shadman art debates

[Anonymous No.3547822]

> serious discussion on shadman art
> few months ago shadman got ban in twitter is that fair for shad ??
>shadman said and done some questionable things but it's fair to silence art cause it's not normal ??

This makes me worried for other artist like shad

[Anonymous No.3547835]

He's a shitty, hateful person and deserves the ban.

[Anonymous No.3547847]

>>3547822
We live in a society of hypocrites. They claim there is no truth and no morality, except when they don't. Stupid fucking animals.

[Anonymous No.3547863]

>>3547822
>debating the fairness of decisionmade by a business.

Twitter is a business. They dont want articles about them claiming they support pedophilia so they will do what is in their best interest.

Same thing with disney. Its not that they are concerned about pewdiepie's nazi jokes or james gunn's pedo jokes, its just their way of avoiding bad press.

[Anonymous No.3547886]

Zzzzzzzzzz...

[Anonymous No.3547893]

shadman is a piece of shit and his art sucks

[Anonymous No.3547904]

Do people actually think Shadman is a Racist Nazi? My god people are fucking retarded.

[Anonymous No.3547907]

>>3547835
You've never heard him talk, have you?

[Anonymous No.3547909]

its the loophole where you employ corporations top shut people down instead of the state, so you can keep banning people all the way to the bank level. So for example a "controversial" enough patreon or twitter analogue will eventually get shut down by IP providers, Banks etc. which will deny service.

I find it real funny that its the left that pioneered this because when the moralist religious fucks come back they'll be putting the screws to them first and foremost

[Anonymous No.3547914]

>>3547893

Sure maybe a piece of shit,but i don't think he is a bad artist

>His anatomy is good (a good understanding of younger and older body )
>Coloring is great
>when he does background is actually surprising good (sadly he doesn't do it often)

[Anonymous No.3549215]

>>3547907
true
>>3547835
forgott to mention he's a 12 yo whom desprately tries not to giggle when he says "tits".

[Anonymous No.3549233]

>>3547914
>His anatomy is good (a good understanding of younger and older body )
When was the last time you saw a real pair of tits, dude? The guy draws them like shitty, stiff implants. His asses also look like they were stapled on. He has no clue how to draw a natural looking female. Not to mention he can't into perspective of spacing to save his life. I'd be fine with all his edgy bullshit if his art was actually decent, but it's not.

[Anonymous No.3549306]

>>3547909
>I find it real funny that its the left that pioneered this because when the moralist religious fucks come back they'll be putting the screws to them first and foremost

Under His Eye, OfAnon.

[Anonymous No.3551236]

>>3549233
>The guy draws them like shitty, stiff implants

He draws characters bimboized. You literally just stated his stylistic choice and the complained about him making a stylistic choice. Should he draw everyone natural looking? Or exactly as-is?

>Not to mention he can't into perspective of spacing to save his life.
Perhaps not, but maybe it's just he doesn't think those other angles are sexy?

[Anonymous No.3551239]

>>3547822
>serious discussion on shadman art
Do you listen to yourself? What's there to seriously talk about concerning that piece of shit?

[Anonymous No.3551256]

It was shocking at one point but now it's just boring and repetitive. Here's a (you) for your low effort posting.

[Anonymous No.3551335]

>>3551236
I'm not gonna defend the other anons point of his anatomy being off because that just retarded his style is hypersexualized 2D art
I feel the reason /ic/ hates him so much is because his work overshadows a lot other artists that have much more skill then he does but will never receive even a fraction the amount of limelight he does
he's the low hanging fruit of art for the layman's view. He appeals to the kids that used to start furry threads on /b/ and theirs nothing wrong with that
the dudes famous can't hate him for that
however my personal reasons for disliking him is his im so edgy persona and constantly being I'm breaking barriers xD and then when it bites him in the ass he backs away and fall into the I'm jus ironic xDD
it leaves a sour taste in my mouth

[Anonymous No.3551344]

>>3549215
you never saw his streams did you.

[Anonymous No.3551352]

> few months ago shadman got ban in twitter is that fair for shad ??

Is it fair to decent people that they should have to tolerate pedotrash in their community? Of course not.

