/beg/ - Beginner Thread

[Anonymous No.3586196]

Make your lines beautiful

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the Drawthread with our fundamental exercises.

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, do not give up, make someone proud.

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS:

#1)
>screenshot the image and post that instead

#2)
>change camera capture settings to something smaller

#3)
>send to computer and resize in MSPaint

→ →
There's a new (and cleaner) sticky in town! You can see it at:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

TRY TO BE MORE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK - many studies are left unreplied, which is a bit sad and can be quite demotivating for the people that try their best to improve, but are left directionless.

Just remember: "Success is no accident. It is hard work, perseverance, learning, studying, sacrifice and most of all, love of what you are doing or learning to do."

[Anonymous No.3586206]

Same 30 mins anon. This one feels worse. I just started painting today but this is demotivating lol.

>ref
https://media.cntraveler.com/photos/54074fb581424d9d655bdad0/master/pass/cliffs-of-etretat-2048-1536.jpg

[Anonymous No.3586212]

>>3586206
that's not bad, anon. your perspective is good, the thing about painting, especially digital painting, is that you gotta keep turd polishing.

[Anonymous No.3586229]

>>3586212
Definitely finding it difficult to do highlights and all that.
Decided with this 30 min one, to go for a smaller subject. More detail but still feels like an unpolished turd. Do i need better brushes? Im using exclusively the default round PS brush.

[Anonymous No.3586230]

>>3586229
>forgot image

[Anonymous No.3586233]

What pencil hardness do you prefer for drawing?
I've got a ton of HBs because they're easy to erase and I'm still practicing, but they feel kind of dull when shading.
I'd like to have deep blacks like you see in black-and-white cinema. Should I go with 2B or even darker? Is it normal to mix pencil types within the same drawing or is it best if I stick with one?

[Anonymous No.3586270]

should I skip Fun with a pencil and start with Drawing the head and hands and Figure drawing for all it's worth?

[Anonymous No.3586280]

another 30 min. Did another cloud but its hard to tell its even a cloud.

What can i do to get better at these scenery shapes?

[Anonymous No.3586292]

how is this?

[Anonymous No.3586298]

>>3586270
fun w a pencil is a good warm up if you're really a beginner. if you want to draw figures and know how to draw a circle then yeah start on his figure book and head and hands, it will help immensely

[Anonymous No.3586303]

>>3586280
it better, i think you need more soft edges to make it more like a cloud

[Anonymous No.3586316]

>>3586280
Check out if this guy https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsDxB-CSMQ0Vu_hTag7-2UQ

[Anonymous No.3586340]

I feel like I fucked it up very badly

[Anonymous No.3586357]

Where do I find gesture references after exhausting quickposes?
>>3586340
It looks pretty much natural except the angle between torso and hips imo

[Anonymous No.3586414]

I have been taking drawing serious and am happy but don't know if i'm doing it right. I been drawing cause i wanted to draw comics so i ask am i doing it right?

1/2

[Anonymous No.3586415]

>>3586414
2/2

[Anonymous No.3586417]

just finished this

[Anonymous No.3586426]

>>3586417
Where does this creature live?
What does it do?
Could it defend itself or hunt for energy if it needed too?
Do the wings on it's back serve a purpose?

[Anonymous No.3586429]

>>3586414
>>3586415
this looks like a good start but you really do need to read loomis, particularly his figure book and his head and hands book. i know everyone says it's a meme but it will help you draw realistic or semirealistic looking humans and make drawing them both from imagination and with a reference so much easier. learning construction of the human form is essential and makes drawing more fun because you'll feel more confident when you know what you're doing and where everything is supposed to go. but, overall, i'd say you're doing better than most /beg/s but proper construction will help you a lot.

[Anonymous No.3586430]

>>3586426
Great questions!

The creature is called Gomot. He's an ancient mechanical construct built for defense and warfare by a long-deceased tribe. It's very sturdy and durable, able to survive for long periods of time on absolutely nothing. There exists a repurposed version of it built by a modern society based on the creature's blueprints (pic related). The modern version is not quite as durable given its material build and reliance on electricity, but it's capable of dishing out more brute force. The wings were kind of an afterthought and I admittedly just added em for the coolness factor - sorry.

[Anonymous No.3586437]

>>3586430
Neato, it's always important to attach as much lore as possible when creating these sorts of things. Not only because it's cool to have lore, but because it'll help you cement your drawings into a reality.

As an onlooker, I don't see how this thing could fight at all, maybe using the drill on it's ass to charge you, or maybe swinging his head or some built in laser in it's eye. I also have to wonder if the drill serves a purpose outside of combat, maybe it is a re-purposed mining bot? The legs do seem useful for navigating mining shafts. Either way, one of my old friends who was a feverent writer told me that you must define it from the top.

Why does it exist?

Work from there and keep asking why to nuance the creature to your liking. He had an excel sheet with about 50 generic questions he would ask himself for just about anything he would include in his world that didn't exist in ours.

[Anonymous No.3586441]

>>3586437
That's some great advice. Thank you!

[Anonymous No.3586442]

>>3586430
>black version of something
>has kuro in the name
nice!

[Anonymous No.3586445]

>>3586442
Yeah, I'm pretty proud of myself for that touch. Thank you

[Anonymous No.3586460]

>>3586429
funny thing is i been using those books to learn. can never copy the pictures 100% but am getting there

[Anonymous No.3586464]

>>3586460
well keep practicing and you'll do fine.

[Anonymous No.3586472]

what to do now /ic/?
i feel like my gesture drawing is really shitty, but I feel also like I can't improve my figure drawing without understanding a little better anatomy/proportion

[Anonymous No.3586475]

>>3586472
Draw skeletons. Add flesh.

[Anonymous No.3586482]

>>3586475
this. you should be drawing these when you do gestures

[Anonymous No.3586488]

>>3586475
>>3586482
dRaW sKeLeToNs
AdD fLeSh

[Anonymous No.3586519]

>>3586488
Tbh what I said should be put on a shaky tumblr text gif

[Anonymous No.3586525]

>>3586340
You're drawing with fisheye lense... so of course it looks weird. I think you got it pretty right.

[Anonymous No.3586545]

>>3586482
No he shouldn't, especially not loomis's arbitrariy mannequin disc's for hips bullshit.

>>3586472
Your gesture drawings are shitty because you're not drawing the gesture, you're drawing the contour.
Theres not much else to say yet since you fundamentally don't seem to understand what gesture is about, which to be fair is a concept that is a bit abstract to grasp.
Read books and watch videos by: glenn vilppu, karl gnass, michael hampton.
Proko is also fine but his approach focuses a lot on accuracy instead of the feeling which makes it more difficult to grasp where the difference is between contour and gesture.

Anyway theres a hundred places that are far better resources for figures than loomis.
Especially concerning gesture.

[Anonymous No.3586560]

>>3586196
Damn, I should go pro.

On a side note, I don't think something I've created has ever made me laugh this hard before

[Anonymous No.3586611]

This looks amateurish as fuck. Am I doing something wrong?

[Anonymous No.3586613]

>>3586611
just based on intuition i feel like the shadows with the soft airbrushed edges arent really doing the pic justice.

