Stop the anime BS and go Traditional like a king

[big papa No.3573596]

Ok boys, its time to talk one on one with everyone here...
The real art must reborn, stop the anime shit, no wonder anime paintings don't sell well.

But the landscapes/still-lifes/figure oil/acrylic paintings sell like hot cakes.

Let me tell you something...
When you guys try to imitate Mangakas(Japanese manga artists) and copy their crap, you just make yourself earn less money and respect, fuck it, we have our own history of art, we should paint a real traditional masterpiece, sell it, count the fucking dollars!

Don't let the Jap anime fool you.
Don't lick their balls because you liked a female character from a certain anime episode.
The young Japanese Mangakas are people who jackoff often, never touched a real woman, afraid to talk to a woman, never had an energy to make something good with their life, sitting and drawing manga all day like a beta nerd, (for a very, VERY low money) dreaming of some other lifestyle but not being able to change things.
also dreaming of the Europeans.

(You) should leave these anime girl drawings that will never bring you fame money or real artistic satisfaction! ... Go and create a real traditional art! like your ancestors!
Buy some canvases, make art with love, make real art, people will start to respect you, and you will feel that satisfaction of the real creativity and the fruits it brings as results.

Because now while you drawing anime grils & jacking off to them, you just waste your energy, time, possibilities and life on an illusion that is not fruitful.

[Anonymous No.3573597]

>>3573596
Anime is the future now, get with the time grandpa.

[Anonymous No.3573624]

ok

[Anonymous No.3573646]

>>3573596
The Japanese have understood long ago that the anime industry is just a job, and people only draw mangas and comics to tell a story and practice paneling/figures on the side of actual artistic endeavors. As a result, the more volumes a manga has, generally the art improves or suffer depending on the artist.

Only weaboos shit themselves over anime.

The negative effect of the anime industry for Japan, unfortunately, is a bunch of younger impressionable Japanese citizens becoming herbivores/hikis. Like how western cartoons are becoming more liberal and making their men lean towards neet.

I think the animation industry is subconsciously leaning towards the net positive of the situation though. With neets and hikis they're more likely to go into STEM or passive industries rather than manual labor jobs.

[Anonymous No.3573675]

>Make “real art”
Kek

If you can’t make money off your anime art, you’re doing it wrong

[Anonymous No.3573683]

>>3573596
Old white men invented anime. The japs just perfected it. It doesn't belong to them anymore... Nothing stops you from learning the language to steal their secrets just as they stole the white man's.

[Anonymous No.3573731]

>>3573596
people learn to draw what they like, it no use to grind and grind for the thing you have no passion for
so get off your high horse and let people learn what they want
I don't even like animu shit

[big papa No.3573742]

>>3573675
I talk about real money, not your 5$ to 25$ "commissions open :3" crap
We, real artists, laugh at your commission prices.

It's time to staph! you have the ability to change your life! boy

[big papa No.3573751]

>>3573731
Shut the pfuck up!
>People should be able to draw what they want faggot jelly snot shit.
You just want to see more hentai, dang boy.

I used to be an anime jackoff myself, long time ago, after a long time of suffering and evolving everything is changed, and when I see these poor artists anime jackoffs, my heart breaks, they work alot and get so little. with a very low artist satisfaction, so its time for them to know the truth about things! my boy.

[Anonymous No.3573752]

>>3573596
I'm black and I try to emulate ancient chinese art. What do you have to tell me?

[Anonymous No.3573756]

>The young Japanese Mangakas are people who jackoff often, never touched a real woman, afraid to talk to a woman, never had an energy to make something good with their life, sitting and drawing manga all day like a beta nerd, (for a very, VERY low money) dreaming of some other lifestyle but not being able to change things.
also dreaming of the Europeans.

That sounds like me except dreaming of Japanese.

Neat OP. I'm gonna make it!