[Anonymous No.3551355]

>>3551335
i agree with everything you said except for the "He appeals to the kids that used to start furry threads on /b/" cause dude has females and shit as fans also his art appeals to nostalgia fags who grew up watching cartoons before it went to shit.

The main reason I hate him is because he tries to sound smart but isn't and everything out of his mouth comes out like a retard.

[Anonymous No.3551379]

>>3547822
First of all
>Not being able to separate art from artist
If you can't do that, just kill yourself. I don't understand discussion about his persona and controversy at all.

Also, his art is not bad at all. He delivers what I wanted to see, mostly, even if he goes overboard with futadicks and pimples everywhere he has enough skill to draw pic related that looks extremely hot. People are either jealous that some dude doing edgy porn gets the money or really are moralfags, both of them don't deserve much respect.

But trying to attack the style choice of someone is lame. I mean, it's totally understandable at the /beg/ level, you don't usually want noobs shielding themselves behing
>Muh style
But Shadman is clearly a pro at what he's doing.

[Anonymous No.3551380]

I am a firm believer in the 1st amendment, all speech (unless said speech is slander as found by a court or needlessly incites panic) should be protected.

Yes this includes speech I don't like and yes this also includes art. I don't make a fuss about hentai, I don't make a fuss about furry art and I don't make a fuss about any art from shadman.

However I'm also a firm believer in allowing a business to make choices. These choices could be to ban someone on your platform or too refuse making a cake to a gay couple. Ultimately capitalism will sort out those who make bad business practices.

So while I personally would never ban shadman, I understand why Twitter would and am not angry they did as it was their right.

[Anonymous No.3553156]

Him being a genuine paedo and other issues aside, he just isn't a good artist. In trying to disguise his painful lack of knowledge in 3& rotation anatomy or perspective he abuses the life out of highlighting, specular lighting and rim lighting, the result being that every single one of his female characters end up looking like pic related.

Him trying to draw male characters on the other hand is just depressing affair. You can tell that he's never really committed to a study not once in his life.

[Anonymous No.3553165]

>>3551379
Thanks for proving everything you typed wrong with your picture.

[Anonymous No.3553177]

Social media in general get wary with porn related content the more they grow. Countries have different variations of laws around what's illegal and what's not, and social medias want to expand as much as possible, and will ban content if it'll mean not getting proibied in some entire countries. Twitter is slowly hiding nsfw content in general, like tumblr did last year

[Anonymous No.3553183]

Twitter is free to do whatever and ban whoever they feel like for any reason, if you don't like it you don't have to use the platform but that's just how it is and there is nothing wrong with this

[Anonymous No.3553186]

>>3551379
>pic related that looks extremely hot
yikes

[Anonymous No.3553193]

>>3551379
I would like to say something along the lines of "how would you feel about a sexual predator systematically raping your own prepubsecent daughter", but knowing you nonces you'd probably get off to the thought.

[Anonymous No.3553226]

[Anonymous No.3553234]

>>3547822
>> serious discussion on shadman art
HAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.3553239]

/ic/
>criticizing someones art
>not being able to produce anything close to resembling a drawing
Good job.

[Anonymous No.3553261]

>>3553239
Are you implying that there's nobody in /ic/ that can outpace shadman in terms of ability? I sincerely hope that's not what you're implying.

[Anonymous No.3553709]

if shadman were here, what advice would you give it?
how would you get better at drawing porn?

[Anonymous No.3553712]

>>3553239
>ur not an expert so you can't say you don't like something
shine

[Anonymous No.3553736]

>>3547914
Nice bait

[Anonymous No.3553737]

>>3553239
Half the draw and alt threads are better than him

[Anonymous No.3554190]

>>3553226
>x likes y
>therefore everything that likes y is x

This logic isn't even valid. This isn't even a hard argument to make but you fucked it up.

[Anonymous No.3555773]

>>3547822

His art is cancer but don't listen to the crabs and basedboys, he is smart enough to make bank so anybody here shitting on him is just jealous.

drawing kids is wrong but not technically illegal (nor should it be) and he uses the taboos to his advantage.

Him being banned is to be expected but I don't think that it's very intelligent, doesn't really scilence him or stop him producing art. I would say so long as he follows site rules he should allowed to stay.

