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One of my sister's friends wants to go to art school but her art is incredibly shit. Deviantart-tier. How can I convince her to pick something that will at least get her some money, even if she's not good at that either? I feel kind of guilty for not being as proactive for some of my old friends, and now they have a degree but the best they can do is some $20 tumblr commissions.

>> No.3561663

>>3561662
if she has money who gives a fuck, leave the bluepilled sucker alone

>> No.3561667
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>>3561662
https://noahbradley.com/blogs/blog/dont-go-to-art-school

show her pic related and then the link, it's the dude who painted it
if this doesn't convince her, nothing will

>> No.3561671

Post their work, who knowws, maybe they have some potential to improve.

Art school is extremely expensive, unless of course you're wealthy, then by all means let them go. There's also alternative s for them to improve like going to an altelier(which is cheaper and better than art school) torrenting art books, courses, tutorials through online piracy websites. There's also a great artist by the name of promo who offers free lessons on YouTube, tell them to check him out, oh and also really reconsider spending a shit ton of money on information you could get for free online.

>> No.3561672

>>3561671
Stan prokopenko**

>> No.3561673

>>3561663
If only, we're Midwest trash.

>> No.3561675

>>3561662
>friends brother
Literally who the fuck cares what you think

>> No.3561676

>>3561675
Maybe a NEET like you doesn't understand, but it's possible for your sibling's friends to talk and be friendly to you.

>> No.3561680

Why? Let her go to school and see all of her insanely talented and hard working classmates. She'll either pull herself up by the bootstrap or resign herself to debt filled delusions. It's not like she has the talents to go to actually prestigious art schools anyways, so the debt won't be that bad.

>> No.3561743

>you can become a great artist and successful if you pay this "small" fee
why are art students so fucking dumb?

>> No.3561780

>>3561667
This is the thing I don't get, why do people need an art "degree"

with technical fields its a certificate of bare minimum knowledge, and most companies throw your application away if you don't have one.

with art though, you're supposed to send a portfolio foremost. if anything they look at past experiences rather than degrees first.

>> No.3561811

>>3561662
The point of going to art school is to learn how to be a better artist. A lot of artist enter art school unable to really draw. Your portfolio to get into art school needs to demonstrate that you have the ability to learn, think critically, and that you are at least skilled enough to show that you're serious. It doesn't have to be really good, because your applying to a school to get better. If her friend works their ass off at school, they will excel over "talented" people.

She can do online courses, or see if there are any ateliers/local art businesses that teach classes. That can save her a lot of money. I also suggest she go to an art program at a state school, instead of just go to an art school.

>> No.3562962

>>3561662
Can you post an example of her work?

>> No.3563096

>>3561662
Like others said, if she can't afford it, forget it. Tell her to go to an atelier or a trade school like CDA or brainstorm. Also take online classes from NMA (all of their content is good) or schoolism. She can self study from books to get a start in the foundations, but once the basics are down I would recommend trying to get a mentor/ solid critique group or doing what I said above.

>> No.3563103

Personally being upfront works best, don’t discourage the shit being made but just be logical about it, and make sure you try to have it come off from the right place

>> No.3563123

>>3561662
Is she an anime artist? Tell her to do it as a side thing and that even famous mangaka did non-art things.

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There is absolutely no reason to go to an art school of all things right out of highschool. Tell her to get a part time job and try and build a MAJOR scholarship-worthy portfolio until she's 23 if she's still set on school by that time.

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>> No.3563327

>>3563127
I agree with waiting, a lot of people go into too early art school with out an understanding of themselves as people, and whether or not a career in art is what they truely want.

>> No.3563332

>>3561662
you can pick out a bunch of people in the arts who didn't go to art school, doesn't mean most people didn't.

for example, if you work as an artist on the simpsons then you probably went to calarts, you could take twitter screenshots of the 20% of them who didn't saying, 'no, you don't need to go to calarts to work on the simpsons.' but 80% of them still did.

>> No.3563354

>>3561671
I wouldn't say that ateliers are better, just different. Certainly better for some people, though. I agree with everything you've said though.