[big papa No.3573758]

>>3573597
I highly doubt that... from my perspective, anime has no future. only present.
You can become a real faggot boy and say
>the future now.
And you can be a really big ass mustache artist like me and count the fucking money like a jwwish banker! while I'm drinking scotch in my workshop, my boy.

The choice is yours. faggy boy.

[big papa No.3573772]

>>3573756
Do it boy!
The real Artist's life is the sweetest job there is!
If you're doing things the right way, everything will be better.

When I became a traditional artist, the life became sweet and everything went a very interesting way for me. the life became interesting, my boy. (and ofcourse the money)

[Anonymous No.3573773]

Real art is whatever the fuck the artist wants to draw, shitter. Now draw something instead of being a shitter.

[Anonymous No.3573787]

>>3573596
Why are you traditionalfags so mad at anime like how vegans hate anyone not vegans.

[big papa No.3573788]

>>3573752
It doesn't matter what style, what you need to do is to exhibit everywhere, the number of artworks and exhibitions should be very big.

the quality of ar is very important, but in today's cruel-business-world whats more important is the market, and your signature, should blink everywhere as much as possible. boy.

So the amount of artwork circulate in the market, is what actually makes your name worth.

If you have a 3 genius masterpieces, you'll have a very hard time selling them.

But if you have 4000 artworks (even if average level), you have a chance.
The market needs to eat. there should be a decent amount of artworks with your signature.
So the real talent (today) is the ability to work alot, paint fast (and good).
My boy, if you make 1 artwork in a week, it'll be hard to get noticed.

[big papa No.3573793]

>>3573787
Were talking face to face my boy, being an anime jackoff is not a good/respectful life.

Nothing to do with vegans, boy. we make history here, boy.

[Anonymous No.3573796]

>>3573731
this
suck a cock OP

[Anonymous No.3573799]

I wonder if the sort of person to boomerpost/schizopost really is genuinely retarded in real life too

[Anonymous No.3573811]

Op is a fag but telling some truth.

If you have a practical goal of what you want to do with anime then go for it. Keep drawing anime if you are just doing it for fun too. But if you are serious about making a living out of art then you better make sure you reevaluate your decision instead of realizing you fucked up all the years you could have spent making a career out of something more practical.

I sell several oil paintings every week for a minimum price of $700 some bigger canvases sell for $2000- 3000. And I've only been painting traditionally for 2 years. Artists who are good at their craft and marketing sell up to $30,000k. When demand grows you raise your price!

You also get to spend enough time on one piece instead of grinding many drawings. I dont know what i was thinking going digital when i started.

But if anime or any other styles of digital art is what you really want to do, you do you, but make sure you have alternatives if you are risking your livelihood on it.

[Anonymous No.3573815]

>>3573811
I've done 100 paintings this year, 600 paintings in the past seven years, 1500 drawings, and only made about $3500 from them. Should I kill myself? Pic related is one of my paintings.

[Anonymous No.3573816]

>>3573811
I sold this large painting for $600, it was the best painting I did that year and the only one I was able to sell. If only 1 in ever 300 paintings sell, and they're my best ones, and I only sell them for a few hundred dollars, how am I expected to make a living doing this?

[Anonymous No.3573817]

>>3573816
Forgot pic

[Anonymous No.3573818]

>>3573817
This painting also sold for $500, but again it was the best painting I did that year, and that was 6 years ago

[Anonymous No.3573819]

>>3573817
Would buy that if I had 600$, good job man.

[Anonymous No.3573821]

>>3573818
I also only have 7 followers on twitter and 40 on instagram, and I tag all my work but the only people that ever like it are bots

[Anonymous No.3573828]

>>3573815
I think you need to work on your skill a bit more first but i cant say more until you answer these questions.
>do you only take commissioned portraits?
>do you spend any time composing a painting and figuring out what the painting is about?
>do have a target audience you are trying to sell to?
>what do you actually do to market your work? People arent gonna throw money at you if you are not showing your work online...

