computer and resize in MSPaint

→ →
There's a new (and cleaner) sticky in town! You can see it at:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

TRY TO BE MORE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK - many studies are left unreplied, which is a bit sad and can be quite demotivating for the people that try their best to improve, but are left directionless.

Just remember: "Success is no accident. It is hard work, perseverance, learning, studying, sacrifice and most of all, love of what you are doing or learning to do."

[Anonymous No.3597272]

crits pls

[Anonymous No.3597312]

>>3597272
Is this as far as you'll finish it?

[Anonymous No.3597586]

can I get better by copying other people's work and deconstructing it just to construct it again?

[Anonymous No.3597602]

>>3597272
left foot needs a bit of work

[Anonymous No.3597604]

>>3597586
yes because when you deconstruct aka backwards engineer anything you learn the technical bits a lot better. you wont really get milage in drawing per se, but your rendering/color/lighting will improve drastically

[Anonymous No.3597658]

[Anonymous No.3597671]

>>3597658
Posted this so there's a reference. Will I really get better at this if I keep trying without a formal teacher? I would really like to get good at this, and despite practicing the fundamentals I haven't drawn that much (until now). This drawing is shit and I don't know if I'm gonna improve.

[Anonymous No.3597685]

[Anonymous No.3597697]

Is this a good torso? . and tips for drawing torsos, I've been using the reilly method But I'm still not sure.

[Anonymous No.3597756]

eh

[Anonymous No.3597772]

I can tell the perspective on her right shoulder is fucked up, also her right hand could use a bit more work. Looking for anything else that's an obvious error or for something I should do next time to improve upon

[Anonymous No.3597796]

Manikins do not help me at all.....

[Anonymous No.3597815]

>>3597671
>Will I really get better at this if I keep trying without a formal teacher?
You're such a beginner, you wouldn't get any use out of a formal teacher.
Kinda like a couch-potato buying a gym membership and hiring a personal trainer without being able to do a single sit-up first.
Read "drawing on the right side of the brain" ignore the pseudo-scientific bullshit and focus on the excercises, also keep drawing a lot to develope your judgement and hand-eye coordination.

[Anonymous No.3597821]

>>3597671

[Anonymous No.3597824]

First time using a mouse.

[Anonymous No.3597825]

>>3597824
is she an astronaut

[Anonymous No.3597826]

>>3597824
Then 2nd one

[Anonymous No.3597829]

>>3597825
I dunno maybe

[Anonymous No.3597835]

what started as a study of bio mechanics, ended up being something pokemon related

[Anonymous No.3597842]

>>3597835
ive never read the book before; but the "old guy faces" are pretty funny

[Anonymous No.3597846]

>>3597842
read loomis then. you might get better.

[Anonymous No.3597856]

>>3597846
w-will it make my shit-tier lolis not-so-shit tier?

[Anonymous No.3597867]

>>3597856
definitely!

what are you doing now to improve?

[Anonymous No.3597871]

>>3597867
>focusing heavily on things im lacking on
proportion
difficult angles
and adding in a secondary character
i.e. anatomy + foreshortening

[Anonymous No.3597872]

my biggest problem is proportions
Like I know how Pikachu looks and I can have a picture of Pikachu right in front of me, but no matter what, I'll always make the head or ears or tail or whatever way bigger or smaller than it is

[Anonymous No.3597874]

>>3597872
to combat this, i draw out an xyz coordinate chart so i can say "ok arm goes about there and gets bigger...etc.

[Anonymous No.3597877]

>>3597874
I'd just end up putting te xyz coordinates in the wrong place

[Anonymous No.3597885]

First ever attempt at drawing anime. Is it potato?

[Anonymous No.3597886]

drawing some skulls and some rocks

[Anonymous No.3597890]

>>3597872
let's see your pikachu

[Anonymous No.3597901]

>>3597890
'twas just an example, i haven't really drawn pikachu

[Anonymous No.3597925]

>>3597901
draw a pikachu and post it.

[Anonymous No.3597927]

>>3597925
okay later because I'm on the phone right now

[Anonymous No.3597986]

i forgot that tenkuu shinpan has been huge factor in my taste in action.

[Anonymous No.3597996]

>>3597925

[Anonymous No.3598002]

>>3597996
better than 99% of /ic/'s current state. bless your heart.

[Anonymous No.3598009]

>>3598002
thanks for your patience in waiting

[Anonymous No.3598010]

>>3597996
im not certain if this is the fullest extent of your effort.

[Anonymous No.3598014]

>>3598010
'tis

[Anonymous No.3598017]

>>3597996
it's cute in it's own way. like a classic chubby pikachu

[Anonymous No.3598032]

>>3598017
attempted a self portrait as well because Draw on the Left Side of your Brain told me to, but got discouraged

[Anonymous No.3598053]

>>3597996
>Black beady eyes
>deform skull
>vertical insect mouth
It's unsettling.

[Anonymous No.3598056]

>>3598032
Draw this.

[Anonymous No.3598062]

>>3598056
perspective, I know
the old man faces made me frustrated in Loomis, so now I'm reading the right side of the brain book. The exercises are more fun but damn its making me realize I'm shit

[Anonymous No.3598073]

>>3598062
You don't need to know perspective to draw this.

[Anonymous No.3598104]

[Anonymous No.3598115]

So I read Loomis and learned how you put the head together and tried using that technique to recreate an image I like and it worked, I finally see how the magic is done. How did I do?

[Anonymous No.3598119]

>>3598115
to make it simple, try the pencil test. line your pencil up with their eyes.

for a more dramatic effect, reverse the image (flip it)

[Anonymous No.3598152]

>>3597685
That's class.

[Anonymous No.3598221]

What do people mean by being mindful?

[Anonymous No.3598242]

>>3597223
what is my fucking problem?
how i can improve my stroke and shadowing?
wich video, wich book, wich exercice?
i'm absolutely lost, please help me.