[Anonymous No.3586618]

Just got my first digital tablet in, i love it (kamvas 13 pro). I havent drawn in literally years and this is bringing me back to this hobby. Thoughts and critics on my first sketch? I didnt use any references.

[Anonymous No.3586623]

>>3586611
Learn the planes of the face. Your shading is wrong because you don't understand how the shadows are formed, only that there should be shadows in certain places.>>3586611

[Anonymous No.3586674]

>>3586618
>I didnt use any references.
Well.
You should have.

[Anonymous No.3586717]

does anyone have any resources on how to draw action/speed lines correctly?

[Anonymous No.3586733]

So I need some feed back on this if anyone can

[Anonymous No.3586734]

>>3586733
I hate it when it turns

[Anonymous No.3586877]

I just recently started painting with oil pastels. Any advice?

[Anonymous No.3586898]

>>3586733
I don't have anything constructive to say because I'm a pleb but I wanted to tell you I like it and I smiled at it.

[Anonymous No.3586899]

Had an idea when I was meditating last night that everything is really spheres . Maybe something to do with atoms I dunno. I’ve been trying to imagine everything in boxes but then I sort of added spheres to it and today mo doodling was a bit smoother

[Anonymous No.3586900]

>>3586560
Nice dude , open the mind

[Anonymous No.3586908]

>>3586611
For starters, you need to hue shift, using a darker shade of the base color for the shadows looks pretty bland. Secondly, use a bigger brush to lay in your colors. Third, it's a bit overblended. Use that blur tool sparingly.

[Anonymous No.3586929]

How did I do /beg/? I feel like I should have done more with the hoodie but I got confused with how to shade it. If anyone could give any way I could have improved it I would appreciate it.

[Anonymous No.3586940]

A lot of ressources show the bones and tendons of the foot but I never see something that outlines how the shape of the toes are derived. How does the orientation of the toe bones relate to the orientation of the planes of the toes including nails and fatpads?

[Anonymous No.3586943]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I'LL NEVER MAKE IT!!!!

[Anonymous No.3586977]

>>3586929
maybe instead of using contour lines for the teeth you could just indicate them with shading/lighting. The difference in line weight looks uneven considering the thick lines you used for the hoodie.
You could also put more shading /folds on the hoodie.

[Anonymous No.3586985]

>>3586877
If you're enjoying the media splash out a little bit, there's a gigantic difference between student and artist grade oil pastels

[Anonymous No.3587035]

Which looks better?

[Anonymous No.3587039]

pls critique my work. ty.

[Anonymous No.3587043]

>>3587039
looks exactly like beg tier photoshop painting, mainly watch your edges, looks a bit liney, like instead of being masses with edges there's still an element of outlines and filled in bits.

values are okay, could be better, too much mid not enough light and dark

bit messy here and there

but good expression and likeness

[Anonymous No.3587066]

I hate myself for not noticing sooner than the pecs couldn't end at the armpits. Seriously that's boobs 101 but I got carried away.

The face though looks better when I didn't use a reference, I get lost with all the details from a face and end up creating my own character. I guess symbol drawing has its uses, people still knew I was doing Terry Crews because I only got the most relevant features from memory

[Anonymous No.3587102]

>>3587035
I expected you to ask this in the stylization thread, though. People in /beg/ weren't too good at giving sound advice when I last posted something here. I think you draw well enough to post in that thread.

[Anonymous No.3587103]

>>3587102
Thanks, I'll head there.

[Anonymous No.3587106]

I just did this one from the ref thread. Overall looks okay I think but I know it can be improved, just don't know how. What do I need to work on?

[Anonymous No.3587112]

>>3587106
really you don't need to work on anything specifically, you just need to draw more, and learn a bit on your own by getting comfortable and then experimenting

it's really not too bad, values are bit flat, drawing is a bit off, bit messy, too many lines etc. but it works pretty well, looks like a girls face, looks lit, details on the eyes work and brows work. so good work overall, just do it more.

[Anonymous No.3587125]

>>3586357
bumping this part
>Where do I find gesture references after exhausting quickposes?

I mean I could use porn for other kinds of figure references but not it isn't easy to find good gesture poses imo.

[Anonymous No.3587165]

>>3586206
i also did a 30 min paint

[Anonymous No.3587167]

>>3587165
quite nice, surprised it took 30 minute though, where does the time go?

[Anonymous No.3587168]

>>3587167
most of it is in the initial sketch, everything afterwards is just plopping colors on.

[Anonymous No.3587194]

how do I do this?
calculate what 1.8 times that measurement is?

[Anonymous No.3587227]

As a total beginner with a pencil and a blank piece of A4 printer paper, what do I start with? Do I try to draw people even though it will turn out terrible? Or do I just draw circles and squares first?

[Anonymous No.3587231]

>>3587227
man our sticky is pretty good you know?

[Anonymous No.3587234]

>>3587231
I'll email the mods and let them know they can shut down /ic/ and replace it with a link to that dry and boring google doc. Thanks

[Anonymous No.3587235]

>>3587234
ngmi

[Anonymous No.3587237]

>>3587235
Why are you even here if all you do is post curt, unhelpful responses. You might as well just post "bing it" to everything. Go away you sad little man.

[Anonymous No.3587267]

>>3586898
thanks i just wish it was better but i guess that the fate for all artists

[Anonymous No.3587278]

>>3587227
Read "Keys to Drawing" and do the exercises it asks of you.

[Anonymous No.3587329]

I tried my hand at painting, but i'm not very good. I don't know how to add detail, or advance it beyond this point.

[Anonymous No.3587330]

>>3587329
Study references and draw what you see.

[Anonymous No.3587331]

>>3587165
Nice, anon. Yours looks a lot more like rocks than mine.

Ive been creating shapes and then trying to color based off of some basic lighting principals. Is it better for me to learn to simply block in color and shape directly from my references?

[Anonymous No.3587332]

>>3587330
Thanks, I've been loosely basing it off of this.
https://www.walldevil.com/greece-sea-beaches-cliffs-boats-wallpaper-96594/

[Anonymous No.3587335]

Can someone please give me guidance on how to get the values right? I've read up on the theory feel I understand most of it, but I still can't get it looking right...

[Anonymous No.3587338]

>>3587329
Im the anon who did some of the 30 min studies at top of thread.

As someone who just started aswell, Ive come across some guidelines that help me study.

Use as big a brush as you can get away with.
Hard edge brushes take priority over soft.
Transparency should only be used to blend colors.

Ive started with using references for color and shapes while making most of the scene from imagination. I dont know if this is an effective way to study, but it allows me to look at my work from a 3rd party perspective and see what simply looks bad instead of what looks wrong.

[Anonymous No.3587380]

>>3587335
Your rendering and values are muddy, post ref and we can talk more.

[Anonymous No.3587387]

I don't want to sound like a retard, but it's completely unavoidable with this question, the "problems" in Perspective Made Easy are just another word for "exercises", right?