[Anonymous No.3573838]

>>3573828
I don't get commissions, I don't spend much time composing my paintings outside of finding poses and setting up objects exactly how I want them and then painting them exactly how they are, a lot of my conpositional problems I solve by organizing what I'm looking at and then I just place it on the canvas how it is in front of me. My target audience is people interested in traditional subject matter painted in a unique way. I market my work by posting everything I do on social media and entering shows in my area, as well as drawing and meeting as many local people as I can, but again I have very few people who follow my work, none of which are actually interested in buying anything. My prices range from $50-$2000 depending on the commission the institutions I display at take, the time I take on the work, and the quality of the individual piece, and I'd like to think I price things reasonably. I just can't seem to sell anything or make any kind of impact in local art scenes or online ones. A lot of local older artists ignore me, are hostile, or flat out don't like me, especially when I win shows or get a lot of paintings into places they consider their territory, even though nothing I get in shows ever sells even when it wins.

[Anonymous No.3573847]

I draw.

[Anonymous No.3573849]

>>3573742
>mfw thats all you know about making money with anime art


But uh anyway this is fair >>3573811

[Anonymous No.3573854]

>>3573838
The works you posted here are all over the place in subject matter and style. I wouldnt be able to tell which paintings you did just by looking at it. Which is one of the main thing you notice with artists that sell well. Their "style" and subject matter generally is constrained and even if they paint something experimentally they usually dont post it. They develop a certain aesthetic and stick with it. Go look at Ashley Longshore's portfolio. Even though /ic/ would shit on her works, she sells her pieces for 30k and has made millions. You would easily be able to identify her paintings and also her target market is very specific and not general and unconstrained like the one you wrote. You dont need galleries if you are willing to talk to people and are extroverted. People generally dont buy art from an artist they just found on instagram. They usually buy after following me after a long time and eventually they will see something they see and tell me they need to have it because i have been consistent with my works. Just go to any artists social media who is selling well and compare it to yours, you will easily see what you are doing wrong. That's the best way to learn business as an artist. Which is by modeling what a successful artist is already doing. Analize their artworks as a brand and how they are marketing it.

Anyways i think you need to work on your artwork as a collection of works by considering how each piece stands with your pre-existing works and also develop your business sense.

[Anonymous No.3573862]

>>3573854
Sorry if the typos give you cancer. I typed in a hurry.

[Anonymous No.3573871]

>>3573854
>Ashley Longshore
Her stuff is great. She makes the perfect art to display on your wall, and she is very good at design.

You're right that /ic/ would shit on her. Personally I'm working towards her level of design. I would love to create fan art prints for conventions that people look at and imagine decorating their whole room around.

[Anonymous No.3573883]

>>3573811
Where are the proofs?
Anyone can write story like this.
>I'm digital artist who work in Cygames.
>wall of text
>$50.000k per month

[Anonymous No.3573888]

how about you paint BIG ASS

[Anonymous No.3573898]

>>3573871
Okay hear me out, /ic/ shits on my work too, and I have no money, so if /ic/ shits on your work is indicative of success then I'd be successful. You shitted on my work in your post, even.

If I can paint every subject matter in a distinct style it shouldn't matter what I'm painting because how I'm painting it is unique to me, right? Isn't that a better marketing strategy than defining your work by the subject matter? I'd imagine if I succeed I'll be making billions instead of millions.

[Anonymous No.3573903]

>>3573888
Trippers tell em

[Anonymous No.3574103]

>>3573821
Maybe you're shadowbanned? you'll be surprised how many people are shadowbanned in twitter and even on youtube (google in general).

It makes you invisible for most people in the world.

[Anonymous No.3574104]

>>3573888
If you want to waste a canvas than go ahead.
You won't get anywhere in life with this shit.

[Anonymous No.3574138]

>>3574104
why

[Anonymous No.3574197]

>>3573596
Anime is simplistic so it can be animated

[Anonymous No.3574443]

>>3573811
how did you get started selling?