[Anonymous No.3598265]

>>3597772
The face is too long and the mouth being that low in comparison to the nose makes it look like they have fetal alcohol syndrome. On top of that, the grain of the hair should be perpendicular to the parted part in the middle. The handle on the Mosin is too short and the stock is too wide, the gun looks like it's at a straight on angle but despite that, you can still see the hole in the barrel for some reason? also, in general, put more detail into your work, parts of this especially the dress come off as looking a bit lazy.

[Anonymous No.3598266]

>>3597756
There's a lot of blank space on the face and it feels like a waste just to represent the mouth and nose with just two lines, be more detailed with it.
Overall this is just really basic, there's not really a lot to comment on, if you could post a more finished piece there would be a lot more attention on this.

[Anonymous No.3598269]

>>3597223
I don't know what I'm doing with the coloring please help, also general critiques

[Anonymous No.3598270]

>>3598115
For a first try pretty good, there's some issues like the eyes not being quite at the same angle and just a little too high, this also goes for the ear too.

[Anonymous No.3598273]

>>3598242
please respond

[Anonymous No.3598274]

I have never drawn a good drawing in my life, but I want to make good illustrations for scientific publications, for teaching etc..
Any books/resources that could help me get started would be great.
with love /g/

[Anonymous No.3598284]

>>3598274

[Anonymous No.3598287]

>>3598284
But I want to create scientific illustrations , not manga.

[Anonymous No.3598290]

>>3598242
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nw-piPn9d6Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMC0Cx3Uk84

[Anonymous No.3598291]

>>3598274
What do you mean by scientific illustrations? could you find an example

[Anonymous No.3598295]

>>3598274
https://archive.org/details/sketchingrenderi00guptuoft

[Anonymous No.3598296]

>>3598287
is this good?
not mine by the way

[Anonymous No.3598299]

>>3598284
How to draw woefully unappealing heads from "Katy" jew, from scholastic.

[Anonymous No.3598301]

>>3598296
This is HOT.

[Anonymous No.3598302]

>>3598291
Something like this http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v529/n7587/carousel/nature16961-f1.jpg

[Anonymous No.3598303]

>>3598284
does the science community accept illustrations in mango style?

[Anonymous No.3598305]

>>3598296

[Anonymous No.3598307]

>>3598296
This is pretty good overall, even without the rendering I'd say it's a pretty solid drawing it's not perfect of course, the torso's too long the head is placed weirdly on the neck and the abs aren't properly sized.

[Anonymous No.3598315]

>>3597223
>tfw picture in /beg/ thread is way better than my complete pics.

Like fuck, if thats beg then I am not fucking making it.

[Anonymous No.3598316]

>>3598315
don't worry anon, nobody on /ic/ ever makes it

[Anonymous No.3598320]

>>3598315
Don't take these "beginner" threads seriously because they are troll threads that he starts so when people post what they are doing in the beginning, he thinks it's funny to shoot you down in the hopes of destroying peoples efforts in getting good at drawing.

[Anonymous No.3598321]

>>3598316
not sure if /ic/ is aware how mentally ill the whole 'making it' shit sounds

[Anonymous No.3598330]

How do I into proper skin coloring?

[Anonymous No.3598336]

>>3598266
im really looking for a 'less is more' style

[Anonymous No.3598338]

is using a reference standard practice?

[Anonymous No.3598339]

>>3598336
To have less is more, your less needs to make up for it, this is just bland and boring

[Anonymous No.3598347]

>>3597223
I'm trying to improve my art skills. I'm trying to become a successful indie game dev. Here's some concept art I drew for one of my games. Any advice on how to go about coloring it? I'm using photoshop, but I'm open to suggestions/tutorials for other software.

[Anonymous No.3598357]

>>3598347
did you trace parts of this?

[Anonymous No.3598358]

>>3598357
yes, the hands and feet

[Anonymous No.3598363]

>>3597272
>hiding your football in your tricep

next level strats

[Anonymous No.3598364]

>>3598358
don't do that, it doesn't actually help you learn the structure of it, you need to reference it and redraw it to understand what it's actually doing. can I see your sketch layer?

[Anonymous No.3598368]

I did this yesterday, my friends say it looks good but I want unbiased opinion, I started drawing a couple of days ago

[Anonymous No.3598369]

>>3598368
looks good

[Anonymous No.3598371]

>>3598368
fantastic job mod on to int threads

[Anonymous No.3598374]

>>3598369
>>3598371
I make one mistake and everyone is at my throat.. thanks..
Because you never make mistakes, yeah right

>>3598368
If everything worked right I posted it this time

[Anonymous No.3598376]

>>3598364
it may not be the best way to learn to draw. but i need fast results. want to start shipping games within a year. I don't have a huge budget to hire talented artists so I'm pretty much doing everything myself. Art is only half the battle. then there's coding and marketing, not to mention the actual game design.

What I really need is advice on how to go about coloring.

[Anonymous No.3598377]

>>3598374
cant tell if youre joking but your drawing is shit.

[Anonymous No.3598379]

>>3598338
hard yes
just listen to podcasts

[Anonymous No.3598398]

>>3598377
You're a bit "special" aren't you..
Just to make it clear for your bright mind:
Yes, I was joking

[Anonymous No.3598407]

>>3598374
You need to work on your lines, they're very messy, also there isn't a lot of detail and there isn't much going on compositionally so there's not anything to distract from it. There's very minimal shading and it doesn't look very three dimensional.

[Anonymous No.3598410]

>>3598374
Looks like poor attempt in tracing.

[Anonymous No.3598432]

>>3598376
Well, your expectations are unrealistic, and it's going to look like shit if you don't learn it legitimately you can tell because your art looks like shit. The only thing you're really going to be able to do is something simplistic if you don't want your art to look god awful

[Anonymous No.3598438]

>>3598376
>want to start shipping games within a year.
You should either consider hiring people, asking actually capable friend for help or move your expectations for another 5 years minimum.