[Anonymous No.3556812]

>>3547822
He is shit, end of story

[Anonymous No.3556863]

> spend hours rotating boxes to horizon lines and vanishing points
> pour over anatomy text books and videos
> countless form studies
> life drawing classes
> lose out to some dude who just has fun drawing r34

[Anonymous No.3556873]

There's a difference between 'not normal' and drawing lewd loli pics.

Although I'll admit that I laughed hard at his Ivanka pics. They didn't look at all like her but was still a pretty good meme.

[Anonymous No.3556900]

at this point i just think its shadman making these threads himself, we went over this a hundred times and now its getting annoying and repetitive.
we can only harp on the same point over and over until we have said everything there is to say

[Anonymous No.3556936]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mru17S2sO20&t
I was unsure about shadman as an artist/person until I listened to this while I was painting one day. If you need background noise I recommend it

I really get the feeling that his mentality is to push social boundaries for nothing but the sole purpose of doing so. Since that was one of the very things that twisted and damaged his life to begin with. It's kinda fucked up that somebody's hobby dictates whether or not they are allowed to go to a school, instead of their knowledge or talent. I've always leaned more on the side of "art is art and deserves to be free from being controlled by outside sources" freedom to create means freedom to create anything and everything your mind can think of and anything you can put down on paper/canvas. I also genuinely believe that he would not be drawing what he does if there wasn't such a massive taboo about doing so

Also, let me say this. I don't like loli things. That's me personally, I think they're gross. I really do think its a grey area with what people like in 2d and 3d, though. Look at /d/ , The vast majority of them would be horrified if the thing they were sexually attracted to in 2d happened in real life. For that reason, I don't think all lolicon is paedophilic. Not all of it, at least.

I will say this to finish; I like him more as a comedian and online personality.He's not bad, and I don't think his art is as bad as everyone says it is, but I know its flawed. It's like the reverse of proko, shad drew from imagination and stylized characters so much the rest of his work is lacking outside of what he does. The reason he garners so much attention and is so popular has not really been about the quality of the art, but the personality of pushing boundaries and his sense of humor, and this is probably what bugs /ic/ the most out of everything.

just my 2 cents, Incase anyone was like me and thought he was just a lousy porn artist before learning a little more about him.

[Anonymous No.3556980]

>>3556936
I think he would have still done taboo drawings if the school didn't fuck him up but it would not have been so edgy. I personally think people on /ic/ hate Le shadman because they spend so much time being criticized and put down by others who are at the same skill lvl as them it leads to resentment when the guy who draws for fun gets money for drawing a picture of Hitler fucking wendy or nostalgia cartoons.he get's the dream life we always wanted and doesn't have to work ever since his fans pay him.

[Anonymous No.3557027]

>>3556980
maybe drawn taboo shit personally, but not become pseudo-famous for it and driven to do it every day It's been a while since I listened to that episode so I forget what class he was kicked out of, but I could only imagine he would have continued to do that. I know I drew some really strange, gross shit when I was going through my teen phase before I flunked out of uni and decided I wanted to pursue art with any seriousness. At least I flunked though- his chance was taken away from him. You can see why the man puts out so much work at such a constant quality, he's clearly driven

And I do think you have a point. In general, /ic/ seems to have an issue with anyone who gets to freely draw what they like without ramifications or being poverty-stricken a la X patreon artist getting shat on these days

[Anonymous No.3557078]

>>3557027
>/ic/ seems to have an issue with anyone who gets to freely draw what they like without ramifications or being poverty-stricken a la X patreon artist getting shat on these days

And that's why nobody here will ever make it while that guy who only ever did edgy porn shit, silly awesome series cartoon, voice acting funny voices,made music for free and other people (newground artist/creators) did make it. They put their artwork,music,voices and other skills out there and now work for gaming industry, T.V. or other media. If anybody really wanted to do something then they could have done it, but they chose not too because its much easier to blame someone else and grind more artwork that nobody will ever see because they don't share it then post something, gain a fanbase and use that as a bouncing point. Then again maybe its because the art they post is generic shit and their mad that he got more money for drawing raven for the 100 time then they got for drawing Picasso lvl art

[Anonymous No.3557091]

>>3547822
if you defend shadman you have the brain of a 16 year old period

[Anonymous No.3557122]

>>3557091
defend him against what?