[Anonymous No.3574446]

>>3573596
post your art

>>3573811
you too

[Anonymous No.3574490]

>>3573596
>The young Japanese Mangakas are people who jackoff often, never touched a real woman, afraid to talk to a woman, never had an energy to make something good with their life, sitting and drawing manga all day like a beta nerd, (for a very, VERY low money) dreaming of some other lifestyle but not being able to change things.
They're me, but better.

[Anonymous No.3574571]

>>3573596
>But the landscapes/still-lifes/figure oil/acrylic paintings sell like hot cakes.

Your mom and aunt only "buy" your paintings out of pity, anon.

[Anonymous No.3574577]

>>3573811
I mean, anime doesn't really have any meaningful industry here in the west, but you make peanuts compared to any successful digital artist simply by nature that you have to sell your paintings locally whereis they sell their service globally.

[big papa No.3574678]

>>3574446

No links on 4chan, my boy. especially not after I exposed the manga jackoffs.
I don't need a group of trolls shitting in my comment section.

[big papa No.3574679]

>>3574571
It's sad to see some boys get that jelly, I'm telling ya boy, you can make almost as much $$ as I make, if only you have the guts to change things.
(it might take about 2 years to take off, but its natural if you're new)

[big papa No.3574696]

>>3574577
>but you make peanuts compared to any successful digital artist.

We're not talking about the super successful artists, like 1 of a million, who was lucky enough to be in the right place and in the right time to get a good level of public relations

We're talking about the other 999,999 artists who create art, love what they are doing, exhibit, sell, try to get noticed, etc, etc.

What you didn't say is that most of the digital artists get like 5$-50$ per month, this is so pathetic it's unbelievable.
And even if you're super good at it, the competition will probably kill you.

The Traditional artist has the whole history behind his back, its a whole culture, the exhibitions, the public relations, the live communication with your clients. people come to visit your workshop, and sometimes pretty girls come too ;) you feel me?
Plus the Traditional artists have the "Original painting" that they can sell for a very, VERY nice price.
Also globally selling original art on the web. (shipping)

And just like the digital artists, the unlimited prints.


My boy, big papa gives arguments, not just talking shit.

[Anonymous No.3574703]

>>3574696
>most of the digital artists get like 5$-50$ per month
I know you created this thread to shitposting for fun and don't draw but come on now.

[Anonymous No.3574714]

>>3573597
whats future anyway?

[Anonymous No.3574729]

>>3573596
>anti porn
Alright I'm with ya
>only in this style
piss off. people shouldn't force themselves to draw in a style they don't like. Heck they should be able to porn too if that's what makes them happy.

[Anonymous No.3574731]

What if anime is actually dying and isn't popular with the 8 to 13 year olds today? Are we booms and zooms clinging onto something kids today see as uncool and would rather watch teen Titans go and Rick and Morty?

[big papa No.3575086]

>>3573818
My boy, if this is one of your best, then it's only the beginning, I painted like that when I was at the beginning of my art career!

But if you somehow managed to sell it for $500, it means that you know places.
And probably good at jewing people.

>>3574703
How do you know it, boy? you can only try to guess it.
I'm a painter, traditional.
The other Trad painters here can confirm some of the things I said about the money and the public relations.

>>3574729
>people shouldn't force themselves to draw in a style they don't like.
>they should be able to porn.

Cut the small talk boy, you only say this because you came here to jack off, but real artists who tried to make porn-art know that they will not get anywhere in this particular career and only lose time & money.

The artists who waste their time on (ur pic) will not get the money I'm getting even on smallest of my works. and I know alot of them on Deviantart. I mean ALOT. they beg people for commisions, working hard and getting peanuts. it is so pathetic that it makes me sad, what happened to my boys.

My boy, the difference between me and you is that I'm an experienced artist, I tried many things before becoming a Trad.