[Anonymous No.3587395]

[Anonymous No.3587400]

>>3587395

[Anonymous No.3587407]

>>3587400

[Anonymous No.3587411]

>>3587407
>>3587400
>>3587395
hi ic; i made my resolve; my practices were faltering lately and i want to actually get better; i'll be coming around as often as possible for any critiques.

[Anonymous No.3587428]

>>3586206

[Anonymous No.3587456]

>Brother sends me pics he took during his vacations.
>Mostly pictures of landscape or monuments.
>Use them to learn to draw from life

Am I doing it right?

[Anonymous No.3587469]

>>3587456
According to /ic/ drawing a landscape or person from photographs is basically the same as tracing and won't help you improve, but I personally think that's a bunch of horseshit.

[Anonymous No.3587541]

>>3586196
I'm finally starting to like what I make, but I need to learn some hands and feet, what are good references and methods?

[Anonymous No.3587610]

Reminder to look at your drawing through a mirror

[Anonymous No.3587780]

>>3587541
Did something else today!

Still no hands though.

[Anonymous No.3587815]

>>3587780
looks cute, but the contour line on the bottom of the eyes and the lines on the neck serve to age the girl

[Anonymous No.3587822]

>>3586229
https://www.deviantart.com/aarongriffinart/art/BRUSHES-609357781
Brushes dont solve the world but here are some free brushes that seem decent. They have some cloud and like brushes.

[Anonymous No.3587823]

doing the exercises in perspective made easy, drew a road with sidewalk, fences and telephone poles on both side,made the VP too low, messed up some lines on the poles and have no idea how to draw fences also apparently my sketchbook is quite uneven in certain places making some lines seem aligned to me when I drew them

[Anonymous No.3587825]

Do I have potenital?

Bout to go on a study for things I feel I lack skill in severely

[Anonymous No.3587828]

>>3587823
I realized that I should've made the road wider and that the actual location of the VP isn't the problem in this case, fuck me

[Anonymous No.3587835]

man drawing is hard, fuck this

[Anonymous No.3587839]

>>3587780
remove the neck lines

[Anonymous No.3587841]

>>3587825
Anon I...

[Anonymous No.3587848]

>>3587823
did another exercise, this time drawing a railroad from the middle with a road crossing it in the foreground
I tried to make the road more road like but I don't think I succeeded
I also tried to put a railroad sign and marking on the road, but I have no idea how to draw those and the letters in perspective so they came out extremely wrong

[Anonymous No.3587864]

Figure Drawing Practice

[Anonymous No.3587925]

[Anonymous No.3587928]

I feel like doing Loomis will help me out a lot with the face issues in this.

Also, how does this look in general and how fucked is her right leg

[Anonymous No.3587934]

eh

[Anonymous No.3587936]

>>3587928
I mean, her leg is fucked because you don't understand the knee construction, but I'm more amused by her fingers coming straight out of her forearm without a visible wrist or palm.

Loomis will help you because you need to start thinking in terms of 3d planes and landmarks. For example, her head is pointing up, yet you drew her chin down, because you didn't consider the bottom plane of her chin could be visible (and aligned higher than her jaw). Since you use the chin and hairline as landmarks to place the facial features, and those landmarks are out of perspective, the entire perspective on your face makes no sense.

Proko's first videos are a good explanation of the Loomis head, complete with planes, landmarks, perspective changes, etc.

[Anonymous No.3587938]

>>3587934
Needs more Loomis.

[Anonymous No.3587942]

>>3587194
Ruler or wing it

[Anonymous No.3587944]

>>3587936
I think I know what your saying, like the chin and jaw should kind of form an upside down V at that angle right?

I've been trying to think with shapes lately (having not studied loomis, which I'm currently starting to do) but its pretty hard as I can't see the shapes in my references for the most part.

[Anonymous No.3587948]

How do I adapt Loomis for anime style art?

[Anonymous No.3587960]

>>3587934
I'm not an expert by any means, but here's some pointers I think might help you.

Start by breaking the three-quarter head into front and side planes. This will help you determine where the eyes, and center of the face should be. Keep in mind the wider the side plane is (head more turned), the more compressed the front plane will become. A common mistake is to make both planes too wide - you have to remember if you see a lot of one, you'll see less of the other.

Once you have the side plane, you can carve a wedge out of the face to create the area for the eyes. This will generally create a distinct silhouette visible on the far profile of the face. (While the profile can vary, it's usually best to align the "in" dip (under the brow) with the length of the eyes, and have the "out" dip (cheeks) underneath.

When placing the eyes, you have to keep in mind they go *in* the face, not flat on it. The eyebrows, however, go above the chunk you've carved, on the brow line (duh), which means they are more forward than the eyes, and won't align straight with them in anything other than a straight-on view.

In three-quarter, the bridge of the nose will align with the continuation of the curve of the top eyelid, something you've done well here.

When doing stylized heads, you need to keep in mind your proportions, though vastly different from realistic heads, will tend to follow specific rules.

The amount of forehead to face ratio is ridiculous in anime characters, especially on young females. While we're used to the eyes being the midpoint of the head (the head, not the face), I find that in anime, the midpoint tends to be closer to the brow line.

Your eyes are just too big, and even if you're going for a style with big eyes, I would lower them considerably, so you can lower your brow line as well. The ear, obviously, will follow.

(cont.)

[Anonymous No.3587965]

>>3587960
Once you have the general facial construction figured out, you can start adding more specific details.

The mouth, especially on younger characters, will sit lower than you would expect. Again, for adults, the general proportion rule is that it's located one third down from the bottom of the nose to the chin. In children, it's closer to being halfway down. This is something you've generally gotten well in your drawing as well.

The nose will have the typical "upturn" characteristic of cute characters. When the nose is very short and tiny, like in moe styles, it will sit fairly high, closer to the eyes. Keep in mind the apparent height of the nose relative to the eyes will change based on the up/down angle of the head.

On females, when not hidden by hair, the corner of the jaw can be softened or erased completely near the ear to show the softness of that area (this is something else your original drawing already has). In general, many lines can be softened or erased to show areas of fat, for example the bottom/center of the mouth being drawn with a lighter line to indicate the fullness of the bottom lip causing some overlap.

Hair is poofy. Like, really poofy. It doesn't just sit on the cranium, and while regular, realistic hair has some volume, anime hair has a LOT of volume. Like, when you combine the big-ass forehead with the volume of the hair, it's kinda insane to think about how far down on the head the eyes really are.

You generally want to simplify hair to a few big masses. I can see you've sorta done that, though you have some chickenscratch and extra unnecessary lines on the inside of the volumes muddying things a bit. Don't be afraid to look up anime hairstyles for reference, and pay attention to how the artist simplifies the hair into specific volumes.

[Anonymous No.3587966]

>>3587948
Lastly, to answer this one, I think Loomis is a tool to teach you to think in terms of perspective, forms, and planes (at least, his beginner books are). Once you have a good notion of that, you can head right into stylizing characters however you want (whether it be anime or calarts or whatever you can think of). The basic rules of perspective, landmarks and planes will remain the same no matter what.

[Anonymous No.3587968]

>>3587960
>>3587965
wow thanks

[Anonymous No.3587969]

>>3587965
>>3587960
my hero; im a different anon than the person you're talking to but fuck thanks much.