[Anonymous No.3598444]

>>3598432
>>3598438
fucking useless. 4chan is only good for the memes. don't worry, i'll post here again from my private island once i've made billions.

[Anonymous No.3598445]

>>3598444
checked and baited

[Anonymous No.3598468]

I bought a course on udemy, but I thought the skeleton that they teach it's super simple, so I decide to study on my own with references.
Any thoughts on this?

[Anonymous No.3598469]

>>3598468
what's the goal, are you trying to draw skellys or are you trying to learn anatomy

[Anonymous No.3598473]

>>3598444
Dude.
These threads are troll threads, wanna know how to tell if they are or not?
Constructive criticism.

When people are legitimately giving advice or critique, they don't go around saying how much of failure you are or how "shit" "crap" etc the person is.
They tell you how to improve instead of saying all that.

This guy starts these threads every time the last comes to it's end so he can pretend to be multiple people pretending to be hating on any practice drawings being posted to stop you from continuing to get better at drawing.

If someone is not giving constructive criticism then there is no point even taking on board what they are saying because they are only doing it to make you give up.

[Anonymous No.3598474]

>>3598468
It's a skeleton alright.

[Anonymous No.3598478]

>>3598468
congratulations, have a pat on the back kid

????

go study and draw

[Anonymous No.3598484]

>>3598469
It's a course on human anatomy.
It's my first skeleton, so I wanted to know if I'm doing it right.
>>3598478
Thanks

[Anonymous No.3598491]

>>3598484
so here's the thing, drawing a detailed skelly is pointless, unless you want to draw skellys or zombies with exposed skellys

[Anonymous No.3598493]

>>3597697
Seems a little too flat: try working on volume a bit more.

[Anonymous No.3598495]

>>3598491
Yeah, I thought about this.
But I want to focus on characters, so I saw this as an opportunity to learn proper skeleton.
Next step is improving on anatomy and gesture as well.

[Anonymous No.3598496]

>>3598495
You are on the correct path, don't listen to the trolls I'm just after pointing out what they do to put you off from bettering your skills here>>3598473

[Anonymous No.3598500]

>>3598495
you don't need to learn detailed skeletons to draw good figues, you're going to be covering them in meat and skin, unless your goal directly involves in visible skeletons, that level of detail is literally pointless

[Anonymous No.3598502]

>>3598500
>literally pointless
other than satisfying genuine artistic curiosity?
not everyone subscribes to the min/max git gud thinking that doesn't even provide results.

[Anonymous No.3598505]

>>3598502
dude has a fucking goal, it's like saying you're trying to get to the train station but your curiosity led to you into the forrest and once you arrive on the mountain top you ask "so am I closer to the train station?"

[Anonymous No.3598508]

>>3598502
>genuine artistic curiosity
gmi.

[Anonymous No.3598512]

>>3598505
Nigga who cares about the train station you're on a freaking mountain!

[Anonymous No.3598513]

>>3598512
this person shades his stick figures

[Anonymous No.3598514]

>>3598513
>this person shades his stick figures
>not rendering stick figures
kys

[Anonymous No.3598515]

>>3598513
At least I got a pretty good view from up here.

[Anonymous No.3598516]

>>3598515
yeah, a good view on how much time you wasted getting distracted

[Anonymous No.3598517]

>>3598513
>shading

[Anonymous No.3598520]

>>3598516
You sound like a glass half empty kinda guy.

[Anonymous No.3598521]

>>3598505
But from the top of the mountain, maybe you could see the train station and plan your path from there.

[Anonymous No.3598524]

>>3598521
Exactly! And maybe you've learnt a thing or two going up the mountain which may come in handy later.

[Anonymous No.3598525]

i'm trying to get better at shading

[Anonymous No.3598526]

>>3598505
yeah i ignored that part. because basically nobody i know has ever reached specific goals in art and succeeded. everybodys better off immediately drawing the one thing theyre interested in any given moment. anon might have broken down his logic but i dont believe any of it. he just wanted to draw a skeleton, and he did. words words words words words vs. actual concrete drawing, i buy the drawing

[Anonymous No.3598529]

>>3598525
Study something called hatching. You'll benefit enormously from it.

[Anonymous No.3598530]

>>3598526
There is as many ways to learn art as there is and has been artists in the world.

[Anonymous No.3598531]

>>3598529
thanks for that advice! i will.

by the way, how's my character design? here's another i did the other day

[Anonymous No.3598544]

I'm not satisfied with the hand, and I have to fix the umbrella. What else can I do?

[Anonymous No.3598592]

[Anonymous No.3598593]

drew some more old people, feel like I fucked up the proportions of a lot of them

also on a side note, I can't stop playing with my eraser

[Anonymous No.3598599]

“Line of action” website is addicting, 3 minutes to sketch a rough pose is good practice.

[Anonymous No.3598602]

>>3598599
More practice

[Anonymous No.3598614]

to that pikachu guy. this is what i meant by using an xyz axis. bad example since im a novice but it acts like a "guide" as to show what line goes in what direction

[Anonymous No.3598622]

critique plz

[Anonymous No.3598624]

>>3598622
here
>>3597834

[Anonymous No.3598627]

sry wrong size

[Anonymous No.3598629]

>>3598627
looks p good but the bottom jaw angle looks a little wonky.

[Anonymous No.3598653]

Goddamn I hate drawing. I keep trying and failing and trying and failing and trying and failing like a fucking retard

[Anonymous No.3598661]

>>3598653
stop pretending drawing is something easy. try to have fun and prepare to fail a lot. you're human like the rest of us.

