Strengths and Weaknesses

[Illastrat No.3569464]

What are they WITH acrylic. Trying to learn the medium.

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[Anonymous No.3569512]

>>3569464
your the most productif troll ic ever had.
What i don't understand is why you don't put that energy into improving for once instead of painting turd after turd.

[Anonymous No.3569548]

>>3569464
Its strength is that it dries fast.
Its weakness is that it dries fast.

Acrylics are cheaper, don’t need spirits, and are easier to clean up. Plus lots of mediums to make the viscosity different. If you can, get like a shallow tray, put a damp paper towel on it. Then use parchment paper over it. Use that for your pallet, and the moisture will allow for longer staying power of the paint.

[Illastrat No.3569795]

>>3569512
I don’t see how I haven’t improved. You sound like one of them racist trolls. How have I not improved, honestly? I have no desire to paint

>>3569548
What’s the strengths and weakness of MY paintings

[Anonymous No.3569800]

>>3569464
I cant tell the difference between your oils and acrylic.

[Anonymous No.3569801]

>>3569795
listen to me Illastrat. im black. and i can tell you that these peoples criticisms are not based on the fact that you are. its because they think your work is shit.

to be real for a second, your work already deviates from standard realism so its always going to look unnatural and not anatomical, but your colour choices and compositions are not interesting. which wouldnt be so bad but you keep talking bullshit around in circles trying to justify your art being the way it is.

if people are giving you criticism, take it and dont argue about why their wrong.

why do i even reply to all your fucking threads. you inspire some irritating emotions ill give you that. keep it up

[Illastrat No.3569807]

>>3569801
Again....it deviates from realism because I am not going for realism. This is obvious. Realism is just one of many styles. Also a lot of people like my shit. It’s only a handful that hate.

[Anonymous No.3569808]

>>3569801
pretending to be black is a little bit uncool dude, bit cucky

[Illastrat No.3569809]

>>3569807
You are not black. Post some of your work.

[Anonymous No.3569816]

>>3569808
>there are no black artists on /ic/ except Illastrat

[Anonymous No.3569831]

I personally like your style and composition, I'd say be a little more careful putting the eyes on , like 2/4 of the examples you put have wonky crossed eyes, especially the bottom right. That and read some color theory. A well painted picture that is largely yellow and brown is less appealing than one with more harmonious color combinations.

[Illastrat No.3569840]

>>3569831
Cool. And how am I to paint black people if I should use brown?

[Illastrat No.3569842]

>>3569840
*should not

[Illastrat No.3569856]

>>3569800
Above are my acrylics. This is my oil. Big difference

[Anonymous No.3569872]

>>3569840
because black people arent just brown

reflect on lighting, consider the way light reacts with darker skin. You dont just see brown, you see deep mahoganys and rosy hues in contrast and lighter tans and cream colors in highlighted areas.
You can even incorporate blues and purples into it, look at artists like Kerry James Marshall or Horace Pippin.

If you aren't going for realism then why do your paintings of black people have to be BROWN and OTHER SHADES OF BROWN?

[Illastrat No.3569880]

>>3569872
Nowhere in color theory do they say, don’t use brown. I don’t know where you are but look around u. What do u see? Mostly earth tones and NEUTRAL colors. I’ve already researched this EXTENSIVELY. Most of what you see in nature are NEUTRALIZED BY BROWN. Tan is a brown btw. Also, rarely will you see a purely saturated color

[Anonymous No.3569898]

>>3569880
Bruh, the tree outside my window right now is not even predominantly brown. There are charred greys and flecks of whites and deep greens that are being mixed with the grey/blue contrast of the natural light outside right now.

There IS brown in that tree, and it may be the general base that everything is building on, but there is a lot more going on there.

All I'm saying is you should try to extract more than just brown from the idea of earth tones. The earth is a lot of colors, unless you're like red/green colorblind. Which you very well may be and could explain some things.

I'm not even saying your shit is bad, dude, it just feels kind of lifeless to me.