[Anonymous No.3587977]

>>3587969
Glad to be of help. I think what helped me develop an understanding of anime faces the most was to study Loomis heads and basic face volumes/perspective, then go onto boorus and see what sort of consistencies I could find in the face among most artists.

Keep in mind some artists will do absolutely incorrect things, so you can't always rely on artistic interpretations, but generally, if it looks good, it's because it has followed specific rules.

If it doesn't seem consistent, it might be because you have not achieved full comprehension of the rule.

Cross-check your stylized knowledge with realistic fundamentals as much as possible. All stylized art is essentially an application of fundies.

[Anonymous No.3587988]

>>3587977
thank you very much. you sound like you actually have a degree of artistic competence unlike other ic faggots.

[Anonymous No.3587997]

>>3587960
Just realized I said something retarded, the curve of the bridge of the nose in three-quarter doesn't align with the top eyelid of the far eye, but with the outline of the far brow. Which isn't the same as the eye/eyelid. Or the same as the eyebrow.

But if you look at any picture or drawing in three-quarter, you should be able to see it fairly easily. The curve flows into the ridge of the eye socket, making a shape that looks like the number 2.

Actual eyebrows vary a lot, both in style/length, as well as position depending on the facial expression of the character. But the ridge of the eye socket is a bony landmark, meaning it won't change.

Main point is, I guess, it doesn't align with the far top eyelid or eyelashes. If anything, the extension of that curve should undershoot that of the nose.

[Anonymous No.3588014]

I think I am the best on 4chan

[Anonymous No.3588015]

>>3587400
This is the best of the three you posted, because you put the viewer up close the action.

[Anonymous No.3588016]

>>3588014
you couldn't even finish the text on the hat you lazy fuck?

[Anonymous No.3588017]

>>3588014
No, I am

[Anonymous No.3588022]

is there a guide of what to practice in what order?

I need some routine on my practice time cause otherwise I feel like I'm just doing whatever

[Anonymous No.3588026]

>>3588022
There are some other ones like this floating around

[Anonymous No.3588030]

>>3588015
>close to the action.
im taking notes anon-kun thank you very much.

[Anonymous No.3588046]

>>3586717
>>3586717
>>3586717
please respond

[Anonymous No.3588066]

P-Please be gentle

[Anonymous No.3588074]

>>3587960
it might be the weed but the way youre describing dfawing a head like carving a block of wood is really fuckin with my head

[Anonymous No.3588077]

Don't be like me, practice hands and confident lines. you dont wanna be like me and just now trying to fix those things when you got 100000000x more shit to fix...

[Anonymous No.3588078]

>>3587395
pencil dick yet hitting the inside of her belly. huh?

[Anonymous No.3588083]

>>3588078
yes, i know it looks ridiculous. but just try to bear with it. stay tuned, i'll have "super lewds" some day and this is NOT that.

[Anonymous No.3588093]

>>3588083
atleast you trying what you love to do. I can't even try cause i know it'll look pleb and scuffed as fuck. good luck and keep at it!

[Anonymous No.3588114]

How do I learn to think of everything as 3D?

[Anonymous No.3588171]

>>3588114
boxes in perspective

[Anonymous No.3588324]

>>3587823
>no idea how to draw fences
don't try take on too much at once.

your fence posts, that would be duplicating a square in perspective.
scott robertons how to draw chapter 3 should cover this.

>>3587848
you really want to sit down and watch a proper perspective drawing series.
see this thread for options.
>>3585585


>new captcha just got slower at loading.

[Anonymous No.3588329]

Should I start with drawabox or go straight to videos from Ctrl+paint? I'm primarily interested in digital.

[Anonymous No.3588336]

>>3588329
Do draw-a-box on digital to familiarize yourself with the distortion and to do meaningful exercises.

[Anonymous No.3588370]

>>3588336
He seems to keep insisting that his exercises only work on physical.

[Anonymous No.3588375]

>>3588370
He's only saying that because there's nothing easier than deleting on digital. If you can force yourself to never erase throughout his exercises you're gonna get the same results as physical. If you can't see yourself realistically doing that then I would say do only the first lesson to help you get used to working digital.

[Anonymous No.3588379]

i just finished this, any thoughts? i'm overall happy with the result but i'm afraid that i could miss some obvious mistakes

[Anonymous No.3588380]

Guys I have a sever infection and a high fever and I'm having to take Amoxicillin 4 times a day. Should I keep drawing or just give up and rest for the next week? I don't want lack of practice to ruin my gains

[Anonymous No.3588384]

Rate my progress pls

[Anonymous No.3588388]

>>3588384
You seem to be developing a style without developing fundamentals. The most recent ones are more detailed but the head shapes are still wrong. Work more on the head shapes first, no point glittering turds.

[Anonymous No.3588390]

>>3588384
i dont see much progress desu
keep going tho

[Anonymous No.3588395]

>>3588388
>Work more on the head shapes first, no point glittering turds.
If I don't get to draw something fun then I'd just end up quitting. Sitting there drawing circles all day would get boring if I don't get to play around a bit. I appreciate the rest of your post.

>>3588390
That's a shame, I thought I did good for 3 days. I'll keep at it.

[Anonymous No.3588398]

>>3588395
if you start from nothing, i can tell you that after 3 days you draw better than me when i had 2 years of experience lmao

[Anonymous No.3588402]

>>3588066
The rough line art doesn't fit with the cel shading at all. Use a different pen, a smoother one.

[Anonymous No.3588411]

>>3588402
Thank you anon!

[Anonymous No.3588480]

>>3588014
This is obviously ugly as fuck and you have no idea what you're doing, however it is uniquely bad in a way that gives it soul. I like it

[Anonymous No.3588483]

>>3588017
That collarbone

[Anonymous No.3588491]

So I'm learning how to draw, but how do I learn how to paint (digitally)

[Anonymous No.3588492]

>>3588491
You don't

[Anonymous No.3588505]

>>3588384
Don't draw the head from one angle over and over, the point of construction is to draw it from multiple angles. If you don't practice that way, you'll never achieve a fluid understanding of the forms and landmarks.

[Anonymous No.3588517]

>>3588505
its only been 30 days and there's no real progress. this anon needs to wait about a year or more.

[Anonymous No.3588523]

I've read that trying to immitate an artist's image can be useful practice.

When I do that, the most important part is trying to figure out the construction right?

[Anonymous No.3588543]

I want to slit my fucking wrists. I will never make it, I will always be shit. Nothing I can do will ever make me draw not complete shitty fucking garbage. I hate myself so much if I had a gun I'd blow my brains out no question.

[Anonymous No.3588548]

>>3588523
Ideally it would be best to be able to see their whole process to get as much as you can from imitating them. Learning their construction is only the most important if that is what you need the most, being in the beginner thread thats probably the case.

[Anonymous No.3588553]

>>3588517
3 days, I'd like to see how good you were after 3 days

>>3588505
Yeah but to learn how to even draw an angle in the first place it takes practice, no point in trying 10 different angles and having them all be shit when I can learn one until it looks like a human head and then move on. Today I learned the profile view, in a day or two I'll learn a different angle. Once I have a handful of angles I feel comfortable with (probably in about 2 weeks) THEN I'll be able to start doing tons of different ones on each page to get to grips with everything lining up.