[Anonymous No.3598663]

>>3598661
I've been trying for months and there's been no progress. How the fuck can I have fun when everything looks like an ugly abortion?

[Anonymous No.3598666]

>>3598653
If you can’t live without making art then keep going, if you couldn’t care less if you never draw again then quit.

[Anonymous No.3598672]

>>3598315
OP here
i usually pick what seems to be the best picture in the thread (technical wise)

sometimes really good people who aren't /beg/ come and post here
so i take their picture

don't feel discourage.
it takes time to improve, and the most important thing is to keep doing it daily

[Anonymous No.3598673]

Crit please. What areas should I focus on?

[Anonymous No.3598678]

>>3598663
Maybe learn fucking fundamentals? If you have to have everything perfect put paper above the screen and trace it, you don't even have to use brain for anything but to follow the line.

Drawing does not mean magically putting shit from your head on the paper, but understanding it's shape, perspective, lighting, perception, size, place, structure... Many of the people that are actually good and leave good drawing are not masters in many of those areas, but they keep trying, they know they will fail, they know how to take failure, they failed more times than you tried, but they keep going in the infinite pursuit of perfection.

What even is your end goal? To open a patreon and earn thousands of dollars drawing porn? It may sound nice but you are going to have to put in the effort, even if you cut corners and don't want to learn anatomy, proportions and perspective, you have to put a lot of effort into hiding the lack of fundamentals.

So if you are not ready to put in the consecutive effort, stop.

[Anonymous No.3598681]

>>3598663
What have you been trying? How have you been trying to improve?

[Anonymous No.3598686]

>>3598681
I've read through keys to drawing and did the exercises and now I'm trying to apply that to portrait drawing studies but it's like I'm completely retarded and don't remember how to do anything.

[Anonymous No.3598688]

>>3598673
i think focus on your lines. you got some decent lines in the hatching and stuff but the outer line gets kinda hairy and jagged around his shoulder and arm. kinda too much contrast and takes the eyes away from the focal point- the face.

[Anonymous No.3598690]

H-how to find my own style? I used to like simplified manga style, but the more I think of it, the more I like semi-realistic art (I went from Yoshiyuki Sadamoto > Kentaro Miura > Takehiko Inoue).

I have to confess that I stopped drawing many years ago, and now I want to recover this habit.

[Anonymous No.3598701]

>>3598672
oh lovely refs, thanks.

[Anonymous No.3598702]

>>3598690
Make a list of the artists that you like in different aspects (line art, portrait, value, color, composition etc.), than make studies e reflect on those to develop something unique, that is a junction of all of them

[Anonymous No.3598703]

>>3597223
Idk how eyebrows work on face
how do i fix the face?
Please, i've been trying to figure this out for some time.

[Anonymous No.3598721]

is it useful for a beginner to watch artists draw, or is that just lazy and an excuse to not practice

[Anonymous No.3598725]

>>3598721
i honestly feel it an excuse to not practice. i do it all the time and don't get better. so im talking from experience here.

[Anonymous No.3598727]

>>3598725
>i do it all the time
I mean combining it with practice as well though

[Anonymous No.3598730]

can I just jump into figure drawing for all its worth by loomis?
or is there something I must do before hand, just finished fun with a pencil

[Anonymous No.3598738]

>>3598525
>>3598531
both these designs are pretty neat if they're oc

[Anonymous No.3598745]

>>3598727
what do you mean like watch it and then draw? or drawing while watching? if the 1st one then ya it'll def help. cause you are building up visual library and maybe can do some of their techniques since you like their art. if 2nd one then no cause you half assing both. not putting attention to your own work or to their process.

But in the end of the day just draw ffs

[Anonymous No.3598758]

Practiced some Loomis today, copied these from head and hands

[Anonymous No.3598760]

[Anonymous No.3598762]

>>3598760

[Anonymous No.3598763]

>>3598762

[Anonymous No.3598764]

>>3598763

[Anonymous No.3598769]

>>3598764
ARMaDILLOS!1

[Anonymous No.3598783]

>>3598703
I'm using that as a reaction image now, it has a very nice aura.
I don't think there's any advice I can give you, you seem to understand the process more than me.
I think it looks nice, even if it needs cleaned up

[Anonymous No.3598784]

Hi, this is a fan made stand from Jojo I made for a contest a few weeks ago, can I get some crits pls ?

[Anonymous No.3598788]

>>3598544
jesus, this is considered /beg/?

[Anonymous No.3598800]

>>3598738
They are oc. All of my designs are oc. Thanks btw!

[Anonymous No.3598826]

>>3598783
lol
thanks man that means a lot
i didnt even think it would reach the level of reaction

[Anonymous No.3598832]

>>3598760
>>3598762
>>3598763
conveying movement really well! if you can keep that while adding more complex 3d form you'll do great

[Anonymous No.3598840]

>>3598703

learn perspective and pick any head construction method you prefer. figure out the axis of the sideplane of the head and then draw accordingly to perspective, you should be able to see the underside of his nose if the position of his eyebrows are like that

[Anonymous No.3598870]

let me have it

[Anonymous No.3598878]

>>3598840
nice
I never thought of it like that.Do you have any tips ,vids or tutorials you find helpful for figuring out the axis?

[Anonymous No.3598883]

>>3598878

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EPNYWeEf1U&t=4s

[Anonymous No.3598895]

>>3598376
Anon, hope you are still here.
Have a blog?
I am not much above /beg/ but I see potential in those sketches.
I colored that in Inkscape.using bucket fill tool. Took me about 15 minutes.

[Anonymous No.3598908]

I'm currently only able to use a mouse for digital art but any tips would be appreciated

[Anonymous No.3598919]

>>3598908
Honestly, don't bother with a mouse. Anything you do with it will never live up to something with a drawpad.
Use paper and pencil, then take a picture/scan it if you want to use digital tools.
Obviously your line work is fucked by the mouse, but you still managed to get a nice emotion out of the guys face; I can tell he's fucking done with whatever's going on.