[Illastrat No.3569919]

>>3569898
No nigga, I am definantly not colorblind. My sight has been revolutionized by advanced theory. You the one telling me not to use brown. Most colors in life are not saturated (neutralized). I didn’t say they were brown but they do have a brownish tint. That green has a brownish tint, that classic art in meusuems is mostly neutralized. I am right, I don’t learned this, I can prove it. What I want to know from you is how I can paint black people without using..lol...Brown!?!

[Illastrat No.3569922]

No bruh, y’all the ones with the problem. I am not colorblind. To prove my point, how many PURELY saturated colors do you see right now. Few? That’s because most of what we see is neutralized. Do you know what this means? They are NOT saturated. That is what I am REALLY trying to say. Look it up if you don’t believe me. The Dutch knew this, so did the Spanish. After Van Gogh, contemporary art got away from this. I’ve learned this from artschool, researched, etc. that green that you see is neutralized. It’s is NOT high chroma. You say something’s wrong with my eyes? It’s actually you that can’t see.

[Anonymous No.3569931]

>>3569919
>My sight has been revolutionized by advanced theory

G E N I U S

[Illastrat No.3569933]

Saying, don’t use brown is the dumbest shit


https://munsell.com/color-blog/mud-understanding-mixing-complementary-colors/

[Illastrat No.3569934]

>>3569931
I am still looking for those saturated colors in nature

[Anonymous No.3569935]

>>3569919
>>3569922
>>3569933

I literally never said don't use brown. My point is not to make it so predominantly brown that it becomes flat and boring.
Which is what your paintings are.
Flat and boring.

[Illastrat No.3569941]

>>3569935
Post your art. I need an example

[Anonymous No.3569946]

>>3569941
I do realism very sparingly (I mostly do toons), and portraiture is definitely not my thing, so I am admittedly not great at it, but I still know that brown poop paintings aren't appealing.

[Anonymous No.3569985]

>>3569946
Lol. Gtfoh

[Anonymous No.3569995]

>>3569985
Hit me with that criticism yo, I can take it, I won't even call you a racist.

[Anonymous No.3570001]

>>3569919
If you don't want to paint realism, then why care about painting in desaturated colours? Van Gogh didn't.
Also, almost all you pictures are copies of 'famous' people from photos. That's what teen girls do.

[Illastrat No.3570080]

>>3569946
Is that watercolor? The colors are so washed.

[Illastrat No.3570084]

>>3570001
Because, I paint BLACK people.

[Anonymous No.3570108]

im not sure what you are arguing about regarding browns but this is a nice harmony of browns in this part

[Illastrat No.3570121]

>>3570108
I am really curious about people’s overall stance of muddy colors. Personally I don’t think they exist. My girl, who is a better technical painter, says I should paint from the tube. I think that is stupid. Some people say I should be mindful of tempature. I just paint. I think people that believe in muddy colors are stupid.


http://gurneyjourney.blogspot.com/2008/05/mud-debate.html?m=1

[Anonymous No.3570122]

>>3570080
its digital, actually, and I'm pretty sure i just took a picture of the tablet i was painting on, which could explain some degree of the washed outedness (again, im no master of anything, but I ain't no Sonic OC drawing /beg/ either)

>>3570108
And my criticism of browns was more or less just kind of reinforcing >>3569831 this guys suggestion of more harmonious color combinations (who NEVER said dont use brown) and a rebuttal of >>3569840 this statement.

Again, never said your art is shit, Illastrat, just giving my two cents on how you might bring a little more life to your paintings. As they are now, they're a little flat and boring.

Your issue is that you take ANY kind of criticism or suggestion that isn't drowned in praises as a personal attack and just decide that your blackness and perceived mastery of all color theory makes you some kind of black art god or martyr.

[Illastrat No.3570137]

>>3570122
No. I honestly asked, how am I suppose draw black people, paint them green? I am asking a serious question. Then we got on a conversation on neutralized colors that I won. Remember you are the one that said less browns and yellows?