[Anonymous No.3588580]

>>3588523
You can't successfully imitate an artist if you don't have a basic understanding of what they're doing.

Imo, the most valuable way to do this is to first learn about the theory behind a concept, then look at how artists apply that theory. For example, learn about certain anatomical features, then look at how artists choose to represent them through their paintings or sculptures.

[Anonymous No.3588590]

not great, but I enjoyed drawing this quickposes

[Anonymous No.3588593]

>>3588590
Your legs are little too short.

[Anonymous No.3588594]

>>3588379
I'm not as good as you so ignore if you want but I believe the front arm holding the rocket launcher lacks all muscle detailing past the elbow.
Theres no light muscle shown like you did for his legs not to mention hes holding up the rocket launcher with that arm.
Other than that I'd leave it up to more experienced artists to tell you otherwise

[Anonymous No.3588595]

Tell me what do you feel when u look at this, what do you FEEEEEL?

[Anonymous No.3588622]

>>3588595
Pain in my glans.

[Anonymous No.3588634]

>>3588622
Hahahaha

[Anonymous No.3588640]

So I've been drawing some gesture in my free time, around 1 hour and half or 2 in the past days. I want to achieve a decent level, i read often that the first step is gesture.

When I did this it looked fine to me but now i see it again well.. doesn't look good at all.

[Anonymous No.3588642]

>>3588640
>2st
>3st
Hahahaha

[Anonymous No.3588643]

>>3588640

[Anonymous No.3588644]

>>3588642

\_(ツ)_/¯

[Anonymous No.3588657]

First day :')

[Anonymous No.3588680]

just got a new tablet (gaomon 1560)
photoshop is giving me jaggedy lines, why am I drawing like im micheal j fox? in every other program I get normal lines.
I vaguely remember on my first computer with my first tablet I had this same problem, I don't remember how I solved it or if I never solved it and just stopped using PS.

the only solutions google is giving me is
>uninstall and re download the latest wacom drivers

[Anonymous No.3588699]

>>3587928
In my limited artistic experience it looks like your head isn't anchored to any specific point in perspective... you can keep finagling the features around but it won't look right.

You are right that loomis has a page on how simply aligning your drawings into a perspective grid adds alot of more to your drawing than simply redrawing the features over and over.

[Anonymous No.3588704]

>>3588680
Use a program with a stabilizer setting (SAI).

[Anonymous No.3588754]

>>3586196
Jesus, Scott calm down

[Anonymous No.3588791]

>>3588680
download a different version of photoshop the latest one gives me great lines
and has a stabilizer if you want it.

[Anonymous No.3588794]

I really don't know where to start, /ic/ guide or big sticky? I downloaded some books for absolute beginners and I feel like Fun With a Pencil is gonna be pretty fun but will lead me to develop some bad habits, whereas Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain and Keys to Drawing seem way more technical and a bit more boring. I'm kind of afraid I'll quit if I get too bored.
Am I wrong in wanting to get my lines right before I start learning how to draw? I really don't know how to approach the whole thing.

[Anonymous No.3588877]

>>3588657
nice job anon!

[Anonymous No.3588915]

>>3586357
Sticky has some good resources: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/#fig

[Anonymous No.3588971]

I've been practicing art on and off for awhile now and decided to give it a "serious" try. The thing is it seems like all I'm doing is practicing the fundamentals and doing drawing exercises such as perspective, ellipses, drawing lines, and boxes. I understand that the fundamentals are important and is required to know how to draw well, but when do I actually start drawing things I want to do? When do I start drawing things that aren't boxes, lines, and ellipses.

I've been following Scott Robertson's book: How to Draw: drawing and sketching objects and environments from your imagination

[Anonymous No.3588972]

Why is that when you're drawing the face, everyone tells you to start big first (draw the head first) and then the details? Is there anything technically wrong with starting from the eyes or the eyebrows? I find it hard to draw the head first and then sketch all the details.

[Anonymous No.3588976]

I can’t free-hand boxes at all, the bottom always fucks me up. What do?

[Anonymous No.3588986]

>>3588976
do it until you make it, if you understand the concept and the only problem is the act of drawing it, then there isn't anyway to fix it except do it

[Anonymous No.3588990]

>>3588972
it's fine either way really, in the end. drawing the head first is better for a lot of little reasons though. and the fact that you find it difficult means you probably should be doing the head first because that difficulty is caused by you having a poor understand of the masses and structures of the face. so do it until you're comfortable with it, then you can go back to doing the eyes first.

[Anonymous No.3588992]

>>3588976
draw some boxes from life, draw some boxes from memory. that'll give you a better intuitive understanding.

[Anonymous No.3589016]

how do I draw a paperback book without it looking like a brick

[Anonymous No.3589025]

>>3589016
books do look like bricks if you think about it

[Anonymous No.3589051]

>>3588990
You're right. I need to learn more about the shape of the head, instead of mindlessly drawing eyes like I'm doodling on my school notes. Thanks, anon.

[Anonymous No.3589070]

>>3588553
3 days? hell...no..you truly dont it was a disaster. but even i didnt try no "progress" after mere days. but if u insist...

[Anonymous No.3589071]

>>3589070
wayment.

[Anonymous No.3589075]

>>3589071
this was some time in june/ early july of last year. i dont consider this "as counting" because i didnt start for real until december. i had them all in a drop box and it didnt have the original dates on them.

[Anonymous No.3589092]

>>3589075
but why the lactation

[Anonymous No.3589099]

>>3589092
Because he has patrician fetiches desu.

[Anonymous No.3589100]

>>3589075
what the fuckkkk kek

[Anonymous No.3589102]

>>3589099
excellent question; i dont know. but whatever the context was at this point in time, it was necessary.....apparently.

[Anonymous No.3589105]

>>3589099
heh its true to an extent

[Anonymous No.3589122]

>>3588794
pls respond

[Anonymous No.3589124]

>>3589122
you already quit before you even started, so...

[Anonymous No.3589127]

>>3589124
>>3589122
pls respond

[Anonymous No.3589130]

>>3589127
Just draw. Seriously.

[Anonymous No.3589132]

>>3588794
yes you're wrong about the lines

drawing with the right side of the brain is fun and a good introduction, just follow the lessons and don't worry about the text,

fun with a pencil won't give you bad habits

[Anonymous No.3589133]

>>3589130
im pulling your leg anon. im just making this other guy seem like more of an asshat

[Anonymous No.3589219]

>>3588976
>I can’t free-hand boxes at all, the bottom always fucks me up. What do?

Can you draw a straight line, a C curve, or an S curve? If you can draw these lines, you can draw anything. If you lack the motor skills to confidently draw those kinds of lines, you can rotate the page..

[Anonymous No.3589338]

can anyone recommend me a book on perspectives?
a lot of people are recommending video courses but I really don't like paying for something I'll lose once I stopped paying for it, and I suck at pirating

[Anonymous No.3589378]

>>3588680
is that tablet good?