[Anonymous No.3598923]

>>3598908

loomis

[Anonymous No.3598965]

>>3597886
GMI anon

[Anonymous No.3598976]

is this better than the one i posted like three weeks ago? i changed the position of the shoulder, changed the angle of the arm/hand, and refined the hands a bit. i checked the pose on design doll, it checks out overall.

[Anonymous No.3599012]

>>3598976
what is the one you posted 3 weeks ago

[Anonymous No.3599024]

>>3599012
>>3595480

[Anonymous No.3599044]

>>3599024
i'll go with what the other anon said. the hand is the blemish. i recommend trying to draw a whole figure vs a portrait. unless portraits are what you're aiming for.

[Anonymous No.3599064]

>>3599044
soo i didnt fix the hand and arm?

[Anonymous No.3599067]

>>3599064
non; it looks like you tried to add depth, but u missed "it". as in, u didnt portray the finger joints correctly

[Anonymous No.3599068]

>>3598758
Your 3rds are unequal.

[Anonymous No.3599074]

>>3599067
i see. i know i suck at hands. ill just paint and hope i can salvge the hands a bit and study hands more

[Anonymous No.3599080]

>>3599074
>i know i suck at hands.
I think the problem lies deeper.

[Anonymous No.3599095]

>>3599080
like ballsdeep?

[Anonymous No.3599096]

hows my loli attempt # 638?

[Anonymous No.3599103]

>>3597671
i like it because it's so bad. it has a charm lmfao

[Anonymous No.3599109]

I'm not entirely sure how to phrase this. I wanna draw like the art on the right, to the point where I can draw like that every time, reasoning being that I feel like I have no motive to do anything but attempt to copy things exactly from reference and study which wears me down and I feel like if I could draw in-between all the referenced drawing and studying I'd get in a lot of consistency.

The drawing is a one-off tumblr request, their other art seems entirely different and I don't even follow the artist so I can't really spam copy their drawings to get an idea of it that way.

If any of that makes sense, can someone help me?

[Anonymous No.3599113]

>>3599109
Trace it and call it a day.

[Anonymous No.3599114]

>>3599109
studying the anatomy and proportion of real people will help a ton.

i thought for a while i didn't have the motivation to do all those boring studies either, but i found out i do, my desire to draw stylized things consistently and well is. after a while you learn to appreciate and enjoy it too!

[Anonymous No.3599121]

I feel like I need order and direction to my practice time. I've figure I finish Loomis, I've only done up to page 20 or so. But I also find myself not knowing what to do for fun that will help me progress. Art block hasn't set in, I have the motivation but I lack inspiration, any tips or i don't know, practice routines?

pic related is the only thing from today I did that I liked, I think maybe I should go back to pencil and paper for a while see if that helps

[Anonymous No.3599126]

>>3599121
Where do you want to be? What do you want to draw?

[Anonymous No.3599143]

>>3599126
I want to be well rounded, but mostly focus on stuff that could help me make a webcomic or something one day that doesn't look like ass. I tried writefagging before but I feel like I have more skill for drawfagging (even if rn its shit).

I'm a weeb with a boner with everything between 1975 and 1999 but I also enjoy a lot of /co/ stuff. I know that to get to the point where I can draw competently in style similar to those I need to focus a lot on real life stuff. Even if it takes 5-10 years I'm ok with that, I just feel like right now I'm not being productive with my practice time. I also feel that since I lack someone that not only critiques my work, but points me in the right direction (which is a big part of why I'm browsing /ic/ more) I stunt my progress.

in short, I want to get to the point where I can draw highly stylized stuff reminiscent of late 70s to late 90s anime and also draw objects and characters that I like as well as my own original creations.

[Anonymous No.3599155]

>>3598976
Maybe something like this? just you put wrinkles on the thumb when we should be looking at the underside of the thumb not the top knuckly part.

[Anonymous No.3599171]

>>3599109
did it in 2 minutes maybe it helps i dono.

for this art style just identify big shapes and keep at it till you get it down. you dont really need anatomy for this just basic general stuff.

[Anonymous No.3599182]

>>3599155
>just you put wrinkles on the thumb when we should be looking at the underside of the thumb not the top knuckly part.
well that was to show the crease from the slight bend although my are still sorta fucked anyways. damn i actually like how you have your hand positioned plus the other hand. i guess ill have to apply that to another drawing

well this is what i have after like a half hour of painting

[Anonymous No.3599184]

slowly moving through fun with a pencil

[Anonymous No.3599185]

>>3599182
I'm sorry but where the fuck does this arm come from? It's clearly not attached to your subject?

[Anonymous No.3599188]

>>3599185
kek. its supposed to be her other arm but i guess it doesnt read right. i really should have drawn this as a figure and cropped. but if it helps to understand, the torso is supposed to be viewed almost completely from the side so the other arm is going across the chest. maybe i should just transform the forearm so that its pointed more downward like in the other anons drawing?

[Anonymous No.3599199]

>>3599184
why are people so much better than me at drawing the stupid old man heads

[Anonymous No.3599202]

>>3599199
Are you overly self critical?

[Anonymous No.3599204]

>>3599202
no, I just have bad sense for drawing I guess

[Anonymous No.3599205]

>>3598788
I... don't know. I've always posted here. Where can I post? /alt//?

[Anonymous No.3599215]

>>3599205
no this is still /beg/ af. but the ngmi think it's impressive.

[Anonymous No.3599217]

>>3597272
Good effort. You're over emphasizing on the shapes, which is fine in the beginning, but just remember that muscles (like the calves) don't actually look like that.

Also, it might help to put your outline on another layer and dim the opacity as you paint in the values so you can see your forms better.

[Anonymous No.3599221]

>>3598115
you did alright but there's a lot more practice to be done. keep drawing.