While you probably get all the things from your parents, playing video-games all day and jacking off on 4chan.
What can you teach us? boy, give it up.

[Anonymous No.3575120]

[Anonymous No.3575124]

Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain by Betty Edwards or Keys to Drawing by Bert Dodson?

[Anonymous No.3575182]

>My boy, big papa gives arguments, not just talking shit

[Anonymous No.3575210]

>>3575086
If you genuinely think you're better than me I don't really know what to say. I can just post one of my actual drawings to bytfo so let's do that, here you go

[Anonymous No.3575213]

>>3575210
Here have another one "big papa" you're so genuinely bad you'll never even come close to that one or this one. I'll btfo you as many times as I have to

[Anonymous No.3575217]

>>3575213
"Big papa" won't post his work because he knows mine is better, how sad

[Anonymous No.3575219]

>>3575217
I don't like embarrassing you like this "big papa"

[Anonymous No.3575224]

>draw normal body
uhh hhere comes a weeb
>slap weeb head on body
*sip* not thats some gooood anime

[Anonymous No.3575227]

>>3575219
This guy knows he doesn't have better work than me so he's not posting anymore

[Anonymous No.3575228]

>>3575227
This is REAL art

[Anonymous No.3575229]

brian go take a walk

[Anonymous No.3575230]

>>3575228
Big papa can't into aesthetics, feelsbadman

[Anonymous No.3575233]

>>3575229
I will not be silenced

[Anonymous No.3575280]

>>3574731
Anime is not dying, but it's running out of ideas. I stopped watching because nothing really appeals to my daily life as an American. Which makes sense because Japanese anime is made with a Japanese setting.

Don't get me wrong. I love Japan but it has nothing to do with anime. I hate weeaboos, but Japan is stuck in a frenzy of appealing to them because of the country's internal issues and debt.

Japanese citizens are just not the type to succumb to poor appearances.

[Anonymous No.3575287]

>>3573596
Fuck my ancestors and fuck tradition boomer cuck, anime art is the future of art and I'm embracing these 2d titties like they were real.

Never forget boomercucks that always shit on anime and say that art style isn't viable in western industry are just mad they can't draw anime and know the market is leaving them behind. NO one wants to see your ugly ass realism or no effort flash animations, people want to see well drawn and aesthetically pleasing anime. As long as you're good you'll make it, go get those patreon bucks my lads.

[Anonymous No.3575290]

>>3575287
cringe

[Anonymous No.3575672]

>>3573815
if you had ANYONE pay for this then you found some suckers. Sell them more stuff.

[big papa No.3575673]

>>3575210
>>3575213
>>3575217
You're definitely unbeatable, boy.
That, I will agree with.

>>3575287
>Fuck my ancestors and fuck tradition boomer cuck.

Shut up! boy, *bitchslap*. you need to take a walk, too much hentai damages your brain and the soul.

>go get those patreon bucks my lads.

I've seen tons of anime artist draw hentai to get patreons, and that was a pathetic sight because no one was donating anything to them.
There's only like 30 to 50 hentai-artists
who got the patreon cake, and judging by them people think "hey I could do it too!" but when they try, they see that the competition will kill anyone New. the hentai artist who came first have taken the place and it is over for all the newbies because whoever was ready to give his money to see hentai, has already found what he wanted. so your argument is just another misleading way for my boys.
They could try it, but at the end, they will curse You! for misleading them and making them waste time while they could make cash like me.
My boy. real artist doesn't need to do porn.

The patreon-porn trap has misled alot of my boys, but at the end, they came back.

>NO one wants to see your ugly ass realism or no effort flash animations.

You fool! *bitchslap* Traditional art doesn't mean it necessarily has to be boring photography-like realism, and sure has nothing to do with flash animations (that were mostly inspired by the anime). foolish boy, just how polluted your mind is? don't you see? papa tries to take care of his boys.