[Anonymous No.3589386]

>>3589338
https://archive.org/details/PerspectiveMadeEasy

[Anonymous No.3589392]

What u guys think?

[Anonymous No.3589399]

>>3587331
Depends. If you just want to steal a good color palette, it might be a good idea to sketch in just the small section of the color wheel you start in. If I'm just doing a study, I mostly just look to see whether something is in light or shadow, and if I should make it cool or warm. I don't care about color accuracy to the study unless that's what I'm going for

[Anonymous No.3589400]

>>3589392
I think you should at least rotate the image 90 degree to the left

[Anonymous No.3589401]

>>3587331
Also I don't blend or use soft edges. You can't mix digital paint.

[Anonymous No.3589405]

>>3589400

[Anonymous No.3589407]

>>3589400
anon...

[Anonymous No.3589416]

>>3589405
>>3589407
My bad I meant 180 degrees

[Anonymous No.3589419]

>>3589416
you weren't good at math right?

[Anonymous No.3589423]

>>3589419
my bad, I actually meant 360 degrees

[Anonymous No.3589431]

>>3589400
Kek

[Anonymous No.3589440]

drawing some birds

[Anonymous No.3589442]

>>3589440
bretty good

[Anonymous No.3589452]

>>3589440
Nice lines. Got moar?

[Anonymous No.3589462]

>>3589440
nice but why do thin lines have so much aliasing on tablets. drives me crazy

[Anonymous No.3589479]

Here one right way round. I hope

[Anonymous No.3589480]

>>3589479
I hope you're memeing anon

[Anonymous No.3589481]

>>3589479

[Anonymous No.3589482]

>>3589479
Is your helmet on too tight? Lemme give you a hand.

[Anonymous No.3589485]

>>3589481

[Anonymous No.3589487]

>>3589452
sure. here are some bunnies and some rocks

[Anonymous No.3589488]

Thanks guys i effed up lol

[Anonymous No.3589496]

>>3589479
>>3589480
>>3589482
Thanks guys xD

[Anonymous No.3589563]

/beg/ also doubles as /adv/, right? Will I be better off starting Loomis first or Perspective Made Easy? I semi-know (some) perspective with no real problem, shapes and things, anything like a room or landscape and I spill spaghetti everywhere, I just know what's right or wrong (shape related) because I practiced them an autistic amount years ago. I couldn't tell you exactly why or how it works, I just know when it works and when it doesn't.
Drawing people is where I really want to improve, but I tried Loomis once before and memed myself with the angles. For example when you draw the face from top down or bottom up, they just looked like I had drew them front on, but they ended up with big foreheads or big chins, then I got pissed off and took a break from it.
What I'm thinking is, because I "know" perspective better than faces/anatomy, I should be able to work through Perspective Made Easy a lot quicker and I won't have that hanging over me. I have a lot of books to go through, but the more I have the more daunting it seems. Therefore my logic is to do the ones I'll struggle less with so the book pile won't seem so large and daunting. On the other hand I don't know if this is the right method because I might be doing things that I don't need to know without first knowing the basics.
Someone send halp.

tl;dr Loomis or Perspective Made Easy, what's best to start with?

[Anonymous No.3589569]

>>3589563
perspective, with correct perspective ugly people are just ugly people, without correct perspective they become fundamentally impossible things

[Anonymous No.3589583]

>>3589569
Thank you for your help and speedy response fren, perspective it is.

[Anonymous No.3589595]

[Anonymous No.3589600]

>>3589595
Did you divide the face into thirds and check for proportions? Because your eyes should be at the midpoint of the head, but yours are much higher.

(Also, watch out for the difference between the "face" and the "head" for proportions. The face begins at the hairline, there's a bit of head above that, meaning eyes are in the middle of the *head* but not the face).

[Anonymous No.3589716]

>>3586611
As a thumbnail on mobile, it looks great.

[Anonymous No.3589800]

uuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhh...

I might give it another try with less sporty shoes

[Anonymous No.3589808]

>>3586196
This is my first attempt at drawing anatomy.
How do you guys break it down into simple shapes ?
I just end up drawing the thing whole, although I have started to practice loomis a little.
Plz no bully, I am making a genuine attempt to get better, even if it's just a little, so feedback would be greatly appreciated.
1/2

[Anonymous No.3589809]

>>3589808
2/2

[Anonymous No.3589811]

>>3586196
Anyone here who has studied backs?
The idea is to draw the upper half kinda sideways, and the lower half pointing towards the viewer
Thanks in advance

[Anonymous No.3589819]

First figurative painting, closeup, WiP, actually pretty satisfied with it.

[Anonymous No.3589842]

I can make decent straight lines and decent ellipses and squares and I can easily construct anything from the start of "Fun with a pencil" but I can't help but feel uncomfortable every time I want to draw
why is this happening to me

[Anonymous No.3589858]

>>3588976
I’m this guy.

I messed around and started to get it, but then went back to doing faces and progressed to trying to do full figures. I’m obviously still a beginner, like day two new but these are a couple of my better scribbles

[Anonymous No.3589859]

>>3589858
Any feedback would be cool. I feel like all there is to say though at this point is “keep drawing until you get good” lol

[Anonymous No.3589861]

>>3589859
I feel like I fucked up the line work on that last one but Inhad to try it on something

[Anonymous No.3589864]

>>3589861
That last one started as a pair of eyes and I worked out until I had a whole head. Sorry for the sideways images, not sure why it’s happening but probably because I’m phone posting.

[Anonymous No.3589866]

>>3589864
I like how the two alternative girls turned out, the middle one reminds me of that demon chick from Ugly Americans but that wasn’t intentional.

This was my attempt at doing a male using the triangle method. Second attempt at line work

[Anonymous No.3589882]

>>3589842
either the feel of failure or drawing something bad
or maybe you draw really tense and not loose
which make drawing less fun and more of a chore

[Anonymous No.3589887]

>>3589858
I suggest that you start with Draw a Box so you can learn how to draw confident lines
build up from that
you can do it anon

[Anonymous No.3589889]

>>3589858
>>3589859
>>3589861
>>3589864
>>3589866
No offence, but are you really trying ?
Genuinely, are you thinking about how these should look, planning them out on the paper before drawing or are you pumping these out on the fly every five seconds without thinking about how it should look first ?
Either way, obligatory:
Look at references, practice actual anatomy, analyse what went right or wrong in your sketches, aim to improve.

[Anonymous No.3589903]

I practicing head shape from angle, over and over, I am kinda lost, am I practicing right?

[Anonymous No.3589909]

>>3589378
it works fine in every other program. I don't have an intous or cintiq to compare it too, but I don't have any issue with it and its half the price.
>>3588791
which version and do you have a good site to pirate it from? I use cs6 just because I don't have to go through the hasle of trying to crack CC, which is easy to fuck up.

[Anonymous No.3589917]

Second day :')
>>3588877
Thanks!

[Anonymous No.3589926]

>>3588657
Second day :')
>>3588877
Thanks!