[Anonymous No.3599223]

is there somewhere I can go and see descriptions like this for different emotions?

[Anonymous No.3599258]

I'm trying to get back into drawing art but this is the first thing that I have actually finished with a tablet before even if its a rough sketch, is there guides specifically for tablet because I cannot for the life of me get clean lines so I am stuck with drawing really sketchy kinda shit.

[Anonymous No.3599261]

>>3599258
Time & practice. It'll come. If anything, make it your purpose to make clean lines, even if it takes a bit longer than doing sketchy shit.

[Anonymous No.3599263]

>>3599258
Turn smoothing on in whatever program you are using to get normal lines.
I have a Huion GT-191 and the lines will be all wobbly if you are not zoomed in enough and have smoothing off.
The same thing will happen no matter what tablet you use.

[Anonymous No.3599295]

>>3599263
That helps out a lot actually cheers

[Anonymous No.3599308]

>>3599263
> lines will be all wobbly if you are not zoomed in enough and have smoothing off.
>The same thing will happen no matter what tablet you use.
Which program do you use?

[Anonymous No.3599309]

>>3599184
WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU OTHER BEGINNERS SO GOOD AT THIS

[Anonymous No.3599310]

>>3599309
Nigga read the book.

[Anonymous No.3599331]

>>3599310
I done read it

[Anonymous No.3599334]

>>3599331
why you lying man

[Anonymous No.3599348]

>>3599199
Did you try more than once?

[Anonymous No.3599352]

>>3598702
Appreciate it, anon. I never thought of it like this.

>Yoshiyuki Sadamoto
He gives you what he wants without too many details. He uses a wider colour spectrum than Inoue, and he does it well. I also appreciate his sense of depth.

>Kentaro Miura
He reached the "sweet spot" right before she moved to digital art. His style is (or at least used to be) obsessively detailed (which is great, but I consider it a 'con' if you have to look for 10 seconds to understand what is going on in the scene).

>Takehiko Inoue
It just works. The correct equilibrium of detail and realism... And the hands he draws are alive!

I mean, it is just my opinion. Perhaps some of you disagree.

[Anonymous No.3599365]

>>3598870
snek has always been worst girl

[Anonymous No.3599378]

Finished this a while back. I've started delving into Digital Drawing and mostly just experimenting with it for fun.

[Anonymous No.3599446]

Fuck Loomis, Fun with a Pencil is boring and remedial as fuck. What alternatives are there that are more interesting and fun? And that will actually teach you how to draw non-white people instead of caricatures.

[Anonymous No.3599454]

>>3599182
You really did not listen to my advice in the other thread. Did you at least look in a mirror or get a reference for that hand?

[Anonymous No.3599463]

can someone share the most brief yet comprehensive aka concise 'how to draw anime' infographic available. It doesn't need to be any good just cover everything.

[Anonymous No.3599466]

>>3599463
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5Oc303iTqQ

[Anonymous No.3599468]

>>3599463

[Anonymous No.3599471]

>>3599466
>>3599468
I need to be able to draw the whole body

[Anonymous No.3599484]

>>3599471
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_D68VaxNxQ

[Anonymous No.3599512]

Im reading and practicing loomis atm. How do i even know if I'm ready to proceed on to the next step/page?

[Anonymous No.3599513]

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[Anonymous No.3599529]

>>3599512
Stop being a pussy trexguy you already know this shit.

[Anonymous No.3599535]

>>3599529
How do I make it non shit tho.
Is it necessary that I master drawing old people before moving on?

[Anonymous No.3599579]

[Anonymous No.3599585]

how the fuck do i stop drawing from the wrist all the fucking time, i need to learn how to use my arm
any drills for this?

[Anonymous No.3599589]

>>3599579
Good poses, lots of movement. How'd you get them to look like this? I struggle with gestures.

[Anonymous No.3599591]

>>3599585
Move paper farther away from your body, make sure you're facing the paper at about 90° if possible.

[Anonymous No.3599594]

>>3599512
Are you just copying, or are you understanding the underlying forms and how they interact? Are you noticing the forms in your normal/fun art improving?

[Anonymous No.3599595]

>>3599585
Draw with a 7 feet long stick.

[Anonymous No.3599597]

>>3599589
i mean he just copied loomis. nothing wrong with that but that's what he did

[Anonymous No.3599598]

>>3599522
Your cartoon heads looked good but shit fell apart in your realistic drawings. Work on understanding the proportions and shapes of real faces, construct faces with photo references, etc...

[Anonymous No.3599599]

>>3599585
use the overhand grip

[Anonymous No.3599601]

>>3599597
Well, fuck. I feel like a brainlet but even with Vilppu's manual I'm struggling. Which Loomis book (or other popular books here, I'm not a huge fan of Loomis) talks about gesture, rhythm, etc?

[Anonymous No.3599602]

>>3599601
his figure drawing book in the sticky. a lot of brainlets get stuck thinking fun with a pencil is his only book for some reason but his figure book and head and hands book are great

[Anonymous No.3599608]

>>3599068
could you draw where the proper equal third lines would be?

[Anonymous No.3599610]

I'm very new to the digital art medium, never studied how to draw before as i only did it as a hobby when I was bored. I want to get more serious with it now. Bought an ipad and made this in medibag. Where would be the best place to start studying with my current skill set? Should I start with drawing on the right side?

[Anonymous No.3599612]

>>3599602
I have all the stuff in the artbook thread on my computer, I noticed those books were in there. Would it help my progress to look into those other books now or should I finish Fun with a Pencil first?