[Anonymous No.3575691]

>you cant make big money from weeb art

what about drawing porn for big bucks

[big papa No.3575710]

Boys, you have two choices, You're going to make money, or you're going to jack off to hentai, can't do both, the choice is yours.

I know that I cant to save all of you, but for those who are ambitious, I tell ya, go traditional, one day you will remember me, and thank me from the bottom of your heart.
Because making crappy digital hentai drawings will not promote you as a "Respected artist" and will not give you the money you should have gotten for your work time.

The only thing you will get it a "thank you" comment from the 14 years boys who jackoff for it.

Now here's a tip for my boys, if you go Traditional, there is a theory that the floral theme is the best selling one today.
Use this information, boys.

[Anonymous No.3575910]

>>3573596
Already do it. Creating comics in alternitve art styles. Screw modern anime.

[big papa No.3576015]

>>3575910
At least you're not doing manga shit.
Proud of you, my boy.

[Anonymous No.3576019]

>>3575710
>can't do both
Not with that attitude

[Anonymous No.3576183]

>>3573596
Eh, anime/manga style is alright. It's good for visual storytelling. The only drawback is the stigma and association with weeaboos.
Perverted Japanese humor also doesn't translate well in some countries, but not all of them have it.
I like the style, but yes, I would like to learn other art styles as well.

[Anonymous No.3576199]

>>3573596
1. How much money do you make yearly from your art?
2. Post an example of your best art.

Only, and only then I'll consider listening to you.
Until then, I'll keep doing the exact opposite of what you are suggesting and keep living off my art, like I did so far.
I eagerly await your response.

[Anonymous No.3576206]

>But the landscapes/still-lifes/figure oil/acrylic paintings sell like hot cakes.

Lmao have you caught the retarded muh boi?
Those do not sell for shit. Believe me, I went to a school with people who did nothing but that and they're all doing nothing now.

[big papa No.3576519]

>>3576019
>Not with that attitude
Well, I guess I should rephrase it, you can't do both and be successful! boy.

If you wanna be a successful artist you'll need every drop of energy you have.

[big papa No.3576533]

>>3576199
>1. How much money do you make yearly from your art?
I dont coun't. I waste alot of it without thinking. buying shit, going to places.

>2. Post an example of your best art.
I already said above, no links on 4chan. silly boy!

>Only, and only then I'll consider listening to you.
lol.
>Until then, I'll keep doing the exact opposite.
Haha! boy! I'll have to disappoint you, your attempt to squeeze the information out of me, failed miserably. but boy! thanks for the laugh!

I like you! you're one little funny kid!.

[big papa No.3576542]

>>3576206
>Those do not sell for shit. please Believe me.

Boy! how can I believe you if I sell them.
You know?
If an artist had a good 5-8 years of practice, and he is good at painting landscapes, seascapes, exotic shit, cityscapes, animals, floral... etc. then there should be no problem.

If some artists cant sell their work well, it means they're still raw or they're wasting too much time on fucking video games instead of going to local places and talking to people.

Or they're in a shit-hole small city but also can't use the internet marketing right.

Or unlucky, idk, crap karma. happens too.

[big papa No.3576546]

>>3576183
>Eh, anime/manga style is alright. It's good for visual storytelling. The only drawback is the stigma and association with weeaboos.
>Perverted Japanese humor also doesn't translate well in some countries, but not all of them have it.
>I like the style, but yes, I would like to learn other art styles as well

I feel you, muh boy!

[Anonymous No.3576794]

>>3576533
>opens a thread where supposedly is trying to help people make it
>I'll have to disappoint you, your attempt to squeeze the information out of me, failed miserably.
Yeah, okay. Keep baiting. Your masterplan is perfect LMAO.

[big papa No.3576884]

>>3576794
>Yeah, okay. Keep baiting.