[Anonymous No.3570151]

>>3570137
lol the less browns and yellows guy wasnt even me, dude.
But I answered your question.
Try looking at the work of other black artists, especially ones that don't focus on realism, look at how they use deeper cool colors (blues/purples/mahogany) for contrasts and slightly brighter warm colors (roses, peaches, dark creams) for highlights with your different shades of brown in between.
People aren't just a gradient of a single tone, they exist in 3d space with 3d lighting that isn't always a single color and reflects off of other surfaces.

You keep saying you want advice, but you don't read the advice people give and instead focus on 'winning' an argument, which at the end of the day didn't improve your artwork at all.
THIS is why people keep saying you suck, dude, you're an askhole.

[Illastrat No.3570163]

>>3570151
If you didn’t say it, why are you chiming in. I do use other colors. My discussion was to the dude that said no browns and yellows. That BAD advice. You all in the Kool aid, don’t know the flavor.

[Anonymous No.3570203]

>>3570163
Dude are you colorblind AND illiterate?

Nobody ever told you not to use brown. He said, and I quote, "A well painted picture that is largely yellow and brown is less appealing than one with more harmonious color combinations."

Read with your special revolutionized eyes, bruh.

[Anonymous No.3570243]

>>3570163
How much do you make a year? Be honest

[Anonymous No.3570280]

>You all in the Kool aid, don’t know the flavor.

You're either 40, or a white guy with extremely dated references.

[Illastrat No.3570506]

I am sorry. Y’all are right.

[Anonymous No.3570510]

i guess composition requires iq

[Anonymous No.3570992]

I'm this guy >>3570506
I'm not saying don't use brown I'm saying that more colors make the paintings more interesting. I was specificically looking at the top right picture in the OP when I wrote that.
In this post >>3569831 I thinl the bottom right and mid left are the easiest to look at because you have two complementary colors in addition to brown, orange and blue. It makes the whole picture much brighter. Also love the center one but thats just because you got the face just right

[Anonymous No.3570993]

>>3570992
I have the quotes flipped, my bad

[Anonymous No.3571015]

>>3569919
>My sight has been revolutionized by advanced theory
>(neutralized)
>meusuems

[Anonymous No.3571080]

>>3569856
Post reference for top right

[Anonymous No.3571087]

>>3571080
No

>>3570992
Thx

[Anonymous No.3571413]

>>3570108
look at how much more interesting it is with purples and yellows instead of browns and browns

[Anonymous No.3571457]

>>3569809
Biggest cope i've ever seen.
Not the same guy, but he is right. Why do you even respond to trolls?
You could have used that time to actually look at your work.

[Anonymous No.3571465]

They're ugly as shit, acrylic or oil, you suck man.

[Anonymous No.3571491]

>>3569872
There's some certain cases where brown can be used, but more common in sepia and monochromatic paintings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3kfGSsss1w
It can be challenging to apply colors that compliment browns properly.

[Anonymous No.3571534]

>>3569807
>Also a lot of people like my shit. It’s only a handful that hate.
Its the opposite.

[Anonymous No.3571656]

>>3569807
>>3569801
We all know your not going for realism. That wasn't what he was saying. He was saying that BECAUSE of that it always going to look unnatural. That's fine, non realist figure painters show skill in how they deviate from realism. In your case, the deviations just look sloppy/ amateur. Stop using so much god damn black paint I've told you this before. the color relationships are suffering. Dont believe me? Read a book on color theory.
inb4 post work (I'd never post my finished paintings here dont wanna be outed)

[Anonymous No.3571672]

>>3571413
I agree with this. Part of the problem I've had with how to paint darker skin tones is the frustration with getting bogged down in muddy brown colors.

[Anonymous No.3571674]

>>3571672
versus using reds and purps and yellows and junk

[Anonymous No.3571802]

>>3571674
No, I didn't mean to say illustrat should become an impressionist. I meant that illustrat could use different colors than brown that can still represent brown skin