[Anonymous No.3599618]

>>3599612
fun w a pencil is only useful if you are really really /beg/. go ahead and read those other books, it's not going to hurt and will only help. worst case you're reading something that's too "advanced" for you but you're going to need to understand these things anyway in the long run

[Anonymous No.3599643]

>>3598627
i really like this anon
good job
the bottom jaw is a bit off mainly that tooth thats pointing towards the viewer

[Anonymous No.3599663]

>>3599594
I guess so, I am able to make a 'meh' old man without copying from the book. I have also noticed an improvement in constructing heads from different angles while drawing in my current style. I need to work on my realistic proportions though.

[Anonymous No.3599665]

suddenly understood what these circles are for, had an epiphany while dreaming

[Anonymous No.3599666]

>>3599665

Well done, anon. Depicting form from simple shapes is basically the main reason everyone recommends Loomis and it's amazing how many beginners still don't catch on.

[Anonymous No.3599683]

>>3597223
heyhey,
first time painting in lineart with photoshop after a long time of giving up. any comments / advice would be greatly appreaciated but personally i think the color choices suck but that's me. ignore the background scenery that's just there for whatever. thanks in advance!

[resources No.3599705]

i remember a guy shared a pastebin with numerous links of mega to books, i need perspective books on characters "foreshortening"

Ive alredy read Framed Perspective 1 & 2

but the second book doesnt show a lot of example on characters with the perspective grid :( need that well explained

[Anonymous No.3599706]

>>3599683
i'm confused, what part of this did you actually draw?

[Anonymous No.3599731]

Is this trash?

[Anonymous No.3599732]

>>3599731

[Anonymous No.3599740]

>>3599731
It's boring and gay.

[Anonymous No.3599745]

>>3599706
>first time painting in lineart with photoshop after a long time of giving up.
>first time painting in lineart with photoshop
>first time painting in lineart

[Anonymous No.3599760]

>>3598316
>forgetting about naf

[Anonymous No.3599763]

how do I learn to shade correctly

I'm improving at construction and copying shading from reference images, but I can't wrap my head around shading.

Do I assume there's a light source at some point in space in reference to the image, and if the contour/plane is perpendicular to the source, its lightly shaded, if its opposite to the light source, its darkly shaded, and if its facing the light source directly, it provides a reflection? Am I getting this right?

[Anonymous No.3599769]

Time for an advice/rant/depression post. Please bear with me here. It's a bit lengthy so I'll post the full version in a pastebin.

https://pastebin.com/V6YVmniY

tl;dr - I'm a hack afraid of failure and want to change, but don't know how I can without reverting back to my old ways. Want to start out from the beginning but am scared of failure and not knowing what to do with myself when I ultimately do fail.

[Anonymous No.3599776]

>>3599769

[Anonymous No.3599782]

>>3599763
https://androidarts.com/art_tut.htm

[Anonymous No.3599784]

>>3597885

[Anonymous No.3599790]

>>3599484
>Mark Criley

[Anonymous No.3599795]

>>3599790
>baby wants one step 'how to anime' infographic
Might as well send him off in a wrong direction.

[Anonymous No.3599802]

>>3599795
that sounds nice. anyone have one of those that's translated into english?

[Anonymous No.3599807]

Hey guys, I just started Hamptons figure drawing book, really enjoying gesture drawing, should have picked it up way sooner.

however, i cant fill a page with these things because it's way easier to draw them big, is there a good trick to drawing smaller?

[Anonymous No.3599810]

Drew this for my girl, Kind of copied from a reference

[Anonymous No.3599813]

>>3599807
Mark where the top and the bottom of the figure is supposed to go on the paper.

[Anonymous No.3599818]

>>3599810
it's cute and has a cute intention

[Anonymous No.3599829]

>>3599813
Appreciated, should i be doing these quick, or does that come later?

[Anonymous No.3599878]

>>3599378
I like this. I don't know shit about art, so sorry I can't really critique, but I hope you develop this more, it reminds me of Beksinski.

[Anonymous No.3599885]

>>3598690
Don't worry about style; the more you try and draw with an intended style, the worse it will look. Just do studies of art you like and make sure it comes from different artists, and you'll naturally start to draw in your own style.

[Anonymous No.3599886]

>>3598870
She's gonna fall over.

[Anonymous No.3599952]

is this good art?

[Anonymous No.3599958]

>>3599952
that back is putrid. also any art not depicting mei as pocchari is by definition shit.

[Anonymous No.3599961]

>>3599952
their backs look like male abs

[Anonymous No.3599962]

>>3599961
and that's a good thing

[Anonymous No.3599967]

>>3599952
>BLACKED meme

[Anonymous No.3599977]

>>3599185
>>3599454
um i just did it in the mirror and its perfectly possible. there are issues with the forearm, namely the 'musclely' part needs to be better represented and in need add the upper arm just above to show that the shoulder is further away. plus obviously do a better job and drawing the hands and getting the finer curves of the wrist right. if i do all that do i get a gold star? or at least a silver?

[Anonymous No.3600000]

>>3597223
How am I doing /ic/? Currently going through "drawing on the right side of the brain". Also read a bit loomis and some perspective.

[Anonymous No.3600042]

>>3598883
thank you anon
Still practicing and i thank you for your help

[Anonymous No.3600048]

>>3599618
Will do, thanks anon!

[Anonymous No.3600051]

>>3599705
Check the catalog for the artbook thread, if it's not there then a new one should be up soon.

[Anonymous No.3600054]

>>3599731
It's pretty alright, but there's no sense of style and your lines could stand to be smoother and more confident.

[Anonymous No.3600056]

>>3599977
No. It looks like shit and you're defensive about it, study hands. Draw hundreds of them until you have their form and anatomy memorized. Then come back to that painting.

[Anonymous No.3600058]

>>3600000
Looks like you're struggling with proportion, but keep at it.