Giving my personal information on 4chan, and helping people to make it, are different things, silly boy! *slap*

[Anonymous No.3577109]

>>3576183
>>3576794
>found the weeaboos in denial

Enjoy being transformed into a softboy through modern anime. How's your gyno doing?

[Anonymous No.3577196]

>>3576884
I didn't ask for your personal info. I asked for proof that you aren't just a troll giving random dumbass advice.
I guess you are unable to prove anything, so tough luck, sensei.
>>3577109
>gorilla alpha male speak
Yeah, you are clearly making a point here, chad.

[big papa No.3577236]

>>3577196
>I didn't ask for your personal info.
>I asked for proof that you aren't just a troll giving random dumbass advice.

You're either a naive little boy or a snake in the grass.
Giving a photo of my works is the same thing because people will immediately image search and find not only my bio but also my adress.
I have a good level of decent public relations web, and all of my info is exposed there. as it should be if youre running a business.

Just read some of the comments above, some Trad artist confirmed what I said.
Example:
>>3573811

>so tough luck, sensei.

My boy, one day you will understand.
Some boys will understand faster and surpass you by miles.
I call it "natural selection".

[Anonymous No.3577251]

>>3577236
You shouldn't worry about me. I am doing fine (currently 60k a year from Patreon).
>You're either a naive little boy or a snake in the grass.
>snake in the grass
That's what I'm saying. You can't prove me you aren't one either. For what I can say you could be a basement dwelling troll baiting.
I guess we'll never know, right, sensei?

[big papa No.3577372]

>>3577251
No one cares what you think boy *bitchslap*x2

[Anonymous No.3577392]

>>3577372
>No one cares what you think boy *bitchslap*x2
Right back at you, nobody.

[big papa No.3577731]

>>3577109
Some of my boys have lost their testosterone.

>sitting on the couch watching tv drinking beer
>jacking off to an imaginary woman
>literally worshipping anime characters

Its sad, boy, it is a catastrophe.
But at the same time, its good, [Natural selection] cleans this planet for us.
The strong survive. my boy.

[Anonymous No.3578471]

>>3573811
>bigger canvases sell for $2000- 3000.
Yyush, that's actually a normal price for a traditional paintings, especially oil, but for the new folks, you need to let the market know about you, before selling something for 2k-3k, first just flow with the lower prices for a couple of years, then people will recognize your signature, you can charge more and more.
After 20 years of work, your painting should worth 10k-33k its a sign that you did everything right.
>>3573838
>$50-$2000 depending on the commission the institutions.
50$? lmao I sell my used palette not less than for 200$ xD
what kind of paintings do you sell for 50$, I'm curious xD
PS: 2k seems more reasonable price for a casual artist.

>pic is random

[Anonymous No.3578479]

>>3578471
where are you selling that you even have buyers? most american cities now are large retirement centers with a market for flower paintings, at best.

[Anonymous No.3578487]

>>3573646
>The negative effect of the anime industry for Japan,
?unfortunately, is a bunch of younger impressionable
>Japanese citizens becoming herbivores/hikis. >how western cartoons are becoming more liberal and making their men lean towards neet.

yeah after simpsons the views on the "Dad" figure changed, now Dad is considered to be lazy, guffy, dumb, low iq and coward.
The "mom" figure became reasonable, adult and smart.

It is fucking scary how one cartoon serial can mess up the whole family structure and effect the whole world.

Sometimes I think that (((cartoons))) are the most effective 'long run' weapon against humans.

Now I understand why Hayao Miyazaki said:
>Anime Was a Mistake.
He saw how the anime culture ruined the Japanese kids and messed up Japan's whole future.
I think that others see it too, but they are afraid to go against a million dollar industry. so they rather just shut up and watch their young generation degenerate.