[Anonymous No.3589942]

>>3589809
Its very off but you are getting there. Drop by drop you get a piddle so keep at it

[Anonymous No.3589948]

>>3589903
Learn the proforma first in order to be able to get creative.
Portrait
Profile
Three quarter
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pHXQIqMYPPg&feature=youtu.be#

[Anonymous No.3589994]

So I heard you have to learn to copy before you're able to create. Now how the fuck do I do that? My end goal is just to draw trashy anime shit so that's not even aiming that high.

Right now I'm working through Keys to Drawing and just using the things I learned from it to xcopy art from people I like on twitter.

Also how accurate is this image to follow?

[Anonymous No.3589998]

I did this from the first exercise in Keys to Drawing

does it look how it's suppose to look?

[Anonymous No.3590005]

How badly did i do, and what can i improve on?

[Anonymous No.3590035]

>>3589889
I’m trying, but not quite like that. I don’t know how they’re going to look when I start. I just start with a triangle figure of head circle and start adding in details to see what happens.

Thanks, I’ll try doing something from a reference maybe and try to go into it with a plan and see what happens.

[Anonymous No.3590037]

I am using ArtRage 5 and I finished drawing a skull, but I would like to know what to type in or to look at at WHAT WAY to go about trying to shade it in-in what order the layers should be.

Every time I try to use the the multiply blend mode every time I go over the previous colour that I put down gets darker than the one before it, I feel that I can't get any control over what way I want some basic frigging shading to come out.
Everything is photoshop but I have ArtRage.

I just wanted to try and put in some shading to make it look a bit more appealing but it just doesn't look right.

Can someone tell me what to do so I can try to figure this out?

[Anonymous No.3590041]

>>3589942
Thanks

[Anonymous No.3590049]

>>3590035
It's not like it has to be precise but I always find it's better to take a few moments to imagine what the basic form should look like depending upon the pose and angle, not that it's also bad to do quick doodles though, as long as your enjoying it.
Keep going anon, anyone can improve and you'd be surprised how much better you can envision things after a few weeks of practice.

[Anonymous No.3590060]

Ive practiced a few hours since these.
>>3586206
>>3586230
>>3586280

This color/shape study took me 1:30. Struggling with sharp color changes around edges of objects and especially when it goes from a light warm to dark cold. Any tips?

>ref
https://buzzerg.com/wp-content/uploads/8589130594629-rock-cave-canyon-wallpaper-hd.jpg

[Anonymous No.3590081]

>>3587822
thanks for brushes anon. I like em. But still dont know how to use more than 1 brush in a single piece.

[Anonymous No.3590099]

>>3590060
i don't think you should use transparent brushes, it just makes everything muddy.

[Anonymous No.3590105]

>>3590099
How do I blend colors and shades without transparency?

[Anonymous No.3590117]

>>3590105
don't blend. you can't mix digital paint anyway. have you ever painted in gouche? gouche doesn't "mix," yet you can still get gradients through careful transitions of value and temp. right now you're just putting paint on the canvas because you're trying too hard to copy, just put paint where it needs to be. if it's dark, make it dark. try doing tonal studies with just a few values and coming back to painting in color.

[Anonymous No.3590118]

I started with silhouette rather than gesture and structure but I don't know if it worked out. Often times when painting digitally I feel that form becomes "emergent", created from an iterative process of adding layers and repainting the lighting until something comes out that makes sense.

[Anonymous No.3590120]

>>3590118
forgot to post image

[Anonymous No.3590122]

>>3590118
you can do whatever method works for you as long as your method has a clear structure built on 3D forms if you want to create representational art. you can start with sils and drawover to create structure, or start with drawing and throw big shapes onto your drawings.

>>3590120
for this, nothing is very clear. there's no interesting shapes, everything is just one big blob.

[Anonymous No.3590125]

>>3590122
yeah, thought so.

[Anonymous No.3590129]

>>3590117
Never painted before. Ill try some b/w scenes then as thats what Im gathering from "tonal study".

Im currently using photoshop, which is kinda unintuitive for color mixing as far as i can tell. Is there better software i should use to paint with?

[Anonymous No.3590134]

>>3590129
this is kind of what i mean. clear seperation of values. go check out the craig mullins painting course on schoolism. it's up on cgpeers.

[Anonymous No.3590135]

>>3590129
also i use photoshop, it works fine.

[Anonymous No.3590140]

there is something not right here and i can't put my finger on it

[Anonymous No.3590142]

>>3590140
also how do i draw a chainmail?

[Anonymous No.3590152]

Drew this a couple hours ago.

[Anonymous No.3590153]

>>3590140
clean up those lines

[Anonymous No.3590156]

>>3590153
just finished this up, gonna work on it some more tomorrow

[Anonymous No.3590164]

>>3590152
The length of the palm should be the same as the length of the fingers. Your palms are much shorter than your fingers.
(Also watch out when measuring this, the finger starts at the middle of the knuckle, not at the fold of skin or where the webbing between the fingers ends).

[Anonymous No.3590185]

I like this thread

[Anonymous No.3590187]

Lately I've been trying to imrpove my lines and lineart a little since I was always disappointed with it.

Any sort of feedback is appraciated even if you're going to tear me a new asshole, I would appraciate feedback on the lines the most since that's what I focused on but if you feel like something else is even more terrible, feel free to point it out.

[Anonymous No.3590198]

i have a big issue with this im interesed with the drawing but im not love the art and also im never was that person who always drew in the classroom and that shit in fact im an absolute beginner i feel you must to love the art to be good on this, for me that is the real talent, thing what i dont have, i only have a superficial interest to be honest, i just want draw my oc and anime shit but i dont feel that "atraction" what i should do? leave this and focus in another hobby?

[Anonymous No.3590210]

I have a 24" monitor because I was convinced to get the best out of 1080 gaming is a 24" monitor -- what sized montior do you guys use? My photoshop canvas feels so small. Did anyone else suffer from this going from traditional to digital, and if so, how much do pen monitors help?

Thanks and I'm sorry if this isn't the thread for these questions.

[Anonymous No.3590230]

>>3590187
There's various ways to do line, pick an artist with linework you really like and I'll try my best to give you pointers on what they do and if you've achieved their technique or could do something different.

[Anonymous No.3590234]

>>3590198
please respond

[Anonymous No.3590237]

I want to be an ass master

[Anonymous No.3590255]

>>3590237
>the distance between her greater trochanter and knee is nearly as long as the distance between her greater trochanter and the top of her head
I seriously hope you're fucking up proportions hilariously on purpose.
As for the butt, you drew the pelvis tilted with the bottom plane visible (which is a normal alignment), but failed to represent the muscles that originate from the illiac crest as following the top edge of that side plane.
Also, adding the gluteal fold never hurts, it's usually going to affect the form more than the muscle will.

[Anonymous No.3590263]

>>3590255
Thanks for the help, will look into these things. Also didn't mess proportions up on purpose I just didn't really measure anything and I guess my eyes failed me.

[Anonymous No.3590274]

im working on proportions and shit along with figuring out heads; with this being said; did i do better with loli proportions here?
or the next one.