[Anonymous No.3557139]

>>3557122
against nothing. >>3557091 is just mad shadman made it.

[Anonymous No.3558377]

>>3553226
even though i find this hilarious

>no true scottsman fallacy

[Anonymous No.3559028]

imagine judging and hating a person based on a fucking internet persona/art persona, jesus fucking christ

[Anonymous No.3559274]

Why do you people keep bringing up this irrelevant DA tier artist whos only appeal is drawing semi edgy chicken scratch for normies who have no idea how awful he really is, the hate circle jerk to this trashcan has already been done to death and theres literally nothing more to say about him

[Anonymous No.3559287]

>>3559028
It's not a persona though. They're evidence that he's a genuine paedophile, see. the Dafne Keen Discord screencaps and the fact that Shitman had Keens lawyers up his ass threatening to decimate him for drawing pornography of a rl little girl.

People need to stop trying to defend his poor behaviour as part of being an invented character when the reality is that he's a lanky, malnourished Pajeet living in Viking land who desperately wishes he were white and compensates for this by drawing himself as a white Neo-nazi Skeletor and maintaining a lust for fucking little European girls, which honestly isn't all surprising giving his sandnigger heritage.

[Anonymous No.3560253]

>>3553226
>if you draw a child, that's a child

[Anonymous No.3560302]

>>3553226
>

[Anonymous No.3560379]

>>3551379
I really dont like how this looks, hes better than me but I never wanna draw like that
>that gorillaz nose

[Anonymous No.3560434]

>>3560379
that nose is truly yikes. Tfw you barely draw anymore but you're probably better at it then shad when he drew this

[Anonymous No.3560490]

this shadman shit has been a daily thread for a month or two now, give it a rest. he is a average tier artist who likes drawing IRL children. we aren't doing anything productive so these threads might as well die.
this thread is literally only a cycle of
>its a drawing
>its child porn
>its a drawing
>it's child porn

[Anonymous No.3560609]

>>3559287
Have you listened to the SleepyCast episode he was featured in? The guy is completely sane and pretty buff.

[Anonymous No.3560753]

Well, if someone really wanted to nuke Shadman off the internet...

...send his 'art' to disney when he invariably does the disney princesses - if he charges for it; he'd be in a metric shit ton of trouble...or send his impossibles commission stuff to the right company...

[Anonymous No.3560764]

There's this phenomenon with shad and him missing off people on the autism spectrum. Makes you guys crawl out of the woodwork doesn't it?

I've literally never met anyone who hates shad, and happens to be mentally stable or not-autistic

Please show yourself if I'm wrong

[Anonymous No.3560766]

>>3560764
Should've said pissing off, not missing off. My bad

[Anonymous No.3560845]

>>3551380
>Ultimately capitalism will sort out those who make bad business practices.

Not really, in fact it's a golden age of unprofitable businesses gorging themselves on venture capital.

[Anonymous No.3562156]

>>3553226

I think it is a different situation. It is questionable porn but there are no real victims in cartoon child porn. There isn't anything real happening, just depictions.
Drawing porn with little kids, rule 34 or whatever, is harmless.

Unless you think those drawings encourage criminal behavior and can turn someone into a child molester. But then you have to also argue if enjoying violence in movies or games turns you into a homicidal person.

[Anonymous No.3562159]

>>3551379
pedos get the bullet
we're coming for you

[Anonymous No.3562573]

>>3562156
And when he's drawing child porn of actual children that exist, as he's done 3 times over now?

[Anonymous No.3562752]

>>3559274
because he basically made it you nut

[Anonymous No.3562759]

>>3560302
dont you feel embarassed posting this?
I wonder how the actual creator must feel, how can you live with yourself if you are this embarassing

[Anonymous No.3562787]

>>3559274
Because he's a god tier r34 artist.

[Anonymous No.3562873]

>>3562787
lmao no. InCase, Doxy, these guys are god-tier r34 artists. Shad is just a shitty, symbol-drawing, sandnigger nonce.

[Anonymous No.3564339]

>>3562752
Hes only made it because he got lucky and caught a niche of normie tier weirdos who think his nazi skeleton persona is the edgiest thing on the internet, hes garbage at art and discussing him adds nothing to this already shithole board. Move on fellas