[Anonymous No.3600060]

you know how some people cant enjoy music because their brains cant comprehend melody or whatever so it always just sounds like unpleasant noises? thats how I feel like I am with drawing
I swear this was 100% effort and it looks like a 7 year old drew it

[Anonymous No.3600078]

>>3600060
did you read the fucking book

[Anonymous No.3600081]

>>3600078
obviously not the whole thing if I'm still on the first exercise

[Anonymous No.3600085]

>>3600081
did you just skipped this step?

[Anonymous No.3600086]

>>3600085
I don't even pick up on the details
am retard

[Anonymous No.3600087]

>>3600060
That's so awful. I fucking like it.

[Anonymous No.3600089]

>>3600086
I don't think this is a drawing thing or a talent thing anon, I think you're actually retarded

[Anonymous No.3600095]

>>3600089
yeah

[Anonymous No.3600100]

>>3600060
It's okay anon, even great artists drew terribly at first. Pick one specific thing you're struggling with and focus on that until you're comfortable before moving onto the next thing.
Draw some fun mindless stuff, and experiment too. If you're enjoying what you're drawing, it'll be obvious in your art and it'll naturally look better.
Good luck!!

[Anonymous No.3600101]

>>3600060
Try exaggerating the shapes of the cheeks, noses, and ears some more.

[Anonymous No.3600102]

>>3600101
*And chins, forgot to add that.

[Anonymous No.3600107]

>>3600060
from this travesty I'm seeing I can only assume you drew a circle then proceeded to try and copy the end result instead of following his instructions

[Anonymous No.3600234]

Total beginner here. I'm totally frustrated and could us some direction/motivation/tips

I've been following draw a box. The first lesson went well and I felt progression. My lines feel a lot more confidant and directed.

I noticed my first issue with drawing boxes. I don't feel like I'm doing it intuitively. I can't 'picture' the box naturally. I can draw a decent box but I have to sit there, line up my pen and place dots where it would makes sense for the vanishing points to be and then draw everything. It's taking me several minutes per box. I feel like I'm just going through a step by step process and not actually doing anything

I started lesson two and tried the natural shapes exercise where you draw ellipsis around a sausage to demonstrate 3d understanding. This is where I got frustrated. I don't see it. I can't process the image as 3d. All I can do is try to replicate what I see others doing but I can't intuitively sense the 3d shape on my own. It doesn't click

I've waisted a good 4th of a sketchbook trying this exercise and I'm literally near tears. I feel like my brain is broken

[Anonymous No.3600258]

>>3600234
Some peoples brains just aren't wired for art anon, however before outright just quitting I'd recommend you take a nice long break and come back to it. The more frustrated you get the worse your work will look.

[Anonymous No.3600268]

>>3600234
You don't have to picture shit in your head before putting it on paper.

[Anonymous No.3600293]

>>3600085
>>3600060
>>3599309
>>3599199

a lotta people in this thread are totally missing the point of this exercise, it doesn't even have to be old man heads, its all about learning how to deconstruct complex objects like a face into simple forms. try it with something you like instead of boring old men faces

[Anonymous No.3600309]

>>3600293
but I don't even know how to do that

[Anonymous No.3600327]

https://smile.amazon.com/Draw-Paint-Anatomy-Step-Step/dp/1565239660/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1536725243&sr=8-2&keywords=marshall+Vandruff

does this seem like it'd be useful for an absolute beginner?

[Anonymous No.3600344]

>>3600309
then practice and learn how to

itll really help

[Anonymous No.3600355]

>>3600344
is there a name for this so I can look up videos of people doing it so I have more examples? like making arms out of ovals, and then making a body from a square, etc

[Anonymous No.3600359]

>>3600355
its called construction usually

[Anonymous No.3600360]

is Draw with Jazza a meme? his vids come up for everything I type, but his "best free softwares" was such a clear Krita shill that it left a bad taste in my mouth

[Anonymous No.3600384]

>>3600234
Take a break, but while you're going about your day look around and imagine how you'd draw certain things around you irl. Imagine how they'd look in perspective, but not as they are, instead break them down in to spheres, cylinders and boxes in your head. You'll get better at it the more you visualise this, from there, you then draw the sausages and try to imagine the lines that would represent the 2D image as a 3D object in perspective, that will give it form.

Have a quick read of hampton's figure drawing, but also pic related is an artist who renders using perspective lines, Villarrte. These are the lines you want to be able to imagine to give form to a 2D object easier.

[Anonymous No.3600387]

>>3600384
Also a nice trick for objects which derive from cylinders (Arms, left, fingers) is that the circle or arc at either end of a cylinder in perspective, is pretty much the same as the perspective lines for the entire cylinder.

[Anonymous No.3600781]

>>3600360
I hear Jazza is only good for learning intro to animation, that's it.

[Pandaman No.3600781,1]

>>3599121
One VERY IMPORTANT thing to note that most shit people here don't tell you when you're trying to study drawing with books/video tutorials (an example from my experience: Vilppu's drawing manual that has 12 skills/techniques to drawing) is that you never finish the skill and move on! you just put a certain amount of hours and MOVE ON..


This was the biggest mistake I did with drawing, I stayed on skill one gesture drawing for over 50 hours without much improvement, the moment I quit & went ahead to skill #two (drawing spherical forms) my skills jumped and I saw immediate improvement in my gesture drawing! and so I decided I should put a set amount of study for each section (I put 10-hours/skill)

My tip to you is put a set amount of time for each chapter in Loomis's book, for example 15 hours for each chapter that includes reading the chapter! (That will keep your study fresh with a sense of progression).. even if you don't fully master one chapter you should move to the next chapter when the time is up, the next chapter will give you the boost you need to master the previous chapter later on when you return to it..

After that start restudying the book (or change the book to add fun to your study time)..
The restudying shouldn't take more than half your studying time..

[Anonymous No.3601267]

>>3597223
im trying to get back into drawing and trying to better understand the human anatomy. i know i nees some work but here is my picture of a model i drew from a model thread couple weeks back.