[Anonymous No.3578489]

I think traditional is extremely overcrowded even more than cg

You have like +600 cg gods but +60 000 top tier traditional artists

[Anonymous No.3578494]

>>3578487
>comparing a single western cartoon to the complicated swamp that is anime & manga culture
>anime culture ruined the Japanese kids
>not capitalist-imperialized Japan
do you even know anything about Japanese culture or are you doing the usual thing on this board of talking the most crap about the things you least understand?

[Anonymous No.3578560]

>>3578494
The question is, does Hayao Miyazaki knows about ̶J̶a̶p̶a̶n̶e̶s̶e̶ ̶ Anime culture?
After all, he said it.

I'm not getting into the political aspect of it because I have no means to go off topic.
But if you want to share some info, please.

[big papa No.3578574]

>>3578489
My boy! it makes sense to me.
More people go the Traditional way because there are more shekels there.

If the Traditional artist life was crap, people would not want to be one. so your statistics just proved the point that Traditional artist is the easy game mode.

Now I bet 98% of the cg artists are struggling to find commisions, lowering their prices, begging people on Deviantart to buy their commissions or whatever.
They might talk to you for months, just to become your "friend" and then ask you to finally buy something.
Using clever tactics and tricks to get a client.
If the cg artist life is so bright, why they have to beg people? boy! this is pathetic.

cg artists be like:
>please, please! someone! hire me! I need to pay the bills! help!
>I'll be your friend just hire me!
>youre a nice guy, I like you, please hire me!

Your only way to Try to prove that I'm wrong is to cherry pick some top of the top gc artists who were active from the beginning.

[Anonymous No.3578631]

>>3578479

Ahlf day artist should paint, the other half day artist should talk to people, go to places.
Surprisingly, sometimes you can exhibit in::
Gym
Shops
Cafe places
(((Think like a jew))):
Give a few free paintings to:
local community center
municipality
Government places
gifts to mayor's wife (in my case).
Do it all to have your signature visible to the people.
If there is a gallery that has a fair offers -use it.
Don't exhibit in a gallery that takes alot of money for a 3-week exhibition, its a waste of your time, and will demoralize you.
(Unless ofcourse there is a big crowd flow)

Open ebay,etsy,printshops FAA/Pixel.com.
Promote your name in youtube/Instagram (record yourself on video for youtube, speedpaint or whatever), even buy fake subscribers to make the illusion that you're successful (important).
Use facebook ads to promote your page, if you do it right, youll have about 11k worldwide likes for 50$. it will make the illusion that youre famous. (also important)
Open redbubble.com
Open Shutterstock. (and similar)
Open deviantart and use fake page views(free) to make the illusion that alot of people visit you.
Just like a successful artist Afremov (pic) did.

Your signature should be easy to read.
Now when someone in your city will consider buying ur art, he will google search your signature, he will see that you're "successful" ;) and the client most likely will be ready to give you his golden coins
*the money I mentioned in the previous reply.

He will not buy your paintings if he feels that you're a loser or a beggar like the cg artists. that is why you need your name to be easy to find, easy to spot, easy to read and he sees all the subs/followers/watchers you have on web, he thinks:
>this guy's art will worth x10 soon, I better buy now a couple of his paintings!
>And fucking sell it later! haha! I'm so smart!

[Anonymous No.3578635]

>>3578631
Continuing:

Also, you should have Bussines cards.
Make alot of them, throw them around in the center, don't be shy, it's your future money.
Throw them everywhere like a garbage, one day they will return to daddy as a client. :)

talk to the local newspaper place, to ask if they can give you a free promotion (like I did and I got a very nice colorful page of my paintings for free)
But even if it's not for free, I think its worth it.

Things that can scare people away:
modern art,
bizarre art,
pervert art,
Anime art, (sad but truth)
too simple annoying abstract shit.
political art.
(Any art that can insult a big amount of people)

If you want to be successful you should know how to lower your Ego, and don't share your political/religios/sexual/ or any other intimate subjects.
Just make good quality art, master it so you can work faster.
Remember bro, before any kind of success, You should lower your ego and create art with love.

>pic is random