[Anonymous No.3590275]

>>3590274
if im close i'll continue to head in said direction bit by bit

[Anonymous No.3590289]

>>3590275
This one is the more realistic

[Anonymous No.3590293]

i can't seem to get the eyes of animals right, nor the shading for fur

[Anonymous No.3590296]

>>3590293
here's something that helps me out when it comes to things like that. i tell myself "dont be afraid of details"

>>3590289
thanks anon. so i gotta keep that "frame" in mind. i'll keep at it.

[Anonymous No.3590298]

>>3590296
>>3590293
huh, you should be afraid of details, you should work very macro to micro and focus on the big picture before going anywhere near detail
for fur especially its too easy for beginners to fall into the trap of drawing individual hairs like anon did. work in blobs of value and treat the fur like a texture - more visible in the half tone (where the light parts meet the shadowed parts on an object)

[Anonymous No.3590300]

>>3590296
But his problem is that he immediately jumps to adding individual hairs onto the most basic forms, instead of working gradually from big > medium >small masses.

[Anonymous No.3590302]

>>3590296
>>3590298
so more like this? ignore the eye, that was just... irreparable

[Anonymous No.3590314]

Working in paint.net. tired of getting yelled at for making anime tiddies/ass

[Anonymous No.3590334]

>>3590314
she is melting?

[Anonymous No.3590340]

Does the cycle of self doubt and unjustified confidence ever end.

[Anonymous No.3590341]

>>3590334
When I was in 7th grade my English teacher's ass was so fat it would spread in this fashion.
Ms.Knaub, you awakened my sexuality...

[Anonymous No.3590356]

it's not fun anymore, do i stop?

[Anonymous No.3590357]

>>3590356
was it ever about having fun?

[Anonymous No.3590358]

>>3590357
when i was a kid it was.

[Anonymous No.3590360]

>>3590358
are you a kid?

[Anonymous No.3590361]

>>3590360
emotionally, i guess.

[Anonymous No.3590362]

>>3590361
then you can stop now, you will achieve nothing if you don't expect anything from yourself

[Anonymous No.3590364]

>>3590362
thanks. i think that's more or less what i wanted to hear.

[Anonymous No.3590367]

>>3590198
You don't necessarily have to be 'in love' with art or creativity to develop an artistic skill, but it definitely helps you. Too many artists develop a singular point of focus and neglect other less interesting fundamentals.

Honestly if you only want to draw a few things you will find drawing and painting to be an incredibly boring and unfulfilling hobby.

[Anonymous No.3590371]

>>3589994
take ur screen
Put it flat on the table
Put a piece of paper on top
Copy
The image is a general outline of skills

[Anonymous No.3590374]

>>3590005
Its real nice anon
>turn image
>highlight on her hair looks like a square

[Anonymous No.3590376]

how big are the planes on the sides of the ball you draw when making a head supposed to be? i dont mean how they shrink and expand depending on the angle i mean how big they are standard wise

[Anonymous No.3590379]

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
ERNEST NORLING KEEPS TELLING ME TO PLACE BOOKS ON MY DESK

[Anonymous No.3590383]

>>3590367
>Honestly if you only want to draw a few things you will find drawing and painting to be an incredibly boring and unfulfilling hobby.
so i drop out?

[Anonymous No.3590384]

made this in a tegaki a little while ago.

[Anonymous No.3590386]

>>3590384

[Anonymous No.3590388]

>>3590384
>>3590386

[Anonymous No.3590389]

>>3590384
>>3590386
>>3590388

[Anonymous No.3590390]

>>3590384
>>3590386
>>3590388
>>3590389

[Anonymous No.3590391]

>>3590384
>>3590386
>>3590388
>>3590389
>>3590390

[Anonymous No.3590392]

>>3590391
stop shithead

[Anonymous No.3590399]

>>3590198
Do you think Hank Hill had a love for propane from the womb? Love and appreciation is an acquired taste, it is developed. Some people click with it better, others don't and sometimes never.

>>3590383
Like most things in life, try it and if you don't like it, drop it...unless you're paying for it
Never pay for anything you're not completely informed on or interested in.

[Anonymous No.3590407]

>>3590399
ok, thanks for the advice.

[Anonymous No.3590411]

>>3590383
there is no risk in pursuing a hobby, but there is ALOT of regret if you never try and years later down the line you realize you wasted your life not doing what you wanted to do. I say give it a shot, and if it starts to click then you know you're going down the right path. Sometimes it just takes a few false starts.

[Anonymous No.3590413]

what do you guys think? i drew this from a figurine in my desk

[Anonymous No.3590417]

is this right?

[Anonymous No.3590418]

>>3590413
captured the cuteness

[Anonymous No.3590419]

>>3590413
your forms all look nice! maybe add some kind of horizon line so your lil buddy isnt floating in space

[Anonymous No.3590421]

>>3590417
if youre having trouble with some of those proportions add a jaw and a neck shape, its hard to really visualize it from just a ball.

also done be afraid to freehand some of these lines! using ellipse and line tools in your program is a crutch and probably doing more harm than good

[Anonymous No.3590423]

are there any laser pointer rulers out there?
My sketchbook has this spiral ring bound and it's driving me nuts
I can't use any ruler worth using because shit blocks it

[Anonymous No.3590430]

>>3590423
never mind, I just used the shadow of a string as a ruler, worked better than I expected

[Anonymous No.3590432]

>>3590417
relative to?
if you're asking about accuracy, no, i don't think a ball or a head looks like that

bad jokes aside, >>3590421 listen to this guy
and also, no, it's not right, the horizontal line on the left goes up too far to make sense on a sphere
You need to focus more on how these lines interact in real 3D space, rather than neat it looks or if it's accurate to whatever how-to illustrations.

[Anonymous No.3590434]

Trying to emulate a quasi-manga style because I like how shading and lighting are done in them. I think I fucked up the neck.

[Anonymous No.3590439]

>>3590411
>>3590399
thanks for respond

[Anonymous No.3590443]

>>3590434
if you're aware of what you messed up why not fix it?

[Anonymous No.3590449]

[Anonymous No.3590450]

>>3590417
Every line is out of wack and worst of all you did not even bother to do the circle yourself.

[Anonymous No.3590451]

Hmm

[Anonymous No.3590452]

>>3590451
Proportions obviously. And you got your pelvis the wrong way around; it's supposed to tilt slightly forward.

[Anonymous No.3590455]

>>3590452
Thanks. Note taken

[Anonymous No.3590457]

>>3590417
The centre face line and the line on the side of head need to be parallelll
>ignore hates and heed their advice
>4chan
>try your best
>get bullied

[Anonymous No.3590460]

Bake a new one plz

[Anonymous No.3590486]

am I doing it right?

[Anonymous No.3590488]

>>3590486
I'd advise you to choose a better reference if you're just starting out

[Anonymous No.3590504]

>>3590486
Trace loomis on the reference.

[Anonymous No.3590509]

>>3590508
>>3590508
>>3590508

NEW THREAD

[Anonymous No.3590607]

>>3588077
I don't know how you managed to get that far with such shit confidence in your own lines. Shouldn't you, at this point know the basic shape of things well enough to pull lines easily?

[Anonymous No.3591033]

>>3587106
skin colours

[Anonymous No.3592755]

>>3590486
obviously not
are you blind?